I feel like taking the Red Pill was a bad idea.

Red or Blue Pill?

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Plies said:
Anyways, I was on my epiphany toilet, when I well... had an epiphany.
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Do you gain wisdom from sitting on the toilet as well? I've had this situation for years. I usually have a coding problem and then I sit on the toilet and the solution comes to me. I joke to my wife that there's a spirit inhabiting the toilet.

About Seymour Cray, "the father of supercomputing":

"Another favorite pastime was digging a tunnel under his home; he attributed the secret of his success to "visits by elves" while he worked in the tunnel: "While I'm digging in the tunnel, the elves will often come to me with solutions to my problem."."
 
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In the 4th movie they show that Zion has improved farming with growth and visible vegetation as well as peace with the machines.

I was going through some stuff when I saw matrix 4 in the cinema and I really enjoyed it (sorry, I know it's flawed as hell and probably very left leaning but it resonated).

There's a lot about taking pills for coping mentally as well as interacting with therapists. These don't correlate directly with my own life but I appreciated the director's angle and I felt there were lessons to learn.

It's really about the director's life I think. I loved the scenes with the marketing team sessions for this reason too.
 
The blue pill is for people that watch Castle box-sets.

But seriously, have we ever seen anyone actually take the blue pill and live?
Could be euthanasia.
 
Super hot take, but I always thought Cypher had the right idea. Get extracted from the Matrix, use it as a bargaining chip, then have your memory wiped and get reintegrated into the Matrix, but now with billions of dollars.
 
Major Insano said:
The blue pill is for people that watch Castle box-sets.

But seriously, have we ever seen anyone actually take the blue pill and live?
Could be euthanasia.
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The blue pill was just a Mike and Ike.
 
The Matrix is great, and it's in part because the Red/Blue Pill metaphor is flexible enough to have been adopted by a bunch of different subcultures.

If the Wachowskis had made it 100% inarguably about the trans experience, I don't think the movies would've resonated with so many people.

Oh: Red Pill all day, btw.
 
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bitbydeath said:
Be careful of that Red Pill.

www.bbc.com

The Matrix is a 'trans metaphor', Lilly Wachowski says - BBC News

Lilly Wachowski, who came out as trans in 2016, says the "world wasn't quite ready" in 1999.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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The funny thing is, when you actually think about it, yes, you could go back and say this film is a trans allegory..

But the reasons? Total and utter Bollocks. Especially when you consider we had films such as~
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And who stared in that?


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So no, the corporate world wouldn't have given a shit. Infact, it was a hell of a lot more tolerant infact than it is today in regards to artistic 'Freedoms'

When you consider that everyone in Hollywood, going back quite a few years now even have Trans fucking plant pots and carpets, this just sounds like jumping on a bandwagon somewhat, they just got ahead of it before hand 🤷‍♂️

Verdict~ Bullshit.
 
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Durien said:
Oh man now that could be awesome or f'ing terrifying.
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Actually no. Now forgive me if I get this wrong but I haven't watched the Matrix since I saw it in the theater.

If Neo was in the matrix when he was offered the choice then one pill would be a sugar pill since he is still inside the matrix. It wouldn't take him anywhere. IMHO he would be ejected outside the Matrix because only the real pill would work.
 
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Dacvak said:
Super hot take, but I always thought Cypher had the right idea. Get extracted from the Matrix, use it as a bargaining chip, then have your memory wiped and get reintegrated into the Matrix, but now with billions of dollars.
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I don't think I could trust the machines not to dispose of me afterwards though.
Especially if they get to wipe your memory..
 
Major Insano said:
I don't think I could trust the machines not to dispose of me afterwards though.
Especially if they get to wipe your memory..
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Ya know what, good point. I changed my mind, here's what I'd do:

I'd extract myself from the Matrix with the red pill, and then I'd start a company in the real world, and the whole business would be extracting people from the Matrix, and then reinserting them with their ideal life. I'd be the CEO and the first customer.
 
Except you couldn't guarantee their safety. The ship or city they are in while hooked up could be pulsed or attacked at any time. Or their minder, who would have to stay out, could go rogue.

Only the machines would be able to reinsert someone back into the matrix in the other manner, with no threat of an EMP. Assuming they weren't just telling Ralphie what he wanted to hear.
 
Red pill all the way.

The second you find out, the prospect of taking the blue pill means erasing your memories and your knowledge; both of which makes you less of who you are.

The erasure of memories is the erasure of you.

Also, truth, reality, control, freedom.
 
Audiophile said:
Red pill all the way.

The second you find out, the prospect of taking the blue pill means erasing your memories and your knowledge; both of which makes you less of who you are.

The erasure of memories is the erasure of you.

Also, truth, reality, control, freedom.
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But you now have the ability to be a new you! I think the whole wipe your memory is more wipe your memory of the acknowledgement of the matrix. I can't imagine they wipe your memory, dump you in an apartment and you have no idea about anything.
 
Durien said:
But you now have the ability to be a new you! I think the whole wipe your memory is more wipe your memory of the acknowledgement of the matrix. I can't imagine they wipe your memory, dump you in an apartment and you have no idea about anything.
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If I've been made aware of the matrix and then given the option to have that wiped, the prospect of having that memory erased inherently terrifies me. The loss of something discovered is to lose a part of you.
 
Plies said:
When you think about it. Taking the red pill was a really fucking stupid idea.

Yes, I'm talking about the Matrix. If you don't know, in the movie the protagonist is faced with a choice of taking either a red or blue pill.

Taking the red pill means that you get to come out of the Matrix. A simulation world that you never really know existed. I won't bore with more details because I'm sure 89% of us have seen the movie.

Anyways, I was on my epiphany toilet, when I well... had an epiphany. I'm not sure whether this has been done before or not. But I just want to point out that taking the red pill is a really bad idea.

A desolate wasteland??

This is what Neo is fighting for?

Can we even build a civilization out of that. Think about it.

At one point in the movie Morpheus says


How the fuck are people supposed to survive without the sun? Plants wont grow. And I have yet to see water outside of the Matrix.

Sure, the Matrix is only simulated reality, but it looks a hell of a lot nicer than this.

Now my knowledge of the series past the first one is limited, seeing as they have been permanently blocked out of my memory. But how are you supposed to bring a booming civilization from this? Am I right?
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The Viagra doesn't work like that.

💊🔵
 
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Rentahamster said:
For people who choose the red pill, I think the point is that living in a world that they feel is fake is like a never-ending torturous existential crisis. Being free of that and feeling in control of their own lives is a relief from that. On the other hand, they don't know ahead of time that the real world is a real shit hole, but most of those in the movie seem okay with it, aside from Cypher.

Besides, it's not like you'll never be able to experience the creature comforts of the matrix if you take the red pill. You still have access to matrix-like simulations and leisure programs.
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Take red pill.

Tell Laurence fishburn that you give zero fucks about his prophecies and then spend 16 hours a day in any simulation you desire.
Maybe 16 hours with the woman in the red dress. Maybe a break to eat dowsers runny slop then back at it.

That's better than working 9 to 5 lol.
 
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Donald mac Ronald said:
Take red pill.

Tell Laurence fishburn that you give zero fucks about his prophecies and then spend 16 hours a day in any simulation you desire.
Maybe 16 hours with the woman in the red dress. Maybe a break to eat dowsers runny slop then back at it.

That's better than working 9 to 5 lol.
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This guy red pills
 
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