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How do you think about tipping and circumcision?

macfoshizzle

macfoshizzle

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Recently went to dinner with a buddy and the service was really bad. The level of how bad it was is subjective. I suggested to leave a dollar to make a point. My friend wanted to leave at least 10% for their service. I said “what service?” If I’m leaving a restaurant feeling upset when I paid money for their food and service then the concept of tipping thrown out. What do you guys think?
 
StreetsofBeige

StreetsofBeige

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Not a fan of it, but depending where you live (US and Canada tipping is a big thing) you typically got to go with the flow or else servers and friends think youre cheap.

My brother's example back in the 90s was the best. He gave $0 tip on the CC bill because he wanted to be a nice guy and leave cash tip in tray. When the server took the CC tray away to process, he came back and demanded a tip. My bro told him he was going to leave it in cash when he returned the tray. Based on the debacle, my bro told him him off and left $0.

That's the kind of entitlement you get.

I've worked as both a busboy and a server back in the early 90s and NEVER believe any server trying to tell you they are broke and make bad money. I worked at a normal family restaurant (not even a high end place or a super busy club) and when you factor in tips, you make a lot more money than people think. But every server will say their restaurant hourly wage is $1 less than standard min wage, so if a Walmart dude makes $10/hr, a server will say he or she is even broker because they make only $9/hr.

A server will try to convince the world nobody tips, every tipper is cheap tossing them $1.50, and all customers are grouchy assholes. Untrue. So pity them and tip big. The trend here in Canada is the CC terminals having default tip amounts of 20% and more. One place was 22%, 25%, 28%. I forget which place that was. The standard tip is 15%, but on those handheld terminals, they all start at minimum15% now, where it's usually options of 15, 18, 20, or 20, 22, 25. Something in that kind of range.

My best paying job during high school/university were those jobs. Even the busboy job I made around $12/hr after tips factored in. My server job I was pulling in probably $25/hr. And this was 30 years ago. Only problem with these jobs is you work dinner/evening hours killing your social life on weekends and if you dont do a double shift during lunch (I never did), you wont get 8 hrs worth of pay. My dinner shift hours were 5 to 10 pm. So 6 hours.

It's not a hard job either. It's actually easy. The "hardest" part isnt actually hard. It's just more of a fast paced hassle where it might be jammed and you got to run around getting food, drinks or the bill. It's not like you're building rockets here or even cooking food or mixing drinks. You're basically a messenger, not a builder.

I'd say the "hardest" part was setting up baby chairs because we had some sketchy ones which looked like they were going to break (they never did as they are probably sturdier than I think) and youre always thinking in the back of your mind if the baby chair will fall or break.
 
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InfiniteCombo

InfiniteCombo

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Good question. In general we Americans should catch up with the rest of the world and somehow get rid of this tipping practice. But, while it's still around, it's... situational:

(1) If it's a sit down place where I'm actively being served, the absolutely minimum is 10%, and 10% only if the service is absolutely horrendous (in which case I'd actually talk to the waiter/waitress myself, and bring their shitty service to their attention). 15-18% for average service, and if the service is good, 20% minimum.
(2) If you're just pouring a cup of coffee to me over the counter at a coffee shop, you ain't gettin' one goddamn cent. The coffee is already expensive enough as it is. These machines all now have tipping options, but I choose the "custom" option and leave... $0.00.
(3) If the coffee drink at a coffee shop or an alcoholic drink at a bar requires manual labor from the barista/bartender, then I tip them nicely. Extra nicely if they're a cocktail "mixologist" because they're usually very, very good at what they do.

TL;DR: I like to reward good work. I don't like to reward mediocre/bad work.
 
I collect VHS tapes

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During COVID I tip 20% for normal/typical service and 25-30% for exceptional service

Pre COVID I was doing 15%/20-25%

I can count on one hand the amount of times I’ve had service so bad I felt compelled to leave a tip under 15%. Maybe I’m just lucky.

Edit: this is for sit down dining. Coffee I typically toss a couple bucks if they’re making a latte. Take out I did not tip pre COVID but tip 15% during COVID

Lockdown is pretty much over here so I plan on returning to me pre COVID tipping pretty soon.
 
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StreetsofBeige

StreetsofBeige

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InfiniteCombo said:
(2) If you're just pouring a cup of coffee to me over the counter at a coffee shop, you ain't gettin' one goddamn cent. The coffee is already expensive enough as it is. These machines all now have tipping options, but I choose the "custom" option and leave... $0.00.
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That's a relatively recent trend too.

Tip options on a CC terminal were historically for sit down restaurants. Then at some point even some fast food kinds of places do it. Why the fuck would I tip a taco combo?

At least McDonalds doesn't have the gall to do that...... at least not yet.
 
V1LÆM

V1LÆM

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i don't tip. i don't agree with it. i'm in the UK and tipping isn't a big thing here. restaurants and hotels are about the only places where people tip. taxis take tips too but they can chase themselves.

pay your workers a fair wage instead of having them rely on the generosity of customers. i hate if i go somewhere, pay for their services, and have someone stand about waiting for more money and get pissy when you don't give them anything. don't get fucking mad at me get mad at your employer.

i very rarely ever go to restaurants but when i do i maybe leave a few pound. i don't whip out a calculator and figure out the percentage. you get a few pound, whatever change i have, and that's it. if i order online then i also pay online. if i pay with cash i've had people literally begging at my door or getting cheeky with me. fuck off and take it up with the restaurant.

other than that the only times i've tipped are when i've been in the US. what a fucking joke it is over there. it's stupid that you need to figure out how much you need for a product/service and then add more money into it. first time i went i was already $25 down just getting to my hotel and that's on top of what i paid for the taxi and hotel. taxi wanted $5 and some random guy who grabbed my bags off me at the hotel wanted $20 for carrying them to and from a lift. hey if i was making $20 for 10 mins "work" i'd probably not be complaining.

tipping is fucked and i hate it. i'm not tipping you unless you really go above and beyond. doing the basics of your job (bringing me food, or driving your car) or carrying a suitcase into a lift is not going above and beyond. it's a joke.
 
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StreetsofBeige

StreetsofBeige

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billyxci said:
i don't tip. i don't agree with it. i'm in the UK and tipping isn't a big thing here. restaurants and hotels are about the only places where people tip. taxis take tips too but they can chase themselves.

pay your workers a fair wage instead of having them rely on the generosity of customers. i hate if i go somewhere, pay for their services, and have someone stand about waiting for more money and get pissy when you don't give them anything. don't get fucking mad at me get mad at your employer.

i very rarely ever go to restaurants but when i do i maybe leave a few pound. i don't whip out a calculator and figure out the percentage. you get a few pound, whatever change i have, and that's it. if i order online then i also pay online. if i pay with cash i've had people literally begging at my door or getting cheeky with me. fuck off and take it up with the restaurant.

other than that the only times i've tipped are when i've been in the US. what a fucking joke it is over there. it's stupid that you need to figure out how much you need for a product/service and then add more money into it. first time i went i was already $25 down just getting to my hotel and that's on top of what i paid for the taxi and hotel. taxi wanted $5 and some random guy who grabbed my bags off me at the hotel wanted $20 for carrying them to and from a lift. hey if i was making $20 for 10 mins "work" i'd probably not be complaining.

tipping is fucked and i hate it. i'm not tipping you unless you really go above and beyond. doing the basics of your job (bringing me food, or driving your car) or carrying a suitcase into a lift is not going above and beyond. it's a joke.
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As crazy as it seems, there's places in Canada you can order food online for pick up (order directly or use Skip the Dishes for pick up service) where there's a line for tipping even though you are picking it up yourself at the front counter.

Also, I dont know what it's like in the UK, but just about every variety store and gas station have "tip jars". So expectation is if you pay cash to buy candy or gas, you dump in loose change into the jar if you want to.

Anything for a buck.
 
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InfiniteCombo

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StreetsofBeige said:
That's a relatively recent trend too.
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Yes.... yes it is. And an annoying one, too.

At some places I've gone to, the person serving me looks at me while I'm doing the tipping part at the credit card terminal. As in: "You're tipping me, right?" Again, if it's a basic service that takes no effort on their part, my answer is usually "no" :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
BigBooper

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Don't like it, but I do it. I'm not going to do something silly like tipping a barber who's already charging me $20 to buzz my head. I tip waiters at least 10% unless they were completely horrible. Usually I go 15-20%. Waiters and taxi drivers are pretty much the only ones I tip.

I don't get food delivered and I'm certainly not going to tip the person taking my money at a take out counter. "You did such a good job of taking my money so here have some more."
 
nush

nush

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I always tipped sex workers (Real ones, not Ethots) if they are pleasant and meet the baseline standard of service. 30% because that's what cut the house tends to take. If they give "Well you got to stick it in didn't ya?" service. Nothing.

Damn right those you tipp looked after you much better on repeat visits.

I only tip in restaurants in America, nowhere else I've been has that social pressure to do so.
 
StreetsofBeige

StreetsofBeige

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InfiniteCombo said:
LMAO yeah I got really confused. Did the thread title get changed?

Funny regardless.
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Ya, I was wondering that too. I thought it was a tipping thread, made some posts and then it said cock chopping(?). Was wondering if I posted too fast to see the full thread title. LOL
 
Nobody_Important

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“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
bitbydeath said:
What about just the tip?
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M1chl

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20% tips said in this thread are absolutely insane... There is no way that food carrying is worth anything even close to that.

I hate the tipping culture, never controbuted towards it and basically all i do is leave few coins, so I would not have that heavy wallet. From all that metal.

Also circumsicion outside of very dire medical reason should have been unlawful. Sadly it's a men's issues, thus nobody really cares. It's a genital mutilation plain and simple.
 
mxbison

mxbison

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Tipping:
I don't mind tipping for good service, but it's ridiculous how you're pretty much paying part of the salary (which you're already paying with the food price).

Circumcision:
Do what you want with your dick, but leave your child's dick the fuck alone. Not even gonna comment on the weird ass spectacle some cultures make out of it....
 
V1LÆM

V1LÆM

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StreetsofBeige said:
As crazy as it seems, there's places in Canada you can order food online for pick up (order directly or use Skip the Dishes for pick up service) where there's a line for tipping even though you are picking it up yourself at the front counter.

Also, I dont know what it's like in the UK, but just about every variety store and gas station have "tip jars". So expectation is if you pay cash to buy candy or gas, you dump in loose change into the jar if you want to.

Anything for a buck.
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that's silly lol

here we don't tip in stores or petrol stations. some shops have charity boxes you can stick change in and petrol stations sometimes have a little cup of change but that's like if i put in £19.98 of petrol and have a £20 note. i'm not standing about for 2p change lol. also i think it works the other way...if someone puts in £20.02 and only has a £20 note then the cashier will take 2p out the cup towards the total.
 
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Bojji

Bojji

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nush said:
I always tipped sex workers (Real ones, not Ethots) if they are pleasant and meet the baseline standard of service. 30% because that's what cut the house tends to take. If they give "Well you got to stick it in didn't ya?" service. Nothing.

Damn right those you tipp looked after you much better on repeat visits.

I only tip in restaurants in America, nowhere else I've been has that social pressure to do so.
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I never repeated my visits so never thought about tipping. But during ~12 years of using this kind of service i only met 2 woman that i wouldn't reccomend to anyone. Both were good looking and fucking was ok but their attitude was just awful.
 
Fbh

Fbh

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Tipping:
In places where it's truly optional and not expected it's fine. Nothing wrong giving someone a bit extra if you feel like their service was exceptional.
But I hate tipping the way it works in many places where it's basically mandatory. Just make the food more expensive and pay your employees a decent wage. I already hate the 10% in my country, but the 20-30% you guys give in the USA seems insane.

Never really understood why they feel they deserve it either. In most places they'll say hi, take my order and bring me the food. Why should I give them a 20% tip but not to, say, the dude at the hardware store that will spend 15 minutes explaining the difference between 2 machines to me ? Or the Fedex driver who drove across town to bring me something? Or the dude at the butcher shop who made special cut for me or made me a good recommendation? or the cashier at the supermarket who scanned all my items?

circumcision:
Not sure how it's related but I guess as long as it's done professionally and hygienically I guess to each their own
 
StreetsofBeige

StreetsofBeige

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Fbh said:
Tipping:
In places where it's truly optional and not expected it's fine. Nothing wrong giving someone a bit extra if you feel like their service was exceptional.
But I hate tipping the way it works in many places where it's basically mandatory. Just make the food more expensive and pay your employees a decent wage. I already hate the 10% in my country, but the 20-30% you guys give in the USA seems insane.

Never really understood why they feel they deserve it either. In most places they'll say hi, take my order and bring me the food. Why should I give them a 20% tip but not to, say, the dude at the hardware store that will spend 15 minutes explaining the difference between 2 machines to me ? Or the Fedex driver who drove across town to bring me something? Or the dude at the butcher shop who made special cut for me or made me a good recommendation? or the cashier at the supermarket who scanned all my items?

circumcision:
Not sure how it's related but I guess as long as it's done professionally and hygienically I guess to each their own
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Long time ago it was 10%, then it creeped up tp 15%. Now many places expect 20%. Canada at least.

As for your examples of service based jobs getting tips or not getting tips, the reason for expected tips is because what you said. The wage given by the restaurant is so low (a restaurant worker will trend to min wage), expectation is customers cover higher wages by tipping. But a Fedex guy or garbageman getting paid $30/hr doesn't deserve anything because they make enough.
 
K

Kraz

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Overlap would be employment laws and consent? 12-14 with parental and 15 for own consent for employment. That could work for reasoning an age for self determined body modification within some tbd range that includes circumcision, piercings, tattoos, and things like that.
 
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GeorgioCostanzaX

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StreetsofBeige said:
Long time ago it was 10%, then it creeped up tp 15%. Now many places expect 20%. Canada at least.

As for your examples of service based jobs getting tips or not getting tips, the reason for expected tips is because what you said. The wage given by the restaurant is so low (a restaurant worker will trend to min wage), expectation is customers cover higher wages by tipping. But a Fedex guy or garbageman getting paid $30/hr doesn't deserve anything because they make enough.
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10% of the foreskin is reasonable 15 to 20% is genital mutilation ;)
 
TheInfamousKira

TheInfamousKira

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How do I think of it? I typically begin by picturing it, eyes closed, and then my brain just kind of takes the reigns.

What do I think of it? I dunno, I'd never tip someone for cutting parts of my body off, unless the tip was like...to get them to stop.
 
Batiman

Batiman

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Tips are bullshit but I will always tip until employers decide to pay them properly. I know I’m sort of helping the problem, but I ain’t gonna look like a cheap fuck because of it. I always have tips added in my mind before anything anyways so that never changes whatever plans I had.

Circumcision is barbaric and should be illegal. Blows my mind that this is still being done to children in today’s world.
 
Fbh

Fbh

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StreetsofBeige said:
Long time ago it was 10%, then it creeped up tp 15%. Now many places expect 20%. Canada at least.

As for your examples of service based jobs getting tips or not getting tips, the reason for expected tips is because what you said. The wage given by the restaurant is so low (a restaurant worker will trend to min wage), expectation is customers cover higher wages by tipping. But a Fedex guy or garbageman getting paid $30/hr doesn't deserve anything because they make enough.
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That just explains why waiters want to be tipped, not why I as a customer am expected to pay a premium for their service or why, unlike almost every other industry, the burden of ensuring that employees get paid a decent wage gets placed upon me and not the employer.
 
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