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How a 16-year-old Canadian girl took down Milo Yiannopoulos
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Lord Error
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Are you serious, lol?
indigo lily
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We often follow American politics more so than our own.
Edit: ^^^
still hoping that more will pay attention to our own so we don't end up with a version of America's orange nightmare
DJ_Lae
Member
Especially when it's infinitely more interesting/frightening.
It's sort of telling that the biggest story about Trudeau in the past few weeks was him answering an English question in French.
I wish America could go back to this, I miss when I didn't dread the news.
Angelus Errare
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That's more than the liberal fools who argued that he should be given a platform because "freedum of speesch" and other remedial arguments.
Except Bill Maher wasn't trying to do anything "against" Milo vs giving him a platform to speak on. Even on his latest broadcast, he spent a few minutes talking about what happened to "poor guy" Milo with his panel but went out of his way to avoid discussing what Milo said in the clip "Julia" found while pushing the panel into discussing how not allowing Milo to speak is why Liberals lost the election.
Yeah i wouldn't have come forward, no one want Gamer Gate problems.
I got to laugh that her and her family did it out of concern for the The Right. If only folks on the left had that much care in them
andthebeatgoeson
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Why is Pam Anderson's tits moving? So much for the tolerant left.
Have you never watched Baywatch?
16 year old conservative accomplishes in days what liberals spent years trying to do.
I have to laugh to keep from crying.
i dont even know what's happening in canada and im canadian
I only know Canada from Corner Gas and The ArtifulDetective
oneils
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She's Canadian. Fiscal conservatism means something much different, here, than what it means according to GOP.
I feel like basing your political views off your personal anecdotal experiences is a fundamentally flawed way of thinking.
excelsiorlef
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And was smart enough to know that she needed a conservative media group to take him down... sadly
I feel like by that point I was an atheist libertarian, stereotypical as it sounds. I've since become a lot better informed and developed my thinking a bunch, to the point where I wouldn't really call myself a libertarian anymore, and I definitely don't care about religion much anymore. But overall the values that might have lead me to those viewpoints remained mostly the same.
I suspect she's not really a libertarian either, but would fit in better with a certain emerging faction of the centre-right that doesn't really have a label yet but is trying to reclaim "neoliberal".
Anyway, if anyone here is a Canadian over the age of 14, please consider joining the Conservative Party of Canada before March 28 so you can vote in the leadership election in May. Help us save what remains of the Progressive Conservative party, please and thank you.
4-d chess
One that wasn't so low they a joke, and one that wasn't so big they ignore it.
Her screen name should be Goldilocks for finding one just right
Messofanego
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This 16 year old girl is smarter on this topic than most of us us 20+ oldies.
I see Milo as this embodiment of the awfulness you see over the past few years with the general tilt of millennial conservatism...Its diverged from this traditional conservatism so much. Youve seen it essentially become full of awfulness and all about attacking the left and not about actual principles. It has nothing to do with conservative ideology so much as it has with opposing the leftists, SJWs, and so on and so forth.
Hed be more accurately described as anti-liberal than he would be conservative.
Hopefully theyll realize that you cant keep being this reactionary movement if you can even call it that. You cant just keep looking for enemies to attack and pointing the finger. Eventually, you have to stand up for something.
I see Milo as this embodiment of the awfulness you see over the past few years with the general tilt of millennial conservatism...Its diverged from this traditional conservatism so much. Youve seen it essentially become full of awfulness and all about attacking the left and not about actual principles. It has nothing to do with conservative ideology so much as it has with opposing the leftists, SJWs, and so on and so forth.
Hed be more accurately described as anti-liberal than he would be conservative.
Hopefully theyll realize that you cant keep being this reactionary movement if you can even call it that. You cant just keep looking for enemies to attack and pointing the finger. Eventually, you have to stand up for something.
She didnt think shed have much luck spreading the news herself with her small Twitter following, so she contacted a conservative outlet to get the story out. She figured a liberal outlet would have less credibility among CPAC followers.
She landed on the previously not-very-well-known conservative blog Reagan Battalion, which, after a bit of back and forth, tweeted out the video leading not just to CPAC canceling Yiannopouloss speech, but to Simon & Schuster pulling his already controversial book deal and his resignation from Breitbart.
She landed on the previously not-very-well-known conservative blog Reagan Battalion, which, after a bit of back and forth, tweeted out the video leading not just to CPAC canceling Yiannopouloss speech, but to Simon & Schuster pulling his already controversial book deal and his resignation from Breitbart.
It's something being discussed in Canadian right-leaning circles. Recently its come up because of the reaction of certain right-wingers to a Parliamentary motion to denounce Islamophobia.
Harper tried to build a big tent party. His successors are burning it down.
The Tories approach a point of no return: This week's debate over ‘Islamophobia' highlights the need for the Tories to root out the fringe forces rapidly dumbing down their party
Hysteria from Conservatives over harmless motion on Islamophobia
Of course at this point Andrew Coyne is apparently on the far-left if certain internet commentators are to be believed, so maybe all hope is lost.
You Are Viewtiful
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When will you?
She is in her own words, very socially left leaning. She isn't a conservative just because she has some right leaning ideas on economics.
I think social conservatism is largely dead in the youth, at least in so far as the major issues of the previous decade go. Maybe new issues will come up this generation will be socially conservative about, but until then, at some point we're gonna have to stop using it as some sort of pre-req for the conservative label.
The Liberal party in Canada is also right leaning on economics, and so are the Democrats. When I hear "Conservative", it's usually in regards to social policies.
gutter_trash
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false
the Liberal Party is Centrist on economics.
The Lefty-Left have the bad habbit of labeling everyone else as "Conservative" which is disengnous
Sho_Nuff82
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Moral exhibitionism is a great description.
The GOP trotting out Tea partiers in their primaries was largely this. Have people react to the extreme fringes, prop up a relatively moderate candidate, then paint liberals as attacking party straw men.
The Trump election cycle was such a complete status change that it took both sides by surprise. Now, no matter what extreme thing he said, party loyalty was measured by your ability to look the other way and laugh off accusations that it made him unqualified.
Milo, like Ms Coulter, was celebrated for his ability to churn out liberal disgust, even without worthwhile political views. Now that they have the power they wanted for the past 8 years, Milo and his ilk are little more than a sideshow inconvenience to succeeding in their real political goals.
excelsiorlef
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She played the political game to a tee damn.
Trudeau has swung it back. But the Liberal Party under Chretien and Martin were center-right economically.
gutter_trash
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after H.W. Bush, Major and Mulroney... Canada, the US and the UK then switched to a 3rd Way on cleaning up after the previous Conservative governments.
Chretien-Martin, Clinton, Blair
it was a reaction to dig the West out of the recession hole the the Right dumped the Western world into
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Chretien and Martin were the only Prime Ministers who ever recorded consecutive Surpluses.
Past Liberal Prime Ministers such as St-Laurent, Pearson and P. Trudeau were stereotypical spending Liberals.
Chretien was the first to buck the trend
20cent
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That's the most misogynistic and patronizing expression that I keep seeing in comments to threads reporting stories about something a female person said or did.
Even then, your typical Canadian conservative is socially far to the left of American conservatives. Once social issues are settled on a national level, like gay marriage and multiculturalism in decades past, they're considered off the table for discussion. Aside from the occasional far-right idiot who wants to stir things up, of course. In American politics, things like that are never considered settled.
Canadian politics is comically moderate, besides the recent right-wing populism, when compared to batshit US politics, but I don't think that's really true.
It's true that all of the parties have come to support free trade (although the NDP's support has been very tepid...), and they all preach the virtue of balanced budgets, with the exception of the Liberals in the last election. But they all have different views on the extent and manner of government intervention and influence in the economy.
The Conservatives believe things will work themselves out if there are good conditions in place. Generally they would prefer a lesser amount of regulation. Unfortunately all but one of the current leadership candidates aren't taking climate change seriously. But the one who is, Michael Chong, proposes a very conservative and market-oriented solution. A revenue neutral carbon tax of $130 per tonne while reducing environmental regulations, so as to create incentive to reduce emissions while allowing the market to find the most efficient ways to reduce emissions. That said, most of the party is super against carbon taxation, but I hope conservatives will come around on it. On the matter of income supplementation, Harper introduced the Working Income Tax Benefit to boost the incomes of those making between 3 and 18 thousand dollars a year, with the max benefit being paid to those earning between 7 and 11.5 thousand dollars a year. It's a conservative version of basic income, but intended to encourage people to work, and help people not get stuck in welfare traps. Although maybe he was a bit stingy with the amount of the WITB. Chong has proposed doubling it.
The Liberals are also actually pretty pro-market. But they don't mind regulation, and certainly they would never support the reductions in environmental regulations Chong is proposing. They do support, and have introduced, carbon taxation. Although they aren't particularly interested in it being revenue neutral. And while Harper did perform deficit stimulus spending, he would consider that an emergency response, and would want to balance the budget once things are back to normal. The current Liberals though, are quite fine with deficit spending even now that things have stabilized. On the matter of income supplementation their platform calls for an unconditional basic income, and there are pilot programs testing it underway.
I don't know nearly as much about the NDP's policies. But generally they're much less trusting of markets and more supportive of more direct market interventions.
skullmuffins
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I think this is the first time I've seen anyone make this association with the phrase "you go girl".
boredandlazy
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I feel sorry for any 16 year old female Canadian ex-pat named Julia. A lot of people will be too dumb to realise it's a pseudonym.
CalamityPixel
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Thank fuck they made her anon, good jouralism on her part.
Actually, the very first principle of the CPC, as per its constitution, declares "A belief in a balance between fiscal accountability, progressive social policy and individual rights and responsibilities". They've left themselves some room there for interpretation, but these are the principles that you have to actively support to be a member of the party. No I don't think they're really as socially progressive as everyone else, but this is Canada, and social conservatism loses elections.
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