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How do you think about tipping and circumcision?

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
That just explains why waiters want to be tipped, not why I as a customer am expected to pay a premium for their service or why, unlike almost every other industry, the burden of ensuring that employees get paid a decent wage gets placed upon me and not the employer.
I dont think there really is a good reason, except it's embedded as a societal norm for certain jobs to get tips so you go with the flow.

There's actually very few jobs that even involve tips, but some have a halo above them saying do it. A McDonalds worker hustling to make food or do cash register stuff as fast as possible during a lunch time rush has society expectations of $0 tips. But a server in a restaurant (no matter how busy or dead it is) is assumed in some counties to always get a tip.
 

Rbk_3

Member
Not a fan of it, but depending where you live (US and Canada tipping is a big thing) you typically got to go with the flow or else servers and friends think youre cheap.
Canada's system is a joke. In Ontario servers now make $15 an hour minimum and still expect 20% tips. Some machine's pre tipping options start at 20% now.
 
Yeah tipping sucks but I always do it. I donā€™t mind the opportunity to pay someone that did a good job more money, but the default expectation of a tip doesnā€™t make sense, and workers that receive them can get real entitled and shitty about what they think they deserve to get tipped. So ideally, tipping would be acceptable in many circumstances but never required.

Love the left field circumcision angle, we should have more two for one threads. Yeah its horrible, and the only people that advocate for it have had it done to them and probably donā€™t realize what theyā€™re missing. There was one person in here that said they got it done as an adult and it looks good and feels good. Well Iā€™m glad youā€™re happy with the cosmetics, but it is going to lead to decreased sensitivity and pleasure, which is part of the point if the procedure to begin with. Totally unnecessary, leads to accidentally chopping of a significant number of baby penises or infection from unnecessary cosmetic surgery on an infantā€™s sexual organs, could we just not?
 

Macattk15

Member
If service is punctual and they refill my drinks / come back to check if I need anything, then I will no problem give 20% tip.
 

Cyberpunkd

Member
Recently went to dinner with a buddy and the service was really bad. The level of how bad it was is subjective. I suggested to leave a dollar to make a point. My friend wanted to leave at least 10% for their service. I said ā€œwhat service?ā€ If Iā€™m leaving a restaurant feeling upset when I paid money for their food and service then the concept of tipping thrown out. What do you guys think?
Think about it this way:

In the US the real price of a meal is the bill + the tip. The restaurant is trying to guilt trip you so they can pay less to their employees.

Clear now?
 
What drives me nuts are those Square terminals where they turn that thing around for you to sign and has the pre 18% 20% button, and the person just watches you to make you guilty if you donā€™t tip
 

EverydayBeast

ChatGPT 0.1
the simpsons tips GIF
 

JayK47

Member
I was thinking about starting a similar thread actually. I am seeing more and more places with tip jars or online ordering that is suggesting it. I feel the only place to tip is a sit down restaurant with a server who takes your order, brings out your food, and refills drinks. Also, food delivery. But that was when the cost of delivery was the same as pickup. Around here, delivery fees for pizza can get up to $5, which they insist is not the tip. You are saving $10 picking it up yourself these days. If I am picking up, I am doing your job, so I do not want to tip. If they do curbside, maybe that is worth a small tip. I feel like it is becoming another entitlement. At a local carwash, they suggest a tip, and it starts at 15%. It is an automatic car wash. The person just helps guide you in. That is there job. They want a tip for that? It is really getting out of hand with tips for places with minimum wage employees with really easy jobs. As soon as they add the option for tips, I am sure they expect it and hate those who do not tip.
 

FunkMiller

Member
The minimum wage in the UK and Australia is decent, so tipping isnā€™t much of a pressure. Do it if you like, or donā€™t.

Itā€™s fucked up how low it is in some USA states.
 
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HoodWinked

Member
Tipping is like the micro transactions of restaurants.

Most people tip the average but some people tip well then there are cheapskates. The high tippers are like the whales which subsidize the majority of the revenue.

The math works out the way it does otherwise the restaurant wouldn't be solvent. Complaining about tipping is a mostly pointless shell game.

Without tipping pay $20 for your meal or with tipping pay $16 + $4 tip.
 

Boston

Member
I always tip 20% or more for good service when Iā€™m dining in but what about takeout? I feel since Covid everyone is tipping on takeout now. I never used to but I do now and feel weird not tipping for takeout. Anyone else?
 

lachesis

Member
These days, I'm little confused about tipping.
I mean, I rarely eat out these days - Pandemic, Small group of friends, currently not in the dating market after my divorce, and I rather invite my friends over for some cozy/hearty home cooked meals in private.... etc.

When I do eat outside food though - I go there and pick up and eat at home... but the card payment option/receipt usually come up with "how much tip".
If I'm being served at a table, yes I would gladly tip - but I'm just picking up! Why should I pay tip for my own delivery?

It really makes me feel bad/guilty when I press "no tips today"... but I know it takes a bit extra for the restaurant for the packing, so I usually give a buck or two in cash.
 

p_xavier

Authorized Fister
I dont think there really is a good reason, except it's embedded as a societal norm for certain jobs to get tips so you go with the flow.

There's actually very few jobs that even involve tips, but some have a halo above them saying do it. A McDonalds worker hustling to make food or do cash register stuff as fast as possible during a lunch time rush has society expectations of $0 tips. But a server in a restaurant (no matter how busy or dead it is) is assumed in some counties to always get a tip.
Expected tipped jobs have lower hourly wage than minimum wage. It's built in the system.
 

Mato

Member
Team #Cut. They just look better. I don't know about tipping and I don't understand this thread.
 

Ballthyrm

Member
Any body modification should be done on willing adults, no cutting of kids please.

As for Tipping, I see it as an endorsement of wages slavery.
Every time you tip, you vote to conserve this ridiculous unfair system that's totally unrelated to actual job performance
 

KrakenIPA

Member
This thread is as confusing as it is entertaining! I tip huge (comparatively), no matter the quality of service or product. Also my favorite scene of any Quinten Tarantino movie is the Reservoir Dogs cafe scene. If this thread was brunch I would tip OP like 35%.

I'm not cut and I'm not gonna get cut. My gals can just deal with it. You gotta admit the fact that hooded sweatshirts are waaay more comfortable than sweater vests.
 

Lunarorbit

Member
My thinking on tipping has evolved over the years and it's coming down heavy on not tipping anymore. Everywhere you buy something there's already preset buttons locked in to a tip %.

Get a coffee, where's my tip. Order delivery now it's a service fee that's not a tip. I don't do door dash or food delivery services but there's articles out there about how drivers won't even pick up the food if there isn't a tip.

In America it's gone way over board. The times I've actually been impressed with my service and would give a tip if tipping wasn't customary here are few and far between. Everyone thinks they are treated like shit at their job. Get over it. Food prices are out of control so I'm supposed to take another hit cause your boss is cheap as fuck?

I don't want to hear about your fucking margins. It sucks I'm sure.
 

OZ9000

Banned
i don't tip. i don't agree with it. i'm in the UK and tipping isn't a big thing here. restaurants and hotels are about the only places where people tip. taxis take tips too but they can chase themselves.

pay your workers a fair wage instead of having them rely on the generosity of customers. i hate if i go somewhere, pay for their services, and have someone stand about waiting for more money and get pissy when you don't give them anything. don't get fucking mad at me get mad at your employer.

i very rarely ever go to restaurants but when i do i maybe leave a few pound. i don't whip out a calculator and figure out the percentage. you get a few pound, whatever change i have, and that's it. if i order online then i also pay online. if i pay with cash i've had people literally begging at my door or getting cheeky with me. fuck off and take it up with the restaurant.

other than that the only times i've tipped are when i've been in the US. what a fucking joke it is over there. it's stupid that you need to figure out how much you need for a product/service and then add more money into it. first time i went i was already $25 down just getting to my hotel and that's on top of what i paid for the taxi and hotel. taxi wanted $5 and some random guy who grabbed my bags off me at the hotel wanted $20 for carrying them to and from a lift. hey if i was making $20 for 10 mins "work" i'd probably not be complaining.

tipping is fucked and i hate it. i'm not tipping you unless you really go above and beyond. doing the basics of your job (bringing me food, or driving your car) or carrying a suitcase into a lift is not going above and beyond. it's a joke.
Well said.

Food is already overpriced in most restaurants, why should I part with even more money?

Yes, I am a cheap bastard.
 

OZ9000

Banned
20% tips said in this thread are absolutely insane... There is no way that food carrying is worth anything even close to that.

I hate the tipping culture, never controbuted towards it and basically all i do is leave few coins, so I would not have that heavy wallet. From all that metal.

Also circumsicion outside of very dire medical reason should have been unlawful. Sadly it's a men's issues, thus nobody really cares. It's a genital mutilation plain and simple.
Circumcision reduces the risk of UTIs, balanitis and sexually transmitted infections though. It also looks better.
 
Tips are bullshit but I will always tip until employers decide to pay them properly. I know Iā€™m sort of helping the problem, but I ainā€™t gonna look like a cheap fuck because of it. I always have tips added in my mind before anything anyways so that never changes whatever plans I had.

Circumcision is barbaric and should be illegal. Blows my mind that this is still being done to children in todayā€™s world.
Why do you think it's "barbaric"? Literally has never affected my life
 

OZ9000

Banned
Tips are bullshit but I will always tip until employers decide to pay them properly. I know Iā€™m sort of helping the problem, but I ainā€™t gonna look like a cheap fuck because of it. I always have tips added in my mind before anything anyways so that never changes whatever plans I had.

Circumcision is barbaric and should be illegal. Blows my mind that this is still being done to children in todayā€™s world.
There is absolutely nothing barbaric about the removal of a small segment of SKIN.

The American Academy of Paediatrics states the benefits of circumcision are greater than the potential negatives.

I think I'd rather take scientific and medical fact over some random strangers feelings.
 

Batiman

Banned
There is absolutely nothing barbaric about the removal of a small segment of SKIN.

The American Academy of Paediatrics states the benefits of circumcision are greater than the potential negatives.

I think I'd rather take scientific and medical fact over some random strangers feelings.
Depends what science your following. And itā€™s not just skin. There were benefits back when we didnā€™t have access to running water and soap. Now itā€™s just unnecessary mutilation.

 
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OZ9000

Banned
Depends what science your following. And itā€™s not just skin. There were benefits back when we didnā€™t have access to running water and soap. Now itā€™s just unnecessary mutilation.

Male circumcision is a common procedure, generally performed during the newborn period in the United States. In 2007, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) formed a multidisciplinary task force of AAP members and other stakeholders to evaluate the recent evidence on male circumcision and update the Academyā€™s 1999 recommendations in this area. Evaluation of current evidence indicates that the health benefits of newborn male circumcision outweigh the risks and that the procedureā€™s benefits justify access to this procedure for families who choose it. Specific benefits identified included prevention of urinary tract infections, penile cancer, and transmission of some sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists has endorsed this statement.
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/130/3/585/30235/Circumcision-Policy-Statement

Can you please stop using the word mutilation. It does not apply here - it is a mere removal of foreskin. There are no major downsides to the removal of foreskin.
 
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/130/3/585/30235/Circumcision-Policy-Statement

Can you please stop using the word mutilation. It does not apply here - it is a mere removal of foreskin. There are no major downsides to the removal of foreskin.
Why do you think foreskin exists in the first place if itā€™s so unnecessary? It protects the glans from constant stimulation and exposure, itā€™s a very functional piece of anatomy. Most people like myself have had it surgically removed when we were a new born infant, completely helpless and innocent with no say in the matter. The hospital is happy to add it to the bill, and if they accidentally chop off a bigger part of the penis than intended they use a euphemism to imply its a birth defect. Itā€™s self evidently unnecessary and dare I say mutilation to take a perfect new born child and start cutting away the bits you donā€™t like. Stop perpetuating this horrific practice please.
 
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I have a Chinese takeout place nearby I frequent often that has a sign at their register that reads "tips for takeout are appreciated, especially for large orders". My typical order usually is about 11-12 dollars so I usually don't tip for goddamn takeout. I always pay with a debit card and they have it setup to where after they run the card you have to sign a slip which has an extra line to include a tip and then you write in the total.

One lady who frequently runs the register always gives off a shitty vibe whenever I don't tip (often). For example....after I sign the slip and don't write in a tip she just slides the food to me and doesn't say anything like a "Thanks" or "Have a nice day", I get nothing...maybe its paranoia. I do hate how tipping has become when goddamn takeout workers are now expecting a gratuity and treat me shitty or guilt trip me when I don't comply. I order takeout and pick it up myself to avoid delivery fees and tipping.

P.S. Team Cut
 
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OZ9000

Banned
Why do you think foreskin exists in the first place if itā€™s so unnecessary? It protects the glans from constant stimulation and exposure, itā€™s a very functional piece of anatomy. Most people like myself have had it surgically removed when we were a new born infant, completely helpless and innocent with no say in the matter. The hospital is happy to add it to the bill, and if they accidentally chop off a bigger part of the penis than intended they use a euphemism to imply its a birth defect. Itā€™s self evidently unnecessary and dare I say mutilation to take a perfect new born child and start cutting away the bits you donā€™t like. Stop perpetuating this horrific practice please.
As children and infants we have zero say in many matters. Nonetheless, circumcision is a safe procedure and there is good reason why two leading medical bodies endorse it.
 
As children and infants we have zero say in many matters. Nonetheless, circumcision is a safe procedure and there is good reason why two leading medical bodies endorse it.
Can you explain then why humans are born with foreskin? Is it possible human institutions may not know better than billions of years of evolution? We know where the idea of circumcision comes from, itā€™s a religious idea. Itā€™s not as if doctors had this great idea to perform cosmetic surgery on infants because it would improve their lives, itā€™s all backwards reaching for a justification for this weird religious practice with no foundation in science.

Youā€™re saying that infants donā€™t have a say in anything, yeah thatā€™s true thatā€™s why they need to be protected from having their genitals mutilated by well meaning idiots. If they want to do it as an adult, thatā€™s their choice. Electing to subject an infant to any other kind of cosmetic surgery would be rightly reviled, this is no different except the wide cultural acceptance. I donā€™t accept it and I wish people had some basic common sense compassion for the most vulnerable tiny humans among us, maybe donā€™t perform a traumatic surgical procedure to their genitals in their first few days on the earth.

Your appeal to experts doesnā€™t answer the question of basic human decency and respecting peopleā€™s own bodies, do you own your sonsā€™ bodies? The fucked up thing is I realized what was done to me and would never do that to an infant, but thereā€™s plenty of people who wonā€™t admit they were actually violated by the people who were supposed to protect them, then they go on to propagate the same violation on their own son so that their sonā€™s penis looks like their own. I believe itā€™s always done with good intentions and love, but thatā€™s what religion will get you, mutilating your newborn sonā€™s penis out of love.

Sorry for the rant, but this idea is so backwards I canā€™t keep my mouth shut whenever it creeps up.
 
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OZ9000

Banned
Can you explain then why humans are born with foreskin? Is it possible human institutions may not know better than billions of years of evolution? We know where the idea of circumcision comes from, itā€™s a religious idea. Itā€™s not as if doctors had this great idea to perform cosmetic surgery on infants because it would improve their lives, itā€™s all backwards reaching for a justification for this weird religious practice with no foundation in science.

Youā€™re saying that infants donā€™t have a say in anything, yeah thatā€™s true thatā€™s why they need to be protected from having their genitals mutilated by well meaning idiots. If they want to do it as an adult, thatā€™s their choice. Electing to subject an infant to any other kind of cosmetic surgery would be rightly reviled, this is no different except the wide cultural acceptance. I donā€™t accept it and I wish people had some basic common sense compassion for the most vulnerable tiny humans among us, maybe donā€™t perform a traumatic surgical procedure to their genitals in their first few days on the earth.

Your appeal to experts doesnā€™t answer the question of basic human decency and respecting peopleā€™s own bodies, do you own your sonsā€™ bodies? The fucked up thing is I realized what was done to me and would never do that to an infant, but thereā€™s plenty of people who wonā€™t admit they were actually violated by the people who were supposed to protect them, then they go on to propagate the same violation on their own son so that their sonā€™s penis looks like their own. I believe itā€™s always done with good intentions and love, but thatā€™s what religion will get you, mutilating your newborn sonā€™s penis out of love.

Sorry for the rant, but this idea is so backwards I canā€™t keep my mouth shut whenever it creeps up.
There are clear medical benefits to circumcision. It's far more hygienic and it helps avoid infection. It is not a traumatic surgical procedure and does not require a scalpel.
 

Liljagare

Member
There are clear medical benefits to circumcision. It's far more hygienic and it helps avoid infection. It is not a traumatic surgical procedure and does not require a scalpel.
This is complete and utter bullshit. Men with foreskin have a healthy amount of bacteria to help with infection, the difference is about 1%.

You are also cutting off about 10000 nerves, that provide the extra pleasure.

Circumcision is nothing but religious bullshit, and mutilation of male babies. I cannot fathom how this is still something that happens, and is allowed. Medically, it is the same as female mutilation. How is this accepted? Only religious fruitcakes perform this nowadays.

Circumsiced men, will never experience sex or orgasms, at the height they could have had with a intact foreskin.


Religious bullshit at it again.
 
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Liljagare

Member
Is it not what I consider major but a consensus by two leading medical authorities in America.

Two religously lead authorities in America.

And hey, you could always let the kid choose itself, by like saying, when you are 18 years old, you can choose to do this, instead of, hey, lets mutilate the baby penis, because our religion think that is what we should do.

I don't really see how people don't understand how this practice is, nothing but, baby male mutilation.
 
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