HorrorAGE: Hellraiser series

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Ive just re-watched pt.1 & 2 over the weekend and im enjoying them tremendously.

Most of the effects (mainly pt.1) hold up well enough, but pt.2's omfg too funny!

Those skeletons making out on pole at the end is just too much...:lol :lol :lol

Pt.2's ending was LAME as fuck...very dissapointing...

I've got Pt.3 read to watch...should i bother with pt.4 onwards?

Pinhead rules.

Any otha fans?

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My father had part 2 on tape when I was very young. I was scared. Couldn't walk through the house at night I think. Chains and shit...
 
I'd say you shouldn't even bother with part 3. Well, to be fair, compared to other horror of the era, the further sequels aren't terrible, but they aren't nearly as good as the first two flicks.

The first movie is an absolute staple of the genre. The sequel is pretty good, although I might characterize is more as a weird sort of fantasy film rather than horror. If you dig the flicks enough, check out Clive's Books of Blood and The Hellbound Heart, which is the basis for the first movie.

Probably goes without mentioning, but some of the other Clive Barker movies are worth watching. Candyman is on the border of being a good genre flick. Lord of Illusions is an interesting but flawed near hit. Nightbreed is pretty decent, but I'd probably only really recommend it if you are a fan of awesome costume/makeup effects and/or David Cronenberg. And Midnight Meat Train is pretty acceptable, although I'm not a fan of the lead. It's reminiscent of Candyman. And if you hate Kitamura, you wouldn't know he directed it if you hadn't heard beforehand. Very restrained, for him.
 
gah! im almost an hour into pt.3, and is it wrong that i don't want pinheads character back-story explored?

I liked how we knew very little about him in pt.1...kept a bit of mystery about him and his friends...

now this dumb bloody woman walking around a battlefield with him in his former life..lame.
 
I watched all of these in sequence about a year ago, throughout a week, not in one sitting of course.

I'm a huge horror fan, so I tend to find something in all the films that I can enjoy. One thing that always holds these films together is the fact that, regardless if whether you enjoy them or not, they all come off as quite scary, or at least have moments of being scary. Pinhead is just genuinely spooky, and the fact that he (Mostly) acts on duty as opposed to personal drive, makes him all the more frightening. "The BOX...you opened it, we came"....

As White Man said, the third one is probably the worst, if only because Pinhead turns into a typical "I'm taking over the world, for no reason" type villain, as opposed to a demon that simply does his job. The cenobites are also fucking ridiculous in it, even so, if you really dig the mythology/characters, you might enjoy it, but probably won't. For some reason, this film seems like it was the most influenced by the other horror movies of that time...Pinhead is even funny on an occasion or two.

DO NOT LET PART 3 DETER YOU FROM PART 4. Shocking as it may sound, Hellraiser 4 is actually a return to form. It's a pretty interesting mix of sci-fi, horror, and period piece. Delves into the mythology of pinhead, has some cool cenobites, and doesn't have the ridiculousness of 3.

Part 5, Inferno, is also definitely worth checking out if you're a fan of the series. It's actually a mix of detective fiction/horror/psychological thriller...Pinhead isn't in it all that much, but the villain that they introduce is damn near just as scary.

Part 6, Hellseeker, is a little bit like part 5, but closer to Jabobs Latter. I've always felt that part 5 and 6 sorta go hand in hand. Their very different in tone from the other films in the series, and can almost stand alone, but still quite scary and they somewhat go against genre type by focusing on two male victims.

Part 7, Deader, is kind of interesting. From what I understand, it was not originally supposed to be a Hellraiser film, and it really does show. It was obviously supposed to be a cult film of some sort, somewhere along the line, somebody must have secured some rights or something because Pinhead sticks out like a sore thumb. Even so, I believe that it was one of the more frightening entries in the series...honest to god, their is a part in the beginning where a person with a bad heart can have a cardiac arrest if they aren't careful.

Part 8, Hellworld....lol. If you're going to skip one, skip this one, as it's the last in the series before they do the remake, and really feels like a modern, run of the mill, shitty teenage sex horror. It delves into the "scary computer world" type stuff that you see in movies like Feardotcom and Stay Alive. If you really need motivation to see it, hell, it does have Lance Henriksen, but even he can't save this.

All in all, when matched up against A Nightmare on Elm Street, Childs Play, Halloween, and Friday the 13th, I'd say it ranks a close second to the Kruger films as far as being a horror franchise that wore its welcome. As for actually being scary, it's definitely the top of the list far as I'm concerned.
 
Xater said:
I only really like the first one. The second one was alright but it's just not as special.

The problem with the second one is that it simply doesn't make sense...they couldn't get the guy that played Larry to come back, and the entire film is fucked up because of it.

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I can't beliebe 8 movies were made.

I agree though, Hellraiser 4 is decent at the very least.

There was also a fanfilm done, I never saw it though : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0805545/
 
omfg the cenobites in pt.3 are beyond ridiculous...so the DJ is now mr. killer CD cenobite!?

death my camera lense?

the church part is pretty cool tho...
 
segarr said:
There was also a fanfilm done, I never saw it though : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0805545/


omg no no no no no...i just went to the imdb link...they are re-making pt.1?!

WHY????

Does clive need the money? Seriously why do they keep fucking with awesome originals...

its just gonna be a fucking CGI snooze fest...i liked the originals SFX...

EDIT: just finished it. it was pretty shite. some entertaining scenes and lines, but not very good at all. Not robocop 3 bad, but lame.

I will still watch 4 cuz every1 seems to agree its worth a look. :D
 
Go319 said:
omg no no no no no...i just went to the imdb link...they are re-making pt.1?!

WHY????

Does clive need the money? Seriously why do they keep fucking with awesome originals...

its just gonna be a fucking CGI snooze fest...i liked the originals SFX...

EDIT: just finished it. it was pretty shite. some entertaining scenes and lines, but not very good at all. Not robocop 3 bad, but lame.

I will still watch 4 cuz every1 seems to agree its worth a look. :D

Yeah, it's kind of unfortunate, as the original film is only 20 damn years old, and last I heard, they won't be bringing Bradley back as Pinhead.

I doubt Barker needs the money, this is most likely just execs trying to cash in on a name, as always.
 
I fuckin love Hellraiser. It has the 3 themes of horror combined: Gore and blood, creepiness, and the WTF factor.

Hellraiser was one of the only movies that after watching I wouldnt be able to sleep, but loving it so much, I still continued watching the ones we owned (1-7) until my parents hid them as a favor to me and were never able to find them again exept for Hellraiser: Bloodline.

The bald cenobite that sounded like a guy and a girl together creeped me out the most for some reason. That voice reminded me of HIM from Powerpuff Girls and that kinda voice, so unnatural, is just creepy.

I never understood how just by making the puzzlebox he was able to introduce hell into the world (like the mechanics and stuff).

I also really hated that bitch Julia in the first movie. What woman licks a guy's fingers, seriously? If I was the dude, I'd be all like, "Do I taste like chicken?"
 
Fun fact: The music that plays over the scene where Frank is summoned was written by Chris Young without any knowledge of how the actual scene plays out, yet it fit perfectly when they put it on. Chris told me that Barker was so happy with it that he turned up at his house just to give him a big hug :lol
 
I wish I could see the original cut of part 4 before Dimension Films kept forcing Kevin Yager to cut, edit, and reshoot nearly everything in it. The final version turned into such a hacked up mess. A lot of the more intriguing segments (the original origin story and the showdown between Angelique and Pinhead) were removed competely.
 
segarr said:
Part 8, Hellworld....lol. If you're going to skip one, skip this one, as it's the last in the series before they do the remake, and really feels like a modern, run of the mill, shitty teenage sex horror. It delves into the "scary computer world" type stuff that you see in movies like Feardotcom and Stay Alive. If you really need motivation to see it, hell, it does have Lance Henriksen, but even he can't save this.
WAAT??!!! OMFG REALLY?!
 
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