Congratulations you've hipstered your esports fandom...sort of. I do the same with sports over here and certain traditional winning/big teams. In esports, at least for HOTS, I (personally) don't think there's enough history to be too against anyone other than MVP Black who got fellated forever.
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Congratulations you've hipstered your esports fandom...sort of. I do the same with sports over here and certain traditional winning/big teams. In esports, at least for HOTS, I (personally) don't think there's enough history to be too against anyone other than MVP Black who got fellated forever.
I think it's pretty reasonable to be against any of the OG c9 bubbas at this point.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
idk I'm already shopping for flats in a more reasonable country.
fnatic, dig, estar and mvp are the longest standing rosters and orgs, as well as the rosters of tempest, l5 and team liquid. At this point these are almost as old as professional hots really is.
Aren't you in Canada?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Yikes, my condolescence.
His plot to gay marry me for my green card was not very well thought out!
LOL
WonderRade
Member
my biggest wish is for roll 20 to not totally flop and fall on their faces. they can lose to dig, just pleeaasseeeeeee dont get rekt by tempest.
my wife and I will adopt any of you when you get disowned by your families
my wife and I will adopt any of you when you get disowned by your families
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
My mom actually asked me not to leave the church in case my sister needs me to be her kid's godfather.
....don't you get someone unrelated to the family for that?
Ronabo
Member
Yeah I forgot about that. I did get Ana after rerolling a box. Which was nice.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Not around our parts of the world.
scoobs
Member
Tom DeLonge? Fuck if I know, dude went crazy and quit the band a second time so I wrote him off and haven't followed his social media for a couple years. Apparently he's building flying saucers? He's a nutjob, its whatever.
Orochinagis
Member
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I mean it's not like Blizzcon is ever really worth it unless you're there to network.
No? The horse and tiger are 3.
scoobs
Member
I wouldnt know, never buy that ticket. All I remember are the kodo thing and the cat and Ive only ever seen purple tints.
Bakery really doesn't have a hairdo at the moment or ever from what I recall. He's just kind of got the mop on top that he doesn't let get full Beatles but it's still Beatles enough.
On the subject of hair, if I'm Khroen I'm still righteous af GFE let me bet my badass afro, lose it, and then kicked me like two weeks later. Talk about getting rekt.
On the subject of hair, if I'm Khroen I'm still righteous af GFE let me bet my badass afro, lose it, and then kicked me like two weeks later. Talk about getting rekt.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Eh Khroen gambled his hair away.
He gambled it sure but considering how prideful of it he was that also indicates he was all-in for that team...and then they shanked him. Pretty shitty. And it didn't help em a bit.
As for the Castor clone thing, yeah I can see that for sure. I forget which one he looks most like but it's there.
As for the Castor clone thing, yeah I can see that for sure. I forget which one he looks most like but it's there.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I just think cutting him like that was shitty irrespective of the bet. The bet was solely on him
I don't think it was the wrong decision by GFE either. They just bungled their pickups and never figured out a structure that works for their team.
I don't think it was the wrong decision by GFE either. They just bungled their pickups and never figured out a structure that works for their team.
Isn't that the definition of the wrong decision? Or at the very least an incorrect decision because it didn't address the real problem.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Incorrect follow up, right decision
Sometimes I really do think you enjoy just arguing in a circle more than you actually believe whatever you're arguing for. 
I don't follow how it can be the correct decision.
For one, he wasn't the actual weakest link. Secondly it didn't solve the issue of leadership being a tug of war between Fan and Udall or completely vacant depending on how you want to look at it. Third, it didn't really do much to solve the positional issues between...well, everybody left who mattered (Fan and Udall, again...note how these two keep coming up in the problem section), and ultimately it allowed them to bring on two players who have shown a noted lack of ability to adapt for quite some time.
The absolute best that can be said about it was that he had to go so they could get the k1/Caff package deal, and that transaction proved to be about as inspiring as everyone expected.
He was the scapegoat and the easy piece to move is the bottom line. There was no way Fan or Udall was going, there were no viable supports to find to remove the real assdragger of the group, and it let them get the two-for.
I don't follow how it can be the correct decision.
For one, he wasn't the actual weakest link. Secondly it didn't solve the issue of leadership being a tug of war between Fan and Udall or completely vacant depending on how you want to look at it. Third, it didn't really do much to solve the positional issues between...well, everybody left who mattered (Fan and Udall, again...note how these two keep coming up in the problem section), and ultimately it allowed them to bring on two players who have shown a noted lack of ability to adapt for quite some time.
The absolute best that can be said about it was that he had to go so they could get the k1/Caff package deal, and that transaction proved to be about as inspiring as everyone expected.
He was the scapegoat and the easy piece to move is the bottom line. There was no way Fan or Udall was going, there were no viable supports to find to remove the real assdragger of the group, and it let them get the two-for.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
you are right about me but that doesn't apply here, both posts are arguments to the same point.
you are also right about Udall and Fan but even now what GFE needs isn't a ranged carry they can fill that role they need cohesion as a team. K1 worked out better than I expected he picked up the slack where Udall failed and Fan didn't try, like he played a decent Medivh the few games they tried.
Still way too much overlap between those 3 players, as a result Udall has been boxed into the role of pure flex and not in a good way.
If I had to make changes to the team I'd cut Caffeine and Udall for a tank player with shotcaller experience and a flex player. Hard to say who's gonna be a free agent but excluding blizzcon qualified teams maybe like Zuna and Srey.
you are also right about Udall and Fan but even now what GFE needs isn't a ranged carry they can fill that role they need cohesion as a team. K1 worked out better than I expected he picked up the slack where Udall failed and Fan didn't try, like he played a decent Medivh the few games they tried.
Still way too much overlap between those 3 players, as a result Udall has been boxed into the role of pure flex and not in a good way.
If I had to make changes to the team I'd cut Caffeine and Udall for a tank player with shotcaller experience and a flex player. Hard to say who's gonna be a free agent but excluding blizzcon qualified teams maybe like Zuna and Srey.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
The pool right now sucks balls, you have 3 teams going to blizzcon and the best open division team locked in their roster.
I picked those two because they are the only ones available that cover all the holes in GFE and Zuna is one of the few NA players that is relentlessly aggressive for better or worse.
I picked those two because they are the only ones available that cover all the holes in GFE and Zuna is one of the few NA players that is relentlessly aggressive for better or worse.
WonderRade
Member
is even in death locked in? Homicide for caff
Zuna is a top tier player. It's just do you get Zuna that wants to run shit and is bad at it, or do you get Zuna that just wants to win and will accept being a part of the team. Since you have no guarantee which you'll get I'm not sure he's worth gambling on.
Like you said, though, not many options. Teams really need to start bringing in folks from Open division or outside the scene at this point. Look what Kure + some changes did for Freedom, for example.
Like you said, though, not many options. Teams really need to start bringing in folks from Open division or outside the scene at this point. Look what Kure + some changes did for Freedom, for example.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I wasn't sure whether Homicide was the shotcaller.
True. I'd like to imagine Zuna actually got much better over the course of leading Naventic, I mean they kinda just decided not to suck and were amazing th last couple matches, even when they ultimately lost series.