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Hollywood Has Dismal Year at Box Office

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Ripclawe

Banned
and this was hoping on Kong being a huge blockbuster.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/14/AR2005121401297_pf.html

Hollywood Has Dismal Year at Box Office

By DAVID GERMAIN
The Associated Press
Thursday, December 15, 2005; 1:06 AM



LOS ANGELES -- A box-office jolt from the magic kingdoms of Kong, Narnia and Hogwarts will close Hollywood's year with some holiday cheer, though not enough to offset the biggest decline in movie attendance in 20 years.

Domestic revenues at movie theaters may fall below $9 billion for the first time since 2001 after averaging $9.3 billion over the last three years. Factoring in higher admission prices, the number of tickets sold is expected to finish at about 1.4 billion, the lowest since 1997.

Before Thanksgiving, attendance had been running 8 percent behind 2004's. Huge crowds for "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire," the fourth installment of the boy conjurer's adventures at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, helped to whittle that deficit down to 7.3 percent by early December, according to box-office tracker Exhibitor Relations.

Even with the last-minute surge from two other fantasy epics, "King Kong" and "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe," movie attendance likely will be down 6 percent or more for the year.

That marks the largest drop since admissions fell 12 percent in 1985.

Some studio executives and Hollywood analysts say 2005 just brought a generally weaker lineup of films. Others insist movie-goers are abandoning ship in favor of home theaters with big screens and booming sound, where fans can watch films on DVD only a few months after their theatrical release.

Driving to a multiplex, finding a parking spot, fighting for a seat and putting up with high concessions prices and other cinema hassles makes the comfort of home sound ever more appealing.

"One thing we sometimes overlook, especially people in the business, is the quality of the moviegoing experience," said Richard Roeper, a Chicago Sun-Times critic and Roger Ebert's co-host on TV's "Ebert & Roeper and the Movies."

"If someone's waiting through 20 minutes of commercials, you've got people behind you kicking your seat and talking on cell phones, do you think a lot of people might say, `You know what? I've got a great sound system, I've got a 50-inch plasma screen. I'm just going to wait three months until the DVD comes out'?"

In an Associated Press-AOL News poll last summer, 73 percent of adults said they preferred watching movies at home on DVD, videotape or pay-per-view than going to theaters. And if the 2005 lineup of films truly looked less appealing, it's no wonder so many people stayed home.

"I think it's all of the above, really. There's certainly a lot of competition for those entertainment dollars," said Rory Bruer, head of distribution for Sony, which scored an early 2005 hit with "Hitch" but delivered such flops as "XXX: State of the Union," "Stealth," "Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo" and "Rent."

"I hate to sound Pollyanna about it, but I do believe that this is an anomaly," Bruer said. "Business will bounce back and over a period of time it'll fight its way back."

While studio honchos say it's premature to predict audiences will keep dwindling, 2005 marks the third-straight year attendance has fallen and the fifth year out of the last seven that theater crowds have shrunk.

But those declines came amid a broader upswing in movie attendance since the mid 1980s, with the number of tickets sold rising from just over 1 billion in 1986 to a modern high of 1.6 billion in 2002.

"When you look back over a long period of time, you find dips that are due to content," said Jeff Goldstein, general sales manager for Warner Bros., which released the "Harry Potter" and "Batman Begins" blockbusters but also the 2005 duds "Miss Congeniality 2: Armed and Fabulous" and "House of Wax." "To have the type of growth we've had, it's not realistic for that to continue. You're going to have some good years and some bad."

This past year started well with early hits that produced a box-office upswing before a prolonged slump began in February. Most weekends since, revenues have been down compared to the corresponding period in 2004, with the downturn stretching to a modern record of 19 weekends in a row during one stretch.

Some Hollywood apologists note that 2004 had an expected $370 million infusion from "The Passion of the Christ," which lured millions of conservative Christians who ordinarily do not go to movies. Discount 2004's grosses by that amount and 2005 is right on par, they say.

On the other hand, the "Passion" bonus that padded 2004 revenues may have disguised the fact that the box-office slump actually started then and has now lingered almost two years. That would be a clearer signal that audiences could be growing tired of movie theaters _ for good.

"I think it's too early to make that call. We'll have to wait and see the quality of the product for next year," said Wayne Lewellen, head of distribution for Paramount, which scored with "War of the Worlds" and "The Longest Yard" but struck out with "The Honeymooners" and "The Bad News Bears." "At least on paper, it looks like a strong kickoff next summer."

To be sure, early summer 2006 seems to have a lot more muscle than the weak lineup that preceded "Star Wars: Episode III _ Revenge of the Sith," the season's first major hit.

Early May 2005 presented such uncharacteristically mute fare as "Kingdom of Heaven" and "Kicking & Screaming," a far cry from the popcorn flicks like "The Mummy" movies that typically open in that time frame to kick off summer.

Next May starts with Tom Cruise's "Mission: Impossible III" and "Poseidon," a remake of the disaster flick "The Poseidon Adventure," with Tom Hanks' "The Da Vinci Code," the superhero sequel "X-Men 3" and the animated tales "Cars" and "Over the Hedge" quickly following.

And with "King Kong" and "Chronicles of Narnia" likely to carry strong business over into January, the industry could be on a much better footing through the first half of 2006. Some critics have said "King Kong" could be the next "Titanic," the modern box-office champ with $600 million domestically and $1.8 billion worldwide.

"The attention devoted to box office this year has been negative, so I think it'll be a psychological boost for Hollywood to end the year on a positive note with `Kong' and `Narnia,'" said Paul Dergarabedian, president of Exhibitor Relations. "Also, the audience tends to follow the money, so if these movies really do well, they tend to get excited and want to go back to the theater."
 

Duderz

Banned
Not surprised. Aside from Batman Begins, I didn't go see a lot of movies a second or third time.

What's this technology that Spielberg says will reinvigorate the industry? Or is that just huff and puff?
 
Duderz said:
Not surprised. Aside from Batman Begins, I didn't go see a lot of movies a second or third time.

What's this technology that Spielberg says will reinvigorate the industry? Or is that just huff and puff?

The holodeck you mean?
 
Spielberg, Cameron, Lucas, Rodriguez and a few others are pushing for 3D technology, although I think what Spielberg has in mind are actual 3D displays.

And Ebert is absolutely right about the theater going experience. Theater owners have gotten lazy and have allowed way too many commercials to extend the amount of time people have to sit in a theater.

Yeah King Kong at 3+ hours may be tough for people to stomach, but the 15-20 minutes of commercials on top of that just makes it that much worse.
 

robochimp

Member
With the cost of gas and the 200 dollar heating bill I just got, I'm really not even thinking about going and spending 30 dollars for a night out at the movies
 

Duderz

Banned
Yeah, that must be it. When is that supposed to be introduced, and how is it going to work?

Anyway, I pretty much hate going to movies because so many theaters are run down, expensive, and time-consuming to get to. The last time I had a memorable movie going experience was for Batman Begins, and before that, well...

Cut down on the "buy movie tickets online" commercials. Cut down the prices. Clean up the place.

But in the end too, so many people are so discourteous during the movie that that makes the experience jarring as well, and no theater can really stop that.
 

calder

Member
For me, the lousy movie going experience is not just the commercials (way too many now no doubt) but the shitty behaviour of others. When I was a kid I vividly remember some older kids/teenagers in a movie talking and the manager kicked them all out in a minute flat. Nowadays (god I sound old) you can have a shouting match on your cell phone while standing up and waving your arms and the usher will hustle past and pretend he doesn't see.

It's a shame, because so much of the theatre going experience is so much better now (screens, sound, food, seats especially).
 
Truth is though for me, 2005 was a pretty good year at the movies, better than 2003 or 2004.

I'll take Batman Begins over any superhero movie of the past five years (sorry Spidey). For this franchise to make such a huge turnaround from Batman & Robin and Batman Forever ... that's no small feat.

Star Wars: Episode III, while no Empire Strikes Back to be sure, was markedly better than Ep. I or II.

Sin City was cool. Much better than the mess that was "Once Upon A Time In Mexico".

March of the Penguins was fantastic IMO, and played without the controversey of PoTC or F9/11.

War of the Worlds ... not a great film, but entertaining and solid I would say. Definitely a lot of fun Spielbergian set pieces and some incredible shots.

King Kong, despite being 20-25 minutes too long, is still a lot better than a lot of wannabe blockbusters.

I'll give you that Shrek 2 was probably more enjoyable than Chicken Little or Madagascar.
 
Duderz said:
Yeah, that must be it. When is that supposed to be introduced, and how is it going to work?

Chicken Little 3D FTW?


Im still trying to watch Harry Potter! Damn Imax's (yes pural) in Boston are too busy showing shark movies to screen the damn thing. The other ones in MA are too far away. I almost got to see it last month, but it was sold out (San Fransisco)
 

Error

Jealous of the Glory that is Johnny Depp
I'm not surprised why hollywood is having such a bad time at the box office I mean take for example King Kong I went yesterday to see it.

1) the movie was supposed to start at 8pm...but no, almost 45 minutes of ads, I mean seriously that's way too much the movie end up starting at 8:45 or 8:50 something like that.

2) the behavior of the other people, I mean fuking ballons flying in front of the screen why the hell do they even allow balloons inside the theater? plus kids crying.

seriously having a good sound system and a good HDTV in your house with no one bothering the shit out of you plus no ads, plus you can pause the movie if you want to go to the bathroom... no wonder the DVD market is more important than the box office market to hollywood now. a lot people now wait for the movie to come out on DVD so they can enjoy it better and well who can blame them?
 
Domestic revenues at movie theaters may fall below $9 billion for the first time since 2001 after averaging $9.3 billion over the last three years. Factoring in higher admission prices, the number of tickets sold is expected to finish at about 1.4 billion, the lowest since 1997.

Bingo.
 
I usually don't have problems with people during movies, but I almost tend to go exclusively to the late shows (after 9, usually closer to 10-10:30 PM), so you get an older crowd.

But even when I did go to see Harry Potter (the one that came out in summer 2004), there was hardly a peep from a theater packed full of kids.

But then again I'm usually in between Canada and Los Angeles, so I have no idea what the conditions might be like elsewhere in the U.S.

The problem I have with theaters is a lot of the theater owners don't have a clue as to how to set their visual/audio settings. There's a theater here that was built in 2000 and has top-of-the-line everything but the sound is absolute shit because they likely have a 16-year-old who's in charge of it.
 

J2 Cool

Member
Amazing, but King Kong only made 14 million on Friday. Sure, it opened Wednesday, but you had to expect a bigger opening than 45-50 million. Narnia beat that easy. I'm sure it will have legs though. the better blockbusters this year started slow and had some good legs, in Batman Begins and Kong. Narnia should drop quick. But I agree, it's definitely a slow box office year. Just look at years back when X2 is pushing 85 million on it's opening weekend, Spidey's setting records, Matrix Reloaded's raking it in opening weekend, and Star Wars is making it's money. Not to mention Pixar, who didn't have their annual November release.

There's a lot less blockbusters these days, and the ones that are supposed to be Blockbusters aren't quite nailing the instant appeal people want. Just compare Spider-man 1's colorful trailer, with promise of his first superhero movie, the message, the origin, the costume, the girl, the kiss, the hero and the villain. That's everything people need wrapped into a package. War of the Worlds in that respect is intimidating to people. Ridiculous robots, girl's crying, Tom Cruise has gone insane and he's our only hope.. They just gotta redirect their efforts, and get some better trailers. Batman Begins and King Kong rock, but it's no thanks to their trailers that I seen em. Had to keep the ears open. For Spider-man, you couldn't not hear about it or think it weren't a good time at the movies.

And just to show Hollywood's still got it if they want, as far as bringing in money.. Look at Episode III. Insane numbers there, and perfect promos, ads, and sponsors. Sure, it's pre-established, but there was something in the hype that people had to see what it was. They couldn't ignore it. Even Spielberg was jealous, because the man couldn't create that kind of excitement so easily. He's used too many ideas, and the well's run a little dry on the instant success ideas. Even using up all the comic book characters already. If they were smart, they wouldn't let it get released without perfecting it. It's an easy milking, but if you can establish a franchise, you get a lot more out of it. Hulk could have been huge if it were more action based. Fantastic Four could have been huge if it wasn't a cheesy suck ass FF-wannabe. And I'm sure the trend will continue with fucking up what could be awesome. If they were smart, someone would get Captain America and do with the Ultimates style visuals. At least Superman looks to be good.

And outside of comic books, well, figure it out geniuses. Hollywood's full of crybaby bitches, who desperately want money but don't feel like they need to invent.
 
Actually I think the problem is there's too many big-budget movies nowadays.

It used to be that there was like 2-3 "event" movies every summer, now its like there's a new one every week all throughout summer and then a second wave during Christmas.

You look at next summer you have ...

Superman, Pirates of the Caribbean 2, The Da Vinci Code, Mission: Impossible 3, Pixar's Cars, etc.

It's just a lot for people to keep going to see these movies when there's a new "must see" movie every week and then ask them to pay $10+ for a ticket and on top of that ask them to come back and watch the same movie more than once on top of all that.

What's really happening is Hollywood experienced a "boom" period which probably actually started at the beginning of the 1990s with Terminator 2/Jurassic Park and has extended through until the end of the Star Wars/LOTR trilogies.

Maybe the market was just long overdue for a cooling off period.

The other problem is the "new" wave of Hollywood stars like Colin Farrell, Heath Ledger, Reese Witherspoon, etc. are popular I guess, but they're no Tom Cruise, Julia Roberts, etc. Hollywood needs some new stars that can really carry a blockbuster.
 
There just hasn't been much to see this year. I was gonna see King Kong tonight but I don't feel like it anymore, it's just a remake. Look at the Oscar contenders, I have no desire to see any of those movies. Hollywood is in a drought and has been for a few years now.
 
King Kong is worth seeing, don't let the media-spun "doom n' gloom" or the "its just a remake" talk keep you from seeing it.

It's definitely one of those movies that should be seen on a big screen.
 

suaveric

Member
soundwave05 said:
Actually I think the problem is there's too many big-budget movies nowadays.

It used to be that there was like 2-3 "event" movies every summer, now its like there's a new one every week all throughout summer and then a second wave during Christmas.

You look at next summer you have ...

Superman, Pirates of the Caribbean 2, The Da Vinci Code, Mission: Impossible 3, Pixar's Cars, etc.

It's just a lot for people to keep going to see these movies when there's a new "must see" movie every week and then ask them to pay $10+ for a ticket and on top of that ask them to come back and watch the same movie more than once on top of all that.

What's really happening is Hollywood experienced a "boom" period which probably actually started at the beginning of the 1990s with Terminator 2/Jurassic Park and has extended through until the end of the Star Wars/LOTR trilogies.

Maybe the market was just long overdue for a cooling off period.

The other problem is the "new" wave of Hollywood stars like Colin Farrell, Heath Ledger, Reese Witherspoon, etc. are popular I guess, but they're no Tom Cruise, Julia Roberts, etc. Hollywood needs some new stars that can really carry a blockbuster.


QFT

Just look at next May's release schedule:
May 5 - MI3
May 12 - Poseidon
May 19 - Da Vinci Code, Over the Hedge
May 26 - Xmen 3

There are going to be some serious casualties there (i'm looking at you, Poseidon)
 

Phranky

Banned
I pay £13.99 a month for a cineworld Unlimited card, which allows me to go and see any number of movies per month. I really abuse it; in the past 3 months I must've gone to see literally 30 movies, and you can make the money back by seeing 3 per month. They must lose money from it...

EDIT: If you think $10 a ticket is bad, trying going to see a movie in Leicester Square in London. I've only gone once, but the VUE cinema (which hosts movie premieres) asks for over £11 at peak time.
 
Phranky said:
I pay £13.99 a month for a cineworld Unlimited card, which allows me to go and see any number of movies per month. I really abuse it; in the past 3 months I must've gone to see literally 30 movies, and you can make the money back by seeing 3 movies per month. They must lose money from it...

I doubt it. Theatres make the majority of their profits from concessions. Also, such a program as this one guarantees they'll at least get 13.99 a month, even if there's nothing really worth seeing. It's kind of like Netflix or whatever...you pay a monthly fee which would appear cheaper than normally going to a video store, but then you realize you're paying that same amount every month.

It saves frequent movie-goers a fair bit of money, but again, the theatres making that up in concessions and/or "wasted" members. Kind of like how gyms make their money on people that don't work out.
 

Ash Housewares

The Mountain Jew
Phranky said:
I pay £13.99 a month for a cineworld Unlimited card, which allows me to go and see any number of movies per month. I really abuse it; in the past 3 months I must've gone to see literally 30 movies, and you can make the money back by seeing 3 movies per month. They must lose money from it...

I don't see how they could lose money except to have you in a sold out show and then they lose the price of admission for one person, tragic yet unlikely
 

littlewig

Banned
The only way they would be losing money is if you would have gone to see those money despite having the card.

It's like I always say to my mom when she buys something on sale.

Mom: "Look, I pot this flower pot 50% off, I saved 10 bucks!"
Me: "Were you going to buy it if it wasn't on sales?"
Mom: "No..."
Me: "Then you spent 10 bucks, you didn't save shit!"
 
A monthly membership card may not be a bad idea for theaters (who rely on concession sales), although I doubt movie studios would be thrilled by it.

It kinda eliminates the whole "well movie X looks OK, but I don't know if I want to spend $10 on it" type thing.
 
littlewig said:
The only way they would losing money is if you would have gone to see those money despite having the card.

It's like I always say to my mom when she buys something on sale.

Mom: "Look, I pot this flower pot 50% off, I saved 10 bucks!"
Me: "Where you going to buy it if it wasn't on sales?"
Mom: "No..."
Me: "Then you spent 10 bucks, you didn't save shit!"

You actually talk to your mom like that? :lol
 
soundwave05 said:
A monthly membership card may not be a bad idea for theaters (who rely on concession sales), although I doubt movie studios would be thrilled by it.

It kinda eliminates the whole "well movie X looks OK, but I don't know if I want to spend $10 on it" type thing.

And that's why the movie stuidios wouldn't like it? Eliminating a reason to NOT watch a movie seems like a good idea to me.
 

Guileless

Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
Seriously, if it weren't for Batman Begins....I mean, what's left? I liked Rent but I realize I'm a minority there (no pun intended). I didn't see War of the Worlds, Dukes of Hazzard was offensively bad, FF was dumbed-down piffle that I couldn't remember 5 minutes after watching it. The ads for Stealth and XXX2 literally made me laugh out loud they were so bad.

I hope this is just a down cycle for Hollywood. I used to like going to the movies.
 

Deg

Banned
There were plenty good movies this year but i think the bockbusters get too much attention and it seems most of Hollywood banks too much on them. I only liked about 3 major movies with the rest being lesser advertised movies.
 

Ash Housewares

The Mountain Jew
only good movie I saw in theatres was Batman I believe

it was 95% comic book movies and remakes so why bother with theatres anymore, seen it all
 
Forgotten Ancient said:
And that's why the movie stuidios wouldn't like it? Eliminating a reason to NOT watch a movie seems like a good idea to me.

The problem with that is movie studios rely on individual ticket sales for their revune, specifically a high ratio of the first week-2 week box office.

So by eliminating ticket sales ... I dunno if movie studios would be willing to accept the card scenario. I guess it depends.
 

sprsk

force push the doodoo rock
i did not go out to the movies this year. and it had nothing to do with downloading movies.
 

littlewig

Banned
I've seen atleast one movie a month this year, but I didn't go to see that as many this year as I did before.

I did enjoy 40 year old Virgin though. :lol
 

Phranky

Banned
I love living in London... I have an Oyster card, so my travel costs are already paid for, and that includes buses, trams, DLR, and the infamous tube. So, I can just get on the underground and head off to Leicester Square/Piccadilly Circus/Covent Garden (they're all right next to each other) and straight to the cinema using my cineworld unlimited card, grabbing a beer in the bar (yeah...) and sitting back to watch a movie.

It doesn't really have much to do with this thread, but it just occurred to me how lucky I am to live in a city that allows me to do that. Its a baseless opinion because I haven't been to every city on the face of the planet, but London really has to be the best city on earth.

Anyway, back to the thread.

I'm in two minds about the slump in the box office. On one hand, I don't care so much about it, because I can just sit back and watch 3 movies in one day, drinking beer and doing bugger all. So why should I care? Its their problem. On the other hand, my job is tied to the film and tv industry (which I said rather arrogantly in another thread), so a big slump in the box office year on year is going to drive the industry to different genres and... other crap.

*becomes distracted by naked women on TV*

I lost my train of thought... uh... So what if there's a box office slump year on year, Hollywood will just be forced to try something new, just as they had to when TV and VCRs were introduced. Its not as if they're all going to just board up the windows and quit, they're still going to pump out movies, and they're still going to gain more of a profit from the bigger DVD market as long as suckers like me keep on buying them for the "cool" extras. Its the pirated dvd market thats the true enemy of the movie industry.
 

isamu

OMFG HOLY MOTHER OF MARY IN HEAVEN I CANT BELIEVE IT WTF WHERE ARE MY SEDATIVES AAAAHHH
Home front projectors and 5.1 DD sound systems for the win.
 

Mihail

Banned
Yes! Years of crappy popcorn movies are finally starting to catch up to them. Let's hope the games industry is next. It's time for a wakeup call for these quick buck, shoverware pushers.
 

Rob

Member
I truly don't get it. To me, this was a fantastic year for movies!!

Star Wars: Episode 3
Sin City
Batman Begins
War of the Worlds
The History of Violence
The 40 Year Old Virgin
King Kong
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
The Corpse Bride
The Chronicles of Narnia
Madagascar
Walk the Line
The Devil's Rejects
The Posession of Emily Rose
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
Land of the Dead

I loved ALL of these movies and saw several of them more than once. Personally I thought this has been a banner year for movies in terms of quality.
 

Eric Hall

Member
I saw WAY more movies in theaters this year, than last year.

In fact, i'd go as far to say that 2004 had quite a bit more bad movies than 2005. Ok, both years had some horrible movies, but 2005 has had more great movies, than 2004
 

conker

Banned
calder said:
For me, the lousy movie going experience is not just the commercials (way too many now no doubt) but the shitty behaviour of others. When I was a kid I vividly remember some older kids/teenagers in a movie talking and the manager kicked them all out in a minute flat. Nowadays (god I sound old) you can have a shouting match on your cell phone while standing up and waving your arms and the usher will hustle past and pretend he doesn't see.

It's a shame, because so much of the theatre going experience is so much better now (screens, sound, food, seats especially).

You have USHERS?!

With the shit hollywood puts out, I am GLAD they're not doing as well as they used to be.

I'd rather have good movies, but when I see the same shit over and over again, I just have to give a big fuck you to the prospect of buying a movie ticket.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
"One thing we sometimes overlook, especially people in the business, is the quality of the moviegoing experience," said Richard Roeper, a Chicago Sun-Times critic and Roger Ebert's co-host on TV's "Ebert & Roeper and the Movies."

"If someone's waiting through 20 minutes of commercials, you've got people behind you kicking your seat and talking on cell phones, do you think a lot of people might say, `You know what? I've got a great sound system, I've got a 50-inch plasma screen. I'm just going to wait three months until the DVD comes out'?"

In an Associated Press-AOL News poll last summer, 73 percent of adults said they preferred watching movies at home on DVD, videotape or pay-per-view than going to theaters. And if the 2005 lineup of films truly looked less appealing, it's no wonder so many people stayed home.

Really, I think that sums up a lot of it. The movie going experience is getting worse, it's getting more expensive, and at the same time higher quality experiences at home are coming down in price. That, and the quality of movies seems to be going down.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
I think it's also important to note that the ease of getting ahold of films, particularly independent and foreign ones, on DVD is removing some people from theaters.
 

ronito

Member
Hollywood needs to change with the times. The box office went through a slump in the early to mid 50s because people were watching so much TV. Their brilliant answer was Ben Hur, Sparticus and huge hollywood epics that couldn't be reproduced by smaller TV budgets.

I think we're in a similar situation. Why am I going to stand in line pay $20 for tickets, $9 for popcorn to sit in a smelly theatre next to rude people and watch one movie? When I can pay $19 to netflix and watch a ton of movies on my surround sound system in my own house?

Honestly, I'll only go to watch movies like EpIII, Harry Pottter, LotR, and King Kong in the theatre, because these deliver such a scale that they have to be seen in a theatre to be appreciated. Everything else I can just wait a few months and get a better experience at home. The industry needs to change.
 

Shinobi

Member
Yeah, I was gonna quote that part of the article. Seriously, when you've plunked down 10 grand for the high def TV, sound system and all the trimmings, what's the incentive for you to then leave all that shit at home unattended to sit in a theatre where the crowd could be a distraction, and you get raped for cheap food (unless you've got brains and sneak the food in)?

Really, Hollywood's their own worst enemy...movies used to take a year or more to hit the home market. Now they're hitting DVD shelves in three to six months. With that short a wait, you might as well wait to at least rent it and enjoy it in the comfort of your own home.

The only people I feel sorry for are the theatre chains, since the quick DVD turn around is indirectly taking money out of their pockets. As for Hollywood, they're making nice coin anyway...no need to hold any tag days for them.
 

DjangoReinhardt

Thinks he should have been the one to kill Batman's parents.
Shinobi said:
The only people I feel sorry for are the theatre chains, since the quick DVD turn around is indirectly taking money out of their pockets. As for Hollywood, they're making nice coin anyway...no need to hold any tag days for them.

Theatre chains around here introduced pre-show commercials and started raising prices eight years ago. Naturally, this was not accompanied by improvements in the quality of the experience or content. And I'm pretty sure that inflation in this country hasn't been 40% since 1998.

I hope the chains rot right along with Hollywood.
 

Shinobi

Member
DjangoReinhardt said:
Theatre chains around here introduced pre-show commercials and started raising prices eight years ago. Naturally, this was not accompanied by improvements in the quality of the experience or content. And I'm pretty sure that inflation in this country hasn't been 40% since 1998.

I hope the chains rot right along with Hollywood.

Well when you put it that way, fuck them too. :lol
 

kevm3

Member
the price of movies going up + the quality of movies going down = OMG piracy is killing the industry!!! Ehhh, this is the rationale that the music industry has adopted... We'll see if it'll be true for movies as well.

Ehhh, I can't think of very many movies released recently that I want to see... but my main deterrent is the $8 entrance fee. A movie has to be outstanding for me to pay that much for a one time viewing experience. I really feel sorry for those of you who have to pay $10 or more.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
Deg said:
There were plenty good movies this year but i think the bockbusters get too much attention and it seems most of Hollywood banks too much on them. I only liked about 3 major movies with the rest being lesser advertised movies.

DING DING DING.
 
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