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[longdi]

I think CPU tech holds out better, like if you wait and get ryzen 12 cores cpu later, it should last you the whole ps5 gen. If you get a 2080 now, it will look sucky next year and your old cpu will underplay it now.
Im on a overclocked 5960x going to be 5 years old now. And i still can wait unit PS5 next year. Even Bf5 64p cant touch it!
Granted 5960x was Intel extreme range back then, for only $999, cheap!

Oh another thing i experienced, the higher end motherboards do last longer. I done a few budget builds, and those cheaper motherboards always die after 3 years.

 

[luca_29_bg]

I know others have said it, but I have an i7 860 in my backup computer. Only used when friends come over and want to play PubG or something together.

That CPU bottlenecks the GTX 1060 that is in it. Pretty hard too.
Buy a $100 1050ti or a 1060 at most.

I don't play multiplayer games!

 

[luca_29_bg]

I think CPU tech holds out better, like if you wait and get ryzen 12 cores cpu later, it should last you the whole ps5 gen. If you get a 2080 now, it will look sucky next year and your old cpu will underplay it now.
Im on a overclocked 5960x going to be 5 years old now. And i still can wait unit PS5 next year. Even Bf5 64p cant touch it!
Granted 5960x was Intel extreme range back then, for only $999, cheap!

Oh another thing i experienced, the higher end motherboards do last longer. I done a few budget builds, and those cheaper motherboards always die after 3 years.

Well my motherboard it had to be cheap enough when it was come out and luckily for me it's still working. It's this https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P7P55D_LE/

So do you think that no actual gpu will last for the entire ps5 generation ?

However for the types of games i play, my cpu it's still holding up for my needs. :/

 

[luca_29_bg]

Uhm nvidia is working to a super version of 2060 with 8 gb vram, right ?

 

[luca_29_bg]

Get an
RTX 2080
i5 9600 cpu
And 16 gigs of ram. It'll last you a good 4-5 years

You can't use that ancient cpu any longer. It's older than my grandfather.

in 2020/21 i will do

 

[V4skunk]

Unfortunately there's no such thing in the PC world. I think people are just trying to stop you wasting your your money on something that will not benefit you. The GFX card will only do what the CPU tells it to do therefore when your CPU is at 100%, a mismatched GPU is largely wasting it's time. Why not get an RTX2060 if you want to see what ray tracing looks like, still a little wasted in that system but RT capable (sort of). Or a second hand GTX 1070, I believe has RT enabled these days. With the money you save you'll be able to build a new PC sooner as the 2080 is daft money. The above cards will also be easier on you PSU.

However, just buy a 2080 and try it if you want, it's your money . People are suggesting alternatives because you've asked. Very few people on here would match that GPU with your current CPU. For the cost of a 2080 you could build an entire system based on a cheaper card and more recent i5 that would give you better performance than putting a 2080 in your current system.

Not true some pc upgrades in the past truly did future proof your system. 8800GTX, AMD 7900 series and 2nd gen i7 k series cpu.

 

[yoyo67]

Well i have an i7 6700 with a gtx1080ti, and 16gb of ram. You can buy the cpu and gpu used, they are very sturdy. Just make sure to read the descriptions on ebay and email the seller for more info if you need it. The gpu was $550 for the gigabyte auros, and I believe $220 for the i7 6700. Not bad at all. Also, make sure to get a mobo with bluetooth 5.0 (or higher) and built in wifi. Or buy a wifi card with bluetooth 5.0 built in.

The case is important, I bought a cheap one and its really shitty, the parts are hard to install and the holes never align properly. Find something decent with several good reviews.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I just need 30 fps minimum, rememeber this

And you’ll get that with something like 1060/580.

And an additional $400 to upgrade the motherboard CPU and memory!

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Not true some pc upgrades in the past truly did future proof your system. 8800GTX, AMD 7900 series and 2nd gen i7 k series cpu.

Not true. Crysis came out around the time of the 8800GTX and it was pretty toast for running Crysis.

 

[luca_29_bg]

And you’ll get that with something like 1060/580.

And an additional $400 to upgrade the motherboard CPU and memory!

i can't get dowsampled 4k with 1060/580, plus very high supersampling for old games, and emulators. So these 1080p cards are not enough for me.

 

[V4skunk]

So a 2080 can't give me locked 30 fps because the cpu ? ( i don't play first person shooters, i don't like these types of games)

You need a fast cpu to run the gpu.

Not true. Crysis came out around the time of the 8800GTX and it was pretty toast for running Crysis.

Yes it is true. And nothing can run crysis well, even to this day.

 

[V4skunk]

So a 2080 can't give me locked 30 fps because the cpu ? ( i don't play first person shooters, i don't like these types of games)

Who knows but some thing like a rx580 could equal the 2080 in performance with your system because of the cpu bottleneck.

 

[bobone]

I don't play multiplayer games!

That's not the point tho.
The point is that anything above a 1050ti/1060 will be wasting your money because of the harsh CPU bottleneck

Just fyi, My i7-4770 bottlenecks my GTX 1080. CPU matters alot with todays games.

 

[Sweetloaf]

some pc upgrades in the past truly did future proof your system.

Read that sentence back to yourself please

A £650 GPU is certainly not future proof, when luca builds his system he will be able to buy a better card for the same money or a least the same card for a lot less and could achieve the same performance now with a card for around the £150 mark (probably still bottle necked by his CPU).

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Read that sentence back to yourself please

A £650 GPU is certainly not future proof, when luca builds his system he will be able to buy a better card for the same money or a least the same card for a lot less and could achieve the same performance now with a card for around the £150 mark (probably still bottle necked by his CPU).

Nope. He somehow just CANT upgrade his CPU until 2020/2021. He cannot take the $600+ he would spend on a 2080 and instead upgrade to a far more beneficial B450/Ryzen 2600/16GB RAM/1660 Ti. He just CANT. It HAS to be in 2020/21.

He hasn't told us, but its a little known fact that an i7 860 CPU/mobo combo features a self destruct mechanism in that if you try and replace the CPU/mobo with an upgrade it will explode and cause a massive loss of life until the self-destruct mechanism expires in 2020. Thoughts and prayers to luca. He has no choice. Using the $600+ absolutely must go to a 2080. He CANT do the far more sensible thing and upgrade the mobo/CPU. Its simply not an option.

 

[luca_29_bg]

That's not the point tho.
The point is that anything above a 1050ti/1060 will be wasting your money because of the harsh CPU bottleneck

Just fyi, My i7-4770 bottlenecks my GTX 1080. CPU matters alot with todays games.

But the point is i need minimum 30 fps but with the possibility to use downsampling...

 

[luca_29_bg]

Nope. He somehow just CANT upgrade his CPU until 2020/2021. He cannot take the $600+ he would spend on a 2080 and instead upgrade to a far more beneficial B450/Ryzen 2600/16GB RAM/1660 Ti. He just CANT. It HAS to be in 2020/21.

He hasn't told us, but its a little known fact that an i7 860 CPU/mobo combo features a self destruct mechanism in that if you try and replace the CPU/mobo with an upgrade it will explode and cause a massive loss of life until the self-destruct mechanism expires in 2020. Thoughts and prayers to luca. He has no choice. Using the $600+ absolutely must go to a 2080. He CANT do the far more sensible thing and upgrade the mobo/CPU. Its simply not an option.

You're very funny!!! Ahahahahahahaha i'm laughing so hard here XD XD XD

 

[luca_29_bg]

So come back to be serious guys, what do you think of this ?
https://www.gpucheck.com/it-eur/com...700k-3-70ghz/ultra-vs-ultra-vs-ultra-vs-ultra how reliable are these benchmarks ? I can't choose cpu oc to 3.7 but i don't understand why the fps should be lower in high resolution with the same gpu with my cpu, in my case downsampling usage from high resolution, and higher with another cpu, . Someone can explain me this ? Resolution shouldn't be gpu dependent ?

 

[luca_29_bg]

You need a fast cpu to run the gpu.
Yes it is true. And nothing can run crysis well, even to this day.

Really ? Crysis can't keep locked 60fps 1080p even nowdays ? O_O

 

[luca_29_bg]

So....i bought a gpu!!!!! Let's see if you guess which gpu

 

[Sweetloaf]

RTX 2060

 

[luca_29_bg]

RTX 2060

Nein!

 

[Sweetloaf]

ATI 980pro

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Nein!

It seems like you made the decision that almost everyone told you was the dumb one.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

You need a fast cpu to run the gpu.
Yes it is true. And nothing can run crysis well, even to this day.

I remember getting my 8800GTX and being pissed at how poorly it ran.

Fuck Crysis and it’s terrible coding.

Crytek should release the source code and see if moddera can patch it up.

Admittedly I never felt the game was all that great. I enjoyed the 2nd and 3rd game quite a bit more.

 

[luca_29_bg]

It seems like you made the decision that almost everyone told you was the dumb one.

Nope! XD

 

[luca_29_bg]

Come on people some imagination!

 

[CyberPanda]

What are we imagining? I’m confused

 

[JohnnyFootball]

What are we imagining? I’m confused

He went all out.

 

[CyberPanda]

He went all out.

Digitalstorm is awesome. They're expensive but make great rigs.

 

[luca_29_bg]

He went all out.

Ahahaha i wish!

 

[luca_29_bg]

So nobody guesses ?

 

[luca_29_bg]

Moreover, can i have some help for ram ? I want to add another 8 gb, my motherboard support only maximum 16 gb ram and i would like to buy the cheapest possible, considering how old is my pc. What do you suggest ? This is my mb https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P7P55D_LE/ and in the support section there are the types of dimms supported. I have right now 4 dimms of 2 gb each so i can use maximum 4 gb dimm sieze. On amazon it's still very pricey this old model https://www.amazon.it/dp/B001UR61Z0/ O__O
Well it's already better for samsung model https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003KVJTIK/

And this would work ? It's really cheap https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008CP5Q7M/

Because the orverclock of the cpu, i was forced to lower the speed of ram, otherwise my pc was instable. So this 1600 mhz would be better for my needs ? https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008CP5QR2/

Here my ram configuration by cpu-z

 

[Mecha Meow]

I still suggest you get a cheaper video card and upgrade the rest of your system on the cheap for far better parts.

You can still super sample on 1060/2060/580/Vega 56's/etc and get around 30+ frames in most games (with slight tweaks).

Here's damn near 4k super sample of Final Fantasy XIV I did back in 2015 on an R9 390



Not the best example but it was still running at 45fps on that

 

[luca_29_bg]

I still suggest you get a cheaper video card and upgrade the rest of your system on the cheap for far better parts.

You can still super sample on 1060/2060/580/Vega 56's/etc and get around 30+ frames in most games (with slight tweaks).

Here's damn near 4k super sample of Final Fantasy XIV I did back in 2015 on an R9 390



Not the best example but it was still running at 45fps on that

Indeed i bought a cheap card, happy ?

 

[Grechy34]

Looks like your old PC has given you many good years and you’ve definitely got your value out of it. My suggestion would be to start from scratch now and build around a 2080 if you want to go down that route. Putting a 2080 in your current rig would bottleneck. Your ram and CPU would just not be able to manage the load. As a previous poster suggested if you don't care about 60+ frames but like your games running at a solid 30 and looking nice then I would say something like an Xbox One X or Ps4 Pro is definitely down your alley.

 

[Mecha Meow]

Indeed i bought a cheap card, happy ?

Not really, I just want you to get the most of your money which would still get you a pretty massive upgrade all around.

You came in here asking for advice and damn near hand waved it all away, making it very frustrating to reason with you.

If you bought a 2080, fine, its your money and I hope it makes you happy.

Good luck with your decisions.

 

[luca_29_bg]

Not really, I just want you to get the most of your money which would still get you a pretty massive upgrade all around.

You came in here asking for advice and damn near hand waved it all away, making it very frustrating to reason with you.

If you bought a 2080, fine, its your money and I hope it makes you happy.

Good luck with your decisions.

I was just trying to underline my needs, but however i changed my mind, i didn't want to give all those money to Nvidia, knowing that in some years better gpu with lower price will come out, so i decided to come back to my first decision about a new gpu, because since my 7950 blow up, i wanted to buy a mid range gpu but then i was tempted by high end gpus but i came to the conclusion, also thanks to your opinions, that this is not the best moment and i can be happy with something moderate for a little more time for my old pc, waiting better times and a new rig too. ^^

 

[baphomet]

You shouldn't be putting any more money into your current PC.

You should be piecing together a new one with whatever money you saved.

 

[Grechy34]

I was just trying to underline my needs, but however i changed my mind, i didn't want to give all those money to Nvidia, knowing that in some years better gpu with lower price will come out, so i decided to come back to my first decision about a new gpu, because since my 7950 blow up, i wanted to buy a mid range gpu but then i was tempted by high end gpus but i came to the conclusion, also thanks to your opinions, that this is not the best moment and i can be happy with something moderate for a little more time for my old pc, waiting better times and a new rig too. ^^

Never not buy components with the thought that in x amount of time there will be something better on the horizon. There is always something better on the horizon in this space. My advice is to make the purchase and be content and happy with what you have because I can guarantee you any purchase you make will be outdated in next to no time.

 

[luca_29_bg]

Well my 7950 has lasted years (2012-2019) and it served me really well. My needs are different than other people needs of course. And i play where i want to play, because as i said, my needs are different than your or any other people of course, but thank you for your advice.

 

[joe_zazen]

I remember getting my 8800GTX and being pissed at how poorly it ran.

Fuck Crysis and it’s terrible coding.

Crytek should release the source code and see if moddera can patch it up.

Admittedly I never felt the game was all that great. I enjoyed the 2nd and 3rd game quite a bit more.

They made it so that there would be headroom for the game to take advantage of future gpus. What happened was a bunch of people got pissed that their new overpriced gpus couldnt handled the maxxed out settings and started telling everyone the game was coded badly. It was kinda funny to watch, even funnier to see it happening today.

One thing everyone learned from crysis was to avoid expensive gpu owner trash talk, do not build future gpu headroom into your game settings.

 

[joe_zazen]

Well my 7950 has lasted years (2012-2019) and it served me really well. My needs are different than other people needs of course. And i play where i want to play, because as i said, my needs are different than your or any other people of course, but thank you for your advice.

As a guy still rocking an 875k (unlocked 860) and a 7970, i get where you are coming from. What did you buy, by the way?

My guess is a rx580.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

They made it so that there would be headroom for the game to take advantage of future gpus. What happened was a bunch of people got pissed that their new overpriced gpus couldnt handled the maxxed out settings and started telling everyone the game was coded badly. It was kinda funny to watch, even funnier to see it happening today.

One thing everyone learned from crysis was to avoid expensive gpu owner trash talk, do not build future gpu headroom into your game settings.

The game still runs like shit.

 

[joe_zazen]

The game still runs like shit.

Fair dues. Maybe they built head room and coded poorly.

 

[luca_29_bg]

As a guy still rocking an 875k (unlocked 860) and a 7970, i get where you are coming from. What did you buy, by the way?

My guess is a rx580.

Someone can understand me! However about the gpu, you were so close...

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

RX570.

 

[luca_29_bg]

RX570.

Naaaahhh XD

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

RX590?

 

[luca_29_bg]

RX590?

Bingo!!! ^_^