How Sony Learned to Cede Control to Marvel on 'Spider-Man: Homecoming'

YO WAIT THE FUCK DOWN: CARNAGE WILL BE ON "VENOM"? WHAT THE FUCK I DIDNT KNOW THAT. Oh dear Lord have mercy.
This article almost confirmed that Spidey will appear on Venom (maybe a post credits scene or a little cameo during the movie).
And this gaffer wants, no, NEEDS to Daredevil on Homecoming 2. But we all know that won't happen. Cap won't be since he'll finish his contract with Avengers 4 (and to be honest, I'd rather see Steve go with a fucking bang and never return rather than see him doing a cameo). Widow could be but I doubt it. Maybe I'm crazy but my money is on Rocket. Imagine that little fucker throwing savagery after savagery at Spidey?
 
You know what, I like the idea that Tom Holland's Spider-Man can be detached from the MCU if need be. Maybe we get a chance for him to crossover with some X-Men folks. Spider-Man is like the perfect character to do so too. The connective tissue between all these fucking universes.
 
You know what, I like the idea that Tom Holland's Spider-Man can be detached from the MCU if need be. Maybe we get a chance for him to crossover with some X-Men folks. Spider-Man is like the perfect character to do so too. The connective tissue between all these fucking universes.

A Fantastic Four / Spidey teamup might actually save the F4 franchise for Fox.
 
Sony potentially considering giving Mysterio and Kraven the Hunter their own spin-offs...

Sony potentially considering giving Mysterio and Kraven the Hunter their own spin-offs.

Sony potentially considering giving MYSTERIO and KRAVEN THE HUNTER their own spin-offs.
 
Sony potentially considering giving Mysterio and Kraven the Hunter their own spin-offs...

Sony potentially considering giving Mysterio and Kraven the Hunter their own spin-offs.

Sony potentially considering giving MYSTERIO and KRAVEN THE HUNTER their own spin-offs.

It will probably be the Mysterio from The Evil men do.
 
Sony will get a to-be-determined Marvel character for Spider-Man 2 like it received for Homecoming with the box-office monster Iron Man, played by Robert Downey Jr.

So they're going full Marvel Team-up with this new series of films. Eh, why not. Too bad they can't get the Human Torch though, I loved the Slott mini. And it won't be DD either, sigh...
 
Sony potentially considering giving Mysterio and Kraven the Hunter their own spin-offs...

Sony potentially considering giving Mysterio and Kraven the Hunter their own spin-offs.

Sony potentially considering giving MYSTERIO and KRAVEN THE HUNTER their own spin-offs.

Marvel be like

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cuz these characters don't need spinoffs
 
So they're going full Marvel Team-up with this new series of films. Eh, why not. Too bad they can't get the Human Torch though, I loved the Slott mini. And it won't be DD either, sigh...

It'll be funny if the main series becomes Marvel Team-Up and all of the spinoffs are the actual Spidey stories
 
I really don't want Sony's spinoffs to get made but it is what it is. I would prefer for villains like Kraven and Mysterio to appear in the main Spidey films not spinoffs.

UHHHHHHHHHHHH....

Sony potentially considering giving Mysterio and Kraven the Hunter their own spin-offs...

Sony potentially considering giving Mysterio and Kraven the Hunter their own spin-offs.

Sony potentially considering giving MYSTERIO and KRAVEN THE HUNTER their own spin-offs.

yeah what a mess

those guys need their own movies, since Sony ruined the rest of the rogues gallery
 
Is anyone REALLY surprised that Carnage was going to be the villain of the Venom movie? The only other villain I could assume would be featured is Sin Eater and that's maybe a bit too dark for audiences despite the R Rating.

The other stuff about potential Kraven and Mysterio movies is.....weird.

We are getting close to Cardiac on the silver screen

Nightwatch first!
 
Wait... did they just confirm that Carnage will be in the Venom movie? He cannot be the main bad guy that would be god damn horrible. Maybe make an appearance at the end to give a hint of whats to come in Venom 2 but not in the first god damn movie.
You got to prepare the audience for Carnage that mofo is a god damn lunatic.
 
Phase 4 - 6 symbiote villian build up story? Could actually work for a giant team up move for avengers 7, all the avengers fighting off a symbiote infested might be kind of fun. (I really just want to see a big screen version of Web of Shadows.)
 
Or in other words 'How Rothman schooled Marvel Studios in how to play the long game".

Once their deal/commitment to Marvel and Fiege is up Sony will simply take back Spidey from the MCU, removing him from that cinematic universe altogether, and will plug him into their own 'Sony-verse' (which they will fully control) and have him interact with the likes of Venom etc.

Rothman has zero intention of doing long term business with Marvel, the very fact that they are developing all these utterly redundant spin-offs and a wholly separate animated film shows that. That video of Fiege and Pascal shows that they are already at odds with one another.

The upside for Marvel/Disney is that they own the entirety of the merchandising and licensing rights to the Spider-Man character so if these 'Sony-verse' films are a huge hit they make all the money off the toys etc, not Sony.
 
Sony potentially considering giving Mysterio and Kraven the Hunter their own spin-offs...

Sony potentially considering giving Mysterio and Kraven the Hunter their own spin-offs.

Sony potentially considering giving MYSTERIO and KRAVEN THE HUNTER their own spin-offs.

Guys hear me out

superior foes of spider-man

featuring mysterio, kraven, shocker, Boomerang (cast the same guy as Suicide Squad) and rhino.

lord and miller directing
 
I have no issue with the Venom movie not being set in the MCU but I do hope it at least makes some sense and doesn't contradict the wider MCU unless it's crucial to the plot or would make the movie better. That way I can sort of fold it in to my head cannon.
 
It'll be funny if the main series becomes Marvel Team-Up and all of the spinoffs are the actual Spidey stories

That's almost certainly what's happening.

In fact, it may be smart for Sony. Let Marvel work their magic on the character, re-vitalize interest, and then Sony can cash in with sequels and spin-offs.
 
I have no issue with the Venom movie not being set in the MCU but I do hope it at least makes some sense and doesn't contradict the wider MCU unless it's crucial to the plot or would make the movie better. That way I can sort of fold it in to my head cannon.

I think it's either going to be a alternate universe like the idea they had for the silver sable movie. Or it's in the same universe, but it's only addressed in the Spider-Man movies and none of the other MCU movies.
 
Phase 4 - 6 symbiote villian build up story? Could actually work for a giant team up move for avengers 7, all the avengers fighting off a symbiote infested might be kind of fun. (I really just want to see a big screen version of Web of Shadows.)

Phases are dead after the fourth Avengers films pretty much.
 
The spinoffs are an absolutely horrific idea and I still don't fully believe Venom will actaully end up happening.
 
Ruffalo will still have one more film on his contract after Avengers 4. Maybe there'll be a Spidey/Hulk team up for a Homecoming 2. Banner can be his new science mentor.
 
As for the expansion plans, Tom Hardy is starring in Venom, dated for Oct. 5, 2018, which will also feature the villain Carnage.

Uhhhhhhhhhh

Is the Venom movie confirmed to be rated R? Live action Carnage could be insane.
 
dope idea

would be a good use of Mysterio too

Shit that could really work. Have Mysterio do loads of faux magic shit so Spidey goes and ask Strange for advice and Strange is like none of what Mysterio is doing is legit.

Babadook Canterbury would be way more affordable than RDJ I assume.
 
Ruffalo will still have one more film on his contract after Avengers 4. Maybe there'll be a Spidey/Hulk team up for a Homecoming 2. Banner can be his new science mentor.

I doubt any appearances in Sony's Spider-Man movies would count as a film in their Disney contract. My guess is that Robert's appearance in Spider-Man was a separate deal with Sony themselves, while Marvel Studios just produces it.
 
I doubt any appearances in Sony's Spider-Man movies would count as a film in their Disney contract. My guess is that Robert's appearance in Spider-Man was a separate deal with Sony themselves, while Marvel Studios just produces it.

I have really no way of knowing one way or the other. Downey did hash out a separate deal to be in Homecoming, but he also his contract limit years ago, so I can't tell from that. He had also renegotiated a new deal to appear in Civil War and, I assume, another separate re-up for Avengers 4.
 
what step of the thing is acceptance? i am there now

Shit that could really work. Have Mysterio do loads of faux magic shit so Spidey goes and ask Strange for advice and Strange is like none of what Mysterio is doing is legit.

Babadook Canterbury would be way more affordable than RDJ I assume.

right!

maybe have Black Panther visit America for some reason in SMH3 and have it be a Kraven movie

this shit writes itself
 
I can't tell the difference between Carnage and Venom. Someone explain it to me like I'm bronsonlee
 
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