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Heroes of the Storm |OT3| Chromiehounds
- Thread starter Nirolak
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not relative to every hero, but compared to every other ranged auto attacker though.
that's probably just an issue with every other ranged auto attacker being booty garbage.
It def is the role that has more hot trash choices than most, but i think it's the most populated too? I dunno if we are counting mages or genji or specialized stuff like tracer, but i think of them all as falling under the umbrella of ranged dmg. W/o the armor stuff valla and gmane are prob still situated top 3 for having access to sustained and burst dps, but the armor system exacerbates their power a bit in the draft. But imo their power pulls more from flexibility than being strictly good via a really strong ability or having way stronger numbers. You can build superior comps not using either hero, but it'll usually be more synergy dependant than drafts that include gralla, meaning it can get fucked up if you didnt draft proper. I dont think youll lose too much harder if they have one of those heroes and you dont, but the onus will be on your team to draft something that makes sense in response.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
when the enemy team just lets you walk onto the core only sending back genji as Artanis 30 minutes into the game.
How is genji + aba ever supposed to kill me Artanis is nigh unkillable at that stage in a 1v1 and can just hit the core to "heal" up.
How is genji + aba ever supposed to kill me Artanis is nigh unkillable at that stage in a 1v1 and can just hit the core to "heal" up.
hmm. I'm not counting tracer, genji, or mages. I was thinking more along the lines of heroes that would fit into a typical league style ADC. Raynor, Zuljin, Cassia, Lunara, Falstad and also kind of Sylvanas maybe hammer.
I guess really only raynor and ZJ are "bad" and the rest are either decent or comp dependent.
I wonder if these ZJ changes can do anything for competitive. Like he'll have to be really good to get picked over valla/greymane
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
he already moved to canada.
I really have no gauge on his skill level relative to HGC NA players. Do you think he will find a home before spring split?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
no idea but it looks like tryouts already started or are about to. Lots of free agent calls on twitter over the last couple days specifically asking for HGC teams.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I'm trying to git gud at Samuro right now, why are his CDs so long? He has an 18 seconds CD an 8 second one and a 15 second one and you're incentivized to stack at least 2 of those.
The one "low" CD he has is also pretty boring, just lets him stack his trait.
The one "low" CD he has is also pretty boring, just lets him stack his trait.
cus he has no mana. so if they were lower CDs (and they used to be i think) it was kind of bullshit.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
you're right used to be 16/8/12 Q/W/E. No mana heroes are pretty common these days and the same logic isn't applied to them.
Afaik jschritte should be on par w/ some na assassin players and prob the best player on the br team he was on, i dunno if ppl will be chomping at the bit to pick him up. His real value looks to be his tenacity and hard work, but i dunno how improvable he is as a player. He is na hgc level for sure though. But i dunno about situations where he'll replace another na assassin player
Also ive only ever seen him play valla but that is prob just cause of draft
Also ive only ever seen him play valla but that is prob just cause of draft
Wasn't Samuro a hero that was once classified as "The only winning move is not to play"? Was he recently buffed or something ?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
He found a niche on BoE and is a great jungler otherwise.
He also has the second highest winrate in the game among us plebs.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
stormspy also has Samuro quite high in QM.
Samuro has been bugged for awhile. his mirror image AI is perpetually broken/unbroken. so I don't even try him anymore.
and the reason he was OP before was the CD and health on his Mirror images used to let him just spam and send them out after heroes and the resources it took for the enemy to kill the illusions was too expensive. They've since nerfed the mirror image damage and hp and cooldown as well.
and the reason he was OP before was the CD and health on his Mirror images used to let him just spam and send them out after heroes and the resources it took for the enemy to kill the illusions was too expensive. They've since nerfed the mirror image damage and hp and cooldown as well.
Hotdoggies is still reliable for winrates on heroes. It's the largest database we have and it's constantly gaining more info.
It may not be what it once was for personal MMR, but I don't think you need to asterisk it's overall winrates out of several thousand games compiled. It hasn't fallen off that far yet.
Orochinagis
Member
Nazeebo, carrying me out of silver 4
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
gaddamn the rate at which samuro caps mercs is frightening all while taking almost no damage if done right.
scoobs
Member
Theres a reason hes always a top win rate hero. Merc god, unkillable.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I was playing on mines and just circled through all camps while the other team went to the mines and then I burned down their giant.
Had 2 keeps down pretty early, sappers CD has to be raised by at least a minute.
Had 2 keeps down pretty early, sappers CD has to be raised by at least a minute.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I know that feel, split push hammers too.
Wait you actually win those games sometimes?
The good thing about Hammer is that I never see her, thankfully. Sylvanas is like in the top 10 of the most popular heroes.
Rarely, but to be fair, they had a pretty shitty comp with Medivh, Gaz, BW, Li-Ming, KTZ.
I just kept denying them seeds with nuke-toads and walls, and I went into every plant to make sure the siege damage was going in the right places.
scoobs
Member
Chromie, aka your favorite hero?
scoobs
Member
One of us, one of us, one of us
jaundicejuice
Member
Nova with Pinning Shot and Precision Strike can delete a Chromie before she can use Bye-Bye. Chromie can't get out of the AoE quick enough because of the slow and Precision Strike is barely faster than the quick-hearth.
Also maybe don't queue as 3 stealthies and maybe the match-making won't hard counter you with vision.
Also maybe don't queue as 3 stealthies and maybe the match-making won't hard counter you with vision.
I'd gladly give up Genji for Chromie to go. I support this message.
Why
scoobs
Member
To what end? Guaranteeing death for the Zeratul?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
and you're complaining about chromie and genji
2-3 people executing someone vs 1 of those...?