FallingEdge
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I've worn short shorts at the gym.
Feels good man.
Feels good man.
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Hot Mom Defends Herself Against Facebook Haters, gives a non-apology
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Dude Abides
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As was already pointed out, she could have shown herself exercising rather than modeling her hot bod in a display of narcissistic exhibitionism. The message is "I have three kids and I'm still hot" not "I have three kids and I still have time to exercise." I can't believe people are seriously disputing this.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
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But she's still only communicating with her followers. She has no reason or need to try to placate people who aren't her fans.
It's still not the same. Like I said before, the only analogy that works is if she were to directly message individuals with that picture. It's the reason Twitter has DMs versus Tweets, etc. They're totally separate.
Also, she knows her followers are interested in fitness. You have no idea if a random person on the street is. You also don't communicate with people in person using image macros and memes and one-liners. You have a conversation. You communicate in a completely different way.
Kung Fu Jedi
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And where I'm at, I see women dressed like that all the time when out on a run.
In regards to why obesity is becoming more of a problem to me it looks like an of multiple systems and their relationship to one another. Individual and family value system as it relates to priorities.
Which is why so many use the cost argument as it relates t eating healthy. Even if it was valid if you valued health over say entertainment or something else you would budget accordingly.
Then we have the time issue, evident in SO many ways. Peoples attention span and expectation in regard to their input and realties output (general sense) is increasing. The immediate feedback loop we want is being built and supplied in multiple life areas and is having an effect on other systems.
Basically factors like they above create a value hierarchy in which peoples lives will flow naturally along the path of least resistance as it aligns with that hierarchy, Over time as more people align with similarly hierarchies and those values become more normal on a social and cultural level you start to see an increase like we are seeing now. Interestingly enough we area also seeing another values hierarchy as it relates to a healthy lifestyle and what happens when these 2 structural value/social/belief systems collide.
In regards to the difficulties in losing weight, healthy lifestyle, etc...Going to share this to give some perspective.
I have and have been dealing with an auto immune condition for quite a few years. I have lesions on many parts of my body, some open and bleeding. I have certain masses/growths as well on parts of my body (back, face, neck, chest, etc.)..Heck I have something the size of a golf ball on my back...
I'm also on prednisone a medication known to make people gain weight...
Yet, I still exercise (try to everyday even if just 15-20m)...I try to eat right, etc. I'm FAR from perfect. Exercising can and does physically hurt. Its pretty common for me to bleed while I work out from certain wounds..Heck right now I have a vascular ulcer the size of a half dollar and half an inch deep on my right leg on top of what I wrote above...
But you know what...I want to do what I can to be healthy as I can be. I want to live. Dealing with my health issues puts the value of health , time and life in a different perspective. I also have 2 kids and want to be here for as long as I can for them.
Given my situation I really don't know how long I have on this planet, but I gotta try to do what I can with I got. For most people that's not the case so they don't feel that real pressure early in life (I'm 35). But man
I don't even know the point I was trying to make, but I guess my story relates to the value thing I wrote above. What matters more? Change and what not can be hard. I've spent years and continue to work on habits, mindset, learning, etc. Its a process. To me life is worth that effort, even when it sucks...
Which is why so many use the cost argument as it relates t eating healthy. Even if it was valid if you valued health over say entertainment or something else you would budget accordingly.
Then we have the time issue, evident in SO many ways. Peoples attention span and expectation in regard to their input and realties output (general sense) is increasing. The immediate feedback loop we want is being built and supplied in multiple life areas and is having an effect on other systems.
Basically factors like they above create a value hierarchy in which peoples lives will flow naturally along the path of least resistance as it aligns with that hierarchy, Over time as more people align with similarly hierarchies and those values become more normal on a social and cultural level you start to see an increase like we are seeing now. Interestingly enough we area also seeing another values hierarchy as it relates to a healthy lifestyle and what happens when these 2 structural value/social/belief systems collide.
In regards to the difficulties in losing weight, healthy lifestyle, etc...Going to share this to give some perspective.
I have and have been dealing with an auto immune condition for quite a few years. I have lesions on many parts of my body, some open and bleeding. I have certain masses/growths as well on parts of my body (back, face, neck, chest, etc.)..Heck I have something the size of a golf ball on my back...
I'm also on prednisone a medication known to make people gain weight...
Yet, I still exercise (try to everyday even if just 15-20m)...I try to eat right, etc. I'm FAR from perfect. Exercising can and does physically hurt. Its pretty common for me to bleed while I work out from certain wounds..Heck right now I have a vascular ulcer the size of a half dollar and half an inch deep on my right leg on top of what I wrote above...
But you know what...I want to do what I can to be healthy as I can be. I want to live. Dealing with my health issues puts the value of health , time and life in a different perspective. I also have 2 kids and want to be here for as long as I can for them.
Given my situation I really don't know how long I have on this planet, but I gotta try to do what I can with I got. For most people that's not the case so they don't feel that real pressure early in life (I'm 35). But man
I don't even know the point I was trying to make, but I guess my story relates to the value thing I wrote above. What matters more? Change and what not can be hard. I've spent years and continue to work on habits, mindset, learning, etc. Its a process. To me life is worth that effort, even when it sucks...
velociraptor
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I applaud her for the work she has put in to achieve that body but his post contains an element of truth.
Please see the images in that post. Both images of very fit women working out. Both wearing sports bras and one wearing booty shorts.
Zoe
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When you consider a sports bra a layer, yes it's true.
I'm usually one of the least-covered girls at the gym, and I'm still wearing a tank and running shorts (not booty shorts). Not to mention it's nasty having full skin contact with benches and mats that only get cleaned once in a blue moon.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
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FallingEdge
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Hoodies are fun to wear in the gym because it makes me feel like a bad ass.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
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She's wearing clothes that many female runners wear every day and saying she's only doing it because of "narcissistic exhibitionism".
Dude Abides
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Again, this is not "typical" gym attire in my 19 years of gym-going. Some women do occasionally wear it, but I only see the booty shorts on rare occasions. One can infer intent from how one chooses to convey one's message, as is done all the time. That's how I can assert it. Why do you think this is characterized as "hot mom" instead of "exercise mom." An unfortunate misunderstanding by everyone but you?
Johnny Cage In The Shower
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I hate to sound condescending and a lil' douchy myself, but I am going to go ahead and be cheeky and say that this thread has become "Do you even lift brah?" GAF vs Rest of GAF
Are all of them openly fans of a celebrity fitness? Then yeah, you have a point there.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
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Posing for a photo is narcissistic exhibitionism? This is Facebook we're talking about here. That's the entire point of the site, or of personal interaction on the entire internet if you want to go that far.
FalsettoVibe
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Thats what I want to know.
Dude Abides
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Or one blogger you found.
This is every fit thread. I mean, this is already morphing into FitGAF what with the "what I did in gym today" posts.
Kung Fu Jedi
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While I wouldn't necessarily say her clothes are "typical" they are also not uncommon. I live in a warm weather city and see women dressed like that out running all the time.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
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There's not much you can say when people blurt out that getting in shape requires unrealistic commitment like hours a day and thousands of dollars.
Johnny Cage In The Shower
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Hehe yeah, well it's a good thing I stay way form those threads then.
Price Dalton
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Greater productivity with the same hours is another way to say "increased stress." Chronic psychosocial stress is a huge contributor to increased body fat via chronic cortisol, which breaks down muscle tissue and predisposes the body to store abdominal fat.
Not disagreeing, just adding another environmental stimulus with massive epigenetic effects (even transgenerational ones).
I'm learning more and more than sometimes....people just HATE people who are fit and in shape, no matter how they are portraying themselves.
My friends don't do it in anger or with contempt, but they always bring up the fact that I can eat whatever I want without gaining any weight. ALL THE TIME. "You can eat all that, and I have to watch what I eat. I hate you." Before class, I am usually eating something from McDonald's/Burger King and they're eating some disgusting, tasteless health food. So this subconsciously stopped me from eating fast food in front of them on certain days.
I'm not flaunting my fitness (or showing off) in front of them, but they make it seem like I am. I'm definitely not trying to offend them. And that's the impression that I'm getting from the picture in the OP.
My friends don't do it in anger or with contempt, but they always bring up the fact that I can eat whatever I want without gaining any weight. ALL THE TIME. "You can eat all that, and I have to watch what I eat. I hate you." Before class, I am usually eating something from McDonald's/Burger King and they're eating some disgusting, tasteless health food. So this subconsciously stopped me from eating fast food in front of them on certain days.
I've been fit-shamed! lol
I'm not flaunting my fitness (or showing off) in front of them, but they make it seem like I am. I'm definitely not trying to offend them. And that's the impression that I'm getting from the picture in the OP.
Because the two are synonymous with each other? Also why can't she both "want to encourage and motivate people to exercise" AND "be happy and proud of her success and wish to show it to the world"? There's nothing wrong here. Only if you see her body as an attack on yourself, than would you feel insecure and be angry. If you're insecure, than fix the shit your insecure with. You can't place your insecurities away from yourself in order to blame other people who aren't doing anything harmful. Take responsibility for yourself instead of focusing hate on someone else who isn't in any way doing anything bad.
Also quit fucking judging people on what they decide to wear when working out, jesus people like you are the worst. Just be you and let her be her, quit trying to bring someone down on account "well gee I just don't like what she's wearing" and move on with your life and not give a shit.
I see it all the time at my gym. Anecdotal both ways, so let's try something else.
As you can see (I even circled them for you) these are not some outlandish outfits that are limited to a select few underground workout dungeons. Feel free to go browse Amazon (Women's Clothing > Active) and you'll see the same thing.
1) She's characterized as a hot mom because she has kids and is attractive. Neither of those changes if she is in the middle of doing squats or is wearing 3 layers of clothing.
2) Again, just because you see it that way does not make it the truth. If you see it that way, fine. Just don't presume that everyone else does (or should) see it that way.
Are you post shaming? For shame!
What?!
Well yeah, she's showing off how fit she is, which is the result of consistent exercise, which she manages to do despite having three kids, no nanny and a busy job.
Showing her exercising one time isn't as valuable as showing the result of exercising lots of times.
Narcissistic exhibitionism is ridiculous hyperbole. She's worked hard for a good body, and is showing it off as something that is achievable. I find it motivational.
Dude Abides
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Where are the booty shorts on that page? I doubt if she was wearing a sweatshirt and sweatpants anyone would have called her "hot mom."
No, they are not synonymous.
Also, take a breath and try to read for comprehension instead of outrage, Mr. Angry. The only dispute here as far as I'm concerned is whether that picture conveys "What's your excuse [for not looking like me]?" or "What's your excuse [for not exercising]?" My argument is the choice of clothing for that particular picture - not for working out, that's kind of the point - suggests the latter more than the former.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
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OrlanisWorks
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There are obviously several ways to view this image. Overall, it seems a bit like an insult to those who don't exercise, but I think that is perfectly fine.
See it as a slap in the face to people out of shape, or see it as an optimistic picture that anybody can get fit and feel better about themselves through hard work. It's up to the viewer.
27 pages of arguments over this picture is pretty great.
See it as a slap in the face to people out of shape, or see it as an optimistic picture that anybody can get fit and feel better about themselves through hard work. It's up to the viewer.
27 pages of arguments over this picture is pretty great.
No, it isn't fine. I mean, yeah, if she was just trying to incite debate and discussion then the picture is great. But this isn't contemporary art or political satire. Obesity is a real problem that requires a solution and the only thing this picture accomplishes is further polarizing the two sides when we need integration and understanding.
Did you even look at the image? Here, I'll point them out with big red arrows. I even missed a few the first time.
Johnny Cage In The Shower
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You should copy and paste this on her facebook "fan" page so I could go there and hit the "Like" button on it.
All jokes aside, great post!
Exactly. Obesity may be more complicated than just eating excess calories, but it still comes down to food choices and physical activity. There is an issue of willpower because obese people are choosing crap food over nutritious food, though it's understandable that financial and geographic factors make access to nutritious food more difficult for some people.
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