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How's FF7: AC selling?
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Wax Free Vanilla
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220,000 copies (DVD) according to Playfrance.
Takumi Fujiwara
Member
420.000 units acording to M-Create
305.000 of the first print edition
65.000 of the Advent Pieces Edition
31.000 of the UMD version
20.000 of the regular print edition
http://www.gpara.com/news/05/09/news200509229778.htm
305.000 of the first print edition
65.000 of the Advent Pieces Edition
31.000 of the UMD version
20.000 of the regular print edition
http://www.gpara.com/news/05/09/news200509229778.htm
Chittagong
Gold Member
Takumi Fujiwara said:
UMD bomba? Wasn't this going to be an UMD exclusive initially?
Frankfurter
Member
Compared to other numbers (especially from the USA) where Sony stated several that UMD's sell like hotcakes etc. and that it only took 2 months or whatever for the first UMD to sell 100k this seems like a small bomba, doesn't it?
SolidSnakex
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Kakusha said:
Square is basically sitting on a giant money pit. That's why that FF7 remake for the PS3 is a no brainer. Another RPG either a prequel or sequel based around Cloud probably wouldn't be a bad idea either.
Kakusha said:
In Tokyo all the boxes were gone by noon on release day. You couldn't find a regular DVD edition or a UMD copy by the end of the second day. I'd have to slot this one in the "Win" column for Square. It will be very interesting to see if US sales follow suit.
theREBELins
Banned
Can't wait to pick up the DVD in November 
Twilight Rockstar
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I searched all five days that I was over there and couldn't get my hands on the DVD. One store tried to charge me over 5,000 for a regular DVD just cos they were the only ones who had it. Apparently most stores were expecting restocks last Tuesday (after the holiday) but I left early Tuesday morning 
Twilight Rockstar said:I searched all five days that I was over there and couldn't get my hands on the DVD. One store tried to charge me over 5,000 for a regular DVD just cos they were the only ones who had it. Apparently most stores were expecting restocks last Tuesday (after the holiday) but I left early Tuesday morning
Same here. I couldn't get the UMD OR the DVD, even in Akihabara and to exacerbate the problem, it was National Respect for Elders Day on monday, so some places were closed/didn't get deliveries.
SO I KNOCKED OVER THE MAGAZINE RACK AND SHOUTED BANZAI!!!!!!
Chittagong
Gold Member
Stinkles said:
Huh? Last Thursday there was no shortage whatsoever in Akihabara (ABG, Laox etc.), Shibuya (Tsutaya, HMV) and Ginza (Bic Camera). All versions, including the collectors pack and UMD, were well available. I guess people picked them up for weekend.
How is 31,000 UMD's sold a 'bomba'? IMO, it's pretty damn good.
Look at it this way:
Current number of DVD players sold in Japan = ~46 million
Current number of Advent Children DVD's sold = 390,000
DVD sell through percentage = ~0.8%
Current number of UMD-compatible players sold in Japan (ie. PSP's) = 1.7 million
Current number of Advent Children UMD's sold = 31,000
UMD sell through percentage = 1.8%
Selling more than twice as many units per player is pretty impressive as far as I'm concerned, considering how little portable movie watching has caught on in Japan (especially in regards to the PSP), and the limited appeal it has anyways. I know there are FAR more DVD player owners that have little to no interest in the film than PSP owners, but that is why the sell through rate is so much better.
When taking the higher population and higher interest of UMD movies of the US into account, I won't be surprised if the Advent Children UMD pushes close to 100,000 units in it's first week.
Look at it this way:
Current number of DVD players sold in Japan = ~46 million
Current number of Advent Children DVD's sold = 390,000
DVD sell through percentage = ~0.8%
Current number of UMD-compatible players sold in Japan (ie. PSP's) = 1.7 million
Current number of Advent Children UMD's sold = 31,000
UMD sell through percentage = 1.8%
Selling more than twice as many units per player is pretty impressive as far as I'm concerned, considering how little portable movie watching has caught on in Japan (especially in regards to the PSP), and the limited appeal it has anyways. I know there are FAR more DVD player owners that have little to no interest in the film than PSP owners, but that is why the sell through rate is so much better.
When taking the higher population and higher interest of UMD movies of the US into account, I won't be surprised if the Advent Children UMD pushes close to 100,000 units in it's first week.
soundwave05
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Why really buy the UMD version though?
The image quality and screen size is so much better on regular DVD, those sales figures don't really surprise me at all. This movie was made for FF7 diehards right, well those diehards would want to see it in the best format possible, and many of them even bought that crazy $300 package or whatever.
The regular DVD version should have sales several times larger than the UMD disc format, so I don't know why that's so "shocking".
A movie was never going to give the PSP a big sales boost anyway. It was a flawed expectation right from the beginning to expect a movie to create sales interest in a game machine.
The image quality and screen size is so much better on regular DVD, those sales figures don't really surprise me at all. This movie was made for FF7 diehards right, well those diehards would want to see it in the best format possible, and many of them even bought that crazy $300 package or whatever.
The regular DVD version should have sales several times larger than the UMD disc format, so I don't know why that's so "shocking".
A movie was never going to give the PSP a big sales boost anyway. It was a flawed expectation right from the beginning to expect a movie to create sales interest in a game machine.
littlewig said:
Low sales? You gotta be joking. Square Enix *is* jumping for joy for the numbers, which is the entire reason for this news release: http://www.gpara.com/news/05/09/news200509229778.htm
The following are the ACCURATE sell through rates based on units produced:
Advent Pieces sell through rate = 86.80%
First Press regular edition sell through rate = 95.75%
Regular edition sell through rate = 88.98%
UMD sell through rate = 88.65%
This means that if pretty much every copy produced in the first run was sold out, so if those are POOR sales, I'll like to see how it can sell MORE seeing how it's sold out in a ton of places. The sales aren't going to slow down for at least a month with the amount of marketing pumped into it.
HomerSimpson-Man
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duckroll said:
Wow, low sales my ass. That's like what? 400,000+ copies of a movie selling around $50 a pop already?
soundwave05
Member
It's selling very well. Square must be making an insane profit off that ridiculous $300 deluxe package or whatever.
The only people who are dissapointed would be the ones would thought this would be some kind of killer app for the PSP and put it above the DS. Realistically you had to expect more people to buy the regular DVD version over the UMD version.
I'm all but convinced a FF7 remake has to be in development already at Square-Enix unless they're completely clueless.
The only people who are dissapointed would be the ones would thought this would be some kind of killer app for the PSP and put it above the DS. Realistically you had to expect more people to buy the regular DVD version over the UMD version.
I'm all but convinced a FF7 remake has to be in development already at Square-Enix unless they're completely clueless.
I was refering to the low sales for the UMD version, the poster claimed the UMD version is doing well because it sold to a higher precentage of PSP owners...
All Square-Enix sees is 31K at the end of the day. The higher attached rate for the UMD version only means there are less future sales of the UMD compared to the DVD, which is a negative and not a postive.
All Square-Enix sees is 31K at the end of the day. The higher attached rate for the UMD version only means there are less future sales of the UMD compared to the DVD, which is a negative and not a postive.
Docpan said:
How the fuck could you not give a fuck about sales numbers? I mean, it fucking shows how many people are buying it (obviously), which gives an indication of the franchise in and of itself (whether it is a game, movie or whatever) in that it shows the popularity level and whatnot, it shows how big of a FUCKING SUCCESS it is, which correlates directly to future installments or the lack thereof... Maybe I just like to know how the fuck my favorite (game, movie, book, cd, whatever) is selling because I love it and I want to make sure other people (see, read, listen, play) and whatever the fuck else.
littlewig, you are a fucking idiot.
They sold just about every copy they made. Also let me give you a protip: outside of forum geeks, the genral population has no idea of how to DL a movie off the internet.
Hell I'd say half the people here don't know how to judging from the PSP thread and all the posters who upgraded cause "they couldn't find any NES roms" :lol
They sold just about every copy they made. Also let me give you a protip: outside of forum geeks, the genral population has no idea of how to DL a movie off the internet.
Hell I'd say half the people here don't know how to judging from the PSP thread and all the posters who upgraded cause "they couldn't find any NES roms" :lol
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/2005-05-22-handheld-movies_x.htm
Considering how FF7:AC was pretty much being called the Second Coming of Cloud in the PSP pre-launch hype, I don't think 31,000 is impressive.
It apparently has an 88.65% sellout rate, and 1.8% tie ratio, but aren't almost half of the UMDs out there movies right now? (9 million games, 8 million movies, or something like that.) Having one PSP user in every fifty getting the movie just seems low to me.
Perhaps my expectations for it were just too high, but I'd say that right now it's not making much of an impact on UMD, basically because it was prevented from doing so (since Square/Enix only produced 35,000 copies). That may change with time though, unless the more-widely-available DVD version saps away all the demand.
Considering how FF7:AC was pretty much being called the Second Coming of Cloud in the PSP pre-launch hype, I don't think 31,000 is impressive.
It apparently has an 88.65% sellout rate, and 1.8% tie ratio, but aren't almost half of the UMDs out there movies right now? (9 million games, 8 million movies, or something like that.) Having one PSP user in every fifty getting the movie just seems low to me.
Perhaps my expectations for it were just too high, but I'd say that right now it's not making much of an impact on UMD, basically because it was prevented from doing so (since Square/Enix only produced 35,000 copies). That may change with time though, unless the more-widely-available DVD version saps away all the demand.