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Hypothetical pros and cons of Sony potentially acquiring Fromsoftware (indirectly/by proxy/parent company, etc.). Would you want it to happen?
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GymWolf
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No team is made by only one man.
Callisto was made by the dude who made dead space and it sucks my sweaty balls (to be gentle)
And i'm sure you have countless examples of the same thing out there.
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NeverYouMind
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Yes. With Sony's management they will be shutdown in under half a decade and souls genre will fade away. Other developers can start making action games great again without their shadow looming over them.
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Ogbert
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If that's true, I don't want Sony anywhere near them.
God, could you imagine? Souls would end up with a tutorial.
DeepEnigma
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James Sawyer Ford
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Yes. With Sony's management they will be shutdown in under half a decade and souls genre will fade away. Other developers can start making action games great again.
Sony released the best action game this year by partnering with shift up for stellar blade and Sony is a big reason FromSoft is what it is today due to their support early on
I love all this false doom narrative that their games are suddenly going to suck, when From’s best game to date is a Sony exclusive that had significant xDev support
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Yes. Because they wouldn't touch FROM to any real degree.
Acquiring Kadokawa is about bolstering their Asian transmedia portfolio, which would expand their IP moat tremendously and secure them additional bargaining power in the face of increasing consolidation by Western big-tech players.
Acquiring Kadokawa is about bolstering their Asian transmedia portfolio, which would expand their IP moat tremendously and secure them additional bargaining power in the face of increasing consolidation by Western big-tech players.
James Sawyer Ford
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Hrk69
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THANK YOU HERMEN
NeverYouMind
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I would argue that Stellar Blade is basic and Rise of the Ronin is the only mechanically interesting one. Any shared souls DNA is to its detriment. Its quality is down to (Koei Tecmo parent company's) Team Ninja's experience and not Sony's pocketbook.
Bloodborne and Demon Souls are not FromSoft's best. The original Dark Souls is probably their best and it is that way primarily because it is not bound by publisher meddling or expectations.
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noob smokes
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Id rather sony build up studios to bring back classic ip i think if they go for a big gaming acquisition epic or t2 would make more sense
James Sawyer Ford
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Elden Ring is more basic than SB mechanically
Bloodborne is the best game FS has made
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The Cartographer
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I voted no, obviously.
XXL
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They also bought Insomniac Games for 229M.
Are we just going to leave that one out?
XXL
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PC has the wokest games out there and the most of them and it's not even fucking close.
You guys caping for PC need to stop with this narrative.
Nintendo and Playstation are the least woke platforms in gaming and it's not even really debatable.
GymWolf
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People probably missed the messages on the ground at the beginning of every souls where they list the controls and shit
DenchDeckard
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Bro, what?
Last of us 2, God of war ragnarok, horizon, concord...more?
What single publisher/platform is worse than that?
Anyway. On topic I genuinely don't mind personally if performance is decent.
I would prefer to keep buying my games on pc but if I had to own on ps it would be fine as I own them anyway.
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Badlucktroll
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i could see them doing a souls like on one of the sony game engines
XXL
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Many many smaller publishers on Steam. I mean they literally have a tag for LGBTQ+ games on Steam and there are a literally a million of them.
GymWolf
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Other than the obscure shovelware you find on steam that nobody gives 2 fucks about, whatt are those uberwoke famous pc games you are talking about that are much worse than sp2 or concord??
Dustborn that you can also play on a ps5?
Edit: oh you were actually talking about the showelware unironically uh
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TehGoomba7s
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If it was Microsoft in question people would be saying how great it is. That'll tell you all you need to know.
Have you even played a single fromsoftware game?
NeverYouMind
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It has the coolest weapons, the best DLC, and the best aesthetic for a gothic castle off the beaten path but the main game is mid otherwise. The amount of werewolf bosses in the game and settings that blend into each other is a little ridiculous. It is somewhat saved by the varied bosses, great Caryll runes, and gems in the Chalice Dungeon in terms of replayability though (especially with glyphs mapped out by community). It is disconnected and monotonous at its core though. In other words lacking the element of adventure and profound discovery.
Elden Ring is an action RPG as opposed to an action game...
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XXL
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Why do they have to be famous to count as what they are? That's a strange line to draw.Other than the obscure shovelware you find on steam that nobody gives 2 fucks about, whatt are those uberwoke famous pc games you are talking about that are much worse than sp2 or concord??
Dustborn?
Edit: oh you were actually talking about the showelware unironically uh
Here is the LGBTQ+ section on Steam.
Acting like Playstation as a platform is more woke than that is absolutely ridiculous.
bender
What time is it?
There is a Slitterhead joke here somewhere.
mayham2199
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Graphics I don't think changes just because of Sony. Performance though I could see getting fixed.
AltogetherAndrews
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Ideally, I’d like developers to stay as independent as possible. 
James Sawyer Ford
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Lacking discovery? Not at all. Did you even play it?
There’s huge optional side dungeons that are better designed than main dungeons in Elden Ring
Best combat, best level design, best bosses before they started just making them hyper aggro, and amazing art design
GymWolf
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Because nobody gives 2 fucks about those games and they are all showelware made by single people or downright scams with barely any content.Why do they have to be famous to count as what they are? That's a strange line to draw.
Here is the LGBTQ+ section on Steam.
Acting like Playstation as a platform is more woke than that is absolutely ridiculous.
All of these games combined probably sold 1\10 of sp2.
A lot of people defended and praise sp2 but i see fucking no one defending or praising the lgtb stuff on steam, like literally no one, they exist but nobody buy them other than a couple hundreds of people.
The fact that you have to pick obscure showelware to prove a point already speak loudly.
At best i can agree that sony is not the worse and they share the first place with microsoft.
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XXL
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I didn't pick obscure games.
I literally just linked to the section.
Does Steam have more woke games than Playstation?
Just answer Yes or No.
Exactly just look at Metal Gear Solid vs Death Stranding.
rm082e
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On the one hand:
I worry about the quality of future games from any company that gets bought out by a publicly traded corporation. Once the money lands in the accounts, the people who made the games good in the past tend to lose interest and retire/leave. Once they are gone, the people who take over don't seem to have the same sort of motivation to drive creativity and success because they're already working for a corporation. We've seen this over and over again. Look at what happened to Bioware.
On the other:
The company isn't going to sell just because Sony comes calling. If Sony buys them, it's because they were already for sale. If they're going to get bought, I'd rather they get bought by Sony than anyone else. If Sony buys them, that at least might make it easier to do something with the Bloodborne IP, which I will never stop spamming about.
I worry about the quality of future games from any company that gets bought out by a publicly traded corporation. Once the money lands in the accounts, the people who made the games good in the past tend to lose interest and retire/leave. Once they are gone, the people who take over don't seem to have the same sort of motivation to drive creativity and success because they're already working for a corporation. We've seen this over and over again. Look at what happened to Bioware.
On the other:
The company isn't going to sell just because Sony comes calling. If Sony buys them, it's because they were already for sale. If they're going to get bought, I'd rather they get bought by Sony than anyone else. If Sony buys them, that at least might make it easier to do something with the Bloodborne IP, which I will never stop spamming about.
GymWolf
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Yes, and at least they have the decency of putting an advert that you are buying a game for lgbt, something that i can't say for the modern audience trash that was sp2.
So yeah steam has more lgbt games, sony and M have by far the most impacting and famous lgbt games no doubt, are you happy now?
If we judge just based on internet fame or what produce more grifter contents and how discussed these games are in hardcore places, steam is not even in the same universe as sony and m.
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ExtendEmbraceExtinguish
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One con is lack of ecosystem growth if these games are not day1 pc/console
Everything else is a plus
Everything else is a plus
Fess
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From a PC/Steam gamer perspective I see no pros in this, except maybe a slight chance of getting a AAA Bluepoint remake of Elden Ring, but Demon’s Souls isn’t on PC yet so might never happen.
Shouldn’t result in any serious cons, can’t imagine them doing any exclusivity when PC is such a big platform for them, but I don’t want to risk it.
Shouldn’t result in any serious cons, can’t imagine them doing any exclusivity when PC is such a big platform for them, but I don’t want to risk it.
GymWolf
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Depends on how much sony is involved.
GymWolf
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Yep, the difference in quality is night and day, dude clearly wasn't in charge or responsible for a shitload of things.
Last Hearth
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It will be a disaster, they will go from being a creative powerhouse to making corporate slop in a few years.
Loomy
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Sony is not going to buy a revenue generating venture only to reduce the amount of revenue it generates. From games will still be available where they are today.
I think the loss would be on the Kadokawa side. The people there managing their studios would be replaced by SIE people. Developers would not be affected by this. They are already a relatively small studio.
I don't know what this means.
Might force them to up their tech game. Not necessarily a bad thing. But back to point 1 - they're not going to mess with a money maker.
See point 1.
Pretty sure they own Elden Ring and Sekiro. The others are owned by Sony and Bandai, if I'm not mistaken.
Their games will still be on Steam. Those region issues will be interesting to see going forward, but aside from having to login to PSN(which is a non-issue if you're able to) I'd be surprised if there are any other sales restrictions on PC.
Pro: Improved accessibility in their games, because my god...lol
cinnamonandgravy
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sony, the same company that played demon souls back in the day, prior to release, and said it was total garbage.
having sony get involved and nesting with all their things is likely a horrible idea. end of an era perhaps.
having sony get involved and nesting with all their things is likely a horrible idea. end of an era perhaps.
Cre8
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Miyazaki replacing them as next President and CEO of Playstation.I can think of at least two cons:
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