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[Panajev2001a]

The whole idea behind it is to protect the children and this system makes it a lot harder to add people to your list. Hence, kids will be considerably less likely to add someone they don't know (and have that person add them).

A two way process: I add you if you give me your code, but then I have to also give you my code in order for you to add me. This way a child cannot add someone they do not know that might harm them... while with LIVE you can get a Friend Invite and not know if he IS your friend or not and be molested.. those kids, the ones who need help setting up their DS WFC settings (to make DS, Xbox 360, PSP, etc... all co-exist in the same WiFi LAN segment gives some headaches to many people here ), that require good supervision and guidance, they are the same kids a parent should NOT give them thier Xbox 360 and think LIVE is their new nanny.

Once the KID is 15-16 year old, if your only hope as a parent is that a backwardly implemented code-system is what will shield your child from the outside dangerous world, well there are problems.

Sorry for the rant, but I find these paternalistic kind of regulations to be unuseful for their primary purpose and annoyingly restrictive and clunky for the people outside of their cushioned demographic playing the game.

 

[Gahiggidy]

A two way process: I add you if you give me your code, but then I have to also give you my code in order for you to add me. This way a child cannot add someone they do not know that might harm them... while with LIVE you can get a Friend Invite and not know if he IS your friend or not and be molested.. those kids, the ones who need help setting up their DS WFC settings (to make DS, Xbox 360, PSP, etc... all co-exist in the same WiFi LAN segment gives some headaches to many people here ), that require good supervision and guidance, they are the same kids a parent should NOT give them thier Xbox 360 and think LIVE is their new nanny.

Once the KID is 15-16 year old, if your only hope as a parent is that a backwardly implemented code-system is what will shield your child from the outside dangerous world, well there are problems.

Sorry for the rant, but I find these paternalistic kind of regulations to be unuseful for their primary purpose and annoyingly restrictive and clunky for the people outside of their cushioned demographic playing the game.

So, you agree with Nintendo??

 

[Panajev2001a]

So, you agree with Nintendo??

Kinda.... sort of... NO .

 

[fallout]

Sorry for the rant, but I find these paternalistic kind of regulations to be unuseful for their primary purpose and annoyingly restrictive and clunky for the people outside of their cushioned demographic playing the game.

::grin::

You're kind of branching off into another topic entirely (something I tend to do when discussing youth/parenting myself), but everything you've said makes perfect sense.

Now, I didn't say that Nintendo's implementation was a good idea. I think it's inherently broken through it's limited nature. Still though, it is the reason why they're doing it, regardless of how stupid we all find it. I wasn't shocked when I heard about them banning people at their own forums (or at least, threatening to) for sharing friend codes. They're being stubborn, and I'm not sure if it's the legal department, the marketing division, or who's on their ass about it.

On top of that, it's still all really backwards, considering the number of penis-related/vulgar decals I've seen online in Mario Kart, heh.

 

[Monk]

Taker...

Its not about the functionality that caused these design choices, its the fact that they (Nintendo) dont want to get into trouble with parents for their kids getting raped by pedophiles.

What nintendo is doing is going to the extreme and being a bunch of retards.

Perhaps registering online at nintendo to check what age you are and splitting the 16- year olds and the 17+ qould do the trick?

 

[Deleted member 1235]

All of these complaints are related to Mario Kart DS and have nothing to do with Nintendo WiFi as a whole. Keep in mind that they just started and it will get better with time.

Actually, the lobby system and the friend code things I don't think are really just mario kart problems.

Also, nobody has mentioned this yet but I think the system might be sort of geared better towards japanese gamers.I remember reading about japanese people getting nervous about meeting people and talking to them online etc. Anyone know if thats true?

 

[TheJesusFactor]

They should at least change the Friend Code system into something that is eaiser to remember. A Screen Name of some kinda using Alpha Numerics would be better than just numbers. At least that way, I don't have to write a friend code down on a piece of paper everytime.

I think the way Nintendo is implementing the system kinda defeats the purpose of going online with games. One of the biggest advantage of taking a game online is to develop community with players that equally enjoys the game. This method prevents that and makes playing online almost liking playing single player.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Its not about the functionality that caused these design choices, its the fact that they (Nintendo) dont want to get into trouble with parents for their kids getting raped by pedophiles.

They still could, frivolous lawsuits can still start... in the hope of protecting their system from all evil they crippled it (and they know it does not work as it does the ESRB and all other industry bodies: "Online Experience Might Vary" or something like that is IMHO another layer of tinfoil around their butts and it is present in basically every Online Enabled console game) .

Perhaps registering online at nintendo to check what age you are and splitting the 16- year olds and the 17+ qould do the trick?

People can lie, it is like protecting a porn site with a question about your date of birth alone IMHO .