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[IntentionalPun]

IntentionalPun, you should be really jealous of me. When I hear you guys complain about artifacts and resolution, I’m in the back nodding and saying you’re right. In reality I can’t tell the difference. All I’m thinking is “Man, these games look better than my Sega Genesis games”, and I’m happy. I hope it’s from being a little older and not being a technical moron.

I mean, I am jealous. I'd love to be able to use DLSS on PC, but it's also not that big of a deal to me because I don't mind just dealing with a lower native res than I could push and there are no upscaling artifacts when you don't use upscaling.

I'm not a graphics whore.. distracting glitches are distracting glitches... you've mistaken me for someone who cares a ton about graphics, I like them. and this game looks great, just hoping those glitches are gone.. and they weren't in the original trailer.

 

[HAL-01]

That is literally the definition of a cut scene, a non interactive event or scene that breaks up actual game play. Yes it's in the game engine and looks great, anyway nothing more to say from me on this.

Go ahead, quote the rest of the definition.
A 2 second animation triggered on command by player input is not a cutscene

I already said there’s not 2 ways about it, you can keep pretending they are if it makes you feel nice

 

[CamHostage]

I guess the game is just constantly playing cutscenes mid-fight every time you get grabbed, or do stealth kills, or capture a creature. They also zoom in and play a 2 second animation. It surely makes more sense to act as if they’re cutscenes than to just call it gameplay.

I get what you're saying, but I believe you would call that a cutscene. An in-engine, on-location, realtime cutscene, where something scripted happens and the game uses unique camera/animation/models/textures/effects (depending on how they did it; sometimes it goes as deep as swapping everything, sometimes the in-game do the job...) before it cuts back or transitions to gameplay. So like Mortal Kombat fatalities, or Mario collecting a Shine.

It's not a knock on the game to call that a "cutscene", it is in-engine, but the lighting and possibly some character model aspects (for sure her facial expression is customized just for that one bit of action) might be different in these sequences than what you're usually running around as.

 

[Three]

I get what you're saying, but I believe you would call that a cutscene. An in-engine, on-location, realtime cutscene, where something scripted happens and the game uses unique camera/animation/models/textures/effects (depending on how they did it; sometimes it goes as deep as swapping everything, sometimes the in-game do the job...) before it cuts back or transitions to gameplay. So like Mortal Kombat fatalities, or Mario collecting a Shine.

It's not a knock on the game to call that a "cutscene", it is in-engine, but the lighting and possibly some character model aspects (for sure her facial expression is customized just for that one bit of action) might be different in these sequences than what you're usually running around as.

Being closer they would obviously be different but its all in realtime. In the context of the persons post

Its a cut scene though not game play, dont think the actual game play looks as good as the CGI / bull shots we had seen up to this point.

What would be the difference if the game is rendering that detail in realtime in what appears to be within a single frame transition?

 

[3liteDragon]

This is a first year cross-gen PlayStation game and we haven’t even seen God of War yet (rumoured to be exclusive to PS5)…

 

[Hoddi]

thats facialhair/peach fuzz. uprez artifacts don't catch light like that.

I think it's both. The model definitely has that fuzz but there were also some visible scaling artifacts separate from the fuzz.

It's not unusual for games to render post-effects like Depth-of-Field at quarter resolution. Couple that with fine detail like facial fuzz and it would look a lot like those artifacts.

Edit:

On a side note, the game looks fantastic. It's definitely a sizeable upgrade over the original regardless of its last-gen roots.

 

[CamHostage]

Being closer they would obviously be different but its all in realtime. In the context of the persons post

What would be the difference if the game is rendering that detail in realtime in what appears to be within a single frame transition?

None, if that helps us stop from fighting about it. The PS5 is making those cutscenes in realtime. Much like Horizon 1 or most any other game, the game will look X amount of good in "cutscenes" and Y amount of good when you're controlling Aloy, and ideally the difference is so negligible and smooth (especially since, in gameplay, you're not that far up close and she won't be having that hand-touched level of facial expression in play) that it won't matter.

 

[namekuseijin]

went back to ZD in 4K. it's still stunning... FW sure has a lot more dynamics going on PS4, but in static looks it's still every bit as gorgeous...

 

[namekuseijin]

thats facialhair/peach fuzz. uprez artifacts don't catch light like that.

yeah, I noticed her peach-like velvet skin too. Eerie...

 

[MasterCornholio]

Can this be Sonys Craig moment?

So much for that.

 

[Entroyp]

Just watch this a second and third time. Can’t wait to play it. Bummer about lack of release date.

 

[saintjules]

Just watching the 4k version on my OLED...Is FW achieving CGI type gameplay?

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

This is a first year cross-gen PlayStation game and we haven’t even seen God of War yet (rumoured to be exclusive to PS5)…

IKR

Do you see how people who don't plan on buying the game are hanging in here and being salty?

It's going to be even worse when GOW Ragnarok is shown.

 

[MasterCornholio]

This is a first year cross-gen PlayStation game and we haven’t even seen God of War yet (rumoured to be exclusive to PS5)…

I definitely like how Sony started this generation. My only wish is for more PS5s to be available.

All you need is quality software. Simple as that.

 

[harmny]

Just watching the 4k version on my OLED...Is FW achieving CGI type gameplay?

Still way off but getting better all the time

 

[Ezekiel_]

Anyone have a high quality high bitrate non-shitty Youtube-compressed version of the video ?

 

[PleaseDontBanMe]

pc gamers will get to play this in 5 years when the PS6 is out

I just hope they fixed the facial animation in the rpg elements, that was the only negative thing i could say about the first game

 

[Oddvintagechap]

This is a first year cross-gen PlayStation game and we haven’t even seen God of War yet (rumoured to be exclusive to PS5)…

Why we acting like we would even give a fuck if GOW2 was a PS4 exclusive. GOW is still one of the best looking games out there. And hella fun.

All they need to add is more environments and different type of enemies.

 

[kyoji]

Its a cut scene though not game play, dont think the actual game play looks as good as the CGI / bull shots we had seen up to this point.

A prettier version of the last game is good enough though, I am in.

Get help sir. i can provide you with hot line numbers if you need to cope

 

[TaylorSwiftFan]

Still way off but getting better all the time

I wouldn’t say way off. It’s pretty close from what I can see.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

pc gamers will get to play this in 5 years when the PS6 is out

I just hope they fixed the facial animation in the rpg elements, that was the only negative thing i could say about the first game

"HOPE"

 

[harmny]

I wouldn’t say way off. It’s pretty close from what I can see.

I work with offline cg renders all day and it's way off. It doesn't mean it looks bad. It looks great. But it's still a videogame. it's getting better all the time though. When real time raytracing becomes the standard we'll get really close.

 

[ResilientBanana]

The game looks phenomenal, can't wait to play it. The animation has some jank, although it's easy to gloss over if the gameplay is anywhere near the original.

 

[Vick]

I wouldn’t say way off. It’s pretty close from what I can see.

WAY off.

Remember, WAY off.

Spoiler

Might want to check that user post history. Then take a shot for every "Sony fanboys" and let me know if you're still alive after a few minutes.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Those water ripples ...

 

[akaFullmetal]

Just blew my expectations for a cross gen game. Looks cgi at times. Feels like we are going from uncharted to uncharted 2. Everything has improved, with traversal, combat and destruction. Plus those water sections were sublime.

 

[gow3isben]

OK this looked incredible. Equal to ratchet. How the hell did they do this to a cross-gen open world game?

Can't wait for PS5 only Ragnarok.

Aloy also emoted like shit in HZD and that is so much improved. She will feel like an actual character now as opposed to a rubber doll.

 

[bender]

Stunning visuals but that's hardly a surprise. The draw of the bow still seems to lack tension. Time to boot up the original for the 4th or 5th time and give up on it a few hours in (again).

 

[gow3isben]

And this settles it. 3-4 years from now games will have matched or even surpassed that UE 5 tech demo

 

[kyliethicc]

And we have a map. Nice variety.

Will be interesting to see why they seem to have added a very large lake (or sea) in central California to almost split the land mass.

Also seems to be teasing that she's headed south to the Los Angeles area, eventually.

 

[IntentionalPun]

thats facialhair/peach fuzz. uprez artifacts don't catch light like that.

The dino armor has peach fuzz? I never mentioned her face.

 

[PleaseDontBanMe]

WAY off.

Remember, WAY off.

Spoiler

Might want to check that user post history. Then take a shot for every "Sony fanboys" and let me know if you're still alive after a few minutes.

i still cant believe we've surpassed Toy Story quality years ago

we're spoiled as fuk living in the future now

 

[Stooky]

The dino armor has peach fuzz? I never mentioned her face.

My bad lol

 

[HAL-01]

I mean, I am jealous. I'd love to be able to use DLSS on PC, but it's also not that big of a deal to me because I don't mind just dealing with a lower native res than I could push and there are no upscaling artifacts when you don't use upscaling.

I'm not a graphics whore.. distracting glitches are distracting glitches... you've mistaken me for someone who cares a ton about graphics, I like them. and this game looks great, just hoping those glitches are gone.. and they weren't in the original trailer.

The post-process depth of field effect used is not the greatest quality, if what you noticed is some weird shimmering around character’s outlines, that’s the culprit. It fucks up the AA and causes some unintended weird bloom. You can kinda notice the same artifacts in the scene with the farmer on the reveal trailer

 

[IntentionalPun]

The post-process depth of field effect used is not the greatest quality, if what you noticed is some weird shimmering around character’s outlines, that’s the culprit. It fucks up the AA and causes some unintended weird bloom. You can kinda notice the same artifacts in the scene with the farmer on the reveal trailer

It’s not just that though; but yeah I’m not certain it’s all from reconstruction.

The shadows for instance from her straw armor in the first scene shimmering though look just like what problem DLSS has an issue with anything with lines or checkers. Lots of other glitchy things aren’t on the edges of objects either but in the center of them. Maybe it’s just bugs that’ll get worked out.

 

[rofif]

Sorry I didn't watch whole. When Is it coming to pc? Did they say?

 

[IntentionalPun]

Sorry I didn't watch whole. When Is it coming to pc? Did they say?

No and they won’t for years if it ever comes at all.

 

[DenchDeckard]

People think ratchet looks better than this?

I mean, I love ratchet and I guess the target of looking like a cg cartoon is met but aloud model looks insane on this.

 

[rofif]

No and they won’t for years if it ever comes at all.

So they released first one pc to bait PS5 buyers? I mean I have PS5 and pc so I don't care. Just curious

 

[IntentionalPun]

So they released first one pc to bait PS5 buyers? I mean I have PS5 and pc so I don't care. Just curious

We’ll have to see what their strategy is but I doubt it involves near release PC releases for big SP games.

And yeah I think HZD was partly to spur some interest in the IP and encourage PS5 buying.

Sony gonna try their hand at some day and date PC GAAS releases though probably.

 

[Garani]

Sorry I didn't watch whole. When Is it coming to pc? Did they say?

They stated it's a Playstation Exclusive.

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

So they released first one pc to bait PS5 buyers? I mean I have PS5 and pc so I don't care. Just curious

Kinda, I remember the article about the game coming to PC on the PS Blog said something along those lines:
"We’re confident PC players will fall in love with Aloy and her world. Then, when Horizon Forbidden West arrives for PlayStation 5 and it’s time to find out where Aloy’s journey takes her next, we invite them to join along!"

 

[Life]

Maybe people shouldn't be prisoners of the moment, since the direct feed video was literally 20 minutes away. The streams make the unveiling an event. There's a marketing phenomenon associated with that, that I don't remember. Most fans are not NeoGAF anyway, and are not prone to extreme cynicism and overreaction that this thread had. Guaranteed most people came away from the stream impressed. The 4k video, even moreso.

That's my point - would these people watch the direct feed after? Or will they go away with lasting impressions from the livestream?

 

[kyliethicc]

So they released first one pc to bait PS5 buyers? I mean I have PS5 and pc so I don't care. Just curious

They put the 1st game on PC to make money.

So far, the new one is PS4 PS5 only.

Will it ever come to PC? I'd assume yes. When? Idk.

 

[IntentionalPun]

That's my point - would these people watch the direct feed after? Or will they go away with lasting impressions from the livestream?

Huge chunk of people are watching on tiny screens on phones.

It’s really not that big of a deal, it looked great and most people are aware of the fact streams aren’t the greatest.

Just dropping a YouTube link isn’t going to create the same kind of event atmosphere.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I’ve been to sleep, but any confirmation from Geurilla that there will be a 60 FPS mode on ps5? Was hoping someone from the press reached out while I was out cold?

 

[Dragon_Rocks]

Looks good but still needs lot of improvement:

* Many places Aloy and environment don't mix organically. Feels as if Aloy is separate from the environment and is not fitting well with the objects around.
* Way too colorful in some scenes. Felt like Immortal Fenyx Rising in some places.
* Melee combat still feels bad and clunky.
* Hitboxes are horrible. In the mammoth fight Aloy just went through several objects without showing any impact or knock back.
* Taking control of machines still feels like simple. The device connect and hacking system should feel more attached rather than how it is now. The animation needs to show proper physical contact and wires/tentacles plugging in the machine system to hack.
* Still the climbing system seems based on contact points rather than free climb like in BotW and Genshin Impact. Grapple hook system should give some freedom but need to see more of it. Glider seems nice.
* Bow as main weapon was a given but they should put some other better melee weapon along with the spear. We should be able to craft different weapons (melee/ranged) from machine parts rather than just use them temporarily during fights.

 

[Heisenberg007]

I’ve been to sleep, but any confirmation from Geurilla that there will be a 60 FPS mode on ps5? Was hoping someone from the press reached out while I was out cold?

No confirmation yet, but I can guarantee that there will be a 60 FPS mode. Sony hasn't released a single PS5 game with only a 30 FPS mode so far. Besides, this is a cross-generation game. PS4 will be at 30 FPS. PS5 will surely have a 60 FPS mode, minus 4K and ray tracing.

 

[Entroyp]

I hope this rustle some feathers

 

[DenchDeckard]

No confirmation yet, but I can guarantee that there will be a 60 FPS mode. Sony hasn't released a single PS5 game with only a 30 FPS mode so far. Besides, this is a cross-generation game. PS4 will be at 30 FPS. PS5 will surely have a 60 FPS mode, minus 4K and ray tracing.

yup this is what I’m expecting too, was just hoping there may have been confirmation but I guess they will wait until a little closer to launch. It was the only standout issue for me in such an impressive showcase.