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JoeMartin

Member
Sanjay said:
LOL just heard them say peace out to each other on Chu's stream. Fickle bitches.

They do this shit like every day. Watching chu's stream with sound is dumb because all they do - ALL OF THEM - is bicker constantly.
 

IceMarker

Member
bzm said:
Perhaps, but lets do a thought experiment shall we?
3.0 is released, tons of new balances, kraken isnt dumb OP anymore, sweet new heroes! But: Every model in the game is replaced with teen hound. Do you still play?
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Swag

Member
JoeMartin said:
They do this shit like every day. Watching chu's stream with sound is dumb because all they do - ALL OF THEM - is bicker constantly.
This is honestly what makes Chu's stream, so much better then Testie
 
chu is awesome, he makes me giggle @ night.

he always interact with his teamates in a funny way. I wish all the koreans I know IRL are like him!
 

IceMarker

Member
I'm so sick of being a goddamn punching bag for this community. The vicious circle continues, and I thought it was over after months of dealing with it. No, if I make one fucking mistake in game, I usually simply disguise it as 'trolling' to my teammates to protect myself from having to admit I made a fucking mistake, a bad side effect of that is that they get salty due to my salt of making a mistake. The key example tonight being casting my ultimate as Witch Slayer on a hero who will undoubtedly die without it. I saw the lifebar drain away on him, I wanted the kill especially after missing the stun point blank, and had a mini-selfish-panic and hit R and clicked him. Afterwards I hear over Mumble shortly "MrMister wtf" and a bunch of 'ooh's, Swiftlame typing in chat "That was bad", I laugh it off and call it trolling them so I don't have to admit the mistake, Swiftlame types "no I'm serious". And of course from there both sides just make it worse, I should've admitted the mistake, would've been easier, but more saltier for me. Either way I'm am fucking done with the goddamn bullshit this community distributes. I can already see the BZM smartass remark post and the Sebulon expectation post, and who knows what else thrown at me.

I want some goddamn REAL TALK. Not jokingly mentioning the phrase, I want some real goddamn talk for once because I am sick of the bullshit we all distribute on a daily basis. What the fuck is going on in HoN-GAF?
 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
MrMister said:
I'm so sick of being a goddamn punching bag for this community. The vicious circle continues, and I thought it was over after months of dealing with it. No, if I make one fucking mistake in game, I usually simply disguise it as 'trolling' to my teammates to protect myself from having to admit I made a fucking mistake, a bad side effect of that is that they get salty due to my salt of making a mistake. The key example tonight being casting my ultimate as Witch Slayer on a hero who will undoubtedly die without it. I saw the lifebar drain away on him, I wanted the kill especially after missing the stun point blank, and had a mini-selfish-panic and hit R and clicked him. Afterwards I hear over Mumble shortly "MrMister wtf" and a bunch of 'ooh's, Swiftlame typing in chat "That was bad", I laugh it off and call it trolling them so I don't have to admit the mistake, Swiftlame types "no I'm serious". And of course from there both sides just make it worse, I should've admitted the mistake, would've been easier, but more saltier for me. Either way I'm am fucking done with the goddamn bullshit this community distributes. I can already see the BZM smartass remark post and the Sebulon expectation post, and who knows what else thrown at me.

I want some goddamn REAL TALK. Not jokingly mentioning the phrase, I want some real goddamn talk for once because I am sick of the bullshit we all distribute on a daily basis. What the fuck is going on in HoN-GAF?

Everyone gets called out for mistakes dude... look at Sanjay--he gets it the worst. It's just after getting called out, from my experience, you get really mad at your team and start escalating things. Take it all in stride, and learn to ignore the teasing (we ALL get this, and sometimes it does actually hurt and make you made--whenever someone repeatedly does this to me I put them on ignore for a few minutes until I cool off and it all passes by).

Just.......... lllleeet the rain fall dowwn!
 

Swag

Member
MrMister said:
I'm so sick of being a goddamn punching bag for this community. The vicious circle continues, and I thought it was over after months of dealing with it. No, if I make one fucking mistake in game, I usually simply disguise it as 'trolling' to my teammates to protect myself from having to admit I made a fucking mistake, a bad side effect of that is that they get salty due to my salt of making a mistake. The key example tonight being casting my ultimate as Witch Slayer on a hero who will undoubtedly die without it. I saw the lifebar drain away on him, I wanted the kill especially after missing the stun point blank, and had a mini-selfish-panic and hit R and clicked him. Afterwards I hear over Mumble shortly "MrMister wtf" and a bunch of 'ooh's, Swiftlame typing in chat "That was bad", I laugh it off and call it trolling them so I don't have to admit the mistake, Swiftlame types "no I'm serious". And of course from there both sides just make it worse, I should've admitted the mistake, would've been easier, but more saltier for me. Either way I'm am fucking done with the goddamn bullshit this community distributes. I can already see the BZM smartass remark post and the Sebulon expectation post, and who knows what else thrown at me.

I want some goddamn REAL TALK. Not jokingly mentioning the phrase, I want some real goddamn talk for once because I am sick of the bullshit we all distribute on a daily basis. What the fuck is going on in HoN-GAF?

Yo, telling your teammates your going to troll them probably doesn't make for a good team atmosphere, as well as blatant Kill Steals so that you can "Boost my K/D" in a no stats game, as well as farming and getting mad at your team for asking you to participate.

But hey of course everyone is being mean to you! Man the fuck up and admit you did something wrong next time and maybe people won't be upset with you.

Thanks for the legendary mad in mumble though, I'll be sure to record it next time.
 

Insured

Member
MrMister said:
Personally, being somewhat of a newbie to the community and trying to remain as neutral as possible, you're getting way too much shit for what you are doing. But you also react to things rather extremely, so I can sort of see how it ended up like this. I'd hate to be in your position, but really you need to grow a thicker skin here. People will treat you far better if you don't overreact to losing, know where you stand and try to laugh it off when bad shit happens, and most of all control your temper... ._. I think that's the biggest thing here. You seem like a very decent calm guy, but then a game goes bad for you and you lose it. Don't. It'll get better.
 

IceMarker

Member
Sebulon3k said:
Thanks for the legendary mad in mumble though, I'll be sure to record it next time.
Don't worry I'm more than happy to say I'll never give it to you. You condescending prick.

Insured said:
You seem like a very decent calm guy, but then a game goes bad for you and you lose it. Don't. It'll get better.
I have to keep reminding to the community that I can be sensitive and emotional, but everyone just happens to keep forgetting.

Anbokr said:
(we ALL get this, and sometimes it does actually hurt and make you made--whenever someone repeatedly does this to me I put them on ignore for a few minutes until I cool off and it all passes by)
I think I'll try that.
 

Guesong

Member
Wasn't there, but if you made a mistake, man up and accept it rather than start a wave of snowballing events by attempting to hide it (especially "lol trolling!" in what I assume was an IHL game judging from the other thread ; yeah no, it's an IHL, it's srs time or gtfo). There's nothing wrong with making mistakes, and people won't get mad if you simply accept a mistake or say "Sorry I panicked". Live and learn.

Also Insured touch an important point here ; it seems to me that you are only okay so long as you are winning. Why is that? Losing a good game is as fun as winning a good one. All the "fun" is located in the road leading to a Win/Loss result, not in the result itself. I think you should let that obsession with W/L go. It does not mean trolling with item builds nor anything else, it only means playing the game at hand and appreciate if it's a good game.
 

Sanjay

Member
Anbokr said:
Everyone gets called out for mistakes dude... look at Sanjay--he gets it the worst. It's just after getting called out, from my experience, you get really mad at your team and start escalating things. Take it all in stride, and learn to ignore the teasing (we ALL get this, and sometimes it does actually hurt and make you mad--whenever someone repeatedly does this to me I put them on ignore for a few minutes until I cool off and it all passes by).

When I make a mistake I will always admit it. I only get pissed off when people make unwarranted backhanded insults during a game when a game is not going well and look for escape goats. Just stay quite for awhile and cool off. I mean who the hell wants a Bkid vs Ensoe E-PENIS WARS on mumble.

Freakinchair, Alumnus and Nilay do have free hate passes though, playing with them is guarantee laughter.
 

Insured

Member
Guesong said:
Also Insured touch an important point here ; it seems to me that you are only okay so long as you are winning. Why is that? Losing a good game is as fun as winning a good one. All the "fun" is located in the road leading to a Win/Loss result, not in the result itself. I think you should let that obsession with W/L go. It does not mean trolling with item builds nor anything else, it only means playing the game at hand and appreciate if it's a good game.
I think in MrMr's case, it's not the losing itself that annoys him as much as the fact he feels he himself could've (or, SHOULD HAVE) played a lot better. I'm a bit similar :D
 

Guesong

Member
Insured said:
I think in MrMr's case, it's not the losing itself that annoys him as much as the fact he feels he himself could've (or, SHOULD HAVE) played a lot better. I'm a bit similar :D

I can understand the feeling if that is the case, though it also means his anger would be toward himself and his pride, not necesarily HoNGAF's fault.

I mean, by picking Witch Slayer you kind of have to shut your pride down for the game, realize most of the big plays will be done by others, that your GPM will be horrid and your items even more horrid, but that in the end, if your team wins, despite you not having a big score, you will have contributed elsewise and your team thank you for it.

It's like me and my TMM matches with gaffers yesterday. Picking Monarch and Plague, I'm not looking for kills nor for GPM (fuck was it depressing when I was at 50 GPM for a good while), le but I was enabling Anbokr to farm on his Sand Wraith and eventually this won us the game. Stats will never show this. Nobody thanked me. But we won the game, and I know I helped in that, and I had fun.

Overnuke someone all you will if you are playing a carry, but always stay within your role for the good of the team.
 

Tomat

Wanna hear a good joke? Waste your time helping me! LOL!
If you make a mistake just say it, saying you're trolling ain't a good way to go about it.

Guesong The French Canananadian said:
Also Insured touch an important point here ; it seems to me that you are only okay so long as you are winning. Why is that? Losing a good game is as fun as winning a good one. All the "fun" is located in the road leading to a Win/Loss result, not in the result itself. I think you should let that obsession with W/L go. It does not mean trolling with item builds nor anything else, it only means playing the game at hand and appreciate if it's a good game.
Different strokes for different folks. I can kind of relate here on some level (I think we call can). I really dislike losing sometimes, but losing a good game isn't all that bad. Still though, consistently losing can really suck.

As for the shit talk/teasing between HoNGAF. Sometimes you guys go overboard with it/the whining and it gets annoying (I probably do it too, I know I complain a lot).

[quote="Sanjay from the Yurops]When I make a mistake I will always admit it. I only get pissed off when people make unwarranted backhanded insults during a game when a game is not going well and look for escape goats. Just stay quite for awhile and cool off. I mean who the hell wants a Bkid vs Ensoe E-PENIS WARS on mumble.[/quote]
I pretty much agree with Sanjay's stance on this
 

bzm

Member
Guesong said:
I can understand the feeling if that is the case, though it also means his anger would be toward himself and his pride, not necesarily HoNGAF's fault.

I mean, by picking Witch Slayer you kind of have to shut your pride down for the game, realize most of the big plays will be done by others, that your GPM will be horrid and your items even more horrid, but that in the end, if your team wins, despite you not having a big score, you will have contributed elsewise and your team thank you for it.

It's like me and my TMM matches with gaffers yesterday. Picking Monarch and Plague, I'm not looking for kills nor for GPM (fuck was it depressing when I was at 50 GPM for a good while), le but I was enabling Anbokr to farm on his Sand Wraith and eventually this won us the game. Stats will never show this. Nobody thanked me. But we won the game, and I know I helped in that, and I had fun.

Overnuke someone all you will if you are playing a carry, but always stay within your role for the good of the team.
lol
oh wait youre serious
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Tomat

Wanna hear a good joke? Waste your time helping me! LOL!
bzm said:
lol
oh wait youre serious
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I was hoping we could actually have a serious discussion for a day instead of poking fun at stupid shit for once.
 

delirium

Member
I think when he means big plays, he means the glory (aka all the last hits on the kills, gold to buy sweet sweet items, and other shit).
 

Guesong

Member
delirium said:
I think when he means big plays, he means the glory (aka all the last hits on the kills, gold to buy sweet sweet items, and other shit).

Thank you delirium.

There bzm, replace big plays by glory, I did not express myself properly. Do you now have anything to add to the discussion?
 
MrMister: Here is my attempt to give you a real talk; no trolling, or anything, take it however you want (will only do this once).

First of all, you are bad. Your skill level is no where near an average 1600 player. I just want to make this clear right off the bat. On top of that, you wish to participate in every single IH/IHL possible. Finally, you have a major attitude issue.

It is OK to make mistakes. We do it all the time, but, like Insured said, you take criticisms to new extreme. Kagete, for example, make mistakes every single game, but he always acknowledges his own mistakes and attempts to make up for it later. Of course, kagete is an extreme / rare case, but similar anology can be found within the Hongaf community. Although you are bad, you are definitely not the the worse, yet no one else seems to share your on-going experience, so really, you shouldn't blame it on the community.

My advice to you is to keep playing (and not that midwar bullshit), improve yourself. Try to look at the positive perspective of things. The only reason why the community point out your mistakes is because they care about you, and wants you to improve. From time to time, we all experience frustration, just take a break and move on.

edit: never ever join a game to spam concede votes. That is probably the worse attitude a player can have in a TEAM game; sometime it is the effort that counts.
 

Guesong

Member
Wow.

A serious albeit friendly post by Puppet.

You should do those more often, it's always appreciated to have a good player's input on any given matter. ;)
 

Meteorain

Member
Atleast from GAF you can expect some explanation about something if shit has gone wrong. Normally the community will just send a barrage of "you suck" your way.
 
If you take the game too seriously, remember that it's a game. If you're not having fun, stop playing.

EDIT: sometimes the salt can be excessive since some of us know each other better than just online buddies, but I'm sure it's friendly banter. At least there aren't profanity-laced tirades between strangers.
 

Procarbine

Forever Platinum
So Mr, first off you're not the scape goat for this community, Sanjay is. <3 Sanjay

Before you improve anything else, you need to improve your attitude, and I can relate to this because I'm in the same boat. I've played pretty abysmally lately and I've been pretty defeatist about it, but I'm trying to grind through it, and you need to as well. Tossing up concede votes in an IHL game as soon as you're "not having fun" is not the way to contribute to your team. Figure out the ways you can win, even the most unlikely, weigh the options with your team and pursue one. Apologize for your mistakes and move on. Just like playing a sport, having a short memory for your mistakes during the game will do you loads of good. Watch replays and and analyze your errors/fix them after the game.

With regard to playing support and not getting the "glory", well played support is devastating and always noticeable. See kag on anything, thor on magmus, etc. You need to understand that you're not supposed to get farm and get items, you need to ward, roam, and control space. Embrace your role in the game and go with it. Support wins games just as often as carries do.
 

delirium

Member
Sebulon3k said:
I'm happy that HoN is going to incorporate this.
Yeah, its probably the feature I want the most. From the leaks, its coming out pretty soon (less than a month away, probably before Dota 2 open beta).
 
Squire Felix said:
Not to be a dick, but Witch Slayers stun is targetable.

I actually find it easier to target the ground. Trying to click a moving target can be iffy if there are allied units around. Ironically, there have been many times where I've missed a Magmus stun because I targeted a unit.
 

Neki

Member
Lone_Prodigy said:
I actually find it easier to target the ground. Trying to click a moving target can be iffy if there are allied units around. Ironically, there have been many times where I've missed a Magmus stun because I targeted a unit.
magmus stun isn't targettable though, is it?
 
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