Hollywood Reporter: Edgar Wright just left Ant-Man

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At least you can own up to being a blind fanboy. Takes courage.
Hm? Oh, wording. Let me put it this way- whoever is at fault, i don't reallllllly care. At the end of the day though, I don't actually have an interest in Ant-Man, but i'm very interested in whatever Wright makes next.
 
the thing where people are hyperdefensive of massive conglomerates is sad to me. as if a multi-billion dollar company needs you to blindly defend it from message board posters. if your response to complaints about a goddamn unstoppable corporate behemoth is the barely-literate "YOURE A HATER" i'm not convinced you're even a conscious human. get woke

or maybe people respect the company that gave 150 million dollars to fucking James Gunn enough to give em the benefit of the doubt

people defend what people like, regardless of how "big" or how much they "need it"


regardless, bashing anyone at this point is dumb. Both of "them" (wright and marvel) clearly intended and tried for this to happen for almost a decade.
 
You make it seem like Joss Whedon, Gunn, Russo Bros, Alan Taylor, and Shane Black had huge blockbuster hits before being hired for Marvel movies. Hell even Jon Favreau had a film that bombed completely (Zathura) before being hired for Iron Man. I don't see why Wright's box office credentials would have anything to do with this.

Because they are equally poor yet he's been dragging his feet for close to a decade.
 
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A FAMILIAR STORY: BRAVERY LEADS TO SUCCESS. SUCCESS LEADS TO FEAR OF LOSING SUCCESS. FEAR LEADS TO SAFE, HOMOGENOUS THINKING.

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I love Pym he's the goddamn Scientist Supreme but man it's the truth.

oh no, im more than aware. ask any fan how many times theyve had to argue the wifeabeater thing. but its a really good analogue to wright fans as well
 
the thing where people are hyperdefensive of massive conglomerates is sad to me. as if a multi-billion dollar company needs you to blindly defend it from message board posters. if your response to complaints about a goddamn unstoppable corporate behemoth is the barely-literate "YOURE A HATER" i'm not convinced you're even a conscious human. get woke

I lost about 80% of my interest in the mcu after this, but who knows. That they killed off one of their most anticipated projects blows, and that a film it seemed Wright/Cornish were super passionate about does too. And it would be cool if Marvel would allow one-off films, rather than force every entry to be intricately intertwined. So while this news is terrible, I'm still mildly hopeful. Phase 2 has been a huge improvement over the mostly-shitty Phase 1, with IM3's personal touches especially. Cap 2 was some nuanced fun, and Thor 2 was some alright batshit mania. if Guardians has Gunn's weirdness succeed on a large scale, then Ultron and phase 3 have hope. If Guardians is good but bombs at the BO then I'm sure the MCU will go to shit, they'll be afraid to take further risks and the franchise will become as worthless as ASM or as mediocre as X-men


lol genre doesn't define the singularity of a vision. tarantino makes heist movies. ford made westerns. preminger made thrillers. what a silly thought

Because they are and there arguments make no sense given that

Russos had creative freedom
Gunn has had creative freedom
Wright had 8 years to write the script
 
it's really not that hard to see the development that lead to this

Ant-Man work started before Iron Man released. Iron Man shaped the Marvel Universe. They have an overall vision now that's entirely connected and it most likely changed some of their intentions with these properties and that eventually didnt fit Wright's vision.

Of course, it's all just guessing but it doesnt seem that far fetched.

It also seems like something that could've been noticed by all parties 2 years ago, not 1 month before shooting starts. Iron Man shaped the MCU in 2008, not yesterday.
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There's something else to this story, but sure, Marvel's Umbrella is evil and that's all what happened. We all know.
 
The official release said the split was 'due to differences in their vision of the film', what more do you need?

not saying it can't boil down to that but dude that's the cookie cutter press release statement

give it a few years and we'll learn how it went down
 
It also seems like something that could've been noticed by all parties 2 years ago, not 1 month before shooting starts. Iron Man shaped the MCU in 2008, not yesterday.
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im sure they were just "delaying it" cause they didnt wanna hurt anyone's feelings or anything, not still trying to make it work.

c'mon dude

sorry if you're being sarcastic
 
Because they are equally poor yet he's been dragging his feet for close to a decade.
You're right. That might have very well been the reason. I'm guessing Wright might have wanted one more delay maybe to work on the story more and Marvel said no. Hopefully they hired someone good for this project.
 
Did he not finish the script? Honest question.

He finished the script but originally Wasp and Ant Man were supposed to be in Avengers. Yes they delayed the movie that long for Wright. Marvel was 100% behind Wright and the sudden departure just seems weird.

Something else happened and just using the differences as an excuse.
 
FILM CRIT HULK ‏@FilmCritHULK 53m

A FAMILIAR STORY: BRAVERY LEADS TO SUCCESS. SUCCESS LEADS TO FEAR OF LOSING SUCCESS. FEAR LEADS TO SAFE, HOMOGENOUS THINKING.

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Vaguely off-topic:

Can we ban Film Critic Hulk from GAF? Or at the very least make it a requirement that we don't just copy and paste his pseudo cinema guru shit directly? His gimmicky writing style is all kinds of durr. I can't believe he's still sticking to it all these years later.
 
Pack it up, Marvel Studios. Your universe is over.

I just can't believe this news. I'm actually red in the face right now over it. Marvel finally (apparently accidentally) hired a genius to direct what would have undoubtedly been an incredible piece of cinematic history. Then, in the final hours, they get rid of him. Why? Because he wanted to actually make a good Marvel movie for once? Can't have that, now can we?

In the past few years, Ive been watching these Marvel shits, patiently waiting for the moment when Wright graced us with his vision. I drew pictures of Ant Man and hung them up all over my room along with pictures of Edgar Wright, screen grabs of the leaked footage and photoshopped images of Edgar, Ant Man and I just "hanging out".

It really bugs me [pun intended] that this studio is under the impression that they know what makes a good comic book movie. Who do they think they are exactly? With Wright on board, they absolutely were looking at a 500M domestic return. Now, it's obvious they'll hire a "safe" director to make a "safe" movie and it'll tank, taking the whole damn studio with it.

Actually, that's probably for the best. If Edgar Wright isn't allowed to make a Marvel movie, nobody should be.

* I just told my little brother that Edgar Wright left Ant-Man and he started crying. Good job, Marvel. Making children and adults cry seems to be your goal today. (I mean, maybe he was crying because I poked him in the eye while flailing my arms in anger, but you get the point. He's sad! WE ALL ARE!)
 
Tell me which director you would have replace Edgar Wright with who shares a similar directoral talent set, and then we'll sit here and watch as that individual is no where near this project and laugh as it sucks ass.

The problem is really that we HAD someone that was great and perfect for the tone of Ant Man; now we lost him and there's a far higher probability that we're not going to get a good replacement than we are. There are not that many directors with Edgar Wright's unique mix of talent sets.

eh...i like Edgar Wright but there is some definite unnecessary pedestal placing here. Love Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz. Scott Pilgrim was ok, not groundbreaking, not something I must rewatch over and over for its cinematic wonder. And Worlds End seemed very middling to me, not a highpoint of his film career and started to make me question his work.

I was excited to see what he would do with it but I have to admit was a little worried how it would fit into the Marvel Universe of films they are building. That's a very key point people have to understand with these movies and, in my opinion, what is making these movies and everything work so well. They need directors, film makers and producers willing to work within the confines of the overall MCU and that will mean some compromises have to be made.
 
Vaguely off-topic:

Can we ban Film Critic Hulk from GAF? Or at the very least make it a requirement that we don't just copy and paste his pseudo cinema guru shit directly? His gimmicky writing style is all kinds of durr. I can't believe he's still sticking to it all these years later.

I thought FCH was female.

Also: no.
 
Pack it up, Marvel Studios. Your universe is over.

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Pack it up, Marvel Studios. Your universe is over.

I just can't believe this news. I'm actually red in the face right now over it. Marvel finally (apparently accidentally) hired a genius to direct what would have undoubtedly been an incredible piece of cinematic history. Then, in the final hours, they get rid of him. Why? Because he wanted to actually make a good Marvel movie for once? Can't have that, now can we?

In the past few years, Ive been watching these Marvel shits, patiently waiting for the moment when Wright graced us with his vision. I drew pictures of Ant Man and hung them up all over my room along with pictures of Edgar Wright, screen grabs of the leaked footage and photoshopped images of Edgar, Ant Man and I just "hanging out".

It really bugs me [pun intended] that this studio is under the impression that they know what makes a good comic book movie. Who do they think they are exactly? With Wright on board, they absolutely were looking at a 500M domestic return. Now, it's obvious they'll hire a "safe" director to make a "safe" movie and it'll tank, taking the whole damn studio with it.

Actually, that's probably for the best. If Edgar Wright isn't allowed to make a Marvel movie, nobody should be.

* I just told my little brother that Edgar Wright left Ant-Man and he started crying. Good job, Marvel. Making children and adults cry seems to be your goal today. (I mean, maybe he was crying because I poked him in the eye while flailing my arms in anger, but you get the point. He's sad! WE ALL ARE!)

This is a brilliant troll post.
 
I think this ongoing argument about whether its either Wright or Marvel in the right or in the wrong is really stupid. Personally, the massive disappointment I'm feeling now how little to do with whether I'm a Marvel Studio fanboy (I am) or whether I think that Edgar Wright is a good director (I do). Instead is it about how someone had the passion to spend a long time working on something, which I was interested in, and now that's all down the toilet.

The idea of a movie being made by a fresh new director who wasn't involved in the production, with a tight one year deadline, is an unattractive one. The possibility that someone within the pre-production crew is setting up to direct it could be a bit more interesting. But in the end it is still a loss for what could have been. I think in any creative industry, that loss is worth mourning for those who care about the work in question.

It's not about Marvel being a good guy or bad guy, it's not about Wright backing out or being chased out. It's about being sad that a long promised project is now lost at sea. The story behind this will no doubt come out some day, and it will be interesting to discuss it and we can point fingers then and use hindsight to debate whether it was good for business, good for creativity, or whatever. That day is not today imo. :(
 
I also like how everyone is fast to blame and worry about Marvel when they accommodated the fuck out of Wright from the get go and were 100 percent on board for almost a decade. They're clearly not afraid of working outside the box and you have to look no further than giving someone like James Gunn that budget.

If they arrived at this decision I can assure you it wasnt an easy one to make. shit happens.

Yup.

I'd almost bet money Wright was risking another delay for reasons. I love the guy, but he was taking his sweet ass time with this goddamned film.
 
The all caps hulk-thing is extremely played out, and it detracts from whatever value his/her writing sometimes contains.

If it's that bad (and yes, it usually is) then there's decapitalisation tools online for your to use. It's what I did.

The arguments remain valid and extremely well thought-out and constructed (generally, I find he/she wears their heart on their sleeve a bit too much sometimes).
 
Pack it up, Marvel Studios. Your universe is over.

I just can't believe this news. I'm actually red in the face right now over it. Marvel finally (apparently accidentally) hired a genius to direct what would have undoubtedly been an incredible piece of cinematic history. Then, in the final hours, they get rid of him. Why? Because he wanted to actually make a good Marvel movie for once? Can't have that, now can we?

In the past few years, Ive been watching these Marvel shits, patiently waiting for the moment when Wright graced us with his vision. I drew pictures of Ant Man and hung them up all over my room along with pictures of Edgar Wright, screen grabs of the leaked footage and photoshopped images of Edgar, Ant Man and I just "hanging out".

It really bugs me [pun intended] that this studio is under the impression that they know what makes a good comic book movie. Who do they think they are exactly? With Wright on board, they absolutely were looking at a 500M domestic return. Now, it's obvious they'll hire a "safe" director to make a "safe" movie and it'll tank, taking the whole damn studio with it.

Actually, that's probably for the best. If Edgar Wright isn't allowed to make a Marvel movie, nobody should be.

* I just told my little brother that Edgar Wright left Ant-Man and he started crying. Good job, Marvel. Making children and adults cry seems to be your goal today. (I mean, maybe he was crying because I poked him in the eye while flailing my arms in anger, but you get the point. He's sad! WE ALL ARE!)

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I've gotta say, the reactions in this thread are fucking hilarious. All I know is that when this releases, I'll be in the theater watching it and hopefully enjoy myself as well as the movie. I've enjoyed all the other Marvel movies for what they were and I doubt this one will be any different.
 
Marvel just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about comic book film culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in other films where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in the comic book film culture, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the comic book film audience, after hearing about this, is not going to want to watch Ant-Man, nor will they watch any more of Marvel's films. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Marvel has alienated an entire market with this move.

Marvel, publicly apologize and cancel Ant-Man or you can kiss your business goodbye.
 
I think this ongoing argument about whether its either Wright or Marvel in the right or in the wrong is really stupid. Personally, the massive disappointment I'm feeling now how little to do with whether I'm a Marvel Studio fanboy (I am) or whether I think that Edgar Wright is a good director (I do). Instead is it about how someone had the passion to spend a long time working on something, which I was interested in, and now that's all down the toilet.

The idea of a movie being made by a fresh new director who wasn't involved in the production, with a tight one year deadline, is an unattractive one. The possibility that someone within the pre-production crew is setting up to direct it could be a bit more interesting. But in the end it is still a loss for what could have been. I think in any creative industry, that loss is worth mourning for those who care about the work in question.

It's not about Marvel being a good guy or bad guy, it's not about Wright backing out or being chased out. It's about being sad that a long promised project is now lost at sea. The story behind this will no doubt come out some day, and it will be interesting to discuss it and we can point fingers then and use hindsight to debate whether it was good for business, good for creativity, or whatever. That day is not today imo. :(

hammer on a nail
 
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