Yup this is true. I'm not sure about the "favorites" though. Haha.
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Yup this is true. I'm not sure about the "favorites" though. Haha.
Laughing Banana
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Obama victory on the election clearly defined one thing: is that the power of "non-white" people in the US is gaining, and gaining, and gaining. Republicans, or any political party who stood their ground championing racist values as their core principle cannot and will not be able to survive in the future.
Hell, even some of the republicans themselves are already aware of this--in that they must adapt to a more liberal stance and can't afford to be always strictly conservative if the party is ever to gain power in the future.
Too bad for the haters of the "non-whites"... they are going to become inseparable, powerful factor of how the US is going to be, and none can change that. It's amazing how some people are still stuck in the NIGGERS ARE BAD opinion in spite of the real circumstances happening on their surroundings.
Hell, even some of the republicans themselves are already aware of this--in that they must adapt to a more liberal stance and can't afford to be always strictly conservative if the party is ever to gain power in the future.
Too bad for the haters of the "non-whites"... they are going to become inseparable, powerful factor of how the US is going to be, and none can change that. It's amazing how some people are still stuck in the NIGGERS ARE BAD opinion in spite of the real circumstances happening on their surroundings.
Clay Davis
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this is what I was wondering. such language would result in the person at least being questioned by police in the UK. I know there was a story about a woman being investigated by the secret service for her assassination talk, but it seems to be a lot more prevalent than I ever imagined it would be. it makes me wonder if are the authorities ignoring it or if they are quietly investigating.
you would think given the history in the US with assassinations of a sitting president and someone who was running for president as well as the shooting of Reagan that such comments would be taken very seriously and the full brunt of the law would come crashing down on those making those threats.
systemfehler
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Most of them seem to be stupid kids who probably follow the "family tradition" - hopefully a dying breed. The real danger comes from well educated sublime racists and not from the drunk right and unemployed follower.
Stan Collymore is a black ex-footballer turned TV presenter in the UK, he used to get a lot of racism on Twitter. He went through a spell of retweeting and favouriting every racist comment he received.
In the UK there is no right to free speech and using racist language is illegal, so all of these people were taken down to their local police stations and charged. One or two ended up in jail over it (presumably it wasn't a first offence). This isn't really the place for a debate over whether we should have a right to free speech or not, but I think it's interesting the stance our two countries have on this subject.
I very well might be wrong, but I think it has to do (at least to a degree) with a fear for being in any kind of conflict with other people.
Devolution
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I've had two black bfs now. This is gonna sound messed but the most pissy staring/comments have come from black women.
Haha, good point.
They seem to be hillbillies to me, pure arrogant rednecks that doesn't open their eyes...
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
I'm curios if that's just kids saying stupid things too...
You're.... You're a female?
I've always visualized you as a constipated looking ginger man (aka your avatar).
Devolution
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Devolution
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I get it a lot. I think it's the vulgarity and posting style.
ZombieSupaStar
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Racism is still alive and well, I don't think it will ever die. People with a bone to pick will choose anything "different" from themselves and blame it.
If anything maybe this will wisen up the younger generation and their complete lack of understanding about privacy and the internet. I cant wait over the next 30 years to see how many politicians/public figures/etc or some-such were stanky cam whores in their earlier days.
If anything maybe this will wisen up the younger generation and their complete lack of understanding about privacy and the internet. I cant wait over the next 30 years to see how many politicians/public figures/etc or some-such were stanky cam whores in their earlier days.
Devolution
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I'd prefer stanky cam whores as politicians if it means republicans getting the fuck out of women's vaginas.
ZombieSupaStar
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id vote for pattycake!
radioheadrule83
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I did think going in that I might feel some sympathy for some of the younger people whose idiocy is being put on show, but when I read how VILE some of it is -- fuck them. They deserve this.
Barbacoatl
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Who knows, they might run the gop someday! Or some church! Or make millions with their radio circus!
Because you're taking the good men of which there are apparently so few.
My aunt got annoyed at me when the first girl I started sorta dating was white.
This stuff just blows my mind. I mean, I don't give a flying fuck if someone is racist or not. Wanna hate an entire race or ethnic group? Be my guest. But why in the fuck would you post some of that shit on the internet with your name and some personal info. attached to it. Even if I was filled to the brim with racist hate, I would never be stupid enough to post that vile shit with my name associated with it.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Wanting to hang a black man is without a doubt racist in my book
...uhh...
But yes, it is amazing how people will post it online for basically anyone to see.
one cant expect much intelligent behavior from racists though
Hi, I'm brown and I think this is bullshit. Sorry, but saying you're black and that you think it's best to ignore it doesn't make your response correct.
Yes, racists should absolutely be called out and vilified at every opportunity.
kurtrussell
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I find it odd that the morally-superior non racists seem to spend a lot of their time searching for disgustingly racist terms on twitter.
From personal experience, the last thing I think of searching for in twitter is n----r, c--n and associates. What exactly is there to gain by searching for these terms, posting them and giving them many times more than their otherwise limited exposure?
Or is it not politically correct for me to point out the irony of the witchhunters having racist words, the likes of some I didn't even know where used in day-to-day conversation, in their vocabulary and having the actual thought process that leads to them searching for them at every opportunity?
From personal experience, the last thing I think of searching for in twitter is n----r, c--n and associates. What exactly is there to gain by searching for these terms, posting them and giving them many times more than their otherwise limited exposure?
Or is it not politically correct for me to point out the irony of the witchhunters having racist words, the likes of some I didn't even know where used in day-to-day conversation, in their vocabulary and having the actual thought process that leads to them searching for them at every opportunity?
Pathetic troll attempt is pathetic.
kurtrussell
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It was nowhere near a troll. I made a valid point that just doesn't happen to correlate with your closeted view of the world.
No one is searching for them at "every opportunity", they searched for them in a very specific instance: in and around the election and, in this case, the aftermath of the election.
And I personally didn't have to look very hard to find racist posts by people on my social media. Perhaps you found it odd that "morally-superior non racists" spent so much of their time looking for these things because, in a lot of ways, no searching had to be done. At the very least, 1000s of people expressed racist/hateful sentiments on social networks and, being social networks, it's ludicrously easy to come into contact with them.
So, no it's not "every opportunity". There is no group of "morally superior" people sitting around searching for racist terms, the fact that you might not know these terms and their everyday usage says more about your possible race and social status than it does about the terms themselves and, no, it's not that it's that your statement is not politically correct-it's that it's silly because no irony exists.
Also, your closeted view of the world seems to be one in which you seem to sidestep the issue of whether it's OK for people to be saying hateful things publicly (hint: it's not) and instead go full force on blaming people who expose racists. Way to go.
What exactly was your valid point? People should be free to make racist comments publicly but, man, it really sucks that people are pointing out that they're racist? If so, that's a shitty point.
you probably do not think racism is a problem
they do, and because they view racism as a problem they have decided to fight it in this way
you do not fight crimes by ignoring the criminals
Black people stop showing us that people are being racist to you. It's racist.
kurtrussell
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When I head that Obama got in, the first thing I thought was "oh hey, the liberal guy won." and not "I wonder how many people are being racist against the president". In fact, the only people who did think racist thoughts were a pathetic, ignorant and seemingly under-educated minority on various social networks. And now some holier-than-thou crusaders have broadcasted their opinions on a larger platform and given them greater exposure and reach. Good job, guys!
From my viewpoint, in this unique circumstance, both sides are wrong. However, free speech is a right and a side-effect of free speech is that not all of us are going to like everything said by someone exercising that right all of the time. Exposing someone's details on line is, however, illegal. Kind of hypocritical to be repulsed by racism and not be repulsed by the shennanigans of the anti-racists.
It's not illegal if they publicly shared it. I have no idea where you got this from. If they posted it in a public forum, it's fair game.
And, just so we're clear, are you saying that being racist publicly is only just as bad as pointing out that people are racist?
kurtrussell
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I could be wrong there then - I am not au fait with the intricacies of the US personal Data laws. But certainly from the perspective of the country I'm in, and with an excruciatingly dull two day Data Protection Act conference still seared into my brain, I know that shit would not fly over here.
No I'm saying the following:
1) I do not understand why anyone would be prompted to type "Obama C--n" into Twitter after a presidential election win, even if it's just to see what racists are writing. Genuinely do not understand that thought process - that thought literally would not cross my mind.
2) I think that giving the morons a larger audience is a massive FAIL
3) I am saying that I am of the opinion that invading's someone privacy is a disproportionate response to someone exercising their right to free speech, no matter how disgusting I find their choice of free speech.
perineumlick
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Ah, the old "Let's gloss over the racist swill that the jerkoffs spew and instead persecute those who expose that behavior" argument. Way to go buddy!
How are you invading someone's privacy by merely reporting something that they shared on the Internet publicly? They had the balls to say it in the first place; let them have the balls to deal with the consequences.
How are you invading someone's privacy by merely reporting something that they shared on the Internet publicly? They had the balls to say it in the first place; let them have the balls to deal with the consequences.
kurtrussell
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Demonstrate exactly how I "glossed over" it?
I believe in the UK, it would be. We don't really have official free speech laws, and the UK has specific provisions over hate speech and inciting racial hatred. Also, anything that could be considered "malicious telecommunications" could also be considered illegal. Specifically, the Malicious Communications Act 1988, section 1, "deals with the sending to another of any article which is indecent or grossly offensive, or which conveys a threat, or which is false, provided there is an intent to cause distress or anxiety to the recipient". There is actually a very recent case of an arrest under this section.
From my understanding, the constitutional right to free speech in the US means that what these guys are doing, despite being reprehensible, is not illegal. Another example of this is NAMBLA. They are allowed to exist because all they allegedly do is talk about loving young boys.
It is. Threatening to kill the president can land you in jail.
I'm going to ignore the false equivalencies you're drawing, I'm sure someone else will call you out for that.
Nobody's goal after Obama won was to go out racist hunting. It just so happens that there was a large percentage of people who had a racist or two in their social networks. This led to people posting their racist friends on here and other sites. Once all these assholes were gathered in one place, some people realized that this is far more prevalent then we should be okay with. So now some people are looking for racists, you've mischaracterized the process that has led us to this point, but somehow I feel like your intention was to mischaracterize.
Secondly, there is a very real phenomena where the more anonymous a person is, the more they feel like they can say and do horrible things. This extends into networks like Facebook or Twitter, where someone may not be anonymous, but they are certainly not known and what they usually say just gets swept under the rug or ignored. By taking these people and shining a spot light on them, you are not giving their viewpoints broader exposure but instead exposing their idiocy for the world to see.
Barbacoatl
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Also, kurt, you don't live in the U.S., but there are people in important political positions claiming that racism is dead, etc. You simply don't understand the motives of some Americans to combat racism.
Whether effectively or not, that's another question, but a passive position would do a disservice to the civil rights fighters and the dead people (I know, crazy, but people were killed for the color of their skin).
Whether effectively or not, that's another question, but a passive position would do a disservice to the civil rights fighters and the dead people (I know, crazy, but people were killed for the color of their skin).
kurtrussell
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That's vastly incorrect and actually libelous. I would appreciate a retraction to this statement.
And this is free speech. I'm sure that MANY MANY muslims were equally offended by the guys who trolled them by drawing cartoons of Mohamed. So is it then okay to publish the personal details of those guys? Yanno, because they did something really bad and offensive so we should be allowed to de-anonymise them and expose their personal lives to the world.
And thank you for the first sensible, considered and non-kneejerk reaction to my arguments here. Especially, thank you for not stealth-accusing me of being a racism sympathiser. You make a valid point and as I attempted to demonstrate above I literally do not understand the witchhunt thought process. A large part of this, I'd imagine, is due to my limited exposure to the USA.
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