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[Mudkips]

Not liking this trend for stuff that's paid for AND ad-supported. How is the model different to established web Hulu?

It's like cable.

Fees support delivery.
Ads support content.

Of course, with cable, the delivery cost is far, far less than what you pay, especially when you consider that the local government usually pays for and maintains the physical wiring.

The same will be true for Hulu Plus, especially when you consider that you're paying for your internet connection, and all of Hulu's "delivery" costs for what they provide are completely back end, and relatively constant (they actually decrease over time).

So yes, you're getting screwed. But not any worse or in any way differently than usual.

 

[The_Inquisitor]

After college probably going Netflix+Hulu+ESPN3/360+free content route. I just refuse to get cable. I will probably install a OTA HD antenna for over the air content.

 

[quickwhips]

1) If hulu is going to be available on other devices I'm sure they will make sure there is a fee with it. Hell I'm sure they will do the same with PC as soon as more people with consoles and other set top boxes out weigh the pc people.

2) I don't want Microsoft and Sony tacking a fee onto the cost of netflix and hulu. Here is an example why.

9.99 for hulu +5 dollars a month for xbox. 180 a year
9.95 for netflix + 5 dollars a month for xbox 180 a year

360 a year for these two services or we pay

120 + 120 = 240 + 30 dollars for a discount card at walmart or amazon
270 for a year or 300 without a a cheaper xbox live card

And this is what would happen if they added fees for each. Because some wouldnt get hulu and some wouldn't get netflix so the people who got both would get charged twice.

270 a year is way cheaper than what I pay for comcast now for basic cable. Thats why when I move next month I'll finally have fios and no tv except for antenna.

 

[Rookje]

It's like cable.

Fees support delivery.
Ads support content.

Of course, with cable, the delivery cost is far, far less than what you pay, especially when you consider that the local government usually pays for and maintains the physical wiring.

The same will be true for Hulu Plus, especially when you consider that you're paying for your internet connection, and all of Hulu's "delivery" costs for what they provide are completely back end, and relatively constant (they actually decrease over time).

So yes, you're getting screwed. But not any worse or in any way differently than usual.

Note that the XBOX ESPN service does not show live major games, it is similar to the service they have now online. It may also (see probably) require cable and a subscription to ESPN already.

Oh and you need XBL Gold as well.

 

[charlequin]

It may also (see probably) require cable and a subscription to ESPN already.

Nope. It's the exact same requirements as the existing service. You need to be on an ISP who opted in (or at a university or military base) but you don't need cable.

 

[-PXG-]

After college probably going Netflix+Hulu+ESPN3/360+free content route. I just refuse to get cable. I will probably install a OTA HD antenna for over the air content.

Same here. But don't forget MLBTV

 

[Rorschach]

Note that the XBOX ESPN service does not show live major games, it is similar to the service they have now online. It may also (see probably) require cable and a subscription to ESPN already.

Oh and you need XBL Gold as well.

ESPN3 does show live games. Don't know what you mean by "major." Is the WC major enough?

It does require certain cable/isp providers for access, though. If you have TWC, for example, you're screwed like me!

 

[BattleMonkey]

ESPN3 does show live games. Don't know what you mean by "major." Is the WC major enough?

It does require certain cable/isp providers for access, though. If you have TWC, for example, you're screwed like me!

Your only going to get a few live games off the live ESPN service if at all. People thinking it will completely replace the need for ESPN through other means are kidding themselves.

 

[WanderingWind]

This is my holy grail for streaming, but pretty much all indications are that any meaningful progress on this is a hell of a long way off. :/

Yeah, I'm sure it's a long way off. But it's going to happen eventually.

 

[Rorschach]

Your only going to get a few live games off the live ESPN service if at all. People thinking it will completely replace the need for ESPN through other means are kidding themselves.

I didn't say ESPN. I said ESPN3.

 

[gcubed]

It's like cable.

Fees support delivery.
Ads support content.

Of course, with cable, the delivery cost is far, far less than what you pay, especially when you consider that the local government usually pays for and maintains the physical wiring.

The same will be true for Hulu Plus, especially when you consider that you're paying for your internet connection, and all of Hulu's "delivery" costs for what they provide are completely back end, and relatively constant (they actually decrease over time).

So yes, you're getting screwed. But not any worse or in any way differently than usual.

what fantasy world do you live in?

 

[badcrumble]

what fantasy world do you live in?

That shit's heavily subsidized by the government, but certainly not by municipal governments.

 

[gcubed]

That shit's heavily subsidized by the government, but certainly not by municipal governments.

maybe the telcos... but not the cable companies, or at least the company i work for. Hell you should see the amount of money we pay local governments per month in franchise fee's

 

[coopolon]

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/...tm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss

Apparently Hulu + on PS3 will require PSN +. That's a dealbreaker for me.

 

[Nerevar]

It's like cable.

Fees support delivery.
Ads support content.

Of course, with cable, the delivery cost is far, far less than what you pay, especially when you consider that the local government usually pays for and maintains the physical wiring.

The same will be true for Hulu Plus, especially when you consider that you're paying for your internet connection, and all of Hulu's "delivery" costs for what they provide are completely back end, and relatively constant (they actually decrease over time).

So yes, you're getting screwed. But not any worse or in any way differently than usual.

what? This post is so full of wrong I don't even know where to start.

You do not pay the cable company for delivery, you pay for content. The bulk of your monthly fee goes to a per-subscriber fee to the networks. Cable companies simply add up all the fees they have to pay, put their premium on top, and charge you. Delivery is a very, very small piece of that pie.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/...tm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss

Apparently Hulu + on PS3 will require PSN +. That's a dealbreaker for me.

"Apparently?" Read the thread.

 

[NumberTwo]

...what?

Come on, man!

Yup, that's the deal breaker for me. Besides I already have netflix.

 

[Jim]

"Apparently?" Read the thread.

Hulu Plus won't require PSN Plus... but if you get an invite to the preview, that will require it until the full rollout. Weird.

Hulu Plus on PS3 only requires PlayStation Plus during preview period
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/hulu-plus-on-ps3-only-requires-playstation-plus-during-preview-p/

 

[Beer Monkey]

Hulu Plus won't require PSN Plus... but if you get an invite to the preview, that will require it until the full rollout. Weird.

Hulu Plus on PS3 only requires PlayStation Plus during preview period
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/hulu-plus-on-ps3-only-requires-playstation-plus-during-preview-p/

That sucks about the preview, but awesome news. Hulu can definitely have my 10 bucks as long as it covers multiple devices in my household (three PCs, a PS3, an iPhone, and an iPod) on the same account.

 

[SnakeswithLasers]

"Apparently?" Read the thread.

:lol you're such a dick.

 

[gcubed]

That sucks about the preview, but awesome news. Hulu can definitely have my 10 bucks as long as it covers multiple devices in my household (three PCs, a PS3, an iPhone, and an iPod) on the same account.

agreed on the last section. I have an android phone a ps3 and a pc, if the 9.99 covers them all i'm more interested. I actually JUST started instant streaming via my Tivo with netflix, need to discover that side.

as far as psn +, thats great news for consumers, but what exactly is sony trying to do with psn +? From a business standpoint i would think things like the Hulu app and forthcoming Netflix app would be PSN+ "features" in order to get more subscriptions

 

[badcrumble]

Hulu Plus won't require PSN Plus... but if you get an invite to the preview, that will require it until the full rollout. Weird.

Hulu Plus on PS3 only requires PlayStation Plus during preview period
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/hulu-plus-on-ps3-only-requires-playstation-plus-during-preview-p/

I wonder how long the 'preview period' is going to last.

 

[Trouble]

Just got an invite. I think I may cancel my cable, since I have a PS3 and an iPad.

Edit: Regular hulu content isn't available via Hulu+ apps? Only Hulu+ specific content? Lame.

 

[blame space]

Nope. It's the exact same requirements as the existing service. You need to be on an ISP who opted in (or at a university or military base) but you don't need cable.

fuckin Time Warner

 

[MidgarBlowedUp]

garbage

 

[vazel]

Edit: Regular hulu content isn't available via Hulu+ apps? Only Hulu+ specific content? Lame.

WWWWWHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTT???????

 

[Shurs]

Just got an invite. I think I may cancel my cable, since I have a PS3 and an iPad.

Edit: Regular hulu content isn't available via Hulu+ apps? Only Hulu+ specific content? Lame.

I got one too, though I'm not sure I'm going to sign up right away as I'm not a Playstation+ subscriber. I was hoping to find some impressions here.

Edit: I'm also disappointed that they charge $9.99 during this preview period.

 

[Borman]

Honestly, the selection is pretty terrible for stuff that I would care to watch. Signed up, cancelled within a day. Ill use it until my month is up, but really, its not doing anything for me. Plus, it still has commercials. (Using it on the PS3 btw)

 

[Shurs]

Honestly, the selection is pretty terrible for stuff that I would care to watch. Signed up, cancelled within a day. Ill use it until my month is up, but really, its not doing anything for me. Plus, it still has commercials. (Using it on the PS3 btw)

Is Justified available?

 

[Chocoboko]

I got one too, though I'm not sure I'm going to sign up right away as I'm not a Playstation+ subscriber. I was hoping to find some impressions here.

Edit: I'm also disappointed that they charge $9.99 during this preview period.

I was looking for some impressions as well. I got the invite email just now and looking to see if it is worth a try. Has anyone tried it out? Is the service worth while?

 

[Windu]

I just got a email saying I was invited to preview Hulu Plus, then they said I had the privilege to pay them to beta test it for them. :lol wtf no thank you.

 

[Borman]

Is Justified available?

Not that I can see.

 

[Struct09]

I got an invite to the preview, and decided to try it out. I'm impressed, and the first month will definitely be worth my $10. I missed Dollhouse season 2 and have been catching up on Glee, so having all those episodes available in 720p is pretty sweet. Whether or not I keep the service after that will depend on how often I use it, but I can see myself ditching cable in favor of this.

I won't be signing up for PS+, so I'll be using the web client until it's free on the PS3 (or the XBL version hits, whichever is first). Also, 3G streaming of the shows on my iPhone is very impressive, that will definitely be useful when I'm on the treadmill/elliptical.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

I got an invite to the preview, and decided to try it out. I'm impressed, and the first month will definitely be worth my $10. I missed Dollhouse season 2 and have been catching up on Glee, so having all those episodes available in 720p is pretty sweet. Whether or not I keep the service after that will depend on how often I use it, but I can see myself ditching cable in favor of this.

I won't be signing up for PS+, so I'll be using the web client until it's free on the PS3 (or the XBL version hits, whichever is first). Also, 3G streaming of the shows on my iPhone is very impressive, that will definitely be useful when I'm on the treadmill/elliptical.

Kiss all your data goodbye if you arent on the unlimited plan.

And has anyone tried using Hulu+ with video out on an iPad yet? I am wondering how well it works before investing in the cables.

 

[Struct09]

Kiss all your data goodbye if you arent on the unlimited plan.

My data plan got grandfathered, so I still have unlimited data with my iPhone 4

 

[PhoncipleBone]

My data plan got grandfathered, so I still have unlimited data with my iPhone 4

Ah, then stream away my friend!

 

[hateradio]

Got an invite, but now I'm contemplating whether or not spending $10 on TV is worth it. I don't have job, being poor sucks. :|

edit: bump.

 

[tirminyl]

Got an invite, but now I'm contemplating whether or not spending $10 on TV is worth it. I don't have job, being poor sucks. :|

I got an invite as well. My problem is being patient and waiting for shows on premium cable channels to show up on DVD and some of my shows on Science, or SpeedTv.

 

[commish]

I signed up for it and paid the 10 bucks a month for PS3 Hulu plus, but it sucks. Why are there shows I can watch online on Hulu for free, but I can't watch them through Hulu Plus, which I am paying 10 dollars a month for, on my PS3? Seriously? So disappointed. Maybe it'll be updated and fixed in the future, but I already cancelled it.

 

[Struct09]

I've been streaming shows on my phone quite a bit over the last few days, and am really liking the service. The only thing that feels "beta" about the app is that it doesn't seem to handle pausing very well. It doesn't always instantly pause the stream, and it seems to lose sync with the ads (it will do ad countdowns while watching the show sometimes). Minor annoyances, but worth mentioning.

Hopefully the free shows are made available to PSN/XBL later on, I'll be using H+ there when I can.

 

[hateradio]

I got an invite as well. My problem is being patient and waiting for shows on premium cable channels to show up on DVD and some of my shows on Science, or SpeedTv.

What shoes does Hulu Plus even have? Is there a lineup somewhere? I would spend $10 if it had some worthwhile shows.

I signed up for it and paid the 10 bucks a month for PS3 Hulu plus, but it sucks. Why are there shows I can watch online on Hulu for free, but I can't watch them through Hulu Plus, which I am paying 10 dollars a month for, on my PS3? Seriously? So disappointed. Maybe it'll be updated and fixed in the future, but I already cancelled it.

Why not get a HTPC? I've stopped using my PS3 ever since I connected my computer to my HDTV (as my monitor).

 

[Struct09]

What shoes does Hulu Plus even have? Is there a lineup somewhere? I would spend $10 if it had some worthwhile shows.


Why not get a HTPC? I've stopped using my PS3 ever since I connected my computer to my HDTV (as my monitor).

Not sure if this is the full list, but they have a number of shows listed here: http://www.hulu.com/plus

As for HTPC vs PS3/360 - I have a HTPC as well, but it would be way more convenient to be able to control the shows using a controller/remote as opposed to my mouse+keyboard.

 

[DaBargainHunta]

I signed up for it and paid the 10 bucks a month for PS3 Hulu plus, but it sucks. Why are there shows I can watch online on Hulu for free, but I can't watch them through Hulu Plus, which I am paying 10 dollars a month for, on my PS3? Seriously? So disappointed.

Yeah, this is horrible. I just e-mailed Hulu in the hopes that this is some kind of glitch. If not, I'll be cancelling ASAP myself.

What an ass-backwards launch:

- The app came out on PSN Plus ONLY (why not all of PSN?)
- Most people didn't even have invites when the app launched
- Content is restricted for no good reason on the app

Just exasperating. Hulu better get their shit together pronto!

 

[tirminyl]

I signed up for it and paid the 10 bucks a month for PS3 Hulu plus, but it sucks. Why are there shows I can watch online on Hulu for free, but I can't watch them through Hulu Plus, which I am paying 10 dollars a month for, on my PS3? Seriously? So disappointed. Maybe it'll be updated and fixed in the future, but I already cancelled it.

Well, that is stupid. I left a comment in their forum about that and sent them an email.

 

[poppabk]

Not sure if this is the full list, but they have a number of shows listed here: http://www.hulu.com/plus

As for HTPC vs PS3/360 - I have a HTPC as well, but it would be way more convenient to be able to control the shows using a controller/remote as opposed to my mouse+keyboard.

If you are using a mouse/kb to control it, then it isn't really a HTPC. There are really inexpensive options for a HTPC remote, about $20 for a media center remote that works pretty much out of the box, and which most universal remotes have a code for.

 

[Struct09]

If you are using a mouse/kb to control it, then it isn't really a HTPC. There are really inexpensive options for a HTPC remote, about $20 for a media center remote that works pretty much out of the box, and which most universal remotes have a code for.

I have a media center remote (actually use an IR sensor and my Harmony One), which works great for Media Center. But it's still awkward to get that to work with Hulu's web app. Still have to search for content, add it to your queue, etc.

 

[poppabk]

I have a media center remote (actually use an IR sensor and my Harmony One), which works great for Media Center. But it's still awkward to get that to work with Hulu's web app. Still have to search for content, add it to your queue, etc.

I'm not sure I understand. How does the PS3 version work differently to Hulu desktop or something like Boxee?

 

[Struct09]

I'm not sure I understand. How does the PS3 version work differently to Hulu desktop or something like Boxee?

Heh, I didn't even know Hulu put out a desktop app. I'll give it a try on my HTPC.

EDIT: Tried it out, and unless I'm completely missing something, it looks like it doesn't work with Hulu Plus content yet.

 

[DaBargainHunta]

Heh, I didn't even know Hulu put out a desktop app. I'll give it a try on my HTPC.

EDIT: Tried it out, and unless I'm completely missing something, it looks like it doesn't work with Hulu Plus content yet.

It doesn't.

The Hulu Plus launch has to be the biggest disaster ever.

- Non-plus content doesn't work on PS3, iPad, and so on.
- Plus content doesn't work on Hulu Desktop
- Etc. etc. etc.

Just mind-bogglingly awful. I know it's still in Beta, but the service is called Hulu Plus, not Hulu Minus.

 

[Struct09]

I hope they eventually allow the non-Plus content on the devices, but honestly I've been really happy with the service so far. Definitely got my $10 worth out of this month already.