How to deal with eating too much?

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Nickle

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Here's a very quick read on the topic:

http://www.zoeharcombe.com/standalone/1lb-does-not-equal-3500-calories/

Anyway, trying to treat weight loss (fat loss, really) as some kind of simple equation is a loser's game. No harm in knowing how many calories are in any given piece of food to get some basic direction, but the whole thing is hardly precise and the human body is a very complex system--it does not behave like calorimeter.
That's a pretty sketchy article.
 
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That's a pretty sketchy article.

Was really something I just grabbed after quickly reading. Which part was sketchy?

Metformin and glimepiride (sp?)

The second one stimulates insulin production and release, right?

A big release of insulin quickly driving down your blood sugar will definitely make you hungry.

Obviously don't make any changes to your medicine without consulting your doctor, but it might be worth discussing what your non-medicine based options are.
 

arigato

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For better digestion, how many times should I chew each bite? Silly question I know


I highly recommend IF too, but of course mileage may vary or everyone
50 chews at the minimum, and 150 chews if you're really sick or recovering from a bout with illness like the flu.
Chewing with your mouth open for extra oxygen to be carried down with your food is a good idea. But you may want to save that for when you're eating in private lol.
"Drink your food and chew your drink". Pinch of salt combined with lemon or lime juice can really help with digestion as well.
 

Nickle

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Was really something I just grabbed after quickly reading. Which part was sketchy?
She starts out by saying that you won't find any other health experts telling you the "truth" about calories.
 
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She starts out by saying that you won't find any other health experts telling you the "truth" about calories.

I can't find that part. What are you referring to?
 
Counting calories has worked wonders for me. At first it was really useful because it made it clear to me how much I was really eating. Then it helped me realize what foods were "worth" the calories. For example, having a soda really feels stupid when you get to the end of the day still hungry and realize that those 250 calories could have been food instead. And now I just keep doing it because it keeps me in check. There's no guesswork needed. Just stick to my allotted calories and I lose weight, simple.
 

GatorBait

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Figure out how much you need to eat to stay at your same weight.

Eat less than that. Many days in a row. Until you are at your goal weight.

In addition doing the above, you can also move more, if you want to reach your goal faster.
 

SMattera

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Exercise is great, but not a very effective tool for weight loss, unless you're doing something crazy like working out for 2-3 hours a day every day. If you're not watching what you eat, it can even make you gain weight.

Just cut out sugar and carbs.
 

Gilby

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Don't graze (eat mindlessly while doing something else), watch your macros, and at least figure out a rough estimate of you calories. A lot of it is habits and breaking habits may take a few tries, but don't get discouraged! Nobody's perfect, so don't get miserable when/if you mess up, just keep trying and it will get easier.

Good luck!
 

Alchemy

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-Count calories
-Do however much exercise you're comfortable with, its more important to exercise consistently than try really hard and burn out
-Eat food that keeps you full and helps suppress your appetite, coffee is a good way to keep you from feeling too hungry and fiber/protein/fat helps keep you fuller longer than sugar and other forms of carbs
 
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The first paragraph

This one?

One of the most commonly held diet myths is "To lose one pound of fat you need to create a deficit of 3,500 calories". This is wrong at every level. First of all, one pound does not equal 3,500 calories, as we will show below. You will see this formula in government literature, in just about every diet book, in private health booklets and all over the internet. The next time you see it, or hear it, ask where it comes from. You will not get an answer. (I asked the following seven UK organisations: the National Health Service (NHS); the National Institute for Clinical Excellence (NICE); the Department of Health; the National Obesity Forum; the Association for the Study of Obesity; the British Dietetic Association and Dieticians in Obesity Management and five of these have no idea where it even comes from. The two that tried to prove it failed by a factor of about ten.) (I’ve since put this up as a full blog post).

Not seeing the stuff you claimed:

She starts out by saying that you won't find any other health experts telling you the "truth" about calories.

The author is merely illustrating that the topic in question is an extremely common myth, not saying that she is the only one with the truth or whatever.
 

RevenWolf

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Having lost over 20kg in 5/6 months I can say that at the end of the day the most basic breakdown of losing weight is calorie in versus calorie out.

As long as your on a deficit calorie plan the majority of the time you will lose weight regardless of what you actually eat.

It's obviously still important to eat healthy nutritious food so that your body works properly, but at the end of the day it's still that calorie in versus calorie out, because literally any food in this world could make you fat if you have enough of it.

Beyond that my tips would be:

Cut out unmarked snacks. Unlisted snacks you eat can add up in calories really quickly without you realising.

The best way to cut the calories is to always look up the calories in something before eating it. People are notoriously bad at calorie counting and it's because most don't realise just how caloric some foods are. (For example guess how many calories are in a large Domino's cheese pizza)

Multiple small meals are better than 3 big meals. I would have 5-6 a day. The reason behind this is preventing you from eating until "you're full" and makes sure you never feel like your starving as you generally end up eating at least ever 4 hours.

In terms of the above this article I feel helps a lot: http://physiqonomics.com/eating-too-much/

(If the article is not allowed I'll remove the link, I have no issues with it)

It's a bit harsh but when I was losing weight it was that type of attitude I needed.

Exercise is always good as it makes your body healthier and can help you lose weight. Just make sure that whatever exercise you choose you do it safely, and if it needs instructions, make sure you get it from someone that knows what they're doing.

Also remember that the reward for exercise is t that cheesy burger waiting for you at home, the reward is looking how you want to look and being healthie.

Finally I heard a quote recently that rings very true to me "having one bad meal won't make you fat, just like having one healthy light meal won't make you skinny".

Weight loss is a marathon, not a sprint. A few stumbles will happen and those won't stop you unless you let them. Just be aware that it's something that takes months, not weeks.

I know most of this is pretty generic but I hope it helps!
 

Peltz

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Workout and eat clean. Get your metabolism up.

If you need a full proof program, do p90x or insanity. They come with a diet guide that scales to your weight and will get you fit. Following those programs is idiot proof and literally 100% effective at getting people into shape.
 

Lashley

Why does he wear the mask!?
50 chews at the minimum, and 150 chews if you're really sick or recovering from a bout with illness like the flu.
Chewing with your mouth open for extra oxygen to be carried down with your food is a good idea. But you may want to save that for when you're eating in private lol.
"Drink your food and chew your drink". Pinch of salt combined with lemon or lime juice can really help with digestion as well.

Thanks! I'm a quick eater so trying to fix that

What do you mean by chew my drink though? Haha
 

DOWN

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I pay good attention to the calorie count in a serving and what an actual serving size is

MyFitnessPal by Under Armor is a great app for looking up any food nutrition

Also drink a glass of water before the meal
 
Dieting right now. Done it before(many years before but the kilos have snuck up on me over the years again, middle-age yay...) so I know the drill, but it can be tough. Hunger wise it is ok, it mainly the first two weeks that can be a bit rough.(before the stomach shrinks down a bit) It's the boredom in what you are eating and that it takes time to lose weight. You have to have patience and don't think the first few weeks are how it is going to be going forward. Water weight loss is very real.

I think everyone needs to find what works for them. For me it is calorie counting, eating mainly "root" veggies with chicken or other lean protein sources. I aim for 1500 a day. Loosing 0.5 kg or around a pound a week works best for a long sustained diet imo.

Other people can for example eat soup and be fine but for me it would never work. I would miss chewing too much.

Lifting is super beneficial to an diet. Not so much for the calorie loss for the exercise but it does good things for you body when it comes to retaining muscle and other stuff.

My moral is mainly needed in the food store. If I only buy boring "healthy" stuff it is much harder to fall of the wagon at night. Good luck over eating on carrots, lol
 

Stinkles

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Talk to a nutritionist and your doctor but an alternative is chopped salads and soups. But exercise is key.


You can gorge on vegetables like lettuce and shredded cabbage, pickles and carrots and tomatoes- made delicious with judicious addition of fat free feta, lean proteins and lite dressing.

You'll feel full, satiated and a significant amount will exit your body leaving only nutrition and vitamins in its wake. Brothy soups too. Obviously chowder is a dark path.
 
So I guess I'll update this thread. It has been 8 days now since following the advice of the poster I quoted.

Basically, eat at a calorie deficit. Anyway, I wasn't far off what I thought I weighed. I started at 240lbs. My TDEE said I should eat 2,000 calories per day and 2,500 calories to maintain my weight. Happy to say that I haven't broken my daily caloric intake. I have been consistently eating 2,000 calories per day (sometimes less). I have not had any soda, no junk food, no sugar. As a matter of fact, I went on powdered Soylent 95%. It just made things easy for me. You guys might say I've lost weight fast but today I'm 229 lbs. Using MyFitnessPal helped me and counting calories helped as well. I will continue to lose weight until I hit 190lbs or so. The days I am able to eat real food is Sundays. Yesterday I had myself a steak and cheese and it was probably the single greatest food I've ever had in my life. Probably due to the fact that I hadn't eaten any food in 7 days.


Honestly, like someone mentioned here, half the battle is stop eating junk food, sugars, soda.

I'm really happy that you started taking the steps toward losing weight and it seems to be working for you. 11 lbs is a lot to lose that quickly, however I'd say that only 2-3 pounds of that is actually fat, maybe less. It's common to lose a lot of weight at the beginning because our bodies hold on to a lot of water and a change in diet, particularly from one that is very carb heavy, causes our body to flush it out. You wont be losing weight that quickly regularly and that might be discouraging but trust in the numbers that if you're hitting that 2000 cals a day consistently, you can expect to be losing weight, even if the scale doesnt reflect that in a particular week.

The only thing I am worried about is the 95% Soylent diet. Someone else mentioned nutritional problems that might arise from such a diet. I don't particularly have knowledge of what Soylent is and what a diet like that consists of. Just make sure you're getting all the nutrition you're supposed to get as well as making sure protein intake is adequate, or else youre going to lose musclemass as well which you dont want to do.
 

OraleeWey

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I'm really happy that you started taking the steps toward losing weight and it seems to be working for you. 11 lbs is a lot to lose that quickly, however I'd say that only 2-3 pounds of that is actually fat, maybe less. It's common to lose a lot of weight at the beginning because our bodies hold on to a lot of water and a change in diet, particularly from one that is very carb heavy, causes our body to flush it out. You wont be losing weight that quickly regularly and that might be discouraging but trust in the numbers that if you're hitting that 2000 cals a day consistently, you can expect to be losing weight, even if the scale doesnt reflect that in a particular week.

The only thing I am worried about is the 95% Soylent diet. Someone else mentioned nutritional problems that might arise from such a diet. I don't particularly have knowledge of what Soylent is and what a diet like that consists of. Just make sure you're getting all the nutrition you're supposed to get as well as making sure protein intake is adequate, or else youre going to lose musclemass as well which you dont want to do.

People have done Soylent for months and even years. Blood test have showed everything was normal with only Vitamin D deficiency.

As for my weight loss, just wanted to say I think you're right about what you've wrote above. I have slowed down losing weight. I guess now comes the "this is going to take a long time and I have to be patient and consistent" part.

Went down to 227 but back up to 230. How in the world? I didn't go over my caloric daily intake either. But I've read this is normal and expected.
 

SMattera

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But exercise is key.

It's really not.

I don't want to denigrate the benefits of exercise. It's very beneficial for your physical and mental health.

But it's not a very effective tool for weight loss.

You could jog for an hour straight, and burn fewer than 500 calories. That's about 2 cookies. Something you could eat in 2 minutes and think nothing of. And that's assuming you even have the time to jog for an hour every single day. Most people lead busy lives and are lucky if they can make it to the gym 3 days a week for an hour.

Let's say you spend hours each week weightlifting. After a few years, you might put on 20 lbs of muscle mass. That would give you about 100 extra calories to eat each day. That's a handful of pretzels.

Get your eating right first, then worry about exercise.
 
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Talk to a nutritionist and your doctor but an alternative is chopped salads and soups. But exercise is key.


You can gorge on vegetables like lettuce and shredded cabbage, pickles and carrots and tomatoes- made delicious with judicious addition of fat free feta, lean proteins and lite dressing.

You'll feel full, satiated and a significant amount will exit your body leaving only nutrition and vitamins in its wake. Brothy soups too. Obviously chowder is a dark path.

What a horrible, horrible way to live. Sounds like torture.
 
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Living on vegetables and proteins stripped of fat would make me pretty miserable, but if you can find pleasure in that diet then more power to you!
 

JoseJX

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A bunch of people have said the same thing, but I'll tell you what's been working for me. I'm a pretty sedentary computer engineer, but 've lost about 20.5kg (~45 lbs) in about 5 months by simply counting my calories and maintaining a deficit as directed by the MyFitnessPal app. It really can work if you're pretty serious about counting. Everything that goes in gets logged. I really don't spend more than 5-10 minutes a day doing the logging, the process is quick once you've done it a few times and it becomes second nature.

As to the 3500 calories being 1lb of fat, I'd actually say that it's pretty accurate for me considering my deficit over time and my loss. The article that was posted earlier made it seem like that was ridiculous. Sure, the actual number is not EXACTLY 3500/1lb, just like you'll likely have to tweak the TDEE numbers that come out of something like MFP for your personal situation, but it's pretty useful as an estimator and a good place to start.

What really helped me a lot was finding out how many calories were in the things that I was eating and then using that to make a budget. I absolutely can go out and have an extravagant dinner and go out for a few beers, but now I try to cut back a little on lunch or breakfast so I can afford those extra calories. Water certainly helps too, if I want a snack, I'll drink a glass of water first, wait 10 minutes and then decide if I really want that snack. Most of the time, I don't anymore!

Calorie counting works. It working for me, it's working for my wife, it's working for her father and it's working for my friend. When you put most diets into MFP, they end up being "magic" ways to simply cut your daily calorie intake. To me, it's a much more sustainable way to keep weight off. Instead of arbitrarily taking things you love out of your diet, it gives you the tools to work around your bad habits and make better ones.

Hope this helps!
 

KHarvey16

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I've also had good luck keeping track with MyFitnessPal. The difference between how I eat now and before I used it is night and day. Just be sure to check the information when you search for items and you'll e good. It's helped me find good choices I can buy and eat consistently.
 

Liljagare

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Try Weightwatchers! I have been on the program for over four months now and have lost about 25 pounds. Mainly it is about changing your lifestyle through portion control rather than complete denial, excercising, well being and eating differently then you did before (for example, instead of chowing down on pizza from the store, I make my own using Lebanense bread ((libba)). a deciliter of cheese, chili sauce and lots of veggies).

If you sign up for the full program, you get a handy app (which uses a flexible point system which is explained to you on their site...such as skinless chicken is 1 point and you may have 30 points total a day to use) which has recipies, a bar code scanner for foods from the store, an "inspiration" page, a point counter. You also can go to meetings in your area to meet others who are going through the same things and we give each other support, tips, tricks. Sorry if I sound like a commercial, but it really did work for me. Maybe it will work for you?
 
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