Hurricane Katrina Thread: Any LA Gaffers?
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Red Scarlet
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When I get home, some serious shit is going to be happening down in NO..I hope people are going to be ok. Be safe, people in the path.
If it was really designed to withstand hurricanes, it should be able to take at least 300 MPH.
In engineering, there's generally a rule that structures be able to take much more than the max or at least equal to extreme scenario. For example, chandeliers that hang from the ceiling are designed to withstand at least 3 times their weight. That's because if it was pulled up horizontally with the ceiling and let go, the max force that's reached as it swoops down to it's intended position is 3x it's weight.
I'm a computer engineer, but I know this crap because of "Engineering Fundamentals." Didn't teach me anything about computer engineering...
Phoenix
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Matlock said:
50k people won't be in the superdome. The dome will be holding maybe 15k people tops unless something happens to one of the many other shelters in the city.
I've been watching some pics of the lake ponchatrain area and people are saying 'oh it doesn't look that bad yet'. The thing they don't know because they aren't from the area is that there are a series of steps that go down to the water there... the fact that you can't see the steps says a LOT...
Rainbow L33T
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I like my Canada thank you very much when I see things like this going down.I don't know how you guys can live with this.
Good luck to people in the path.
Good luck to people in the path.
Fixed2BeBroken
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Isabel > katrina
isabel was category 5.
hopefully katrina doesnt spread upward tho, cause i dont have the patience for it now.
just stay away from Ny.
good luck to whoever gets hit by it.
isabel was category 5.
hopefully katrina doesnt spread upward tho, cause i dont have the patience for it now.
just stay away from Ny.
good luck to whoever gets hit by it.
BlackClouds
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MIMIC said:
My father was in the Navy when Camille hit in '69. His ship got caught by that one, and the huge waves were throwing the ship wave to wave, like one of those classic cartoons. Then the ship reached the eye and tried to stay in the eye for a time. Fantastic stories. Literally having to strap himself down to something sturdy so he didn't tumble around like a piece of laundry.
ZombieSupaStar
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w000t
they said they expect the field in the superdome to be UNDERWATER but safe in the stands
w0000t
world biggest swimming pool!
they said they expect the field in the superdome to be UNDERWATER but safe in the stands
w0000t
world biggest swimming pool!
HURRICANE KATRINA
A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED
STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.
MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT
LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL
FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY
DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.
THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.
PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE
BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME
WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.
HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A
FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.
AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH
AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY
VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE
ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE
WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.
POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN
AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING
INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY
THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW
CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE
KILLED.
AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR
HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE
CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.
ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE
OUTSIDE!
http://football.ballparks.com/NFL/NewOrleansSaints/articles.htm
A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED
STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.
MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT
LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL
FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY
DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.
THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.
PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE
BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME
WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.
HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A
FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.
AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH
AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY
VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE
ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE
WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.
POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN
AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING
INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY
THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW
CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE
KILLED.
AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR
HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE
CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.
ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE
OUTSIDE!
http://football.ballparks.com/NFL/NewOrleansSaints/articles.htm
Spike Spiegel
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One of my neighbors just finished boarding up their windows and taking all their patio furniture inside.
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We're nearly 3 hours driving distance west of New Orleans.
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We're nearly 3 hours driving distance west of New Orleans.
No joke. This was such a lame and weak storm when it hit here a few days back. Now it's almost as if it never made landfall in the first place. I can't believe this thing came together so fast and then got so RIDICULOUSLY powerful so quickly.xexex said:
Also...
Holy shit. Good luck everyone.
7:00pm central INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY
pressure: 904 MB <---a bit higher which is 'good' if you can concider a Cat5 being good...
max sustained winds: 160 MPH <---- 5 MPH lower
movement: NNW @ 11 MPH <---- 2 MPH slower
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT2+shtml/DDHHMM.shtml
pressure: 904 MB <---a bit higher which is 'good' if you can concider a Cat5 being good...
max sustained winds: 160 MPH <---- 5 MPH lower
movement: NNW @ 11 MPH <---- 2 MPH slower
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT2+shtml/DDHHMM.shtml
The problem is that there isn't anything that is forecasted that could weaken Katrina significantly enough to avoid major damage. So even if it drops a couple of MPH, like Max Mayfield keeps saying, its a difference between getting run over by either a 18-wheeler or a freight train.
siamesedreamer
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ouch
Scalemail Ted
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This is actually Ted's brother, just wanted to let you guys know we are safe in Baton Rouge, and rabidly watching the wearther channel and local news.
On some pts to cover, according to wwl news, the superdome will be housing approximately 100k ppl. It accomodates i believe 70k for seating, so that will be a rough situation. Depending on how long the city will be unaccessable I can soon reply on how conditions are during these times because my dad was required to stay back and assist, where im not sure.
In Jefferson Parish, where im from, it was explictly stated that there are NO SHELTERS for any of the parish's citizens to seek. Also our parish president requested that anyone riding out the store, go out and purchase an axe, pick or maul, so that when and if they seek shelter from flood waters in their attics that they can break the roof to reach higher grounds. The parish Sheriff then added that the first job of the police / fire / resuce crews after the storm hits is to 'go search for corpses.'
According to the lastest from the Weather Channel, the storm surge is expected to reach 28+ ft. Also the storm is expected to only increase in strength due to the increased temp. of the gulf closer to the coast, accustomarily storms decrease b/c of cooler air currents from the north, but since this is so early in the yr this isnt the case.
And on a Final note, the Weather Channel just cut to Burboun St. in which Bars will still open and numerous people were having hurricane party. God Bless New Orleans!!
All i can say is i hope the wall goes thru a degenerative stage right before it hits lands... which is common with storms of this size, to degenerate then rapidly reform stronger.
Finally for a depictive idea of the size of this storm, if the western tip was at New Orleans it would reach as far as Atlanta.
Stephen
On some pts to cover, according to wwl news, the superdome will be housing approximately 100k ppl. It accomodates i believe 70k for seating, so that will be a rough situation. Depending on how long the city will be unaccessable I can soon reply on how conditions are during these times because my dad was required to stay back and assist, where im not sure.
In Jefferson Parish, where im from, it was explictly stated that there are NO SHELTERS for any of the parish's citizens to seek. Also our parish president requested that anyone riding out the store, go out and purchase an axe, pick or maul, so that when and if they seek shelter from flood waters in their attics that they can break the roof to reach higher grounds. The parish Sheriff then added that the first job of the police / fire / resuce crews after the storm hits is to 'go search for corpses.'
According to the lastest from the Weather Channel, the storm surge is expected to reach 28+ ft. Also the storm is expected to only increase in strength due to the increased temp. of the gulf closer to the coast, accustomarily storms decrease b/c of cooler air currents from the north, but since this is so early in the yr this isnt the case.
And on a Final note, the Weather Channel just cut to Burboun St. in which Bars will still open and numerous people were having hurricane party. God Bless New Orleans!!
All i can say is i hope the wall goes thru a degenerative stage right before it hits lands... which is common with storms of this size, to degenerate then rapidly reform stronger.
Finally for a depictive idea of the size of this storm, if the western tip was at New Orleans it would reach as far as Atlanta.
Stephen
StarscreamLSU
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Phoenix said:
There aren't "many shelters" here. We had them, but the Red Cross decided there was no real "safe" area in the city to shelter people, so they don't do them. The Dome shelter is being done by the governement.
I'm in Baton Rouge right now. Thankfully all of my family was able to get out, though we had to split up -- so it's pretty rough trying to keep in touch.
Scalemail Ted
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Just updated by wwl news. Right now Katrina is in 88 degree water and although the winds are down to 160 mph, it is expected to increase significantly once it reaches the 90 degree plus water near the coast, and since its still a relatively slow moving storm it has plenty time to rebuild its eye...not good news : (
Seems like its in a degenarative stage, just hope it lasts until landfall.
Also many roads are now being shut down exitting New Orleans so evacuating is becoming very limited
Seems like its in a degenarative stage, just hope it lasts until landfall.
Also many roads are now being shut down exitting New Orleans so evacuating is becoming very limited
Fragamemnon
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The change in winds is just the normal fluctuation that occurs with storms of this size and intensity. Lacking any compelling evidence to show that it is weakening-the eyewall is still plenty big (so no replacement cycle going on), there's no shear, and the sea surface temps are fine, I wouldn't read into it that much.
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