Oni Jazar said:After 6 years of laptop only gaming, I finally have the room to go back to true desktop PC power.
I've built PCs before but I think I should rather avoid the hassle of putting everything together only to find out a part isn't working, then having to go through the trouble of finding out what it is.
So I went to CyberPower.com and spec'd this machine:
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# Case: Apevia X-Dreamer 3 Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Side-Panel Window & Temperature Display
# Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Default case fans
# Noise Reduction Technology: None
# Power Supply Upgrade: 600 Watts Power Supplies [+26] (XtremeGear SLI/CrossFireX Ready Power Supply)
# CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-860 2.80 GHz 8M L2 Cache LGA1156
# Cooling Fan: Asetek LCLC 120 Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Extreme Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
# Motherboard: [CrossFireX] GigaByte GA-P55A-UD3 Intel P55 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, 2 x SATA-III RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1, & 3 PCI
# Memory: 4GB (2GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module [+49] (Corsair or Major Brand)
# Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 5850 PCI-E 16X 1GB Video Card [DirectX 11 Support] (Major Brand Powered by ATI)
# Hard Drive: Single Hard Drive (128 GB Kingston 2.5 inch SATA Gaming MLC Solid State Disk (Nearly Instant Data Access Technology))
# Data Hard Drive: Single Hard Drive (1.5TB (1TBx1) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
# Optical Drive: LG CH08-LS10K 8X Blu-Ray Player & DVDRW Combo Drive
The total comes out to $1555 which is higher then the GAF 'bang for the buck' build but then this build 1) has some bigger & faster parts like the 120Gb solid state drive with 1.5TB additional HDD , blu-ray player, & i7 CPU, 2) includes Windows 7, keyboard/mouse, 3) I really like not having to mess with thermal paste, heat sinks and 4) hopefully they test it so that it runs great on day one.
Is this a good idea? Am I wasting some money on upgrades like i7 or should I avoid cyberpower entirely?
Brazil said:Hello, PC guys.
I've never really been a PC gamer. But, with Steam, I'm willing to change that.
My Dell came with an ATI Radeon HD 4350 and it's on Windows 7 64-bit, but I couldn't even get Mass Effect running as good as I thought I could. It has a Core 2 Duo 3.16 GHz processor and 3GB of RAM.
I don't know if its possible with my processor, but I want to be able to run games like BioShock 2, Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 perfectly on it, like I would (or better than I would) on the PS3 or the 360.
Which graphics card do you guys recommend? Should I upgrade my RAM? Should I throw away my processor?
Thanks in advance![]()
Which numbers should I be looking for? There is a sticker here, but I have no clue. :lolDoytch said:@Brazil: The graphics card is your limiting factor there. Thing with Dells is that you have to be careful about the power supply currently in there and replacement PSU compatibility. You could open it up and see if there's a big sticker with a bunch of current/voltage info on the power supply. Or it should be possible to grep the info in a Google search.
In any case, your box should be able to support a 5770. Maybe you could run a 5850 but I really have no clue how good the power supplies Dell uses are.
Don't just buy any power supply. Check to see if your motherboard is ATX or BTX.Brazil said:Hello, PC guys.
I've never really been a PC gamer. But, with Steam, I'm willing to change that.
My Dell came with an ATI Radeon HD 4350 and it's on Windows 7 64-bit, but I couldn't even get Mass Effect running as good as I thought I could. It has a Core 2 Duo 3.16 GHz processor and 3GB of RAM.
I don't know if its possible with my processor, but I want to be able to run games like BioShock 2, Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 perfectly on it, like I would (or better than I would) on the PS3 or the 360.
Which graphics card do you guys recommend? Should I upgrade my RAM? Should I throw away my processor?
Thanks in advance![]()
scitek said:Once I get my machine all set up and verify it's working, should I run it stock for a while or go ahead and see how much I can overclock it from the start?
It's ATX. What does that mean?Fox318 said:Don't just buy any power supply. Check to see if your motherboard is ATX or BTX.
Baker said:So what is the most basic first step for OC'ing my i7 860? I really have no clue what is going on when it comes to this stuff.
I tried out that CPU-Z program last night and I swore it said my clock speed was around 3400. Does that mean Turbo Boost alone is bumping it up that high? Or am I just a moron and that was a completely unassociated number?
I also haven't bumped my ram up to 1600 yet. Is that something I should look in to? I think they're at 1333 now.
xerxesiani said:It's like a whole new world opened up for me when I discovered Steam. Thus I decided to buy a myself a gaming PC.
Currently I'm looking at these specs:
Case: Coolermaster HAF 922
Mobo: Asus Rampage II GENE
CPU: Core i7-920
CPU Cooler: Coolermaster V8
Memory: 8gb ddr3 1333
GFX: XFX 2GB HD5970 Black Edition
PSU: XFX 850W Black Edition ATX
HDD 1: Corsair P64 Performance Series 64GB SSD
HDD 2: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
Any suggestions? I'm planning to hook it up to my tv and I want to play everything at max settings.
Also, Steam is bad for your wallet :-(
Devildoll said:the 1366 platform has 3 memory channels , which means you want to run the memory in pairs of 3 , the most standard thing to do is to go 3x2 gb , this making the memory run in tripplechannel , giving you extra bandwidth , if you run 8 gb , im guessing it will be a dual channel solution
im not sure how much impact the tripplechannel has over dualchannel in real world performance , but why pass it up when you are building a system like that.
Devildoll said:you really need to read about overclocking , dont do anything if you are unsure.
Spy said:-Add PC Building Guide section
-Add Overclocking section
-Add Contribution section
check out the sites under news in the op , they should have some articles on overclocking aswell.dekjo said:It'd be nice to have some OC resources added to OP.
Oni Jazar said:Hmm.. well they offer an 80 GB Intel X25-M 2.5 inch SATA Gaming MLC Solid State Disk for $10 more but then I lose nearly 50Gb. I thought Kingston would be a good name brand.
being this is the "I need a new PC thread", I think most will whole heartedly say you should be getting no new OS except for Windows 7. and if you have a 64-bit CPU, install the 64-bit version.panda21 said:so which OS's should I get? I know xp will suffice for a lot but i think some require 7, but some also don't work with 7? or should i go for vista (i'm thinking not)?
panda21 said:so which OS's should I get? I know xp will suffice for a lot but i think some require 7, but some also don't work with 7? or should i go for vista (i'm thinking not)?
Thank you.brain_stew said:You can use the $600 US build as a base, maybe switch the 5770 for a 5850 if it comes in budget. Its hard to recommend specific parts without knowing the prices charged at your local etailer.
SuperEnemyCrab said:Edit: Also I hope you really understand what you're getting yourself into with a water cooling setup. If this is your first time using something like this I hope you are prepared.
borghe said:being this is the "I need a new PC thread", I think most will whole heartedly say you should be getting no new OS except for Windows 7. and if you have a 64-bit CPU, install the 64-bit version.
eternal prize said:win7 64 if you can
10.1 just came out if you want to give it a try.pestul said:Hmm, now when I try to overclock my Sapphire 5850, I get lockups when passing 775 core in accelerated video. When I disable DXVA in say WMP-HC it seems to work. I'll report back.. I'm using Shark007 32/64bit codec pack.. perhaps that's not a good idea. Although, it manages to crash the Windows Experience Index at 'Tuning Windows Media Encoding' also.
It works fine in games overclocked.. just not video. I'm using the 9.12 Hotfix drivers. Wonder if they're the cause.
It's a minor update. From what I've seen in the roadmap for 10.2 and 10.3, those should be pretty hefty releases.Minsc said:Can't wait to see some feedback and how the 3D support panned out if it made the cut.
vocab said:Anyone having problems with low res cutscenes in games? I fired up DragonAge. In game looks clean, but the cutscene looks ps1 quality. This can't be normal.
Oni Jazar said:Uh. I'm not prepared. What do I need to do to get prepared?
As stupid as it looks, that's just how it is. They compress the shit out of videos to get everything to fit on the disc.vocab said:Anyone having problems with low res cutscenes in games? I fired up DragonAge. In game looks clean, but the cutscene looks ps1 quality. This can't be normal.
mikespit1200 said:Here's the latest build I've been toying with for budget parts on what will basically by my Steam box since I have a laptop. Case, SATA HDD, Optical and Win7 x64 are taken care of. Running on a 1680 x 1050 monitor. Any thoughts on the Vapor X 5770? Is there a model with better cooling?
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SuperEnemyCrab said:Water cooling is comparable to having a really good looking but emotionally unstable high-maintenance girlfriend.
SuperEnemyCrab said:It's easily worth the extra $20 to go with a Athlon 620 quad core.
Zzoram said:I also noticed cutscenes being low res looking. I have no idea why, other than to save space on the disc for console versions, and them not redoing the cutscene for PC.



mikespit1200 said:I thought about that, but I'm trying my damndest to keep this thing under $500 and most of the CPU intensive stuff I'm doing (Dolphin, GTA4) either doesn't take advantage of more than 2 cores or is more dependent on Clockspeeds as the 435 is a better OC according to research. Plus, I have a chance at unlocking that 4th core anyways, hopefully.
brain_stew said:Well they're all shit parts, and definitely don't come recommended. There's buying "bang for buck" components and sticking to a budget and then there's just buying trash, that build would fall into the latter category. At those sorts of prices, you're usually better off with an off the shelf machine.