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How One 19-Year-Old Illinois Man Is Distorting National Polling Averages

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B-Dubs

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So you know how the LA Times poll has been saying something different than literally everyone else all cycle? It's turns out there's a reason...

There is a 19-year-old black man in Illinois who has no idea of the role he is playing in this election.

He is sure he is going to vote for Donald J. Trump.

And he has been held up as proof by conservatives — including outlets like Breitbart News and The New York Post — that Mr. Trump is excelling among black voters. He has even played a modest role in shifting entire polling aggregates, like the Real Clear Politics average, toward Mr. Trump.

How? He’s a panelist on the U.S.C. Dornsife/Los Angeles Times Daybreak poll, which has emerged as the biggest polling outlier of the presidential campaign. Despite falling behind by double digits in some national surveys, Mr. Trump has generally led in the U.S.C./LAT poll. He held the lead for a full month until Wednesday, when Mrs. Clinton took a nominal lead.

Our Trump-supporting friend in Illinois is a surprisingly big part of the reason. In some polls, he’s weighted as much as 30 times more than the average respondent, and as much as 300 times more than the least-weighted respondent.

Alone, he has been enough to put Mr. Trump in double digits of support among black voters. He can improve Mr. Trump’s margin by 1 point in the survey, even though he is one of around 3,000 panelists.

He is also the reason Mrs. Clinton took the lead in the U.S.C./LAT poll for the first time in a month on Wednesday. The poll includes only the last seven days of respondents, and he hasn’t taken the poll since Oct. 4. Mrs. Clinton surged once he was out of the sample for the first time in several weeks.

How has he made such a difference? And why has the poll been such an outlier? It’s because the U.S.C./LAT poll made a number of unusual decisions in designing and weighting its survey.

It’s worth noting that this analysis is possible only because the poll is extremely and admirably transparent: It has published a data set and the documentation necessary to replicate the survey.

Not all of the poll’s choices were bound to help Mr. Trump. But some were, and it all combined with some very bad luck to produce one of the most persistent outliers in recent elections.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/upshot/how-one-19-year-old-illinois-man-is-distorting-national-polling-averages.html

We have officially found the ONE African-american supporting Trump.
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Yeah, but this is and has been a garbage poll since the get go.

So, one man is skewing a garbage poll that never changed or adjusted its pool of respondents.
 

Binabik15

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I do wonder if Trump is aware of the real polling trends (and debate ratings, etc.) or if he's fed a highly curated and distorted diet of BS data from his "cybers"?

It'd be hilarious if a N-word tape comes out, this guy drops Trump and his numbers crater even more than they really should've thanks to it.
 

muteki

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Not sure I understand the value in political polls having weighted responses, but stats was in one ear out the other for me.
 
Yeah, but this is and has been a garbage poll since the get go.

So, one man is skewing a garbage poll that never changed or adjusted its pool of respondents.

Yea I mean 538 is still using it but even they said "look... there is logic behind their poll... but the end result/reality is totally bogus"
 

Allforce

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I do wonder if Trump is aware of the real polling trends (and debate ratings, etc.) or if he's fed a highly curated and distorted diet of BS data from his "cybers"?

If a guy like Romney could be so completely unaware and kept in a bubble in 2012 then surely it's possible with Trump. Romney was 100% positive he had won according to the numbers his team was feeding him, so much so that he didn't even write a concession speech for Election Day.
 
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