MoonsaultSlayer
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Is that why I kept getting a "Rats! Blablabla can't load" or something for a week or two every time I browsed a thread? Shit was annoying.
Huge mobile ads
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jellies_two
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I am a bit confused as to why there is the need to increase ad revenue (with bigger ads).
A lot of money would come in from skimlinks, Monetizing links to Amazon etc, and traffc is obviously off the wall in general every at $1/1000 page views total monthly revenue must be healthy.
I am sure there are human expenses, but the hardware and bandwidth costs would be reducing.
A lot of money would come in from skimlinks, Monetizing links to Amazon etc, and traffc is obviously off the wall in general every at $1/1000 page views total monthly revenue must be healthy.
I am sure there are human expenses, but the hardware and bandwidth costs would be reducing.
JonathanEx
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I'm not minding the bigger top one - would be nice if it was a max-size height so the smaller ads don't have that white space under, but that's detail.
My only issue with the bottom ad is a slight one of usability - I'll often hit that button at the top to scroll to the bottom and see a most recent post, but now it'll be a bit off the screen and I have to scroll up more. It's something behaviour can be learnt to but I think that's how it's feeling to me.
But no qualms with the principles you've got for ads and the need to get more revenue from them. It's refreshing to see someone make a big effort for being responsible about it - it's something we deal with at my work, we'll try and run nice ads to all good tech standards without bullshit trackers, all loaded after, etc... and then a newspaper group (it's always a newspaper group) will go HI ADD TABOOLA ADD THESE DOUBLE UNDERLINE LINKS FOR RANDOM WORDS ADD THIS THAT MOVES WITH YOU and then you cry as they're ruining the internet for the rest of us that rely on advertisements, by driving people understandably towards adblock.
My only issue with the bottom ad is a slight one of usability - I'll often hit that button at the top to scroll to the bottom and see a most recent post, but now it'll be a bit off the screen and I have to scroll up more. It's something behaviour can be learnt to but I think that's how it's feeling to me.
But no qualms with the principles you've got for ads and the need to get more revenue from them. It's refreshing to see someone make a big effort for being responsible about it - it's something we deal with at my work, we'll try and run nice ads to all good tech standards without bullshit trackers, all loaded after, etc... and then a newspaper group (it's always a newspaper group) will go HI ADD TABOOLA ADD THESE DOUBLE UNDERLINE LINKS FOR RANDOM WORDS ADD THIS THAT MOVES WITH YOU and then you cry as they're ruining the internet for the rest of us that rely on advertisements, by driving people understandably towards adblock.
Audioboxer
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I'm okay with the presence of ads, and I'm okay with their size and placement. This is a bit obnoxious, though:
lol.
How do the ads get selected for approval? Is it random from a Google arsenal, based on browsing habits or a combination of several things?
No idea how you got dog wheelchairs for example. Very specific. The dating ads are just tacky. Happy I mostly get Amazon ads, or gaming related.
Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
Okay, what about the "certificate not up to date" phishing ads? Can those be dealt with, please, good sir?
Not a fan of these massive ads at all. I occasionally click on the mobile ads(both accidentally and on purpose), having a massive ad at the bottom is not going to make it more likely for me to click them, right now all they're doing is being annoying(mainly the bottom one). I too am worried about the affect on my peasant mobile data cap as well.
Honestly, I would rather donate to Evilore/NeoGAF than have those huge ads take up half my screen....
Honestly, I would rather donate to Evilore/NeoGAF than have those huge ads take up half my screen....
Gamer @ Heart
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It's time to offer gaf gold for real.
Generalpsyduck
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If they introduced a subscription service right after they made the ads super intrusive there's probably going to be a shitstorm
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Some of these ads have been absolutely disgusting
Holy fuck
Holy fuck
MudoSkills
Volcano High Alumnus (Cum Laude)
Massive, and strangely all about making financial investments.
Generalpsyduck
Banned
I'm getting comcast ads
I fucking hate comcast
Grady Durden
Member
Yep
I don't really mind the large size, it was an observation and check in with others.
As long as the ads don't destroy data plans it will be acceptable. The full video for Mercedes feels suspect.
Unfortunately the bottom ad is effecting me experience. Because it sits above the bottom bar, it gets in the way.. sometimes.
Some ads seem to "scroll", or absorb my scrolls. (One even would move right out of view within its area, and appear blank.) I was trying to scroll down to hit the gaf logo to return to the forum and could not. The screen wouldn't move, but the ad just jittered around in its "frame" area and it was hard to reach the logo.
As long as the ads don't destroy data plans it will be acceptable. The full video for Mercedes feels suspect.
Unfortunately the bottom ad is effecting me experience. Because it sits above the bottom bar, it gets in the way.. sometimes.
Some ads seem to "scroll", or absorb my scrolls. (One even would move right out of view within its area, and appear blank.) I was trying to scroll down to hit the gaf logo to return to the forum and could not. The screen wouldn't move, but the ad just jittered around in its "frame" area and it was hard to reach the logo.
spatenfloot
Member
Did they do something about the browser hijacker ads? I have gotten that several times when browsing this site on mobile.
Mad Season
Banned
Yep very annoying
jellies_two
Member
Evilore:
Mobile ad-units on adsense work ok if you select sizes correctly. The responsive ones were broken a year ago and are still broken (I run a large site with mobile traffic). You get large spaces with small ads, and even large ads in small spaces, and basically there is no point having "responsive" because most people browse mobile exactly the same way so selecting the right size works best. We found there was actually less revenue to be had using responsive units and the user experience was worse than selecting the correct desktop sizes for the mobile site..
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R - the adsense 'responsive unit' is not a success. Wait until it really works properly before using it. Don't use adsense "mobile" ad code just use hand-selected desktop ad sizes for mobile. You can still have a square unit if you want, or whatever. 90% of people would be reading in portrait form on mobile on a phone which makes things pretty easy.
Mobile ad-units on adsense work ok if you select sizes correctly. The responsive ones were broken a year ago and are still broken (I run a large site with mobile traffic). You get large spaces with small ads, and even large ads in small spaces, and basically there is no point having "responsive" because most people browse mobile exactly the same way so selecting the right size works best. We found there was actually less revenue to be had using responsive units and the user experience was worse than selecting the correct desktop sizes for the mobile site..
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R - the adsense 'responsive unit' is not a success. Wait until it really works properly before using it. Don't use adsense "mobile" ad code just use hand-selected desktop ad sizes for mobile. You can still have a square unit if you want, or whatever. 90% of people would be reading in portrait form on mobile on a phone which makes things pretty easy.jellies_two
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There is no approval process.
Adsense gives you broad categories. As a website you can
a) de-select categories like gambling, dating, etc
b) see ads that are running, and play wack-a-mole
but (b) doesn't work, they come back under a slightly different name or domain so it is endless and a tiring process that starts again each day. Basically the only way to remove russian dating ads is to de-select the category for dating and romance sites.
Evilore:
Mobile ad-units on adsense work ok if you select sizes correctly. The responsive ones were broken a year ago and are still broken (I run a large site with mobile traffic). You get large spaces with small ads, and even large ads in small spaces, and basically there is no point having "responsive" because most people browse mobile exactly the same way so selecting the right size works best. We found there was actually less revenue to be had using responsive units and the user experience was worse than selecting the correct desktop sizes for the mobile site..
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Nah, the responsive ad units are working totally as intended, as far as I can tell. Don't normally use drop-in Adsense tags at all as we're not a wordpress blog about potatoes or some shit, but it's interesting seeing it adjust accurately to different device classes and all that in this test. As mentioned a million grating times: test. DFP and AdX exist and all, for starters. Happened to be that the responsive tags displayed on almost all smartphones what the static size choices would have been on this test run for each slot, so wasn't any reason to immediately switch over to the static ones (which was prepped and ready for instant push if these acted strangely), but obviously not going to keep these tags in permanently.
the_firewithin
Member
I've been getting this shit for awhile too. It's only when I'm on my tablet though
Dead Prince
Banned
Next were going to get audio ads
manzoman96
Member
after that we're gonna take it back to 1999 and put a scrolling marquee at the top of the page
after that we're gonna take it back to 1999 and put a scrolling marquee at the top of the page
I've kept just a basic banner on the top and bottom of the page of the desktop site for the last 12 years running, ripped up contracts on more than one occasion when ad quality on those two basic units wasn't kept up to the strictest standards as required by my terms, refused to allow "rich media" bullshit that would interfere with user experience when they started being used everywhere, and meanwhile desktop-gaf adblock rates will hit 80-90% by the end of the year.
Everyone's pressed the "kill site" button anyway. Why did I care this entire time again? Remind me like it's 1999.
Why do you have 2 cell signal meters? Weirdo
Jazzy Network
Member
Dual sim phone?
One is for connecting to Gaf Mobile, a perk of Gaf Gold. But I wouldn't expect you to know that.
Clockwork5
Member
Yeah they are unsightly; but apart from that I couldn't care less.
Dual sim phone. Gaf gold exclusive.
RiccochetJ
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You're in OT remember? You should put up a donate button! The magical button where some on here hope that other people donate but they themselves won't.
Maximus.
Member
Damn, that's sad to read :/ love this website and it sucks that the majority of people decide to block the two basic ads that do not interfere or distract from the content :/
Will also put forth a option for a small fee every month to be ad free, Ill gladly pay up.
I think the reasoning behind not doing this is it turns gaffers into paying customers which opens the door to a whole world of problems, like how to deal with banning people who've paid to be a member.
Would some sort of PSA on how to turn off adblock for specific sites help, or have you already done that? I bet there are lots of people who wouldn't mind the ads on neogaf but just have adblock installed and leave it on everywhere.
There are established metrics about inserting a message asking people to whitelist your site when adblock is detected. It has ~1% impact on adblock rates.
Coreda
Member
Something Awful handles it okay from what some other GAF'ers have told me (which is only $10 from what I can find so not a steep loss or anything). The idea of an optional ad-free subscription (via a donation or somesuch) doesn't seem so bad if it was reasonable.
Evilore wants to find the most 'equal' solution for all users, which is commendable.
SAForum has extremely toxic user payment strategies like paying to forcibly change other users' avatars/tags/usernames to fuck with them, then those users having to pay to get it changed back, paying to openly have spoilers posted in order to ruin people's experiences with popular entertainment, banning policies designed around encouraging $10 re-registration instead of banning to actually improve the community, etc. And the site has been in straight vacuum high-gravity freefall in popularity for some time now. Great case study on what not to do.
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