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Henry Cavill Warhammer 40K TV Series Might Not Happen

jason10mm

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He should just take one of the scripts he's been workshopping and a bunch of nicely painted minis and just act it out on a table top. Call in some favors for some celebs, basically make it a WH40K version of something like Critical Role blended with a puppet show. I bet that would do pretty well and give everyone an idea of where he wants to go with the IP.

If he does it shirtless after a couple of weeks of prep I bet it will get 95% female viewers as well :p
 

Trogdor1123

Member
He should just take one of the scripts he's been workshopping and a bunch of nicely painted minis and just act it out on a table top. Call in some favors for some celebs, basically make it a WH40K version of something like Critical Role blended with a puppet show. I bet that would do pretty well and give everyone an idea of where he wants to go with the IP.

If he does it shirtless after a couple of weeks of prep I bet it will get 95% female viewers as well :p
I would watch that…
 

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Basically, the current political climate and everyone jumping on leftist, purity ideal will make the show impossible to be faithful to WH40k. Considering WH40k and its entire lore is basically antithesis of what politically correct leftists believe.

Also, GW will never agree to something that they don't have the power over Amazon and writers when it comes to their IP and Henry Cavil; is just too much of a faithful fan of WH40k to compromise to anything to not repeat the Witcher mistake.

It was a pipe dream from the beginning.
I was just reading r/40klore and somebody asked if trans people existed in 40k. Apparently there are a few examples in canon as well as non binary characters who even use they/them pronouns. One odd one is a trans Necron but not sure how that works. Male Eldar and Drukhari apparently sometimes transition to fit in with all female groups. Oh and supposedly the Emperor is dark skinned and was once a female. Although in artwork he always looks more Native American to me but I guess that could be considered dark skinned.
 
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Tams

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I was just reading r/40klore and somebody asked if trans people existed in 40k. Apparently there are a few examples in canon as well as non binary characters who even use they/them pronouns. One odd one is a trans Necron but not sure how that works. Male Eldar and Drukhari apparently sometimes transition to fit in with all female groups. Oh and supposedly the Emperor is dark skinned and was once a female. Although in artwork he always looks more Native American to me but I guess that could be considered dark skinned.

I mean, the whole 40k world is so incredibly fucked up, so a bit of bodily mutilation here and there is nothing.
 

gatti-man

Member
The clock is ticking. Amazon will lose the rights if they can’t come to an agreement with Games Workshop by the end of December.

As a company GW has never been stronger with a market cap of around £4.5 billion. Part of the growth has been attributed to licensing the IP such as to games like SM2. With the upcoming release of the Amazon Secret Level episode it’s only likely to improve its reach further.

I’m hoping that GW’s growth and success gives them the confidence to be uncompromising with Amazon who have a track record for putting out some very poor adaptions of beloved IP. Maybe Amazon and GW want to see how the Secret Level episode performs before they agree?

I’m a 40K fan but hope the deal falls through if I’m honest. I’m already concerned that it’s going to be diluted and butchered in an effort to reach a larger audience.
I agree that Amazon can butcher IP but who else will give them the budget even a basic space marine story would require let alone a sweeping epic? No one.
 

Zathalus

Member
I was just reading r/40klore and somebody asked if trans people existed in 40k. Apparently there are a few examples in canon as well as non binary characters who even use they/them pronouns. One odd one is a trans Necron but not sure how that works. Male Eldar and Drukhari apparently sometimes transition to fit in with all female groups. Oh and supposedly the Emperor is dark skinned and was once a female. Although in artwork he always looks more Native American to me but I guess that could be considered dark skinned.
The Emperor was born in Anatolia so would likely look like an Anatolian Turk. But he is also a Psyker of significant power so changing his appearance and gender would be child’s play. He has lived both as a man and woman over his long life, so as to better understand mankind.

As for Necrons they are machines so gender is probably a more nebulous concept for them. They reflect what they were back when they had souls and flesh, but changing that is likely quite easy.
 

Trogdor1123

Member
The Emperor was born in Anatolia so would likely look like an Anatolian Turk. But he is also a Psyker of significant power so changing his appearance and gender would be child’s play. He has lived both as a man and woman over his long life, so as to better understand mankind.

As for Necrons they are machines so gender is probably a more nebulous concept for them. They reflect what they were back when they had souls and flesh, but changing that is likely quite easy.
I don’t believe he has lived as a woman or a man but rather appeared as either.

I’d have to double check the quote though to be sure. It’s in one of the last two seige of Terra books and is from Malcador I think?
 

llien

Member
There are women and black people everywhere in 40K, so this whole DEI thing is a massive straw man when talking about these negotiations.
There was no lack of women in Witcher either, but see how it went.
This sort of denials after "Sweed Baby" story broke out is annoying.
 

FunkMiller

Member
There was no lack of women in Witcher either, but see how it went.
This sort of denials after "Sweed Baby" story broke out is annoying.

Totally different thing. The Witcher is a small story, told with a few specific characters, some of which Netflix race swapped for no good reason. 40K is gigantic. They can create brand new characters for everything and it wouldn’t matter. In fact, that’s likely what they will do. Everything is canon, so no real need to adapt any specific characters from the books.
 
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FunkMiller

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The Emperor was born in Anatolia so would likely look like an Anatolian Turk. But he is also a Psyker of significant power so changing his appearance and gender would be child’s play. He has lived both as a man and woman over his long life, so as to better understand mankind.

The Turks hadn’t migrated from Asia in 8000 BC when he was born. They didn’t come along for thousands of years. He was from a Bronze Age Hittite village. So his original looks could well be Caucasian, but with the characteristic dark hair we all know him for.

It’s better to say he disguised himself as both men and women down through his life. Otherwise, The fucking leftie loonies try to grab on to the fact he did that to pretend he was in some way gender fluid 🙄
 
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Zathalus

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The Turks hadn’t migrated from Asia in 8000 BC when he was born. They didn’t come along for thousands of years. He was from a Bronze Age Hittite village. So his original looks could well be Caucasian, but with the characteristic dark hair we all know him for.

It’s better to say he disguised himself as both men and women down through his life. Otherwise, The fucking leftie loonies try to grab on to the fact he did that to pretend he was in some way gender fluid 🙄
Yeah I wouldn't say he was gender fluid either. He was born as a man and refers to himself as a man. He just has the capability to change gender & form, but that is just advanced biomancy at work, it doesn't change who he is or how he thinks of himself.

You're right about the ancestry thing, it would be Anatolia Neolithic which apparently have with minor Levantine and Caucasus-related ancestry.
 

Cyberpunkd

Member
The Emperor was born in Anatolia so would likely look like an Anatolian Turk.
Can you imagine the shitstorm that will cause on the extreme-right?

Fascists: did we worship the wrong guy all this time?

Debra Morgan Dexter GIF
 

Zathalus

Member
Can you imagine the shitstorm that will cause on the extreme-right?

Fascists: did we worship the wrong guy all this time?

Debra Morgan Dexter GIF
Well his ancestry is where we would consider Turks to live these days he actually precedes them. He would look whitish most likely, as in lighter skin but slightly different facial features and dark hair.

But the extreme-right doesn't seem to realize or care that Jesus was a Jew from the Middle East so I doubt it would phase them.
 
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FunkMiller

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So is Star Wars, but see how it went.
When rules are set by the oppression charlatans priorities shift, cough.

Star Wars is tiny by comparison. It’s all about one family 😂 Disney killed off anything else - and even that was nowhere near the size of 40K.
 
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OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
He's also doing Highlander and Voltron. Seems like he's got a lot going all at once. I'd be surprised if they all came out. There's only so much time in the day.
 

FunkMiller

Member
He's also doing Highlander and Voltron. Seems like he's got a lot going all at once. I'd be surprised if they all came out. There's only so much time in the day.

The Warhammer thing is meant to be a lot more long term, with him in a high position of power. People think he’s going to star in something straight away might be disappointed. He’s very much in it to produce as much as he is star.
 

Trilobit

Member
I think he's racially ambiguous, but he's definitely not European white.

In those pictures he looks romanian/greek to me. Of course I have no idea what European white means. Here we describe "European white" people's looks based on nationality. So a person looks either French, Greek, Slavic, Spanish, British or Nordic for example.
 
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If Cavil and GW are still figuring out the story to this mess than we are looking at 4+ years before we even get anything on screen if we're lucky to at all. Needless to say, his post may get people excited because its still "officially happening" but I'm doubtful it happens.
 
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T8SC

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If Cavil and GW are still figuring out the story to this mess than we are looking at 4+ years before we even get anything on screen if we're lucky to at all. Needless to say, his post may get people excited because its still "officially happening" but I'm doubtful it happens.

Who pissed on your Corn Flakes?

It says they have a starting point, let's try to be optimistic for once. It doesn't take 4+ years to develop a story for an already established IP.
 

T8SC

Member
Anyone watch the secret level episode yet?

No. Apparently it continues the story of the game (SM2) so not sure if I have to have played that first. I hope that's not the case as it could mean its confusing for casuals who just want to watch the episode.
 

Trogdor1123

Member
No. Apparently it continues the story of the game (SM2) so not sure if I have to have played that first. I hope that's not the case as it could mean its confusing for casuals who just want to watch the episode.
I just watched the first 8 minutes… it’s exactly the way I’d have seen the space marines be. It’s awesome

Edit: yeah, it’s good. Short, but good. If they make the series this way I’m all in.

Probably going to grab a month of Warhammer + to watch stuff there. It’s not too much but still, it’s something
 
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Who pissed on your Corn Flakes?

It says they have a starting point, let's try to be optimistic for once. It doesn't take 4+ years to develop a story for an already established IP.

How can you be optimistic when its been months since we first heard Cavill was working with Amazon on this and so far all we have to show for is him and GW brainstorming ideas. I seriously hope I'm wrong but the snails pace that movies/shows and games move at nowadays leaves little room for optimism. This just feels like it has development hell written all over it.
 
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T8SC

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How can you be optimistic when its been months since we first heard Cavill was working with Amazon on this and so far all we have to show for is him and GW brainstorming ideas. I seriously hope I'm wrong but the snails pace that movies/shows and games move at nowadays leaves little room for optimism. This just feels like it has development hell written all over it.

I'd rather it move slowly and be right than move quickly and be completely unfaithful to the source material like most shows these days.
 

FunkMiller

Member
How can you be optimistic when its been months since we first heard Cavill was working with Amazon on this and so far all we have to show for is him and GW brainstorming ideas. I seriously hope I'm wrong but the snails pace that movies/shows and games move at nowadays leaves little room for optimism. This just feels like it has development hell written all over it.

It’s definitely happening. You think Henry just threw that post out there? It was a carefully co-ordinated piece of news, only put out because the project has now been green lit. It’s not in development hell. It was never in development hell.

And fuck me, in a world of terrible adaptations, I’m delighted they took this long to get everything sorted out.
 

Kadve

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Always looks like a grim faced white dude with dark hair to me.

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He was known for using his psychic ability to alter his appearance so that different people saw different things when they looked at him. This is just how he is depicted in Imperial propaganda so we really don't know what his true appearance is like.
 

FunkMiller

Member
He was known for using his psychic ability to alter his appearance so that different people saw different things when they looked at him. This is just how he is depicted in Imperial propaganda so we really don't know what his true appearance is like.

The Emperor Vs Horus by Adrian Smith is not Imperial propaganda. The Imperium would not allow its citizens to see an image of the god emperor's son slain at the feet of his other chaos corrupted son! In fact, all of it would be heresy. The same goes for any depiction of the final battle aboard the Vengeful Spirit.
 
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FunkMiller

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Okay I'm not saying this is true or not but I saw this.



Please don't quote that cunt Arch. He has no idea what's really going on. He's a grifting little turd who claims to have 'insider knowledge' but absolutely does not. Anything he posts can be safely fucking ignored.
 
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Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Please don't quote that cunt Archcast. He has no idea what's really going on. He's a grifting little turd who claims to have 'insider knowledge' but absolutely does not.
Hence my disclaimer since I don't really know this person or account.
 

FunkMiller

Member
Hence my disclaimer since I don't really know this person or account.

He's basically Grummz for 40k. Been claiming to 'have friends inside GW' for years now... and comprehensively gets everything utterly wrong. He's a bit of a laughing stock for anyone who is actually involved with the company in any way.
 

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
He's basically Grummz for 40k. Been claiming to 'have friends inside GW' for years now... and comprehensively gets everything utterly wrong. He's a bit of a laughing stock for anyone who is actually involved with the company in any way.
I should probably research to see if there's legit sources for his claims but I'm too lazy and depressed to do it right now.
 

Trogdor1123

Member
Please don't quote that cunt Arch. He has no idea what's really going on. He's a grifting little turd who claims to have 'insider knowledge' but absolutely does not. Anything he posts can be safely fucking ignored.
I hope you are right… I wouldn’t be too happy if Amazon went a different… direction
 
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