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I NEED SCISSORS
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TheExodu5 said:
How loud is that cooler? I just got a Scythe Shuriken because it's a mere 35dB under load, but it cools my CPU less effectively than the stock cooler.
I feel that for coolers you're either in the market for a quiet one or an effective one. I'd just like to know what I missed out on as yours looks pretty good.
I NEED SCISSORS said:
It's a 120mm fan spinning at 1400rpm and keeping my temps at 38C. It's extremely quiet (could run it at much lower speeds...but it's basically the same speed as my case fans right now).
Anyways I'm hitting a wall...and my northbridge isn't the problem. My problem is my memory. I have 2 good sticks and 2 shitty stick...problem is my good sticks are just 2x1GB.
I can't adjust my RAM ratio for some reason. Also, loosening the timings makes it so my computer doesn't boot. I'll attribute these problems to Q8300 + 1333fsb only being supported by my beta firmware.
brain_stew
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Schlomo said:
Because that's complete BS perhaps?
If you're going with AMD then the 925 and 955 are the CPUs to consider, but if you've got the money for an Intel setup then go with an Intel setup.
I NEED SCISSORS
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I can imagine. Big fan + slow speed often results in low noise.TheExodu5 said:
I just checked out the dimensions of it. It wouldn't fit in my case (too tall), so I think I made the right choice. Thanks!
brain_stew
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darkpaladinmfc said:
Samsung F3.
Lkr said:
If its stable under your current voltage then use that. You can probably get away with raising it to 1.3v if you can't get it stable under that but don't go any further.
brain_stew
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Gully State said:
Ofcourse you can, what made you believe you'd need to uninstall CCC?
BravoSuperStar
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TheExodu5 said:It's a 120mm fan spinning at 1400rpm and keeping my temps at 38C. It's extremely quiet (could run it at much lower speeds...but it's basically the same speed as my case fans right now).
Anyways I'm hitting a wall...and my northbridge isn't the problem. My problem is my memory. I have 2 good sticks and 2 shitty stick...problem is my good sticks are just 2x1GB.
I can't adjust my RAM ratio for some reason. Also, loosening the timings makes it so my computer doesn't boot. I'll attribute these problems to Q8300 + 1333fsb only being supported by my beta firmware.
Did u try upping the voltage to the RAM? And did u go out and buy that new CPU like immediately after seeing your board supported it?
I NEED SCISSORS
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I just wanted to mention in this thread: GPU coolers are awesome. Way under-rated compared to CPU coolers.
I picked up an Arctic Cooling Accelero Twin Turbo and it is fantastic, aids in overclocking beautifully. This particular model comes with pre-applied MX-2 and, get this, 6 years of warranty. I'll hopefully still be rocking this thing in 2016 with DirectX 14 cards.
And of course there are other options such as the Scythe Musashi, and I believe Zalman has a solution as well. The only negative 4890 users need to consider is that the supplied VRM heatsinks suck, so it's best to stick with the stock ones.
I picked up an Arctic Cooling Accelero Twin Turbo and it is fantastic, aids in overclocking beautifully. This particular model comes with pre-applied MX-2 and, get this, 6 years of warranty. I'll hopefully still be rocking this thing in 2016 with DirectX 14 cards.
And of course there are other options such as the Scythe Musashi, and I believe Zalman has a solution as well. The only negative 4890 users need to consider is that the supplied VRM heatsinks suck, so it's best to stick with the stock ones.
SuperEnemyCrab said:Did u try upping the voltage to the RAM? And did u go out and buy that new CPU like immediately after seeing your board supported it?
Yes and yes.
It's weird...upping to 2.0V makes it even more unstable. Thing is, I shouldn't have to up the voltage at all...I'm running within specification and Orthos still gives me rounding errors.
BravoSuperStar
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TheExodu5 said:
thats awesome, about the CPU that is, not the memory. It could be the beta bios for sure though. Or maybe back off on the timings? (nevermind, i see you tried that)
Gully State
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brain_stew said:
no idea... 2 programs giving similar inputs, I figured there would be issues...thanks for info.
WickedLaharl
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things are not going well. i got everything together but once I hit the power button the computer turns on, the fan turns on, then everything turns off after a couple seconds, and then back on and off. it does this until i unplug it.
here are the parts i used
-LITE-ON Black 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support
-SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
-G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
-Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
-XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
-GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
-Antec Sonata III 500 Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply
please help me!!
here are the parts i used
-LITE-ON Black 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support
-SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
-G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
-Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
-XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
-GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
-Antec Sonata III 500 Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply
please help me!!
WickedLaharl
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okay i missed a connection called atx 12v 2x4.
i'll connect that and report back if it fixed the problem or not.
i'll connect that and report back if it fixed the problem or not.
WickedLaharl
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ahh, well, that was the problem. power is no longer fluctuating!
now i just need to hook a display into it and see if i get anything on screen.
now i just need to hook a display into it and see if i get anything on screen.
SuperEnemyCrab said:
Although I've still got shitty RAM, it's mostly my fault.
I had 4 sticks, 2x1GB sticks, and 2x2GB sticks.
2x1GB pair: DDR2-6400 4-4-4 @ 2.1V
2GB pair: DDR2-6400 6-6-6 @ 1.8V
Basically, my 1GB pair wasn't getting enough voltage (even though I was running at the loosened timings of 6-6-6-18). I fixed the stability issue by taking out my 1GB pair. Since it's such shitty RAM though, I still can't break much past 3.0GHz.
Oh well...I still got a huge performance boost for a measily $160 CDN. I wasn't willing on plopping down anything for the current i5 systems (not a big enough performance difference to justify $450), so this was perfect for me. Should serve me for 1-2 more years now, until upgrading the entire system becomes justifiable.
I need to figure out how to get my chassis fans and CPU fans running slower.
CPU fan is running at 1400RPM, and 2 of my chassis fans are running at 1200RPM. My last chassis fan is connected directly to the power supply with a variable resistor and running at 900RPM.
Since I'm getting load temps of less than 45C, I think I can manage to bring all my fans down to 900RPM and still stay within normal temps. I want to see how quiet I can make this.
Is there a good front-bay fan controller that can power 4 fans?
CPU fan is running at 1400RPM, and 2 of my chassis fans are running at 1200RPM. My last chassis fan is connected directly to the power supply with a variable resistor and running at 900RPM.
Since I'm getting load temps of less than 45C, I think I can manage to bring all my fans down to 900RPM and still stay within normal temps. I want to see how quiet I can make this.
Is there a good front-bay fan controller that can power 4 fans?
My god damned mini fridge is louder than my PC now. :lol
I gotta completely recommend this Scythe Mugen 2 CPU HSF. It's absolutely insane. You could probably passively cool a stock clocked quad core. I turned on Asus Q-Fan control, and set it to "Optimal". Never needs to spin faster than 500rpm, which is completely inaudible.
I gotta completely recommend this Scythe Mugen 2 CPU HSF. It's absolutely insane. You could probably passively cool a stock clocked quad core. I turned on Asus Q-Fan control, and set it to "Optimal". Never needs to spin faster than 500rpm, which is completely inaudible.
brain_stew
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scitek said:
Does your receiver support multi channel LPCM over HDMI? Have you configured within the Windows control panel for surround sound? Got the latest realtek HDMI audio driver?
brain_stew
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scitek said:
You need the HDMI audio driver for your ATI card, install that, then configure it within Windows.
GPU fan is the hardest to get right. I'm going to try to maintain the lowest speed possible so that I stay below 85C under full load (Furmark stressing). The automatic control brings it over 50% speed which is unbearable.
Too bad there are no good and cheap cooling solutions for the GTX 275. =\
edit: at 35% fan speed I'm getting 87C. I can live with that.
Too bad there are no good and cheap cooling solutions for the GTX 275. =\
edit: at 35% fan speed I'm getting 87C. I can live with that.
Azure Dream
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It's been about ten days since I posted about my sister's build, back on page 23. Truthfully I haven't really had a lot of time to shop on it, but we did stop at the local Microcenter and see what they had for prices and availability, since it's nice to be able to return parts locally when possible.
She did have a few hesitations about the build suggested by Brain_Stew. We looked at an OEM Lite-On DVD drive they had there, and externally they seemed a little flimsy. Are they reliable, or were they suggested with a more disposable mindset? (Buy cheap, swap it out when it eventually dies.)
She wants to push a little harder on the specs, since she's getting the new PC as a gift, and can't really count on having the money to upgrade later. One thing we saw was that this processor was recommended by Brain_Stew, Microcenter had this one for $189, any issues with switching to this processor instead over the one recommended? It looked like it would still be compatible with the same motherboard.
This video card (HIS H577FM1GD Radeon HD 5770 1GB) was recommended, but it wasn't available as a 5770 in-store by HIS. There was one by XFX, this one I believe. The reviews aren't the best, though. Is XFX usually okay, or a brand to avoid?
She didn't hate the case mentioned, but I don't think she was thrilled by it. Shopping for a case on our own, what should we make sure is there for the Phenom build? Any considerations of size, slots, etc?
Thanks for any help you might provide. I know I'm asking some basic things, but I figure better to be sure first instead of buying expensive components, then trying to return them when they won't work together. Also, we're still looking for (HD) capture card or netbook recommendations, if anyone has them. We did get the monitor while on sale, good timing too since hers died the morning of the day it arrived.
She did have a few hesitations about the build suggested by Brain_Stew. We looked at an OEM Lite-On DVD drive they had there, and externally they seemed a little flimsy. Are they reliable, or were they suggested with a more disposable mindset? (Buy cheap, swap it out when it eventually dies.)
She wants to push a little harder on the specs, since she's getting the new PC as a gift, and can't really count on having the money to upgrade later. One thing we saw was that this processor was recommended by Brain_Stew, Microcenter had this one for $189, any issues with switching to this processor instead over the one recommended? It looked like it would still be compatible with the same motherboard.
This video card (HIS H577FM1GD Radeon HD 5770 1GB) was recommended, but it wasn't available as a 5770 in-store by HIS. There was one by XFX, this one I believe. The reviews aren't the best, though. Is XFX usually okay, or a brand to avoid?
She didn't hate the case mentioned, but I don't think she was thrilled by it. Shopping for a case on our own, what should we make sure is there for the Phenom build? Any considerations of size, slots, etc?
Thanks for any help you might provide. I know I'm asking some basic things, but I figure better to be sure first instead of buying expensive components, then trying to return them when they won't work together. Also, we're still looking for (HD) capture card or netbook recommendations, if anyone has them. We did get the monitor while on sale, good timing too since hers died the morning of the day it arrived.
WickedLaharl
Member
after hours of work i've finally been able to boot into bios!! now to install an os.
darkpaladinmfc
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What is the best 1TB HDD I can get for £80 or below? It'll be for 'everything' (ie, Games, OS, etc).
brain_stew
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darkpaladinmfc said:
I already answered your question....................
Im sorry if this is a bit off topic but I just had an amazing experience with my new computer and I wanted to share it.
So recently I built a pretty solid core i7 machine. I've been really happy playing crysis maxed out and all that but something just happened that really floored me. I encoded Apocalypse Now, a 3 hour movie, in under 2 minuets. Now, I've been encoding DVDs for some time. I've always preferred to have a HTPC over a typical disk based system. The first DVD I encoded was The Fifth Element. I remember because I was very excited to have figured it out and gotten it to work correctly. Keep in mind it wasn't as easy and straight forward as it is today. Anyway, this was done on a Comaq P2 266 and it took, I shit you not, almost two weeks per disk. So again, I just encoded a three hour movie in under two minutes.
Oh
My
GOD!
When it finished I was in shock. The report said it was encoding at an average of 4000 frames per second. I did the math and that checks out.
30 fps X 60 second per minute = 1,800 frames per minute x 60 minutes = 108,000 frames per hour x 3 hours = 324,000 / 4000fps encoding = about 81 seconds or under 2 min.
Amazing.
So recently I built a pretty solid core i7 machine. I've been really happy playing crysis maxed out and all that but something just happened that really floored me. I encoded Apocalypse Now, a 3 hour movie, in under 2 minuets. Now, I've been encoding DVDs for some time. I've always preferred to have a HTPC over a typical disk based system. The first DVD I encoded was The Fifth Element. I remember because I was very excited to have figured it out and gotten it to work correctly. Keep in mind it wasn't as easy and straight forward as it is today. Anyway, this was done on a Comaq P2 266 and it took, I shit you not, almost two weeks per disk. So again, I just encoded a three hour movie in under two minutes.
Oh
My
GOD!
When it finished I was in shock. The report said it was encoding at an average of 4000 frames per second. I did the math and that checks out.
30 fps X 60 second per minute = 1,800 frames per minute x 60 minutes = 108,000 frames per hour x 3 hours = 324,000 / 4000fps encoding = about 81 seconds or under 2 min.
Amazing.
darkpaladinmfc
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Whoops, sorry about that, and thanks.brain_stew said:
