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lol what the fuck
 
SAForum has extremely toxic user payment strategies... Great case study on what not to do.

I think I stumbled upon that give a user a tag one recently, it's a humorous concept but obviously prone to abuse. I we think we trust you well enough to not implement anything like that, and based on your earlier post in the thread mods wouldn't even know.

If GAF Gold gets implemented, it'll be such that moderators won't even know if you are or not when they decide whether to ban you. If they're second-guessing when they wouldn't otherwise, that's harming the site. Basically, I'm an absolutely huge pain in the balls.

You seem pretty level-headed on what would gel and not.
 
This has really made me fucking angry. At least twice today I clicked on an ad. They take up half the screen now, literally.

Fuck after this post another came up. Make that 60% of the screen.

It was mentioned that these ads get clicked far more than the smaller ones. I suppose the reason for the clicks aren't as important as the fact that they're happening.

I wouldn't mind the ads nearly as much if videos weren't included. It's jarring to have all avatars and gifs off on my phone to be presented with a car video when I hit the bottom of the page.
 
My first impression was that they felt quite annoying, but honestly... I can live with them (I could add a joke about russian brides here, maybe).

I honestly can't see how I could click on them by accident: The reload button is still as big as my thumb and is placed a full cm away from the ad itself. Maybe they're more annoying on smaller phones?
 
With the new ads I'm noticing a lot more cases where the thread I end up in was actually below the one I thought I tapped. Not sure if this is caused by late loading ads or what. I also want to add a vote for moving the bottom navigation to be below the ad, it seems out of place where it is now.
 
SAForum has extremely toxic user payment strategies like paying to forcibly change other users' avatars/tags/usernames to fuck with them, then those users having to pay to get it changed back, paying to openly have spoilers posted in order to ruin people's experiences with popular entertainment, banning policies designed around encouraging $10 re-registration instead of banning to actually improve the community, etc. And the site has been in straight vacuum high-gravity freefall in popularity for some time now. Great case study on what not to do.
I still feel like I wasted money on my SA membership. Plus the $10 membership doesn't even get you everything.
 
There are definite issues with the responsive ads.

The top ad is often a double banner height space with only the top half filled -- and the bottom half is just wasted space. Have screen shots (Vive ad, then ikea ad). Space is such a premium on the phone. I would rather have ads in between posts in a topic than top and bottom with half of the top ones being double size and then half of those wasting the vertical space.
 
It's terrible if you regularly use the neogaf logo at the bottom of a page to get back to the main page.

On mobile gaf, I haven't seen an ad in the middle is years
Pretty much this. It's far too easy to click the ad by accident when you're using the GAF logo or when scrolling down from the top to the bottom of the page.

I think I'd rather have them all together with the navigation controls instead of the odd split there is now.

It might be a case of not being used to it yet but so far I'm not a fan of how it impacts usability. I have zero issues with the top banner.
 
The top ad is fine.
The bottom ad is just majorly inconvenient. Most of the time, I can't even read the last post in a thread because it gets cut off by the ad. Hitting the "jump to bottom of thread" button might as well be a "view the ad" button because that's all you see anymore.
 
They are now left justified.

Was this change made to allow for a gap to make scrolling easier? I swipe with my left thumb and had an ad absorbing my directions again. At least there was a gap this time on the right to use and finish scrolling down to navigation.
 
Yeah it's terrible. When a huge ass ad loads in while you're reading a post and the ad moves where you are. It's annoying, how is it okay?
I don't see how that's a problem as there is space on the page reserved for the ad and the ad seems to fit it all the time.

I'm just worried about data usage.
 
Wow, they're HUGE lol

But at least they're not at the top....

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This post messed with my brain a few seconds
 
We're running some tests on modernizing the extremely archaic and useless mobile ad units by utilizing google's responsive tags that will tailor the ad dimensions to the current standard ad sizes that Google serves for each class of mobile device these days. The old ad units didn't even fit the page layouts at all, generated almost zero revenue because they were designed for older low res devices primarily and are no longer really even used by advertisers, and those static-size tiny banners looked absolutely ridiculous when viewing mobile-gaf on tablets.

These responsive units should display standard desktop banners when viewing mobile-gaf on a high resolution tablet, which is totally appropriate and looks a hell of a lot more aesthetically sensible than a big empty bar with a pinhole ad in the center, and on high resolution smartphones the tags should utilize a moderately sized banner at the top of the screen and then a rectangle footer ad below all of the content and navigation controls. Yes, the rectangle is a little scary looking at first glance, but as it is below all the content and navigation controls it is not actually interfering with user experience to any significant degree that I can discern.

It's still two ad units, one above all the content, and one below all the content, and no shitty anchored ads that scroll with you, or interstitials, or any of that nonsense. Mobile-gaf was basically not monetized at all with the ad units it had in place, and these current-gen ones don't appear to harm user experience and also conform to the site layout better. If you have legitimate concerns here about user experience, feel free to provide feedback on that front.

The problem is bigger screen phones, like the Note series, are getting desktop class adverts.
 
People today often sound like everyone should just do everything for free or just because they're cool.

If gaf is something you value at all, you should understand that it has to make some money.

I'm starting to hate this "I have an ad blocker anyway" mentality.

We have seen that "everything should be completely free" situation many times and the results are awful very often.

Let them do what they think they should do in this climate...
 
It seems like every week there's a new problem with the ads. Last week it was the ones that would auto-direct you to a spam site and now they're HUGE.
 
People today often sound like everyone should just do everything for free or just because they're cool.

If gaf is something you value at all, you should understand that it has to make some money.

I'm starting to hate this "I have an ad blocker anyway" mentality.

We have seen that "everything should be completely free" situation many times and the results are awful very often.

Let them do what they think they should do in this climate...

It's a delicate balance.

I'm aware that GAF is a business and so is Google, but Google's (along with other ad networks) primary clients are advertisers not users, who lack the empathy for decent user experiences. It's not their priority. So there's a conflict between good user experience and effective ads as more eyeballs go mobile.

It's still a very nascent arena, but I'm hopeful we are just going through growing pains on the mobile web.
 
I just had a new problem.

Got served an ad that I am really interested it.
And I can't click on it. It is unresponsive.

Lose-lose situation right here.
 
On iPad Pro 12.9 inch and it looks like I'm getting ads for modern smartphones? Unless these are also desktop ads?

Yeah, I had similar behavior on iPad Air when browsing via Chrome.

Seriously, the only thing about the ads bugging me is that they're left-justified. Center it up (or provide something to fill the whitespace if the left-justification is on purpose to facilitate an ad-free swipe area) and I will continue to not notice them at all.
 
I have no issue with the top ads. The size is not obtrusive to normal function... but the bottom ones are a bit of a PIA. If they were below the footer (page up and NeoGAF logo "back" button) it would be a little better. If I page down, I get treated with a giant ad in my face. That is less than desirable.
 
Noticed the bigger ads (at the bottom) but i don't get any forced popup ads or redirect ads on mobile anymore so i'm fine with that.
 
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