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I dealt with discrimination today. Need to vent

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Air

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Good call by your girlfriend to take off your hoodie op. Give her a hug and a kiss when you see her.

Yeah these things happen. You handled it well.
 

Big-E

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How do we get this to media in Brampton? If I knew a business I frequent did this, it would be the last time I would go there. I think other Canadians would feel this way.
 

gaming_noob

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How do we get this to media in Brampton? If I knew a business I frequent did this, it would be the last time I would go there. I think other Canadians would feel this way.

You can always try cp24.com. If the clerk is a visible minority then I doubt it will get any traction. The reality is though that "visible minorities" discriminate too.. and from my experience, in this multicultural province, a lot more than white people.
 
Brampton is not cold lol. Not right now. Also many pump do that all the time. Leave old price up especially when it is low but real is high.
 

etta

my hard graphic balls
It's terrible that it happened to a place you visited for so long, but you handled it well. I'd further add to just don't pay any attention or thought to that idiot clerk, he's not worth anybody's time or energy the mind requires to process his behaviour. Manager, too.
 

LordKasual

Banned
This actually ended much better than it sounded like it would.

The store clerk was an asshole, but that manager was an especially shitty little cunt. To take friendly favors from a customer and then go out of your way to discriminate against him...

You did good to inform the other customers about his actions. Hopefully word of mouth will lose them business.
 

soultron

Banned
Being racist in Brampton is ironic considering the ethnic make-up there. If you were to go on the news with your story and enough people saw it, you'd probably sink that place. I think it'd be worth it.
 
"Hey you may have done nothing wrong but remember, you're also black!!!"

And the police officers response pisses me off too. Why the fuck are you taking it out on OP officer. He didn't fucking do anything wrong. Your job is to solve civil disputes. Shut the fuck up and do it. Your time ia not being wasted.
 

LordKasual

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"Hey you may have done nothing wrong but remember, you're also black!!!"

And the police officers response pisses me off too. Why the fuck are you taking it out on OP officer. He didn't fucking do anything wrong. Your job is to solve civil disputes. Shut the fuck up and do it. Your time ia not being wasted.

It sounds more like, they got a call to handle a problem, and then when the clerk told him what the base problem is, the cop is like "Why the fuck should the police care about this?".

Then OP says "This is only a police-worthy problem because i'm black."

After which point the cops go "????", the cunt manager realizes his intended plan backfired, and he pays for the gas for OP.
 

Daingurse

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Sorry to hear about that bullshit man. I had a somewhat similar altercation at a gas station myself. Paid inside for gas, then went outside and noticed that I still couldn't pump gas yet. Went back inside, and the dude refused to put gas on the pump. I know I said the right pump # initially, but this guy just wasn't giving me the benefit of the doubt. I'm honestly very lucky that the cops didn't get called on me in retrospect, because I was fucking heated. I got loud and refused to leave the store till the shit was rectified. I'm 6' 4'', 240 lbs and black. That shit could have escalated so badly it's not even funny. But I was so infuriated at the time that I pretty much lost all perspective. Dude eventually dud cave in and put the gas I fucking paid for on my pump. Never been to the gas station again. I honestly do look think me being black was a factor, and I count my lucky stars that shit didn't escalate.

Hindsight really is 20/20. My reaction was potentially very dangerous, and I was VERY fucking lucky.
 

Mesousa

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Being racist in Brampton is ironic considering the ethnic make-up there. If you were to go on the news with your story and enough people saw it, you'd probably sink that place. I think it'd be worth it.

It would probably be ironic if the store manager, and attendant, weren't Desi(40% of Brampton's population).

They are borderline part of the majority there.
 

norm9

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Shitty situation. I'd be pissed. Cop should have ticketed him for wasting time.

When you asked if it was because you were black, did he say YES in a roll your eyes sort of way? I've dealt with people doing stupid shit and when I called them out on it, they've said I was racist and I have responded with a yes, but a yes in an incredulous, are you really accusing me of this shit type of way.
 
I pulled into a Gas Station right across the street from my house. It's an Esso Gas Station I have been using for the last 15 years.

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I paid for my Gas at the Supreme price, told the manager that he and Esso has forever lost my business, wrote an angry email to their Corporate and now im here. Venting.


Writing to Corporate is good. But you should also write the same complaint to their social media in the open. It will be much harder for them to ignore and you're far more likely to get result if it's in public.

Just remember to keep your account of what happened clinical and business like rather than an emotional fueled (ha ha!) rant.

Good luck OP.
 
I pulled into a Gas Station right across the street from my house. It's an Esso Gas Station I have been using for the last 15 years.

I pull up to a pump and there is a sign that says we're out of regular gas enjoy Supreme+ on us for the price of regular. Its cold as fuck in Canada so over my work suit im wearing a 4XL USC hoodie for warmth.

As I begin pumping I notice that the pump is charging me a 1.33 per litre as opposed to the 1.03 it was supposed to.

I click the intercom button to ask the clerk if the promotion will be applied when I enter the station to pay. He then tells me. "That sign was left there from last night, the promotion is over and we wont honour that price.

Confused I take the sign down from the pump and bring it into the station to show him. Now not only is he rude but he's also telling me to tell someone who cares.

I again repeat. "Yo you need to honour thos. I wouldn't be trying to fill up my lil ass avenger with premium fuel"

He tells me he wont do anything. I again implore him to honour the price from a customer service standpoint.

He looks at me, picks up the phone and says "Im calling the police, I dont feel safe around you"

I ask "Why? Because I'm black?" To which he responds definitively while looking me dead in my eye. "YES!" And proceeds to call the cops. When I tell him Im more than happy to wait for the police to settle this, he then decides to call his manager a dude who Ive personally bought gas from over the years and even went as far as buying him egg nog last year when he said he's never tried it.

Now he comes in yelling at me saying Im an idiot and that they dont have to honour shit.

Heated, I sit my ass in the corner and call my girlfriend so I dont lose my cool. She suggests before the cops get there to take off my hoodie.

In between waiting for the cops I told every single black person that walked in what happened. Some just looked at the man disappointed, another turned away.

Cops get there they ask me whats the issue, I give them the run down and they say "Seriously? This shit isnt worth our time, why did he call" to which I say "Because Im Black, was the reason he gave me" baffled the Cops shake their head. The manager finally says that he will pay for my gas out of pocket. But to me the damage was done.

I paid for my Gas at the Supreme price, told the manager that he and Esso has forever lost my business, wrote an angry email to their Corporate and now im here. Venting.

I guess because Im in Canada I fall into the trap of believing that we're above discrimination, especially considering I live in a very ethnic neighbourhood.


Im black and I went to canada a few years ago (Brampton, Ontario). My two cousins and I wanted some slushies from Macs (a convienence store chain). Got to the Macs later at night and the dude would only let us in one at a time. Fine I thought because it was so late. Wrong. A group of white kids showed up and he let them all in at once. Told my aunt who I was visiting and she drove to the store and cursed out the owner.

Racism is everywhere. Sorry, dude.


Edit: Wow. Looks like OP's incident happened in Ontario as well.
 
being from the Fraser Valley, yeah racism is still alive and well though its thankfully no where near as institutionalized as the states. Cops are generally ok
[some do hold biases against aboriginals]
with all ethnicities over here thankfully. a lot of older folk and dumbasses still cant handle punjabi's though. but then again some of my punjabi friends hate how prevalent gangster culture is with some of other punjabi's so its more nuanced i guess. Most suburban and city folk are generally fine. Racism against blacks is pretty rare here though on the plus side
 

Divvy

Canadians burned my passport
Brampton? Yeah, I've definitely heard of issues there with regards to racism.

Still, very sorry to hear that OP
 
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sounds like bullshit OP :(

I have to say though

In between waiting for the cops I told every single black person that walked in what happened. Some just looked at the man disappointed, another turned away.

why didn't you tell the white people? I would have asked the guy working 'wtf mate'
 
In my many encounters with the Police in my town I can definitively say they don't give a Fuck about anything except throwing people's asses in jail.
 

hey_it's_that_dog

benevolent sexism
More proof that humanity is more sad than good.

No, negative experiences like this upset us so greatly and command such attention precisely because they are rarer than positive ones.



Sorry this happened to you OP. Glad it didn't escalate into anything dangerous for you.

Im black and I went to canada a few years ago (Brampton, Ontario). My two cousins and I wanted some slushies from Macs (a convienence store chain). Got to the Macs later at night and the dude would only let us in one at a time. Fine I thought because it was so late. Wrong. A group of white kids showed up and he let them all in at once. Told my aunt who I was visiting and she drove to the store and cursed out the owner.

Racism is everywhere. Sorry, dude.


Edit: Wow. Looks like OP's incident happened in Ontario as well.

This might be an inaccurate stereotype that I hold, but I get the impression that convenience store workers of all races are prejudiced against black people.
 
I'm sorry that happened to you op. It fuckin sucks when people judge you based on the color of your skin. Fuck those racist assholes
 

BruceCLea

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Go back during the day and ask for the manager. Tell him what day and time you came. Tell him you were refused service because the person working there was discriminatory and a racist. If the manager isn't there ask someone for the manager's number. Don't let this shit go by the waste side or it'll never change.
 
Good on you, OP. You handled that incredibly well. Hopefully they get their comeuppance.

Go back during the day and ask for the manager. Tell him what day and time you came. Tell him you were refused service because the person working there was discriminatory and a racist. If the manager isn't there ask someone for the manager's number. Don't let this shit go by the waste side or it'll never change.
Reread the OP. He did talk to the manager, and the manager was just as much of a piece of shit.
 

Morrigan Stark

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The fact he said "yes" to the "because I'm black?" question is surreal. Dude's a scumbag.
Yeah that made my jaw drop. Didn't even sputter some defensive BS excuse, just said yes. Damn, that asshole's got nerve.

Glad it sorta worked out (in that the cops were cool about it and didn't shoot you), OP, though I'm sorry you had to deal with that. I would have been livid.
And still taken the free gas tank regardless
 
I hope this wont label me as a racist: But anyone that has walked into any small, or big retail store in Brampton knows the most common ethnicity of people who live and work there.

I use to date a girl from Brampton and every time I stopped by in town to buy something, anything from gas, to a Micro Sd card from a small little electronic shop, I've never encountered a service with a smile, never really had a huge problem either but.. most of the time I felt shitty doing any kind of business with any retailer in that town.

I really think there should be a retail/ service industry reform in that town where some employees would require to take some customer service courses, where they learn how to be polite etc.

I say "that town" because I think it's a mob mentality, I live in an area where there are some pockets of brown people, not the majority of the population... And believe it or not, my local Shell and even other three gas local stations are ran by brown peeps...But they are so much nicer here. I have no idea what it is with the people in Brampton. they indeed can be dicks.
 
How do we get this to media in Brampton? If I knew a business I frequent did this, it would be the last time I would go there. I think other Canadians would feel this way.

Also this, Doesn't CBC do a Dateline type shit around the GTA?

I'm friends with a reporter on CP24, I don't know how far out of metro Toronto does CP24 report though... BUt I really think the news should do a report about this particular gas station and the employee and manager in question.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Lil Wayne lied ? Nah honestly sucks to hear that OP, but gotta say you handled the situation very well.
 

Kieli

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Brampton is not cold lol. Not right now. Also many pump do that all the time. Leave old price up especially when it is low but real is high.

I've never seen this before. All prices are digital and update immediately (to be the same as any other gas stations).

I'm sad to hear it happened in Canada, but I'm not surprised.
 
Honestly OP, let me know if you're willing to do an interview with CP24. I could get a friend on the phone... I think this kind of shit should be exposed and weeded out immediately.

I don't want to ponder if the guy at my local gas station is a racist prick or not...

This is Southern Ontario, and we got a reputation to uphold here! This shit shouldn't be tolerated.

Brampton is not cold lol. Not right now. Also many pump do that all the time. Leave old price up especially when it is low but real is high.

What a strange little post... Yes Brampton is cold, today... I know because I am merely 50 km away from Brampton.

And if there is a sign right at the pump saying "We are out of Regular, but no worries enjoy Plus gasoline for the price of Regular on us" How the fuck the Op is to know that they won't honor this statement? Did a clown write that sign and posed it at the pump and ran off to troll the gas station employee?

Who the fuck does that gas attendant think he is to 1) Be racist 2) be too lazy to step outside for literally 5 seconds and remove the sign and 3) To talk down to a paying customer.

The decent thing to is simply apologize, and say "Yeah, that sign is from last night, it should not be there anymore, I will honor the deal for you, and will remove the sign asap, so there is no more confusion with future customers." End of discussion!
 

Septic360

Banned
Bah. That's ridiculous.

Mind you, judging by what's happening on that side of the planet (granted it's not the USA) this is probably a thread with a happy ending seeing as the cops didn't shoot you multiple times
 
You know OP, if you are feeling vindictive you can take them up for a Human Rights violation under Racial Harassment. The court will rule in your favour. Even more so if you are in Ontario. Alternatively, bring the story to the CBC and they'll do a hit piece for you and maybe even get you free gas for a year from Esso Corporate just to make the ensuing PR storm go away

Either way, this shouldn't have happened to you. Fuck this asshole. I'll make sure to help out by passing Esso whenever possible

Bah. That's ridiculous.

Mind you, judging by what's happening on that side of the planet (granted it's not the USA) this is probably a thread with a happy ending seeing as the cops didn't shoot you multiple times
Our police tend to be night and day compared to the USA. Yeah they have problems, but they generally won't shoot you on the spot, or arrest you without a couple words or a clear reason why first.
 
It's pretty sad, but this is how it works. They have no control over the price they charge you. Also, if someone steals gas, it's taken out of the clerk's paycheck. It's a terrible job.

Honoring posted price isn't a law, it's self regulated.



Don't feel too bad. I bet every customer who showed up before you paid extra and did not notice.
 
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