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"I found myself in a meadow lit with this glorious, radiant light, like no light we’ve ever seen" - Man After Near-Death Experience

BlueAlpaca

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Maybe science doesn't have all the answers...


hen Gregg Nome was 24 years old, he slipped into the churn beneath a waterfall and began to drown, his body pummelled against the sandy riverbed. What he saw there surprised him. Suddenly, his vision filled with crystal-clear scenes from his childhood, events he had mostly forgotten, and then moments from early adulthood. The memories, if that’s what they were, were vivid and crisp. Was he reliving them? Not quite. They came at high speed, almost all at once, in a wave. And yet he could process each one individually. In fact, he was able to perceive everything around him: the rush of the water, the sandy bed, all of it brilliantly distinct. He could “hear and see as never before,” he recalled later. And, despite being trapped underwater, he felt calm and at ease. He remembered thinking that prior to this moment his senses must have been dulled somehow, because only now could he fully understand the world, perhaps even the true meaning of the universe. Eventually, the imagery faded. Next, “There was only darkness,” he said, “and a feeling of a short pause, like something was about to happen.”
 

Tg89

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TTOOLL

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Amazing, thanks for that. I read “Mere Christianity” a couple of weeks ago and all this makes so much sense.
 

Soodanim

Gold Member
I've seen it suggested that your life flashing before your eyes is basically the brain doing a quick search to find a solution to the whole "Dying" thing. It's flicking through the pages saying "It must be in here somewhere".
 

INC

Member
Idk... I've "died" twice and it literally was just nothing. No consciousness, no awareness, no white light or anything. Not even darkness, at all. It was just nothing. Just like I never existed.

Then I was revived.

Do u yearn to be back?
 

Northeastmonk

Gold Member
I was driving home the other day after being on the road for two hours and I thought I saw a picture of me as a child in an old family room as a reflection in my windshield. This was a different type of situation because
I had only gotten two hours of sleep due to the children. Maybe it was my brain’s way of showing me myself because I was feeling the fight or flight response.
 

CrapSandwich

former Navy SEAL
NDEs tend to follow cultural stories and trends. Which means obviously that you go to a different afterlife depending on where you happen to live.
 

Ownage

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I read a good NDE explanation that the white light you see as you pass is you being reborn, and the crying and noise you make as a baby is you mourning the knowledge being removed from your previous life as you begin a new one.

Trippy, but I can dig it.
 
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M1chl

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I read a good NDE explanation that the white light you see as you pass is you being reborn, and the crying and noise you make as a baby is you mourning the knowledge being removed from your previous life as you begin a new one.

Trippy, but I can dig it.
Well in that case I am on my last life.
 

QSD

Member
some research has been done into the phenomenon, but (surprise) it's controversial.


IIRC the cases that are hardest to explain are the ones where the subject is literally brain dead, yet they evidently have some kind of experience.
 

Dacon

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I've looked a lot into this subject, the more interesting cases are the ones that don't involved the afterlife visions, but the ones with out of body experiences that give them information they couldn't possibly have had while they were unconscious/dead.
 

Atrus

Gold Member
His brain was suffering from hypoxia which causes people to suffer from hallucinations and delusions.

If you want to experience what happens after death, go under general anesthesia. It’s a dreamless nothing between two points of lucidity except death is permanent.
 

kevm3

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His brain was suffering from hypoxia which causes people to suffer from hallucinations and delusions.

If you want to experience what happens after death, go under general anesthesia. It’s a dreamless nothing between two points of lucidity except death is permanent.
Being able to experience all sorts of different events in your life in a crystal clear fashion and having heightened senses doesn't sound like a hallucination or delusion to me.
 

danowat

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I always imagined "afterlife" is just a dream induced by your brain juices that might feel like eternity even if in fact it lasts just a couple of seconds.
I mean, time is relative and flexible, so it's quite possible that the last few seconds for last for eternity.......
 

UnNamed

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Maybe science doesn't have all the answers...
But science have this answer.

You see the cone of light because eyes stop to work almost completely and only the center part of the pupil still work. Since an image is made by your pupil goes crazy random in all directions, having the pupil still means you see only a confused light.

The sense of transportation is just your brain. It's the same feel jet pilots have in the Simulator when they try the centrifugal force machine.
 
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Atrus

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Being able to experience all sorts of different events in your life in a crystal clear fashion and having heightened senses doesn't sound like a hallucination or delusion to me.

Why not? Your memories are stored in your brain and your dying brain goes haywire before it ends. As the brain degenerates in living human beings, they often remember or relive moments in their distant past. After her stroke, my grandmother couldn't seem to recognize the current moment but was busy reliving moments from when she was a little girl.

Time perception, memories, sensory perception, cognition; all of these are altered and thrash about before you zero out into nothingess.
 

epicnemesis

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I've looked a lot into this subject, the more interesting cases are the ones that don't involved the afterlife visions, but the ones with out of body experiences that give them information they couldn't possibly have had while they were unconscious/dead.
There is one of these with a dad and son that died in the Nice truck terrorism incident. I forget the details, but essentially the son died before the dad, the dad had no way of knowing his son was dead, the dad as he was dying mentioned seeing his son.

That one is really hard to explain.
 

Ikutachi

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There are accounts of people who met dead relatives in the experience who they never met or knew. I don't think all cases can be dismissed as lolDMT.
 

Ikutachi

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I've looked a lot into this subject, the more interesting cases are the ones that don't involved the afterlife visions, but the ones with out of body experiences that give them information they couldn't possibly have had while they were unconscious/dead.
Interestingly, blind people could see in out of body experiences.
 

Airola

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Maybe the brain dumps memories all at once to decrease the amount of oxygen needed to function under stress. Like a cache dump.

Memory in itself is so weird.

Where on earth are those memories? Is memory just a combination of atoms, chemicals and electricity and whatever in certain order? You can have a vivid very audiovisual type of a view in your mind from what? You see something and the atoms in your brain go to certain combinations so that the memory will stay there so that even when you have not remembered a certain thing for the past 40 years at all you can suddenly have that memory in your mind almost completely vivid and have a nearly visual look into that memory.

It's like even more scifi sounding thing than any cyborg computer memory brain scifi story is, and my brain hurts when I try to make sense of any of it. And dreams are even crazier. Very often a dream looks, sounds and even feels just as real as actual real life, sometimes even more real. And you can see that with your eyes closed, hear that with your ears plugged, feel it without touching anything.

Purely biological and material evolution makes so little sense to me what comes to memories and dreams that it actually feels even more fantasy-like and sci-fi'ish than a theory like, say, memories and thoughts being at the same time in your brain and out of your brain by some weird-ass quantum shit feels like.
 

Airola

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Idk... I've "died" twice and it literally was just nothing. No consciousness, no awareness, no white light or anything. Not even darkness, at all. It was just nothing. Just like I never existed.

Then I was revived.

Or then you just forgot it like you forgot the last dream you saw 🤷‍♂️
 

Airola

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It's possible but like I had no awareness. Like when you dream and forget it, you still realize that you were dreaming.

But very often you don't even realize you had a dream, and sometimes you only passingly remember a fading memory of maybe seeing a dream but just a few moments later you forget even that. You have forgotten 99,999999% (number pulled out of my ass but you know what I mean) of the dreams you've seen. And you don't even remember forgetting them.

It's like just as you can't say to a person that when he goes to sleep he will remember the dreams next morning because for many it's just going to sleep and then waking up without even the realization that you were dreaming at some point, you can't say that if you have a near-death experience you will remember what you felt during that experience.

But what we know is that we occasionally have these weird nightly visual trips where we can see a house or a tree or whatever with our eyes closed, and sometimes we can sense very abstract things, like a sense of extraordinary love or whatever. Or at least I choose to believe that you have experienced same kind of nightly visual trips (dreams) that I have experienced because every people I know seem to know about dreams and I assume you and everyone else are no different from that. Now, because of the rarity of someone coming back from being dead or "dead" it's not an experience that many ever experience because most will not come back. So we can't compare these odd sounding near death experiences to our own experience and we kinda have to believe they are telling their subjective truth.

The only thing I know that we can experience is the sense of being removed from your body because that has happened to me, so I choose to believe that those who have told to have experienced the same thing are telling the truth, and because I know this experience can happen, I don't doubt these near-death-experiences either in that they are things these persons subjectively sense happening for real. It's another thing whether or not it's about some weird brain "bug" or an actual moment of a person being out of his body for real. But my point is that when someone says that he died, came back, and saw nothing, I can't see that as a proof of absolute nothingness because we can't remember the absolute majority of the moments when we were dreaming either even though it happens every single night. We forget almost every single dream we see and for the most of the time we don't even realize we were dreaming at all.


But really, as an end note, I often see people saying things like "it's just your brain doing this and that with your memory" or "it's just a dream-type of a thing", but the real fact is that we don't even really know what a memory or a dream actually physically is, or where they are and why they are. So it comes to me as a non-explanation because it ultimately just tries to explain a thing with an understandable sounding simple word that in reality is not a simple thing at all, and actually extremely far from a simple thing.
 

Ionian

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I can lucid dream, sometimes. Amazing what the mind can come up with. Have a place I go that keeps having new areas and every time I go back I remember where I am. NDE, I wouldn't discount it but at the same time could be the brain working overtime in the same respect.

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