Bobnob
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I got halfway through man. Couldn’t read it all
You done quite well
I got halfway through man. Couldn’t read it all
That’s functionally useless though, that’s marginally better than saying “It’s on www.YouTube.com have fun finding the real ones.” If your evidence has any chance of convincing anyone you’re going to need to show it and why it’s any different from fictional entertainment.Here you go.
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I am not claiming that every video posted there is real, some are clear fakes. But a lot feel genuine and can be seen as proof of the existence of ghosts.
Ok I can understand. I will try to find the original source of the videos from his channel that I feel show real evidence of ghosts.That’s functionally useless though, that’s marginally better than saying “It’s on www.YouTube.com have fun finding the real ones.” If your evidence has any chance of convincing anyone you’re going to need to show it and why it’s any different from fictional entertainment.
Although I agree with most of what you're posting, I do agree with S SUPERGGK that giving people the benefit of the doubt when they relate abnormal experiences is probably a good idea.Because there’s no evidence of anything paranormal. There’s evidence for the basis of all theoretical physics.
If a scientist were to claim to me that they had travelled through time, but failed to produce any evidence, I would ignore them. If a scientist claims the inflationary theory of the universe exists, using data showing how celestial bodies are moving away from one another constantly, based upon red shifting, I’m going to lend credence to their claims. I can see it for myself.
You can provide no demonstrable, first hand evidence of the paranormal that I am able to analyse and assess, whereas I am able to do that first hand with all scientific theory, should I choose to.
I am going to be very honest with you guys, for a long time I never believed in the existence of soul or ghosts because I knew that our consciousness is supported by billions of neurons in our brain; so how could a soul or consciousness survive without a body?
Since I believe that Gods created nanomachines to collect souls from our Earth and transport them to heaven or hell, I think that maybe some of these earlier machines malfunctioned and instead of carrying the souls to heaven or hell, the soul got trapped at the place of their death
It seems like the exact opposite is happening to many people as scientific understanding is increasing, I.e. the recent popularity of simulation theory as a legitimate prospect.I don’t believe in god because I have anything against the guy. I don’t believe in him because scientific understanding has shown me there’s no need for him to exist, beyond his use as a psychological crutch.
Even so, it will be the work of science and biology. Not paranormal fairy tales.In the future we would be able to live forever, it's not science fiction. I am just saying that maybe we are not the only species in the universe that has such advanced technology.
I'll take a look at it, thanksOP, have watched Surviving Death on Netflix yet. I watched the first episode last night. This will be right up your street. It's pretty interesting too
I think we will find our Gods by using science, rather than religion.It seems like the exact opposite is happening to many people as scientific understanding is increasing, I.e. the recent popularity of simulation theory as a legitimate prospect.
Science still hasn’t answered the fundamental questions.
But there is no evidence for infinite dimensions or time travel, so isn't it dishonest and unfair to ignore and discard all photos, videos and testimonies related to ghosts.
Have you seen the devices ghost hunters use today. Emp recorders, laser grids, thermal and night vision cameras and much more. But even if they catch something who is gonna treat it as evidence. Nobody. They are ghost hunters. Shouldn't such research be done by scientists? Why is there no branch of science that tries to investigate it? It's baffling.
Is there a afterlife? The most important question related to mankind, yet no scientist wants to discover it. Strange isn't it?
Although I agree with most of what you're posting, I do agree with S SUPERGGK that giving people the benefit of the doubt when they relate abnormal experiences is probably a good idea.
Obviously there are going to be some phenomena that are so rare and scarcely observed that we know very little about them; an example is ball lightning, or maybe the 'flashes of light' some people have reported seeing preceding an earthquake. Both phenomena are super rare and hard to observe scientifically so we should actually want people to come forward who have seen these things.
My grandmother on the maternal side actually had an encounter with what I think is ball lightning. She would sometimes relate the story of how she was sitting at her sowing machine in the evening (sometime in the 1930s-40s I assume, so I think those machines were part made of cast iron IIRC) when a 'ball of fire' flew into her room through the open window, bounced off her sowing machine and somehow (I don't remember the story very well, I could ask my mom) left the room she was in or dissipated. She never told any other tall tales of that ilk, so I am inclined to believe that she actually experienced that. I think it's sort of dismissive to go straight to debunking saying it was swamp gas or a psychotic break. You need to make some allowance for the possibility that there are phenomena out there that have yet to be discovered or properly described.
Other than that, even if the explanation is some kind of psychotic break or hallucination, then you still want people to come forward. The sooner psychosis is treated, the better the chance that someone will make a full recovery.
So not stigmatizing people is a thing to keep in mind
It seems like the exact opposite is happening to many people as scientific understanding is increasing, I.e. the recent popularity of simulation theory as a legitimate prospect.
Science still hasn’t answered the fundamental questions.
The origin of the universe and life are two pretty outstanding questions. The big bang and abiogenesis fall into this category, atm:See, I know you won’t agree with this, but for a vast majority of those questions... it absolutely has. Certainly enough to remove any need for gods or creators, in my opinion - and the opinion of many, many others.
There‘s a few things outstanding, but they’ll get to them
Because there‘s no actual proof of either. There are theories which suggest they could exist, based on scientific evidence, but no more than that.
I bet that guy rode a motorcycle before the interview.
It's pointless to argue in circles as you don't want to even look at the evidence.Mate... come on.
There isn’t a serious scientist on earth claiming time travel is real (in the Hollywood sense. Relativity dictates that time moves at different speeds depending on the position of the observer. This is fact), or that parallel dimension exist - Because there‘s no actual proof of either. There are theories which suggest they could exist, based on scientific evidence, but no more than that.
Yes, of course it’s fair to disregard all ‘evidence’ that ghosts exist because they don’t... Because, as I mentioned before, they do not obey the laws of thermodynamics. Every scientist worth their salt working in physics, biology and chemistry knows they can’t and don’t exist, because of their understanding of the natural world. Why on earth would they investigate them? Might as well investigate pixies at the bottom of the garden!
Lens flare, recording artefact error, or faked via physical interference or post process editing.See the video and try to debunk it.
A family will try to fake it, for what exactly?Lens flare, recording artefact error, or faked via physical interference or post process editing.
To be popular on the internet and get attention from gullible people, which can be monetized.A family will try to fake it, for what exactly?
Oh yeah, a family traumatized their baby and then used sophisticated hollywood grade software to create such real looking translucent human shapes to get money and fame, even though the video is not monetized or there is no link to donations. I fail to understand the urge to debunk anything and everything related to ghosts no matter how credible the evidence. People will say anything to try to debunk such videos, no matter how crazy they sound. I have read some people calling ghosts visitors from extra dimensions or residents from the negative universe and god knows what. But no calling them ghosts or soul is crazy even though every evidence points towards it.To be popular on the internet and get attention from gullible people, which can be monetized.
It's pointless to argue in circles as you don't want to even look at the evidence.
Here is the evidence that supports the existence of ghosts.
Real ghost seen on camera
Just because you don't want to believe in the existence of ghosts or Gods and deny all evidence, it won't make it so. See the video and try to debunk it.
The origin of the universe and life are two pretty outstanding questions. The big bang and abiogenesis fall into this category, atm:
Mate, no disrespect to you too as well but I don't think you have any grasp about the laws of our universe that are unbreakable. No matter how some scientists try to deform quantum mechanics to suit their agendas it won't be able to break the fundamental rule that energy can neither be created nor be destroyed, so there goes infinite dimensions supported by string theory. Quantum mechanics proves time is absolute so there goes time travel down the drain.Mate. There are countless reasons for so called ‘phenomena’ that appear on cameras. But I doubt directing you to any websites or articles that soundly debunk this kind of stuff is going to convince you!
Ultimately, if you have a decent working knowledge of the physics that power our universe, you know that ghosts don’t exist, and all instances of such things can be easily dismissed.
I’d encourage you to pick up books, or watch videos, from some respected physicists that prove all of this - because it’s all stuff you can see with your own two eyes should you wish to.
I do not mean to demean or talk down to anyone, but I can assure you that a better grasp on the complexities of things like thermodynamics, quantum states, space time, electromagnetism, and the standard model would show you how none of this stuff exists... and that in actual fact the truth is far more fascinating.
There is no creator of our universe. Our universe is the creator. The universe itself is the ultimate God. It was referred to as the cosmic ocean or the Parmatma or the ultimate being in many old religions of our world. Noone created universe. The universe has existed forever and will continue to exist forever. And I also believe that the universe has a consciousness of its own. And this consciousness or energy creates life.Yep, those are the ones I’m on about.
If you choose to see a god figure at the centre of those unanswered questions, then nothing I can say can stop you.
However, it’s just a matter of time until we do have a better understanding of them, and what little credence there might be left for the existence of god will end.
...although to be honest, the beginning of life is largely explained by eukaryotic cells anyway...
I think calling something 'impossible' goes too far, the best you can do is call something 'highly improbable'. You don't know to where your knowledge of real world physics extends compared to the parts of real world physics that are as yet unknown. You might only know 10%...I wouldn’t put ball lightning in the same cateory and ghosts, to be honest. One could be a potential phenomenon caused by real world physics. The other is impossible - for reasons I’ve already mentioned.
I’m certainly not trying to stigmatise anyone. Everyone should be free to entertain whatever ideas they choose to. But the real world is inescapable, as are the rules that govern it. I’m just highlighting that.
...which is why this is a short sighted take. Almost every scientist will say that every question they answer leads to 10 more questions. So strongly disagree that there are "a few things outstanding".See, I know you won’t agree with this, but for a vast majority of those questions... it absolutely has. Certainly enough to remove any need for gods or creators, in my opinion - and the opinion of many, many others.
There‘s a few things outstanding, but they’ll get to them
Yep, those are the ones I’m on about.
If you choose to see a god figure at the centre of those unanswered questions, then nothing I can say can stop you.
However, it’s just a matter of time until we do have a better understanding of them, and what little credence there might be left for the existence of god will end.
...although to be honest, the beginning of life is largely explained by eukaryotic cells anyway...
I can't stop you from thinking it's all an accident either, you have that faith it will be proven someday.Yep, those are the ones I’m on about.
If you choose to see a god figure at the centre of those unanswered questions, then nothing I can say can stop you.
However, it’s just a matter of time until we do have a better understanding of them, and what little credence there might be left for the existence of god will end.
I'll be interested when they largely explain how you can get DNA without a cell membrane, or vice versa. That's a big unscientific leap to create a theory....although to be honest, the beginning of life is largely explained by eukaryotic cells anyway...
Viruses are RNA and they don't have a cell membrane, so it's not that far of a leap.I'll be interested when they largely explain how you can get DNA without a cell membrane, or vice versa. That's a big unscientific leap to create a theory.
This will never happen.
I can't stop you from thinking it's all an accident either, you have that faith it will be proven someday.
I'll be interested when they largely explain how you can get DNA without a cell membrane, or vice versa. That's a big unscientific leap to create a theory.
Awesome, thanks!! I love ghosts and the supernatural,Here you go.
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I am not claiming that every video posted there is real, some are clear fakes. But a lot feel genuine and can be seen as proof of the existence of ghosts.
When the choice is between it being ghosts or not ghosts, any amount of elaborate and expensive is still more likely than that ghost footage being real despite everything else that claims the same being fake. While that may sound like being in denial to you, it’s probability.Oh yeah, a family traumatized their baby and then used sophisticated hollywood grade software to create such real looking translucent human shapes to get money and fame, even though the video is not monetized or there is no link to donations. I fail to understand the urge to debunk anything and everything related to ghosts no matter how credible the evidence. People will say anything to try to debunk such videos, no matter how crazy they sound. I have read some people calling ghosts visitors from extra dimensions or residents from the negative universe and god knows what. But no calling them ghosts or soul is crazy even though every evidence points towards it.
I have a theory too.
Yeah..... it really will, you know
If you think about it, both RNA(or DNA) and water have hydrogen bonds and both are essential for life. I think there is a clear link between the hydrogen bonds and the condition called life.Viruses are RNA and they don't have a cell membrane, so it's not that far of a leap.
Thanks man, really appreciate it. I know my thoughts and hypothesis sound crazy to some, but to me they feel less crazy than string theory or infinite dimensions or ghosts being interdimensional beings or what not. I feel that what I am saying can and will be possible in the near future. Just imagine we being able to switch between different bodies to extend our lives forever. Future sound crazy and so much fun.
Here are my thoughts why I believe that soul is not something different from our mind and body and is a part of it; and therefore can't survive without a bodyMany answers can be found in the ancient esoteric texts of old from China, India, Japan etc. Shintoism, Esoteric Buddhism, Taoism. The cosmology according to the ancient world is very interesting. Also explains what ghosts are and why they sometimes still haunt the living. Most of it comes down to a sick sort of attachment to this world and/or the people living in it,according to them, as far as i know. (I dont know much)
Of course the soul remains even when the body dies. If you want you can experience this through meditation, although i wouldn't go with what currently passes as meditation in the west. You could also experience astral travel but without a mentor these practices can be dangerous.
There are many answers out there, and even more half truths and dangerous cults. But no matter which way you go, as the old saying says, if you seek you will find, eventually.
you seem so sure that he didn't lick a socket.I bet that guy rode a motorcycle before the interview.
That doesn't even make sense. Have you really never seen a ghost or a shadow or energy. Have you never felt the pure love of a small child? We come from some place uncorrupted and we come here into this dual reality for some reason. Existence is eternal which is beyond our imagination.You based all that on spooky youtube videos?
Every video can be debunked.
The hard truth is, when we die it's over. Sorry, no eternal conciousness in any form. You won't exist just like you didn't before you were born.
Yes, you really want to believe all that nonsense because you can't accept your own mortality.That doesn't even make sense. Have you really never seen a ghost or a shadow or energy. Have you never felt the pure love of a small child? We come from some place uncorrupted and we come here into this dual reality for some reason. Existence is eternal which is beyond our imagination.
In an ideal world science and spirituality would be uncorrupted and go hand in hand. But here we have amnesia.
We enter the form and the world through birth and we exit through death. It's just a trip.
The question is do we really know how to truly exit this reality or do we keep reincarnating like the orouboros.
The tip of the world is occult, ruled by black magic. Who are we and why have we forgotten or been made to forget?
People are under total mind control on this planet. And there's a war going on on all levels. Against humanity, innocence, love and purity.
It's all a sham but people still fall for it. No one should think the same as anyone else just to feel included or unostracised. Don't become like a hivemind. This is what the anti humans are like. The inhumans. The current owners of our planet.
Yes, you really want to believe all that nonsense because you can't accept your own mortality.