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[mavs]

I am going to keep this short because I'm on my phone, but the post above yours is a good one. On top of that, posting publicly released statements- presumably real- is substantially different from then going and attaching personal info to it specifically. The availability of the info is not te issue. The combination- and the obvious intent and possibilities for ill use- are. (I'm sure posing name and address is ripe for positive use, yea?)

The verification of the info? Who knows. Thousands of viewers aren't going to go vet the info. The only thing they will likely do with it- even if not often- is misuse it. The "public shaming" aspect of it is overblown and ripe for getting nasty. The whole thing is simply the wrong direction to take- and it's not jus this particular incident either, yea? This sort of campaign has been growing in popularity, such as the recent spare of this in he UK that was posted just a few days ago, which ended up having official consequences as well - something at leat absent in the American case.

So the argument is that this is a bad thing because these people did not in fact make the controversial statements, and the tumblr was perpetuating a hoax? That is disturbing, I agree. But you haven't put forth much of an argument if they weren't falsely identified.

So we know the identity and locale of these people - and? There's no addresses. So what happens to them? This is what I want to know, are these people likely to be targeted by violent individuals? Is there precedent for that?

I also want to highlight that the identifying information was made public by the people making the statements, not the person who created the tumblr. That would be the key difference between say, a hacker going in and searching private information and what actually happened.

 

[NoirVisage]

It's back up.

The internet is mighty beautiful sometimes

 

[Necromanti]

The Tumblr isn't even commenting on what people are saying; it's just aggregating their tweets with information that they have chosen to display publicly. Their posts (and their content) speak for themselves.

Why should incitement of hatred and violence--and even death threats--be okay, whereas calling people out on it should be suppressed? This isn't even about freedom of speech, or stifling uncontroversial opinions. You're allowed to say "fuck" so-and-so and say you don't like this and that. Saying "kill the nigger" is kind of beyond having an opinion.

 

[NoirVisage]

Has anyone (in this thread) said that what these idiots posted/said is okay ?

its one or the other mang, now you're just being coy.
if you do nothing, you're saying its okay.

 

[Necromanti]

Has anyone (in this thread) said that what these idiots posted/said is okay ?

It's implied.

 

[Blasty]

Has anyone (in this thread) said that what these idiots posted/said is okay ?

-They're just kids. People don't agree, but they should be allowed to post their bigotry.

-On the other hand, what this Tumblr is doing is wrong and it should be taken down for posting "private" information.

What does that imply?

 

[Eidan]

The Tumblr isn't even commenting on what people are saying; it's just aggregating their tweets with information that they have chosen to display publicly. Their posts (and their content) speak for themselves.

Why should incitement of hatred and violence--and even death threats--be okay, whereas calling people out on it should be suppressed? This isn't even about freedom of speech, or stifling uncontroversial opinions. You're allowed to say "fuck" so-and-so and say you don't like this and that. Saying "kill the nigger" is kind of beyond having an opinion.

From what I can tell from our resident free speech advocates, the difference is that the majority think their speech is bad. So because they are in the minority in this respect, their speech should be "protected". Protected meaning ignored and allowed to continue with nary a rebuttal.

 

[i-Lo]

its one or the other mang, now you're just being coy.
if you do nothing, you're saying its okay.

True. Consent through silence. Consent through apathy.

 

[zaxon]

Sad reality about speech you don't like: you will never get rid of it by trying to squelch it. Didn't work with Socrates, didn't work with the Christians in Rome, didn't work with Galileo, didn't work in the Soviet Union, and it sure hasn't worked in the US over the past 50 years, as these bigots clearly show. When you tell someone they can't say what they believe, guess what happens? Their conviction in that belief gets stronger and they only want to shout it out louder. We're pretty stubborn like that as a species.

The only way to fight bad ideas and bad speech is to delegitimize them with better ideas and better speech. Try all you want to "punish" and "shame" these people, but chances are you're only making them worse.

 

[Blasty]

Bullshit. I don't think racism is okay, but I still find this website disgusting.



By whom ? Haven't seen any post where someone implied it's okay.



It implies that kids are kids and that these people might have a proper understanding of the situation and its consequences. I posted a video earlier of a German class visiting Auschwitz, where a kid says really, really stupid things, but I wouldn't imply that this necessarily means that the kid is racist. It's just a fucking stupid kid, bullying it won't help, but teaching him/persuading him. No reason to ruin his life/scar him for life.

I've heard some really smart and fantastic people say stupid things, or at least stupid when taken out of context. People that would easily be considered geniuses (e.g. professors and really smart people with PhDs in mathematics).

It implies that because these are teenagers, one is more wrong than the other. As a teenager myself, I laugh at this.

 

[DarkFlow]

Social media, and GAF as well, is beginning to disgust me.

Yes, this is a great idea, because we all know that mobs of people are great at telling the difference between "this is a disgusting opinion" and "this is an unpopular opinion". Or "this is a provocative opinion". Not to mention, "this is a disgusting opinion" changes pretty rapidly in our society. This isn't a matter of what is legal. It's a matter of what is ethical. Being unethical in reponse to something you find offensive doesn't magically become ethical. "People are responsible for what they say" - and yet, people are also responsible for acting like an unpleasant mob. One doesn't free you from the other.

Welcome to the hysteria of "social media".

I'm non-white and I say provocative things about white people every now and then. It's a good thing I'm currently on the right side of the social police for now, eh?



Yeah, it actually kinda does.

What the hell are you going to say about white people that would hurt there feelings? Call them a cracker or a honky, oh boy your really cutting deep there...

 

[shadowsdarknes]

Sad reality about speech you don't like: you will never get rid of it by trying to squelch it. Didn't work with Socrates, didn't work with the Christians in Rome, didn't work with Galileo, didn't work in the Soviet Union, and it sure hasn't worked in the US over the past 50 years, as these bigots clearly show. When you tell someone they can't say what they believe, guess what happens? Their conviction in that belief gets stronger and they only want to shout it out louder. We're pretty stubborn like that as a species.

The only way to fight bad ideas and bad speech is to delegitimize them with better ideas and better speech. Try all you want to "punish" and "shame" these people, but chances are you're only making them worse.

Meh. I'd rather see these people get suspended from school, shamed by their families and friends, and denied jobs from future employers. It's too great.

 

[Necromanti]

By whom ? Haven't seen any post where someone implied it's okay.

By people who take more offense with the website than the hateful racism and death threats. I don't agree with people harassing them or ruining their lives for what they posted. But I'm even less okay with the content of their posts. If I'm going to defend freedom of expression completely, why not defend it both ways?

 

[KtSlime]

Has anyone (in this thread) said that what these idiots posted/said is okay ?

We all learn at a very young age that silence is permission. Why are you pretending otherwise?

FieryBalrog: if society decides to change racism to an acceptable opinion you might as well kill me now, because I will fight it to the very end.

 

[Major_Lazer]

Sorry, I don't trust a large mob of mostly white, Eurocentric internet users to determine what is "racist" and what isn't.

... I hope that wasn't on "the List".

Man that post was just...
You know what, I'm not white or Eurocentric and i can categorically state that all of those posts on that site were racist and offensive.
Wtf is your point

 

[NoirVisage]

Bullshit. I don't think racism is okay, but I still find this website disgusting.



By whom ? Haven't seen any post where someone implied it's okay.



It implies that kids are kids and that these people might have a proper understanding of the situation and its consequences. I posted a video earlier of a German class visiting Auschwitz, where a kid says really, really stupid things, but I wouldn't imply that this necessarily means that the kid is racist. It's just a fucking stupid kid, bullying it won't help, but teaching him/persuading him. No reason to ruin his life/scar him for life.

I've heard some really smart and fantastic people say stupid things, or at least stupid when taken out of context. People that would easily be considered geniuses (e.g. professors and really smart people with a PhD in mathematics/physics/computer science). I doubt no one around here has ever said anything that - e.g. when taken out of context - could have had negative consequences.

you live in a mysterious reality..a running theme i'm seeing among these "kids" is that their parents are possibly the ones that taught them this mentality. nobody is going to teach them anything, not better than a good 'ole shaming, which will at least bring to their attention that their words have consequences.

 

[Deified Data]

I believe I've arrived at a solution we could all agree on, somewhat:

They should be culled.

They're detrimental to a just and tolerant society, and even if we attempt to humiliate them into thinking properly they're just going to go back home to their parents and suffer further indoctrination. If it would be wrong to ignore racism in the context of openly displaying it online, would it not be equally immoral to let the racists go on living in their current state?

Obviously killing someone who doesn't agree with you is a crime, but hypothetically, if it weren't, would the proponents of this blog be morally obligated to kill these people before they spread their sickness? I think you're being somewhat disingenuous if you agree with addressing this issue through public shame but not with the aforementioned solution.

Just food for thought.

 

[Devolution]

I believe I've arrived at a solution we could all agree on, somewhat:

They should be culled.

They're detrimental to a just and tolerant society, and even if we attempt to humiliate them into thinking properly they're just going to go back home to their parents and suffer further indoctrination. If it would be wrong to ignore racism in the context of openly displaying it online, would it not be equally immoral to let the racists go on living in their current state?

Obviously killing someone who doesn't agree with you is a crime, but hypothetically, if it weren't, would the proponents of this blog be morally obligated to kill these people before they spread their sickness? I think you're being somewhat disingenuous if you agree with addressing this issue through public shame but not with the aforementioned solution.

Just food for thought.

Um, no.

 

[NoirVisage]

I believe I've arrived at a solution we could all agree on, somewhat:

They should be culled.

They're detrimental to a just and tolerant society, and even if we attempt to humiliate them into thinking properly they're just going to go back home to their parents and suffer further indoctrination. If it would be wrong to ignore racism in the context of openly displaying it online, would it not be equally immoral to let the racists go on living in their current state?

Obviously killing someone who doesn't agree with you is a crime, but hypothetically, if it weren't, would the proponents of this blog be morally obligated to kill these people before they spread their sickness? I think you're being somewhat disingenuous if you agree with addressing this issue through public shame but not with the aforementioned solution.

Just food for thought.

you are the Dominque Dawes..OF THE MIND!

 

[thetrin]

I believe I've arrived at a solution we could all agree on, somewhat:

They should be culled.

They're detrimental to a just and tolerant society, and even if we attempt to humiliate them into thinking properly they're just going to go back home to their parents and suffer further indoctrination. If it would be wrong to ignore racism in the context of openly displaying it online, would it not be equally immoral to let the racists go on living in their current state?

Obviously killing someone who doesn't agree with you is a crime, but hypothetically, if it weren't, would the proponents of this blog be morally obligated to kill these people before they spread their sickness? I think you're being somewhat disingenuous if you agree with addressing this issue through public shame but not with the aforementioned solution.

Just food for thought.

Racism is born from ignorance, more than anything else. They should be educated. More parts of the US should be heterogenous. Homogeny breeds tribalism. I'm a bleeding heart liberal, though. We should all just love each other, yo.

 

[Stumpokapow]

I believe I've arrived at a solution we could all agree on, somewhat:

They should be culled.

They're detrimental to a just and tolerant society, and even if we attempt to humiliate them into thinking properly they're just going to go back home to their parents and suffer further indoctrination. If it would be wrong to ignore racism in the context of openly displaying it online, would it not be equally immoral to let the racists go on living in their current state?

Obviously killing someone who doesn't agree with you is a crime, but hypothetically, if it weren't, would the proponents of this blog be morally obligated to kill these people before they spread their sickness? I think you're being somewhat disingenuous if you agree with addressing this issue through public shame but not with the aforementioned solution.

Just food for thought.

This is not OK.

 

[Satch]

I believe I've arrived at a solution we could all agree on, somewhat:

They should be culled.

They're detrimental to a just and tolerant society, and even if we attempt to humiliate them into thinking properly they're just going to go back home to their parents and suffer further indoctrination. If it would be wrong to ignore racism in the context of openly displaying it online, would it not be equally immoral to let the racists go on living in their current state?

Obviously killing someone who doesn't agree with you is a crime, but hypothetically, if it weren't, would the proponents of this blog be morally obligated to kill these people before they spread their sickness? I think you're being somewhat disingenuous if you agree with addressing this issue through public shame but not with the aforementioned solution.

Just food for thought.

dude... no? no, they're not morally obligated to kill those people.

 

[Devolution]

Shame doesn't just make people feel bad, it's push back. When you're scolded as a child, because that's what racists have, the mentality of children, you realize you've done wrong. Now because some racists are so far up their own ass in denial they won't ever admit to being wrong, and they will double down. But not all of them do. And not everyone who makes vile statements will keep on owning them once enough people tell them they're fucking wrong.

 

[Barbacoatl]

I just don't understand the "ruining lives" complaint. It's just hyperbole. Public tweets, with names and pictures attached to them, what exactly did they expect? There was earlier a blonde girl who called for the prez' assassination. The local channel runs a story on her and her facebook postings. She seems cynical enough to not regret anything. Then, days later, she's interviewed again and lo and behold, she takes it back! Why do you take back your words, your freedom of speech, if it's so perfectly fine? She lost her job. Because of some mob? Nope, because the employer didn't want to be associated with condemnable, antisocial behavior.

As far as I'm concerned she got in the mess because of her big mouth, not because of internet justice.

 

[Xisiqomelir]

Nah, fuck that. It's way past time to live and let live with these fucks. The more reasonable people drag them into the light and shame the shit out of them, the better off we'll all be. Hell, maybe one or two of them will realize they're wrong if enough people embarrass the hell out of them when the pop off with some super racist nonsense.

I endorse this stance. It's not socially acceptable to be raving nonsense. We shun hobos who do it, I have no problem shunning internet idiots too.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

I believe I've arrived at a solution we could all agree on, somewhat:

They should be culled.

They're detrimental to a just and tolerant society, and even if we attempt to humiliate them into thinking properly they're just going to go back home to their parents and suffer further indoctrination. If it would be wrong to ignore racism in the context of openly displaying it online, would it not be equally immoral to let the racists go on living in their current state?

Obviously killing someone who doesn't agree with you is a crime, but hypothetically, if it weren't, would the proponents of this blog be morally obligated to kill these people before they spread their sickness? I think you're being somewhat disingenuous if you agree with addressing this issue through public shame but not with the aforementioned solution.

Just food for thought.

no

 

[Devolution]

I just don't understand the "ruining lives" complaint. It's just hyperbole. Public tweets, with names and pictures attached to them, what exactly did they expect? There was earlier a blonde girl who called for the presz' assassination. The local channel runs a story on her and her facebook postings. She seems cynical enough to not regret anything. Then, days later, she's interviewed again and lo and behold, she takes it back! Why do you take back your words, your freedom of speech, if it's so perfectly fine? She lost her job. Because of some mob? Nope, because the employer didn't want to be associated with condemnable, antisocial behavior.

She lost her own job because it was her own comments brought to light that ended her occupation. The first thing a bunch of teachers and instructors have made clear to those who listen in class is don't put anything up on FB or twitter you will regret or will fuck with your job/career and future jobs.

 

[Deified Data]

Racism is born from ignorance, more than anything else. They should be educated. More parts of the US should be heterogenous. Homogeny breeds tribalism. I'm a bleeding heart liberal, though. We should all just love each other, yo.

I agree, actually. I attempted to approach the subject from this angle but was immediately shot down by people more concerned with vengeance than being constructive. So I found another angle.

 

[CyclopsRock]

Is Snoop Dog on the tumblr?

 

[Barbacoatl]

I'm honestly simply shocked that so many people that I would've considered rather educated, smart and responsible cheer this. I'm not surprised there's fucking racism, but I'm surprised so many people around here don't see any problem with the website. It may sound stupid, but I honestly would've expected more/better from people around here.

Don't worry, we feel the same about you.

 

[Devolution]

I agree, actually. I attempted to approach the subject from this angle but was immediately shot down by people more concerned with vengeance than being constructive. So I found another angle.

Unless you're involved in these kids lives you're past the point of being able to do much other than shame them for their display of racism but someone's got to do it if their parents and teachers don't get across the message.

 

[mavs]

I believe I've arrived at a solution we could all agree on, somewhat:

They should be culled.

They're detrimental to a just and tolerant society, and even if we attempt to humiliate them into thinking properly they're just going to go back home to their parents and suffer further indoctrination. If it would be wrong to ignore racism in the context of openly displaying it online, would it not be equally immoral to let the racists go on living in their current state?

Obviously killing someone who doesn't agree with you is a crime, but hypothetically, if it weren't, would the proponents of this blog be morally obligated to kill these people before they spread their sickness? I think you're being somewhat disingenuous if you agree with addressing this issue through public shame but not with the aforementioned solution.

Just food for thought.

Right here: more evidence that objections to publicizing these people is driven by an overreaction to what that publicity actually means. It's not going to ruin their lives. If the issue ever comes up all they need to do to patch it up is apologize. And if they never feel the need and if (this is a big if) the publicity has a lasting negative impact on their social functioning what is wrong about that?

 

[commedieu]

ITT; People want to suspend the right to post public information, that was posted publicly.

 

[Lamel]

Racism isn't a fucking stage you grow out of, or just go through, the hell is up with this mentality? We are in the age of the internet. The head of the CIA is busted over internet shit. Come on now.

It will happen when you stay stupid shit, and it should. THey aren't saying innocent things like "FUCK THE LINE!" Its specifically racist.

You don't think people change over time? Especially kids?

I agree that these people are assholes. But how can some of you think that racism is an unchangeable belief?

 

[Deified Data]

Unless you're involved in these kids lives you're past the point of being able to do much other than shame them for their display of racism but someone's got to do it if their parents and teachers don't get across the message.

They'll return to environments where their racism will be further encouraged, however.

Forced government intervention in these scenarios would be ideal, if your aim was to remove children from negative situations.

Honestly, I'm throwing out every solution I can think of besides "live and let live", which is a thoroughly unpopular stance in this thread. I'm skeptical if there is a constructive way that the internet can effect these kids' lives.

ITT; People want to suspend the right to post public information, that was posted publicly.

I don't propose limiting access to publicly posted information. I'm not even saying it's wrong. I'm just saying it's detrimental to the situation and should be recognized as such.

 

[commedieu]

You don't think people change over time? Especially kids?

I agree that these people are assholes. But how can some of you think that racism is an unchangeable belief?

People change, of course.

After they are shamed.

I was just making sure that we are all talking about the same thing, racist comments, not just kids saying silly things... people want to just put the racist comments into the "kids just being kids.." bin. Its not, its racism.


Its not acceptable to be racist in public. What happens to you when you are, is what happens. Just like that little girl with the Heart attack "BACKTRACE." Dad. She trolled, people found out, she will always remember that as something she can't do. People are going to troll you online if you do stupid things in public. Happens all the time on Neogaf.

People are in such a rush in this country to not call out racism and punish it when it happens, its pathetic.

I don't propose limiting access to publicly posted information. I'm not even saying it's wrong. I'm just saying it's detrimental to the situation and should be recognized as such.

Detrimental or not, its the natural reaction to calling people niggers in public. Why does it matter if its detrimental or not? You can go around people, with your personal data on the front of your shirt, and call them Niggers if you'd like. But when people shame you for saying racist comments, you have absolutely nothing to complain about. Everything that happened was due to your racism. Not an innocent misspoken tweet, but claiming you're going to kill a nigger.

This should haunt everyone that participated for the rest of their lives, they will have to clean up their act, and move forward. That is the way that life works, and it doesn't matter if hate comes out of the mouths of babes. These kids are all old enough to know better.

Fuck racists.

 

[Devolution]

Because only uneducated, dumb and irresponsible people have a problem with mobs, bullying and putting people on a pillory. Obviously.

Can I ask you and others posting with the same logic an honest question: other than public shaming how will these kids learn and not grow into adults that espouse the same ideas? By now it's obvious teachers and parents have failed.

They'll return to environments where their racism will be further encouraged, however.

Forced government intervention in these scenarios would be ideal, if your aim was to remove children from negative situations.

Honestly, I'm throwing out every solution I can think of besides "live and let live", which is a thoroughly unpopular stance in this thread. I'm skeptical if there is a constructive way that the internet can effect these kids' lives.

There are a host of things we can do as a society before we go the route of letting the gov kidnap kids.

 

[railGUN]

ITT; People want to suspend the right to post public information, that was posted publicly.

All I want is for this to be done in a responsible manner, with some consideration applied to the trawl. This tumblr approach by anonymous people is irresponsible at the least, and dangerous at the most.

 

[Barbacoatl]

Because only uneducated, dumb and irresponsible people have a problem with mobs, bullying and putting people on a pillory. Obviously.

I'm sure you're educated and highly intelligent. It's just that like you said referring to us, I expected better. Welp, whatta you gonna do.

 

[Lamel]

People change, of course.

After they are shamed.

I was just making sure that we are all talking about the same thing, racist comments, not just kids saying silly things...

I held racist beliefs when I was around 10-12, but I matured out of that on my own. Shame isn't necessary, education is.

 

[Half and half]

There is too much worrying in this thread. The kids will be fine. They have bright futures writing newsletters for Ron Paul.

 

[Barbacoatl]

I held racist beliefs when I was around 10-12, but I matured out of that on my own. Shame isn't necessary, education is.

You are not the rule, you can't expect everyone to go through your same path of self-enlightenment.

And shame sometimes can be part of an education. I mean, time out for little kids? Lol, that shit is humiliating. Now ask some parents who practice it if they don't consider it part of the education.

Also, they're not 10. Many ot them are 20+, like the upstanding guy who crashed high school parties and provided alcohol to minors. What a legend, worthy of nurturing and protecting.

 

[railGUN]

Can I ask you and others posting with the same logic an honest question: other than public shaming how will these kids learn and not grow into adults that espouse the same ideas? By now it's obvious teachers and parents have failed.

In Canada, we made hate speech against the law. Is there still racism in Canada? Absolutely, but at least we're taught that it's illegal.

I've yet to see any of these racist kids have an epiphany because of this. They either delete their tweets, or own them proudly - not once have I seen any of them change their stance in any way. If you have proof contradictory to this, by all means, post it.

 

[TheOMan]

All I want is for this to be done in a responsible manner, with some consideration applied to the trawl. This tumblr approach by anonymous people is irresponsible at the least, and dangerous at the most.

Because of the information these people made public? Is the tumblr itself not protected under free speech?

 

[Lamel]

You are not the rule, you can't expect everyone to go through your same path of self-enlightenment.

And shame sometimes can be part of an education. I mean, time out for little kids? Lol, that shit is humiliating. Now ask some parents who practice it if they don't consider it part of the education.

You have a point. But I think the best solution to racism is to genuinely experience various people of various races. That type of experience is the best. Obviously people are still batshit insane and continue to be racist.

 

[railGUN]

Because of the information these people made public? Is the tumblr itself not protected under free speech?

The tumble was deleted because (I'm assuming) it violated their TOS. It has been remade by someone else.

I've stated multiple times why I disagree with this approach - these reasons include a lack of transparency, proper verification of identities, and the anonymous curator of the information and lack of appeal process.

 

[Deified Data]

Can I ask you and others posting with the same logic an honest question: other than public shaming how will these kids learn and not grow into adults that espouse the same ideas? By now it's obvious teachers and parents have failed.




There are a host of things we can do as a society before we go the route of letting the gov kidnap kids.

Hrmm. Such as shaming them online. My problem with this isn't the act, so much as the stated motivation of its proponents. Do they deserve to be shamed and humiliated at so young an age? That's between you and whatever morality you ascribe to. I just don't think it's "helping" anyone. I think the number of kids who will come away from this with a different stance on race, based solely on responses to their heinous comments, is fairly close to 0%.

I agree with you that there are a number of different ways a community can deal with the problem of racism among youth. I personally don't believe humiliating them online is one of those things. When I was young and stupid, I changed my beliefs when caring, patient individuals gave me the tools to escape that ignorance. If someone attacked my worldview aggressively I'd dismiss them as the bullies they are, whatever motivations they might claim to have.

 

[zaxon]

Meh. I'd rather see these people get suspended from school, shamed by their families and friends, and denied jobs from future employers. It's too great.

Yeah, it's empowering seeing these people suffer, isnt it. Makes us all feel pretty good, yeah? Having a group of people who are beneath us, whose mere existence proves that we are better than somebody.

People change, of course.

After they are shamed.

And thank god for that, I'm not sure I could live in a world where profligate women went around having premarital sex in their vaginas.

 

[Devolution]

Hrmm. Such as shaming them online. My problem with this isn't the act, so much as the stated motivation of its proponents. Do they deserve to be shamed and humiliated at so young an age? That's between you and whatever morality you ascribe to. I just don't think it's "helping" anyone. I think the number of kids who will come away from this with a different stance on race, based solely on responses to their heinous comments, is fairly close to 0%.

I agree with you that there are a number of different ways a community can deal with the problem of racism among youth. I personally don't believe humiliating them online is one of those things. When I was young and stupid, I changed my beliefs when caring, patient individuals gave me the tools to escape that ignorance. If someone attacked my worldview aggressively I'd dismiss them as the bullies they are, whatever motivations they might claim to have.

If enough people drown them out and they take back what they said, which more than a few have done, I consider that a pretty solid victory. Some of the kids are already trying to distance themselves from what they posted.

Yeah, it's empowering seeing these people suffer, isnt it. Makes us all feel pretty good, yeah? Having a group of people who are beneath us, whose mere existence proves that we are better than somebody.



And thank god for that, I'm not sure I could live in a world where profligate women went around having premarital sex in their vaginas.

Who is suffering? Where? These kids/people made disgusting racist threats.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

This could all have been avoided if they didn't call the president racial slurs and for him to be killed.