Hillary Clinton's lead a puddle in the Sanders Sahara #deadheat #feelthebern

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docbon said:
https://mobile.twitter.com/costareports/status/634877578398973952
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Arena seats 43,000. Look up capacity of the venue instead of posting pretty pictures.

CNN details the transition to outside venue:
The event was previously planned to be held at the nearby Civic Center but was moved to the 43,000-seat Ladd-Peebles Stadium -- a venue normally home to high school football games -- to accommodate the crowd. The City of Mobile confirmed late Friday that 30,000 people attended.
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If you can be stats oriented for games, surely you can do better than that.

ErasureAcer said:
"The campaign and local officials had said they expected more than 30,000 people, but media estimates put the crowd at closer to 20,000."

Source: Newsweek

Perpetuating the 30,000k is shameless.
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Except what I posted was the police estimate, not the media estimate. Which one is more trustworthy? The media that you so easily deride when "they're not covering Bernie"?

It's like when Bernie has a 27k crowd and you like to frame it as "Almost 30k people attended Bernie's rally! OMG". Don't be disingenuous. It's unbecoming.

To be fair, I'm not posting Trump's crowd numbers as if they're important. I'm posting them because you think crowd numbers are really important, and Facebook likes are important, so I figured you would want to know exactly how important crowd numbers are.
 
Who cares if Trump gets bigger crowds than Bernie? Sticking your head in the ground and denying it doesn't change it.

The obsession over rally sizes amongst some Bernie fans as if it was some some kind of dick measuring contest has always been kind of bizarre anyway. Ron Paul fans did the same thing.
 
Ziltoidia 9 said:
A few years ago I vowed to never give money to a politician for campaign funds, but yesterday I did the minimum (3$) to Bernie's campaign. I like the idea of an everyman funded campaign and wanted to support it. It isn't much...but I guess its more of a statement.
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Don't go crazy now.
 
BertramCooper said:
I'm going to need some online poll data to back up this claim of yours.
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You respond to every post I make. There's your data.

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Guys guys guys Kevin Smith has way more Twitter followers than Bernie Sanders. Using the patent pending EraserAcer logic that means Kevin Smith the director of such works as Clerks is now the front runner to be the nominee of the Democratic Party.

I mean more people have clicked his name on a social network and as the wise and powerful EraserAcer our prophet in the name of the Bern in these trying times has explained to us that clocks on a social network are as scientific as it gets.
 
It is interesting how much the "white liberal" aspect rings true regarding Bernard's support.

Of the people I've seen posting regarding Sanders in politics, all were young, college/late high school students.

As this will be the first election I am eligible to vote in, I look forward to seeing my fellow peers views as they develop in the coming year.
 
I finally figured out why EraserAcer acts so unhinged. He was a rabid Dennis fucking Kucinich guy in 2008.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=165777

One of his beauties:
ErasureAcer said:
I make this thread to show all the Obama supporters what a fucking douche Obama is and that he should never be President when he thinks Joe Lieberman is fighting the good fight.
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This puts his prediction track record really to light:
ErasureAcer said:
Dennis Kucinich is going to win this NeoGAF!

www.dennis4president.com
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Africanus said:
It is interesting how much the "white liberal" aspect rings true regarding Bernard's support.

Of the people I've seen posting regarding Sanders in politics, all were young, college/late high school students.

As this will be the first election I am eligible to vote in, I look forward to seeing my fellow peers views as they develop in the coming year.
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Political threads are the #1 thread where I wish everyone's ages were posted under their profiles. I have a theory about age vs jaded-ness vs ideological purity vs etc.

Folks all along the spectrums of these variables have great things to contribute to the ongoing discussion.. I just like seeing if there's any sort of (apparent) connection between certain variables.
 
BertramCooper said:
Pretty sure he means that you have a long track record of supporting (in the most obnoxious fashion possible) underdog far-left candidates who don't have a snowball's chance in hell.
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Bingo. It doesn't hurt he was just as adamant about ol' Kucinich being able to win it all in 2008 as he is about Bernie this time.
 
Cheebo said:
Bingo. It doesn't hurt he was just as adamant about ol' Kucinich being able to win it all in 2008 as he is about Bernie this time.
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Based on the intelligence of his posts, I figured Erasure was a teenager or something.

But considering how long he's been on GAF, that's obviously not the case.
 
entrement said:
Anyone find Hilary a bit reclusive? Very strange.
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Right now, I suspect it's a deliberate decision on the part of her campaign. She's probably very content to let the GOP circus take the bulk of the headlines - especially with their candidates saying things on an almost-daily basis that would look absolutely unpalatable when shown to a general electorate. It's very similar to the trap that the GOP fell into in 2012; the Democratic candidate's path wasn't particularly bruising (while conversations between Berniefolk and Hillaryfolk are heated, the candidates themselves are being very cordial towards each other), while the GOP contest had a very crowded field where everyone got into a cycle of one-upsmanship in order to demonstrate to primary voters that they were each sufficiently "severe conservatives."

She's not going to make waves until it's necessary. Nobody is going to remember what happened in Spring/Fall before the primaries, with the exception of us politics geeks.
 
Africanus said:
It is interesting how much the "white liberal" aspect rings true regarding Bernard's support.

Of the people I've seen posting regarding Sanders in politics, all were young, college/late high school students.

As this will be the first election I am eligible to vote in, I look forward to seeing my fellow peers views as they develop in the coming year.
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I'm black and the age to be out of college already. I have been tuned into politics since i was a teen during the bush years, learning all i can about candidates.

But just based on who i know and my own experiences, that's not true for a majority of black and latino folks. They hear things on TV as casuals, even if that.

They aren't all that invested in learning about individual candidates or positions, or things that go on in the congress. Obama was black and a democrat and had great speeches = support. Hillary is the wife of 'the first black president' and a major face in the public consciousness for many years = support.

Bernie does have a major uphill climb considering he barely is known outside of those who, like i said, actually follow politics on a regular basis, enough to know what citizen's united is at the very least. His numbers in regards to people even knowing who he is are very low, not even counting taking votes away from Hillary.
 
GrotesqueBeauty said:
I guess the country can better afford a grotesquely distorted status quo. I mean hell, it's working already! Above all, being a modern Democrat is giving up before making a good faith effort, and accepting uneasy and counterproductive compromises because, like, reality or something. I personally look forward to the further gradual decay of anything our dilapidated memory of leading nation used to represent. Better than voting with your conscience, amirite?
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This is why I vote Green Party. Why compromise on my views?
 
I think a generation has grown up without the Cold War propaganda that brainwashed previous generations. Bernie Sanders is not a socialist but I think the stigma will fade.
 
HylianTom said:
Right now, I suspect it's a deliberate decision on the part of her campaign. She's probably very content to let the GOP circus take the bulk of the headlines - especially with their candidates saying things on an almost-daily basis that would look absolutely unpalatable when shown to a general electorate. It's very similar to the trap that the GOP fell into in 2012; the Democratic candidate's path wasn't particularly bruising (while conversations between Berniefolk and Hillaryfolk are heated, the candidates themselves are being very cordial towards each other), while the GOP contest had a very crowded field where everyone got into a cycle of one-upsmanship in order to demonstrate to primary voters that they were each sufficiently "severe conservatives."

She's not going to make waves until it's necessary. Nobody is going to remember what happened in Spring/Fall before the primaries, with the exception of us politics geeks.
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I want more campaign rallys though. She needs to energize us. The fall once this email stuff fades away needs to be full of Hillary love. Sprinkle in some Bill Clinton saxophone goodness while you are at it with a side of bite lip.
 
BertramCooper said:
Pretty sure he means that you have a long track record of supporting (in the most obnoxious fashion possible) underdog far-left candidates who don't have a snowball's chance in hell.
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That's true of Kucinich. Sanders does have a chance however. He's at 30% nationally already. Kucinich never broke 5%.
 
HylianTom said:
Political threads are the #1 thread where I wish everyone's ages were posted under their profiles. I have a theory about age vs jaded-ness vs ideological purity vs etc.

Folks all along the spectrums of these variables have great things to contribute to the ongoing discussion.. I just like seeing if there's any sort of (apparent) connection between certain variables.
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I'm 17 if you were curious. I'll make the voter cutoff by a few months given registration times.

Inuhanyou said:
I'm black and the age to be out of college already. I have been tuned into politics since i was a teen during the bush years, learning all i can about candidates.

But just based on who i know and my own experiences, that's not true for a majority of black and latino folks. They hear things on TV as casuals, even if that.

They aren't all that invested in learning about individual candidates or positions, or things that go on in the congress. Obama was black and a democrat and had great speeches = support. Hillary is the wife of 'the first black president' and a major face in the public consciousness for many years = support.

Bernie does have a major uphill climb considering he barely is known outside of those who, like i said, actually follow politics on a regular basis, enough to know what citizen's united is at the very least. His numbers in regards to people even knowing who he is are very low, not even counting taking votes away from Hillary.
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The first look into politics that I remember was the 2004 elections.

I will agree with your apathy statement. I can't say I've heard many peers outside of my friend-circle even mildly mention politics. Unfortunately, I don't believe Bernard will reach that climb given the (relatively) short amount of time he has to achieve recognition as well as push ahead of Hillary. But one never knows what can happen.

I won't be old enough to vote in the primaries however, so it's out of my hands :P
 
I really hope Biden makes a serious run at it. Even if to give Clinton a wake up call as to why her campaign is so lukewarm even with democrats right now.
 
Tubie said:
I really hope Biden makes a serious run at it. Even if to give Clinton a wake up call as to why her campaign is so lukewarm even with democrats right now.
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Her campaign isn't lukewarm with Democrats, though. Her favorability within the party is astonishingly high.
 
Not sure where to post this.

New NH poll:

There's been a big shift on the Democratic side since April as well. Bernie Sanders now leads the field in the state with 42% to 35% for Hillary Clinton, 6% for Jim Webb, 4% for Martin O'Malley, 2% for Lincoln Chafee, and 1% for Lawrence Lessig.

The main story in New Hampshire is how universally popular Sanders has become with
the Democratic electorate. 78% see him favorably to only 12% with a negative opinion that makes him easily the most popular candidate on either side with their party's voters.
Meanwhile Hillary Clinton's favorability numbers have taken a little bit of a hit- she was
at 78/10 with Democratic primary voters in April, but now she's at a 63/25 spread.
The ideological divide is actually not that stark on the Democratic side. Sanders is ahead
with 'somewhat liberal' voters (45/32), 'very liberal' ones (46/37), and moderates (40/36)
alike. And although there is certainly a gender gap Sanders is ahead with both men
(44/30) and women (41/38). But the real big divide we see is along generational lines-
Clinton is ahead 51/34 with seniors, but Sanders has a 45/29 advantage with everyone
under the age of 65.

“New Hampshire is really unique in the Democratic race,” said Dean Debnam, President
of Public Policy Polling. “We still find Hillary Clinton well ahead everywhere else, but
it’s clear at this point that there’s a real race in the Granite State.”

Public Policy Polling surveyed 436 usual Republican primary voters and 370 usual Democratic primary voters from August 21st to 24th. The margin of error for the Republicans is +/-4.7% and for the Democrats it’s +/-5.1%. 80% of participants responded via the phone, while 20% of respondents who did not have landlines conducted the survey over the internet.
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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_NH_82515.pdf

Credit to benjipwns for posting this link in the Trump thread.
 
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