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Hollywood Gets a Hand (UMD/porn)

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Hollywood Gets a Hand
The beleaguered movie studios find an unlikely ally in the PlayStation Portable—and a new format takes off.

Sept. 26, 2005 issue - If Hollywood were a golf course, studio executives would be asking for a mulligan. With the exception of a few surprise hits like "Crash" and "The Exorcism of Emily Rose," 2005 has, thus far at least, been looking ripe for a do-over. Box-office revenues and attendance figures are down significantly from last year. The DVD's once explosive growth is now slowing. The studios are split over a pair of competing high-definition-DVD formats, raising the prospect of an ugly battle that could confuse and alienate movie lovers. But amid the gloom is an unexpected ray of light: Sony's recently released PlayStation Portable. The PSP is first and foremost a mobile game device, but it also plays music and movies stored on the Sony-created Universal Media Disc format, or UMD for short. And thanks to its stunning widescreen 4.3-inch display, movies and TV shows look terrific on it. "When we saw the picture clarity, it blew us away," says Gordon Ho, senior vice president of Disney's home-video division. "It gave us great confidence, and that's why we supported it at launch."

Not everyone was as confident as Disney and Sony. By mid-April, when the two studios rolled out their first 10 UMD movies, only two other companies had expressed support: mini-major Lions Gate and anime distributor Geneon. "Prior to the PSP, there was a lot of skepticism that there was much of a market for portable movie players," says analyst Tom Adams of Adams Media Research, "mainly because it involves manufacturing discs in a whole new format." But Sony cleverly bundled a free "Spider-Man 2" UMD with the first million PSPs sold, establishing it as a superlative movie-watching device right from the start. And once news got out that two Sony releases had sold 100,000 units within two months—by comparison, it took nine months for Sony's first DVD, "Air Force One," to do the same—the other studio chiefs sat bolt upright. Soon afterward, Fox, Universal and Paramount announced their backing, followed more recently by New Line and HBO, which leaves Warner Bros. and DreamWorks the only significant holdouts. Today there are roughly 150 movies, TV compilations, concert videos and animated films available for the PSP, with more than 250 expected by the year-end, making it the most widely supported new video format since the DVD launched in 1997.

So far, the UMD video business, projected at roughly $250 million in revenues for 2005, has been nothing but positive for Hollywood. The studios are milking their catalogs by re-releasing older hits like "First Blood" and "Kill Bill" for $20, while newer titles sell for the same price as their DVD counterparts; as a result, UMD revenues in no way jeopardize total earnings. The early success of UMD videos is pushing retailers like Wal-Mart and Virgin to move them from behind glass and onto the store floor, which should boost sales even more. Studio heads love the fact that the PSP reaches a younger, mostly male audience that spends more on games than it does on movies; since even specialty retailers like GameStop carry UMD movies, their titles are on an equal footing. "It's important for the packaged-media business to migrate with people's lifestyles," says Sony home-video president Ben Feingold. His division will try to reinvent the box-office flop "Stealth" as a hybrid movie-and-game disc, pairing the full movie with three levels of the hit racing game Wipeout Pure for $40. And next year expect to see what, for better or worse, industry wags called the killer app for VHS and DVD: porn. Vivid cofounder Steven Hirsch, who's just waiting for Sony to make UMD technology available to less mainstream companies like his, says that his team may start shooting content specifically for the new format. Viewer discretion is advised.








If the UMD can take off, I wonder what that means for Blu-Ray and PS3. Some interactive HD porn would be interesting heh.
 
Amir0x said:
The UMD format success is pretty incredible that's for sure. 250 million, jesus...

But...but...the DS fans said it would fail! I think its pretty crazy how well its doing. Then again, every major retailer is fully stocked with UMD releases so they're available and good for PSP users that want something new and cheap.
 
I still call bullock on the UMD success, I don't buy it. It seems like all Sony is doing is flooding the market with buttloads of UMD movies and claiming success because gulible retailers are buying them.

I haven't actually seen any numbers sold to customers, and considering how many UMD movies are left untouched everywhere I go, they probably aren't as phenomial as Sony claims.
 
littlewig said:
I still call bullock on the UMD success, I don't buy it. It seems like all Sony is doing is flooding the market with buttloads of UMD movies and claiming success because gulible retailers are buying them.

I haven't actually seen any numbers sold to customers, and considering how many UMD movies are left untouched everywhere I go, they probably aren't as phenomial as Sony claims.

Seriously why arent you banned yet. :lol :lol
 
littlewig said:
I still call bullock on the UMD success, I don't buy it. It seems like all Sony is doing is flooding the market with buttloads of UMD movies and claiming success because gulible retailers are buying them.

I haven't actually seen any numbers sold to customers, and considering how many UMD movies are left untouched everywhere I go, they probably aren't as phenomial as Sony claims.

Yes, because we all know that retailers have found the secret to making buying overstock that no-one buys profitable. Seriously, think man, THINK. :P
 
Vennt said:
Yes, because we all know that retailers have found the secret to making buying overstock that no-one buys profitable. Seriously, think man, THINK. :P

probably, but it seems like retailers are stocking every UMD release just because they are being released, not becuase they think it will sell.

Going by the numbers in the article, if there are to be 250 UMD movies out this year and they expect revenues over $250,000,000, that would make an average of 1,000,000 in revenue for each movie release. Divide that by 20 bucks and each movie would need to sell over 50,000 units.


That's a crap lot sales, I just don't believe a userbase of only 2 million in the US will be buying that many movies, retailers are probably overstocking.

Edit - fixed my math
 
Going by the numbers in the article, if there are to be 250 UMD movies out this year and they expect revenues over $250,000,000, that would make an average of 1,000,000 in revenue for each movie release. Divide that by 20 bucks and each movie would need to sell over 50,000 units.
It was reported quite short after the US release that Resident Evil Apocalypse and House of Flaying Daggers had both done over 100,000 in sales each. Shortly after Hitch, Hellboy and XxX also passed 100,000 as of late June, IIRC.

So that math doesn't sound too far-fetched.
 
littlewig said:
I still call bullock on the UMD success, I don't buy it. It seems like all Sony is doing is flooding the market with buttloads of UMD movies and claiming success because gulible retailers are buying them.

I haven't actually seen any numbers sold to customers, and considering how many UMD movies are left untouched everywhere I go, they probably aren't as phenomial as Sony claims.

You travel the entire US? Damn man.. how do you find time to post here?
 
littlewig said:
I still call bullock on the UMD success, I don't buy it. It seems like all Sony is doing is flooding the market with buttloads of UMD movies and claiming success because gulible retailers are buying them.

I haven't actually seen any numbers sold to customers, and considering how many UMD movies are left untouched everywhere I go, they probably aren't as phenomial as Sony claims.

Then you haven't been looking.

There have been scores of threads about UMD movie sales, with only a couple being Sony shipped numbers. The numbers in this thread are from an industry tracking service based on sell through, not numbers from Sony. And that's an industry where they have damn good tracking services.

You're pathetic and desperate attempts to try and poo-poo the admittedly unexplainable UMD success just further underline your junior troll status. Not that everybody that's seen your posts don't already know that all to well.

I think it's time for you to move on to another front for your attacks. This one is a lost cause for you.
 
I believe the numbers. When you really think about it, of course it could sell that much. Frankly, if you have the money to buy the PSP, your willingness to buy a UMD for $15-$20 will be pretty high. Even if it does seem like a stupid investment when you consider that the DVD isn't going anywhere and the new HD disk format are not that far away from release, I could still understand why it sells. And of course Hollywood is going to love it. It cost them little to nothing to put movies on UMD format. Economically it makes sense. The risk is far less then the reward.
 
I think it's time for you to move on to another front for your attacks. This one is a lost cause for you.
Yeah littlewig I hear over at GameFAQs they're looking for a few good trolls to fight in Nintendo's corner. It's a hard corner to fight from, but I think you're the man to do it...

:D
 
So it seems PSP has become more of a movie player with game functionality than the other way around. I guess this explains the NA hardware sales.
 
Diffense said:
So it seems PSP has become more of a movie player with game functionality than the other way around. I guess this explains the NA hardware sales.

Does it explain why PSP game sales have passed DS game sales in less than half the time? Or does it explain why 3rd party sales for the DS are weak for all of 2005?
 
Diffense said:
So it seems PSP has become more of a movie player with game functionality than the other way around. I guess this explains the NA hardware sales.

Good god, this is the last thing I want and I think is the under lining fear of all gamers. As much as I like the multimedia capabilities of Sony and Microsoft's nex-gen consoles, I always fear that the videogames will lose interest and no longer be the center of the reason behind the hardware. To say that is the case with the PSP is to say that every gamers worst fears are knocking on their door. :(
 
sonycowboy said:
Does it explain why PSP game sales have passed DS game sales in less than half the time? Or does it explain why 3rd party sales for the DS are weak for all of 2005?

Someone bit real fast. :P

Anyway, the DS has nothing to do with it. The question is how game and movie sales/revenue compare on PSP. That was the rebuttal I was hoping for (as I don't know those numbers and haven't been following the game sales).
 
sonycowboy said:
Does it explain why PSP game sales have passed DS game sales in less than half the time? Or does it explain why 3rd party sales for the DS are weak for all of 2005?

Unfortunately it seems most people don't know that and assume otherwise. People really should check theirs facts before opening their mouths. It's always the same thing, "UMD will fail!" "Games aren't selling!" What next?
 
There's already porn on UMD in Japan, and I don't recall Sony giving their approval for that, so how come Vivid have got to wait before they can start making it?
 
The Experiment said:
But...but...the DS fans said it would fail! I think its pretty crazy how well its doing. Then again, every major retailer is fully stocked with UMD releases so they're available and good for PSP users that want something new and cheap.
actually, the DS fans said it would sell, and pointed at the success of the GBA Video lineup... the sony fans said it would fail, mainly because they wanted a game machine, not a movie player :p

the sony fans said stuff like "well, it worked on GBA cuz gba videos are kiddie, adults dont wanna watch stuff on a small 4 inch screen"...
 
HomerSimpson-Man said:
Unfortunately it seems most people don't know that and assume otherwise. People really should check theirs facts before opening their mouths. It's always the same thing, "UMD will fail!" "Games aren't selling!" What next?

You know what's next? Blu-ray will fail. It looks like most people now though see that as a lie so...

KZ come on down and shut more people up. :D
 
I think UMD's success is great. Hopefully Laptops will include a UMD drive soon, and I want a UMD player for my home.
 
The Faceless Master said:
actually, the DS fans said it would sell, and pointed at the success of the GBA Video lineup... the sony fans said it would fail, mainly because they wanted a game machine, not a movie player :p

the sony fans said stuff like "well, it worked on GBA cuz gba videos are kiddie, adults dont wanna watch stuff on a small 4 inch screen"...

Wow, Solidsnake and I must be DS fans then. Didn't know I was arguing with Sony fans back then, either.
 
I hope that the PS3 has a UMD add-on, or perhaps simply allow you to hook up your PSP to it to watch the movies.

I'll buy my favourite movies on UMD. Just today I watched Kung Fu Hustle on a flight.

But I hope it still catches on. I have a feeling that many movies will tank, simply because it doesn't appeal to the PSP demographic (which is varied...but for the most part I would say consist of veteran gamers, who may have specific tastes). I hope that when they bomb, it leads to these movie big wigs to change their mind.
 
Diffense said:
So it seems PSP has become more of a movie player with game functionality than the other way around. I guess this explains the NA hardware sales.
Actually, it would seem to be healthy combination of both. Games are selling, maintaining slightly higher than 2:1 attach rate in this first 4-5 months on the market. Approx. 4.2 million pieces of game software sold for approx. 1.9 million NA PSPs. UMD movie sales are harder to pin down, but most of the news has been positive. So far, it doesn't really seem that either kind of content is suffering at the hands of the other.
 
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the sony fans said it would fail, mainly because they wanted a game machine, not a movie player
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I know I thought it would fail. Just because I didn't think UMDs would sell at the same price as dvds. Guess I was wrong.

Guess the rule of thumb is that anything will sell as long as people want it and the price is reasonable. $20-$30 is a reasonable price for movies...period. Doesn't matter if you are duplicating what you already have. Doesn't matter if it has less features than what you already have. People like movies, the price is reasonable, people will buy it as they have the hardware and it's easy to use.

Gameboy Micro will sell for the same reason. HD Dvds and BluRay movies will sell for the same reason. Doesn't make sense to me, but whatever. Should of went to business school....more hot chicks in that major than Computer Science anyway. No wonder I'm old and bitter :p
 
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