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[Hyet]

So, I've had this PC since early 2020 and I've been happy with it, but games like Alan Wake 2 and MHWilds are making me think it may need some improvements. I don't play too many recent games but I went through Space Marine 2 this last holyday and it didn't perform as well as I expected/ wanted it to.

Specs:

• GPU: ASUS GeForce RTX 3080 TUF GAMING 10GB GDDR6X
• CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 4.6Ghz 12-Core
• RAM: 32Gb (4x8Gb) Corsair Vengeance LPX 3600Mhz CL18
• Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING

I play on a 1440p 244Hz monitor. Power supply is 750W.
I was thinking other alternatives like scaling down my monitor to 1080p or overclocking since I keep everything at stock.

Any thoughts?

 

[RoboFu]

No , I wouldn't . That's more than enough to max out most games. Some games are just badly optimized and wont perform well no matter what you have.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Depends how much you want to spend as the system is pretty decent and sure wouldn't downgrade your monitor

Personally would look at upgrading the 3900X to maybe a 5800X3D as I THINK that is the same socket and would likely be a plug and play upgrade, other smarter people here can confirm or correct my mistake

 

[TintoConCasera]

but games like Alan Wake 2 and MHWilds

Those games are very unoptimized. I'd wait until you start having trouble with most games.

 

[Rossco EZ]

You could get a 5700x3D or 5800x3d if you can find one for the cpu, gpu wise I'd see how a cpu upgrade does for you first as 3080 should still be pretty good card really considering DLSS etc now days

 

[Hyet]

Those games are very unoptimized. I'd wait until you start having trouble with most games.

I kinda get that. But I was shocked to see SM II dip to the hight 30s here and there... I'm used to playing on 70+ fps on everything. Also, everything stuttering (even toaster games like OW have some small annoying jumps despite runnig at high rates and being maxed out on my part). I was starting to think something wasn't working or not keeping up.

upgrading the 3900X to maybe a 5800X3D

You could get a 5700x3D or 5800x3d

Would that really be significant? I wasn't expecting the CPU to be the weak link here! But aren't those less powerful than the Ryzen 9 3900X?

 

[Zathalus]

5700x3D can be had for around ~$270 and will offer a significant CPU upgrade. Make sure to update your motherboard bios ahead of time if needed.

GPU wise you are kinda fucked right now, a few months back you were able to pick up a 4070 Ti Super for a decent price, but with the stock situation at the moment you are not going to get a good deal.

So, upgrade your CPU if you want, but perhaps wait a few months for GPU stock and pricing to normalise.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

An RTX 4070 Super is around 15% faster than your GPU, meaning that a significant upgrade from your current setup will be expensive. I don't think you'd be satisfied with the price to performance/improvement ratio. I'm not sure how much a newer CPU could do for you.

 

[Senua]

Depends how much you want to spend as the system is pretty decent and sure wouldn't downgrade your monitor

Personally would look at upgrading the 3900X to maybe a 5800X3D as I THINK that is the same socket and would likely be a plug and play upgrade, other smarter people here can confirm or correct my mistake

Yep that's what I did, 3800x to 5800X3D. Awesome upgrade for not much money, and sold my 3800x for like 80 quid.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I kinda get that. But I was shocked to see SM II dip to the hight 30s here and there... I'm used to playing on 70+ fps on everything. Also, everything stuttering (even toaster games like OW have some small annoying jumps despite runnig at high rates and being maxed out on my part). I was starting to think something wasn't working or not keeping up.


Would that really be significant? I wasn't expecting the CPU to be the weak link here!

A lot of games love that 3D cache but not all

A good little talk on it

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

5700x3D can be had for around ~$270 and will offer a significant CPU upgrade. Make sure to update your motherboard bios ahead of time if needed.

GPU wise you are kinda fucked right now, a few months back you were able to pick up a 4070 Ti Super for a decent price, but with the stock situation at the moment you are not going to get a good deal.

So, upgrade your CPU if you want, but perhaps wait a few months for GPU stock and pricing to normalise.

best advice here.

unless you want to go all in with a new system with AM5 cpu, DDR5 RAM, etc then this is the best value to get more out your system.

the 5800x3d holds up well against more recent AMD cpus. 32GB is plenty RAM so it would be a waste to have to upgrade to DDR5.

the GPU situation is fucked. i'd definitely try get a 4000 series GPU but prices are way up because of 5000 series. DLSS frame gen gets hate for "fake frames" but it really does make a difference. it'll help you hit 200+ fps on your monitor. I enable frame gen in any game that supports it as I have a 360Hz monitor.

if you're in no rush to upgrade then hold off. prices are already going down for 5000 cards as stock improves and more models release. i think around summer things should look better and you can grab a 4000 card.

i'd upgrade the CPU right now and do GPU later in the year

 

[Senua]

OP I'm still on a 3080 too and have found if you work around vram limitations, so being smart with settings to not overload your budget, you can still have a great experience. DLSS4 has extended the life of these older cards too. Now Transformer model DLSS performance will look arguably just as good as DLSS quality did on the old CNN model (in some ways better) and perform better

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

OP I'm still on a 3080 too and have found if you work around vram limitations, so being smart with settings to not overload your budget, you can still have a great experience. DLSS4 has extended the life of these older cards too. Now Transformer model DLSS performance will look arguably just as good as DLSS quality did on the old CNN model (in some ways better) and perform better

yup. i tried out Cyberpunk at Performance DLSS and it's so much better than the old model. Still a little blurry but what do you expect? but at least it looks a lot smoother... i mean before there were loads of artifacts but now it looks solid.

 

[Schmendrick]

for 1440p I´d not upgrade anything besides maybe the CPU, and I´d never downgrade the monitor, ever.
If you want to meaningfully upgrade your GPU and go for higher fps or higher res then you will have to go for a 4080 minimum.

In the end it completely depends on what your output target is. For 1440p/60 your system is good for 99% of all games bar exceptions like Pathtracing modes or technical catastrophies like MH:Wilds which doesn`t run smoothly on any system.

 

[owandeseis]

5700x3D can be had for around ~$270 and will offer a significant CPU upgrade. Make sure to update your motherboard bios ahead of time if needed.

GPU wise you are kinda fucked right now, a few months back you were able to pick up a 4070 Ti Super for a decent price, but with the stock situation at the moment you are not going to get a good deal.

So, upgrade your CPU if you want, but perhaps wait a few months for GPU stock and pricing to normalise.

I got the 5700x3d for 150€ few weeks ago on Aliexpress, not sure if they send to USA too, but it's not the first CPU i buy there and they've been very good and cheap.

As for the 3080, i got that card too and lately and with DLSS 4 i'm still more than fine, KCD 2 ran perfectly, we got a 15-20% free performance with the new tech.

I was planning to change late last year to the new series but yea, can't defent the new Nvidia 5000's, the leap is just too small, and so are the prices, AMD is looking better but i feel jumping from 3080 to 9070XT would be fine but not as big as i'd like, so it seems the best idea is to wait for some revisions late this year or next year, maybe a 9080 from AMD that's a bit more expensive or a 5080 super without ridiculous prices..

I'd wait, it's a terrible moment to upgrade GPU's, things will get a bit better in 3-5 months probably but for now.... nah

 

[lordrand11]

Yep that's what I did, 3800x to 5800X3D. Awesome upgrade for not much money, and sold my 3800x for like 80 quid.

I was going to say, a 5800X3D could be had for a reasonable price, if you have the extra funding to upgrade to a newer card I'd recommend going for a one of the 16 GB 40xx series just to have the VRAM future proof for several of the newer games (something I did recently but had to replace my entire PC).

 

[Hyet]

The most shocking thing I got out of this thread is that 5800X3D outperforms 3900X in gaming. I could have never thought.

 

[MiguelItUp]

Depends how much you want to spend as the system is pretty decent and sure wouldn't downgrade your monitor

Personally would look at upgrading the 3900X to maybe a 5800X3D as I THINK that is the same socket and would likely be a plug and play upgrade, other smarter people here can confirm or correct my mistake

I couldn't agree more with this.

How much you wanna spend is a huge part, especially right now. To me, we're in another weird "in-between" spot, where depending on some cases it may be better to wait, on others it may be good to bite. It just depends on a number of variables. But how much you're wanting to spend is pretty key.

 

[FoxMcChief]

You know the answer to this question is always YES.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

5700x3D can be had for around ~$270 and will offer a significant CPU upgrade. Make sure to update your motherboard bios ahead of time if needed.

GPU wise you are kinda fucked right now, a few months back you were able to pick up a 4070 Ti Super for a decent price, but with the stock situation at the moment you are not going to get a good deal.

So, upgrade your CPU if you want, but perhaps wait a few months for GPU stock and pricing to normalise.

I always forget about the 5700X3D as it would make a great choice as well, good call

 

[Lucifers Beard]

Maybe upgrade your CPU since the 3900X is going to likely be your bottleneck if you are not getting the performance you want. Space Marine 2 is quite CPU heavy so an upgrade in that area would be very noticeable.

The GPU market is fucked at the moment and the 3080 is more than good enough for 1440p 60+FPS in every game I've played. Sometimes I'll even reduce a few settings like shadows (usually to medium) or texture quality to high instead of ultra to get a good boost.

Personally, I'm waiting out for a GPU since the 5000 series is dog shit, unless you're happy spending £2000 on a 5090 (not that you'll ever find one).

32GB of RAM is fine too, no need to make changes there.

 

[AJUMP23]

I think you are good. GPUs are so expensive, and a 3080 is a good one.

 

[Antwix]

By the way OP, if you go ahead with a cpu upgrade to a 5000 amd cpu, be sure to update your motherboard BIOS before removing your 3900x.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

given todays market, id buy a lot of lube first

 

[SHA]

What's your budget? Also you sound like you don't want to get near the console space, I'm okay with my series x, I usually disable Vsync to push more fps, disable blur to make every frame count, all other stuff from here is your preference.

 

[analog_future]

No , I wouldn't . That's more than enough to max out most games. Some games are just badly optimized and wont perform well no matter what you have.

 

[Holammer]

Do it. I ordered a new prebuilt computer just recently with a 9000X3d and a 5080.
Lemme give you a FOMO angle. There's an ever looming threat of China invading Taiwan, if that happens chip production will be disrupted for years. You'll be struck with your current PC and smartphone for a long time. Most experts expect it to happen within two years.

So be a PC prepper today and order now.

 

[Hyet]

This thread is back on the menu!
I was looking at the dreadful pc component market and thought maybe it was an absolutely retarded idea to reconsider upgrading (I never upgraded a thing in the end).

I was thinking doing a more substantial upgrade and getting a Ryzen 5800X3D and a 5070Ti since it looks like I won't be able to get an upgrade in the next few years considering how the AI clownery is developing.

How stupid is this?

 

[Three]

This thread is back on the menu!
I was looking at the dreadful pc component market and thought maybe it was an absolutely retarded idea to reconsider upgrading (I never upgraded a thing in the end).

I was thinking doing a more substantial upgrade and getting a Ryzen 5800X3D and a 5070Ti since it looks like I won't be able to get an upgrade in the next few years considering how the AI clownery is developing.

How stupid is this?

You are better off just waiting until the new console gen at this point. They will have new cards and the prices for current lower end stuff will likely drop.

 

[Shifty1897]

This thing should chew through most games, but I do think your CPU is the weak link. Monster Hunter is notoriously CPU heavy. Upgrade that with a nice new motherboard and see what kind of improvements you get.

 

[Hyet]

This thing should chew through most games, but I do think your CPU is the weak link. Monster Hunter is notoriously CPU heavy. Upgrade that with a nice new motherboard and see what kind of improvements you get.

Well, now it's not about MH specifically but there are several games I want to be able to run with (real) frames to spare and I would like to pathtrace RE9 at good framerate at some point.

 

[Shifty1897]

Well, now it's not about MH specifically but there are several games I want to be able to run with (real) frames to spare and I would like to pathtrace RE9 at good framerate at some point.

Fair enough, if you've got the cash to upgrade everything for a PT rig, go for it. Prices aren't going down for at least another 2 or 3 years.

 

[Hyet]

Fair enough, if you've got the cash to upgrade everything for a PT rig, go for it. Prices aren't going down for at least another 2 or 3 years.

Well, yeah, thats the thing. Doing it now VS. doing it at an uncertain future that seems completely fucked. 5070Ti seemed like a good power upgrade and not a 200% bollocks price, and everyone previously recomended the 5700X3D, but since it seems it doesn't exist anymore the 58 doesn't seem too bad (even though the price ain't as good).

 

[rm082e]

This thread is back on the menu!
I was looking at the dreadful pc component market and thought maybe it was an absolutely retarded idea to reconsider upgrading (I never upgraded a thing in the end).

I was thinking doing a more substantial upgrade and getting a Ryzen 5800X3D and a 5070Ti since it looks like I won't be able to get an upgrade in the next few years considering how the AI clownery is developing.

How stupid is this?

If you can afford it, it's not stupid. I built in 2020 as well with a 3800x and 3080. I replaced the 3800x with a 5800x3d about a year ago, and replaced the 3080 with a 9070 XT about 5 months back. Both gave me significant boosts in frame rate in different games. The GPU bump was bigger than I expected.

 

[Hyet]

If you can afford it, it's not stupid. I built in 2020 as well with a 3800x and 3080. I replaced the 3800x with a 5800x3d about a year ago, and replaced the 3080 with a 9070 XT about 5 months back. Both gave me significant boosts in frame rate in different games. The GPU bump was bigger than I expected.

I also considered 9070XT, but DLSS and overall Nvidia stuff seems too good to give up.

 

[daninthemix]

Now's kind of not a great time to be upgrading.

 

[Hyet]

Now's kind of not a great time to be upgrading.

But how bad it's gonna be in 2028?

 

[keefged4]

I would only consider a CPU upgrade with your current setup tbh. The 3080 is still more than capable and will last you a good while yet.

Go for something like a 5700x3D.

 

[PeteBull]

This thread is back on the menu!
I was looking at the dreadful pc component market and thought maybe it was an absolutely retarded idea to reconsider upgrading (I never upgraded a thing in the end).

I was thinking doing a more substantial upgrade and getting a Ryzen 5800X3D and a 5070Ti since it looks like I won't be able to get an upgrade in the next few years considering how the AI clownery is developing.

How stupid is this?

Bro u had solid 6 months from feb 2025 of window of opportunity for decent prices upgrade time and u didnt take it
Now tho?

 

[Griffon]

Upgrade your CPU and you're good for another 10 years.

Edit: wait this thread is a full year old?! And you didn't upgrade anything for that long?!

 

[Hyet]

Upgrade your CPU and you're good for another 10 years.

Edit: wait this thread is a full year old?! And you didn't upgrade anything for that long?!

About that... yeah. I was about to get a 5700X3D on march but life happened and I didn't do it. Now that I see the datacentercalypse I though the idea was worth revisiting since it seems the whole thing it's gonna get worse in the next 4-ish years...

Now the 5700 is absolutely out of the question since no vendor carries it anymore apparently. So 58 it is (?)

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Nyet

 

[SScorpio]

Ryzen 5000 is a decent performance bump over 3000. But open the Steam in game performance overlay and see if the CPU really is the issue.

The X3D chips can help if you are going for those uber high frame rates. But I suspect it's the 3080 holding you back. Everyone is saying it's fine, but it's a 10GB card when people blow up about the 12GB 5070 not being enough. I went from a 3080ti to a 5070ti and the performance increase was huge compared to what the benchmarks say.

While you have a 1440p 240hz display. What are you actually targeting with games? 1440p 60hz?

I had a Ryzen 5900X I downgraded to a 5700X. I noticed no performance decrease, but a lot less power draw and heat generation.

 

[Hyet]

Ryzen 5000 is a decent performance bump over 3000. But open the Steam in game performance overlay and see if the CPU really is the issue.

The X3D chips can help if you are going for those uber high frame rates. But I suspect it's the 3080 holding you back. Everyone is saying it's fine, but it's a 10GB card when people blow up about the 12GB 5070 not being enough. I went from a 3080ti to a 5070ti and the performance increase was huge compared to what the benchmarks say.

While you have a 1440p 240hz display. What are you actually targeting with games? 1440p 60hz?

I had a Ryzen 5900X I downgraded to a 5700X. I noticed no performance decrease, but a lot less power draw and heat generation.

I play at 1440p and feel good about playing above 80 fps if there's no frame pacing or stutter. The extra hz on the monitor are icing on the cake for when playing older games or games that can run very smoothly like Overwatch and so.

 

[diffusionx]

I don't think the 3080 is holding up as well as people would have hoped. I have a 12 gb myself and was planning to get a 5080 but it's off the table now because it's not worth the inflated price to me. But if you can stomach paying the inflated prices, I would say, yes, bite the bullet, and pay it. It's not like new hardware is right over the horizon and coming out soon. Apparently Nvidia killed off the super line that was supposed to launch by now.

 

[rm082e]

I also considered 9070XT, but DLSS and overall Nvidia stuff seems too good to give up.

Sure. The 5070 Ti is equivalent, and will be a significant upgrade in performance over the 3080 though. That's my point. I saw my frame rate more than double in Oblivion remastered at 1440 when I replaced the card.