kyliethicc
Member
I hope its like this:
PS4 version (same as HZD):
PS4 - native 1080p @ 30 Hz
PS4 Pro - checkerboard 4K @ 30
PS5 version:
PS5 resolution - native 4K @ 30
PS5 performance - checkerboard 4K @ 60
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Horizon: Forbidden West State of Play announced for May 27th
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PS4 version (same as HZD):
PS4 - native 1080p @ 30 Hz
PS4 Pro - checkerboard 4K @ 30
PS5 version:
PS5 resolution - native 4K @ 30
PS5 performance - checkerboard 4K @ 60
Superayate
Member
You are showing exactly the moment which has slightly disappointed me, destruction effect is nice, but all the pieces after destruction disappeared. And a new time, the impact from Aloy on folliage is very limitation. It's beautiful, but that's thing showing that remain in the heart a cross gen game.
Also, I'm affraid for my ps4 pro, she will suicide with the game... Already so noisy with old games...
SSfox
Member
Never is better.
Imtjnotu
Member
Gotta admit there are some solid points in here
MastaKiiLA
Member
I assume the lake is along the San Andreas fault. Thanks for the map pic. Once someone pointed out that the numbers were coordinates, I googled a few of them during the preshow.And we have a map. Nice variety.
Will be interesting to see why they seem to have added a very large lake (or sea) in central California to almost split the land mass.
Also seems to be teasing that she's headed south to the Los Angeles area, eventually.
HAL-01
Member
It’s even more likely considering HZD already has performance and resolution modes. They’re both locked at 30 because PS4, but that’s a precedent
GymWolf
Gold Member
As an expert in mmm...hand to spear combat, i can confirm, having the right grip is everything.
alucard0712_rus
Banned
Watched the video. Graphics looks amazing but those cutscenes everywhere...
I hope there will be more gameplay and much less cutscenes that interrupt gameplay.
I hope there will be more gameplay and much less cutscenes that interrupt gameplay.
dr guildo
Member
GymWolf
Gold Member
I don't wanna be a debbie downer but why people is talking about major destruction improvement?! Did i miss something or just people never played the original game??
Because in the first one you can destroy various sized rocks, various plants (with leaves physics), some trees, small wood houses and many other things, when you encounter the goliath for the first time he literally destroy the gigantic metal structures where aloy stands...
Where the fuck people saw this improved distruction? For that wall that the mammouth destroy with debris that disappear immediately?! How is different from the dinobots destroying big rocks in the first one?!
Sometimes i have the impression that a lot of people never played the original one when they say zero physics or destruction...
I watched the trailer 3 times and the only distruction was the wall and when she throw a granade to the wood barrier in the mammouth.
Did i miss any other major destruction in the trailer? Honest question guys.
Because in the first one you can destroy various sized rocks, various plants (with leaves physics), some trees, small wood houses and many other things, when you encounter the goliath for the first time he literally destroy the gigantic metal structures where aloy stands...
Where the fuck people saw this improved distruction? For that wall that the mammouth destroy with debris that disappear immediately?! How is different from the dinobots destroying big rocks in the first one?!
Sometimes i have the impression that a lot of people never played the original one when they say zero physics or destruction...
I watched the trailer 3 times and the only distruction was the wall and when she throw a granade to the wood barrier in the mammouth.
Did i miss any other major destruction in the trailer? Honest question guys.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Ratchet has that pixar cg looking but imo this looks better overall.
P.s. and people in here thought that returnal looked nextgen, lmao.
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MastaKiiLA
Member
Next gen visuals will cover a spectrum, just like current gen and last gen and so on. Returnal very much looks next gen. There's nothing else on previous systems that looks that good at 60fps. That's pretty much the definition of next generation; looking better than what came before.
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Ultra Donny
Member
Looks so good. Really impressed with the graphics. Looks fun as well. But why is she commentating on everything she does, “- I have to do that. -Go there, -I have to get to the high ground” Besides that it looks awesome.
GymWolf
Gold Member
You really need to play more games if you think that returnal looks better than a lot of old gen games...and the game doesn't keep up 60 frames for shit with hell on screen, same for the fake dynamic 4k.
In a different topic i posted the close up of some enemy models and they were noticeably inferior to current gen stuff, same for the environment textures.
The only "impressive" thing are the cartoony laser bubbles who fill an area with a lot of enemies on screen and some of the alien planet art style.
Days gone, gow, tsushima and all the other ps4 games at 60 frames on ps5 looks all better than returnal and they are mostly full fledged open world games.
You really don't buy returnal for the graphics dude.
Yoboman
Member
That’s how Guerrillas gameplay demos have been for awhile, even if that doesn’t happen in game. And seeing as Horizon sold like a house on fire I’d say they are on to something
dr guildo
Member
I still don't get why people are still seeking for native 4K when even DF couldn't guess the native resolution of the UE5 demo. What a waste of ressources. I hope games will be native 1080p feat reconstruction tech ala DLSS 2.0. Sometimes we have to get a smart approach of things, I mean, why to waste ressources for just wasting, if the result is the same by using tricks ?
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Ultra Donny
Member
Good, can’t remember that being the case in the first game. Yeah, especially now when they release outside the PlayStation ecosystem and to clarify, I think it looks good and the comment thing on her actions was nitpicking on a otherwise stellar gameplay reveal.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Yeah, on console i'm perfectly okay with native 1440p.
The fact is, you need a very good upscaling system to upscale from 1080p to 4k and sony checkboard is still not there yet, the difference in clarity between DG pc and DG 4k check is pretty noticeable.
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Noticed that too. It reminded me of this nvidia tech demo I saw years ago
And I thought wow we've come a long way.
kyliethicc
Member
But Days Gone is the only Sony 1st party game that uses Unreal Engine. That could be a factor.
The checkerboarding used by Guerrilla, Santa Monica, Sucker Punch, and Polyphony on their respective engines all look very good.
I think the new footage we have of HFW is native 4K, but if its 4K CB, well then its very sharp and good looking.
mancstheps5fanboy
Banned
finding nemo water scenes , amazingly beautiful.
mancstheps5fanboy
Banned
???
look more closely , you'll see the grass fold under feet.
bet you ain't impressed a beetle ain't taking a shit on a leaf also...
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dr guildo
Member
The DFgate with UE demo tells us that the future belongs to reconstruction techniques. And remember, reality@720p will be always superior than CGI@16k.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
GymWolf
Gold Member
Oh i know that, details are not related to resolution, but it is also true that better reaolution make you see more and better details.
720p is like watching reality while being heavily myopic.
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MastaKiiLA
Member
Well, I'm sure you won't need a next-gen console, with the exhaustive list of X1X and PS4P games that look better than Returnal, while also running at 60fps.
Maybe you miss my point, as you refer to 30fps current gen games running at 60fps on next-gen consoles. They didn't run at 60fps on current gen machines right? So that means you can't find anything on the current gen at 60fps, that looks better than Returnal. I'm not a master linguist, but by definition, that should make Returnal's visuals next-gen, as they exceed what was possible on the current gen. Unless there exists some imaginary intermediate state between current gen and next gen, where a game like Returnal resides visually. Schrodinger's gen, I guess.
This silly semantic trick is some bizarre dance that gamers have seemingly invented to cope with the ever-shrinking bumps in graphical fidelity with each new generation of consoles. But the simple definition used in the past should still apply today. If it wasn't possible on the existing consoles, then it resides in the realm of the new consoles.; ergo, next gen.
GymWolf
Gold Member
I already possess a ps5 to play games with far better graphic than returnal like demons remake or morales, like i said, you don't buy that game for the graphic.
And like i said, returnal doesn't have stable 60 frames or locked 4k, so isn't doing anything more than a more stable performance mode for gow on ps4 or doom returnal who absolutely doesn't look worse than returnal, prolly the opposite.
We can argue about semantics, but a ps4 title with zero graphic upgrades looking better than a full fledged ps5 game is enough proof for me to say that returnal doesn't look that impressive or next gen, 60 frames or not.
I don't get the last part but if you are talking about diminishing returns, yes i think that narrative is utter bullshit when we are nowhere near movies cg tier and even more far away from photorealism during pure unscripted gameplay.
People says this shit over and over just to be impressed by the usual ND, SM etc. over and over, it's almost poetic.
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saintjules
Gold Member
Already a thread on it, sorry.
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Galatico91
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ZywyPL
Banned
But still, watching the same movie from DVD, BD and UHD shows staggering difference, with all the tiny tiny details like skin wrinkles, pores, clothes fabrics, sand grains and so on being visible in the latter. If you put a lot of details into a game and want to expose them on the screen, high resolution is the the only way to do it. As seen with the 1080p stream vs uploaded 4K footage - same game, MUCH better end result.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Can't make her attractive as it will upset the snowflakes saying it's sexist to make a strong woman attractive.......
mancstheps5fanboy
Banned
tbh guerrilla are genius , the cartoon esq colours , make the game sparkle, yet it is so organic , guerrilla , if you read this , thank you people , sending love , now leak us a ps5 killzone ;P x
Thank you.
See, this is what happens when you only wanna focus on the faults.
Life comes at you fast.
Be critical, have opinions. Thats never a bad thing. But at least actually look for the faults first before throwing out criticisms.
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harmny
Banned
WAY off.
Remember, WAY off.
Might want to check that user post history. Then take a shot for every "Sony fanboys" and let me know if you're still alive after a few minutes.
I own a ps5 and 0 xboxes. I also own HZD on both ps4 and pc
If you mean to say it looks better than 15 year old cgi then yes. It does. But it's 2021.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Damn, the Pixar5 putting in cross-gen work!WAY off.
Remember, WAY off.
Might want to check that user post history. Then take a shot for every "Sony fanboys" and let me know if you're still alive after a few minutes.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
There were locations marked on the map (SF, Florida and Caribbean?). I'm sure you select the area, it loads and there is a smaller open world there. I doubt you walk from SF to Florida.
VulcanRaven
Member
The graphics are very impressive. That fight near the end looked awesome. I still need to play the first game.
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
Oh really? I've seen you shitting on every PS-related thread since then? Release that stress and sell your imaginary PS5, some voodoo would work to release that PS5 ghost console that isn't with you in real life.
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Salmon Snake
Member
The boss looked super fun and the game is drop dead gorgeous!
I think Aloy talks a bit too much, but she did talk by herself quite a lot in the first game if my memory serves my right?
I think Aloy talks a bit too much, but she did talk by herself quite a lot in the first game if my memory serves my right?
SportsFan581
Member
4k trailer looking very nice. I really like the art style in the underwater areas.
dr guildo
Member
Because you changed the rules, I was comparing two differents thing@ different resolutions, not the same thing@different resolutions.
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
I fuck with everything about this game, kept all the amazing core concepts and fixed some issues I had with the first game, simply amazing sony, simply amazing!
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
I saw that too, later parts did seem to react. I thought it was just my eyes missing it
MasterCornholio
Member
In some ways it does. Like the RT that's used in Ratchet for example. Then there's all next gen I/O stuff that while doesn't exactly make the visuals better it does change the games design.
But either way PS5 owners have access to both so it really doesn't matter if one looks better than the other.
SSfox
Member
So people say Horizon FW looks current gen, and then when i reply to those i got warning from mods??!!! DUH!!!
I see people shit and write misinformation all day about PlayStation but i never use the report function, while i disagree with those obviously but i think people have the right to say whatever they feel, even if it will always hurts other people feeling but freedom of expression is necessary, imo at least.
I see people shit and write misinformation all day about PlayStation but i never use the report function, while i disagree with those obviously but i think people have the right to say whatever they feel, even if it will always hurts other people feeling but freedom of expression is necessary, imo at least.