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brain_stew said:
Well new ones are selling for $200 these days, so you might be able to get the best part of $150 each. I know here in the UK they cost more than I paid for mine about a year ago, and that came with a copy of Vantage and Mirror's Edge. Pretty smart investment that was.
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so i can get those prices if sell on e-bay or craigslist? what's a good place to sell?
 
I can't get over the changes from running my games in 1440x900 on lowest to the sane on highest.

Detail, physics, particles, hdr, like different games.

Can't wait to play more DoW2 next to check out CoH.

I'm in love with my new pc, just wish steam would hurry up!
 
Gowans007 said:
I can't get over the changes from running my games in 1440x900 on lowest to the sane on highest.

Detail, physics, particles, hdr, like different games.

Can't wait to play more DoW2 next to check out CoH.

I'm in love with my new pc, just wish steam would hurry up!
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Welcome to the master race :D
 
So who here knows what laptop mice are the shit?

it would have to be fairly small but not micro-size, i wanna do some gaming with this thing.

Also, is it better to go with my laptop's internal bluetooth? (it's got whatever the newest bluetooth is, 2.1?) or should I go with something that has a tiny bluetooth usb dongle?
 
Romance Pie said:
have you patched CS4 to 11.0.1? there were a few bugs with the GPU acceleration, and also change the scratch disk to another quick drive other than your C:

Increasing the amount of ram PS can use up to 60%-65% could help as well.

What are the actual slow downs are you getting? and are you running the 64 version of CS4? I noticed that it installs two versions of CS4
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both the 32 and 64 bit versions are slow. just opening a 1600x1200 image and using the lasso is slow. It's not even real time! There's a lag between the time i press the button and the lasso takes effect. CS4 can't be this unoptimized :(

I did change the scratch disk to other drives, increasing the memory usage and updating to 11.01 but that didn't help.
 
Gowans007 said:
I can't get over the changes from running my games in 1440x900 on lowest to the sane on highest.

Detail, physics, particles, hdr, like different games.

Can't wait to play more DoW2 next to check out CoH.

I'm in love with my new pc, just wish steam would hurry up!
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Finally you can make use of those floppy disks in your avatar.
 
Hey guys, how far behind is gaming performance on laptops to comparable priced desktops. I know there will always be a sizable gap, but is it better now? I'd like a good gaming laptop for under $1000, is this possible or wishful thinking?
 
MoxManiac said:
Hey guys, how far behind is gaming performance on laptops to comparable priced desktops. I know there will always be a sizable gap, but is it better now? I'd like a good gaming laptop for under $1000, is this possible or wishful thinking?
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Just looking at Bestbuy.com, most $900-1000 "gaming" laptops have either a nVidia 330M or Radeon HD 4670 in them. From the few benchmarks I can find, that seems to be comparable to something like a 8800GT.
 
MoxManiac said:
Hey guys, how far behind is gaming performance on laptops to comparable priced desktops. I know there will always be a sizable gap, but is it better now? I'd like a good gaming laptop for under $1000, is this possible or wishful thinking?
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For under $1000 you can easily buy a laptop that will keep up with all current gen games. You just have to make sure you buy something a descent dedicated GPU. For under $1000 you'll probably be looking at machines with a Nvidia GT 240M / GT 335M or maybe an ATI Radeon HD 4650 which will probably pull in 30+ FPS on high settings for most games in my experience... much more for lower settings obviously and even more if you stick with a modest sized laptop without a huge screen resolution.
 
Slo said:
Just looking at Bestbuy.com, most $900-1000 "gaming" laptops have either a nVidia 330M or Radeon HD 4670 in them. From the few benchmarks I can find, that seems to be comparable to something like a 8800GT.
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The $900 asus have GTX 260s in them, the 330 is a pretty weak laptop card... the 260s performance is double that

is equivalent to a "9800M GTX with slightly higher clock rates of 550/1375/950 against 500/1250/800. It is produced in 55nm. Therefore, it is not similar to the Desktop GTX 260 but somewhat similar to the 9800 GT."


"The performance of the GT 330M should be similar to the GeForce GT 240M and therefore located in the middle class in the range of the Mobility Radeon HD 4650."
 
Orellio said:
Well, it will always be Gears of War regardless what platform you play it on. Beyond that, the port is fine.
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I mean as in the port. I love the 360 game, I want to try it on my master race though
 
TouchMyBox said:
So who here knows what laptop mice are the shit?

it would have to be fairly small but not micro-size, i wanna do some gaming with this thing.

Also, is it better to go with my laptop's internal bluetooth? (it's got whatever the newest bluetooth is, 2.1?) or should I go with something that has a tiny bluetooth usb dongle?
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I'm looking at either Logitech's new Marathon Mouse (uses the newer unifying small USB nub) or their older VX Nano (also has a small USB nub, but not the unifying one) for my netbook...whatever I can find the best deal on either.

But I'm kinda leaning more towards the Marathon based on its claims of being able to run on a single set of AA batteries for about 3 years.
 
Odious Tea said:
Wholeheartedly agree. What'd you end up doing, buying one at retail?
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Yea got one at BB for the same price + tax though.
But I had the pleasure of having it up and running over the weekend so that's a plus.
 
Yeah, sometimes the tax hit is worth it for the instant gratification. Newegg is damn amazing, though. My stuff shipped out yesterday and should be here tomorrow afternoon. That's record time. Especially for the assortment of stuff that I ordered. All one box apparently too.
 
Wow, this whole numbering thing with laptop GPUs is confusing. So a 260M is better than a 330M, but not a 335M?

So basically, focus on GPU 1st when looking at laptops? Obviously the other components matter, but I can see how that would be the obvious benchmark.
 
Okay, so now that all the components have been ordered, I've been reading up as much as I can on the process in general so I don't mess anything up.

But I can't seem to figure out a couple of questions:

1. Grounding - Seems like each guide I read says something different. Some tell me to touch the unpainted part of the case. Others tell me to install the PSU, plug it in, make sure the switch is off - and then I can use the case to ground myself. Some places talk about mats. Others talk about touching any bare metal whatsoever.

So I would like to know: Is it enough to just touch the case? If I get one of those anti-static straps, what do I connect the end of it to? The case? Are there any sort of special gloves I should wear? I just want a simple way to know FOR SURE that I'm not building up a charge.

2. Installing the CPU - I've never done this, so I want to know what to expect. Specifically, should I expect to have to push it into place? Or will I just be dropping it in? Can anyone describe that process in a little more detail? (If it matters, the CPU is an i5 750.)

That's about it for now. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks!
 
crisdecuba said:
Okay, so now that all the components have been ordered, I've been reading up as much as I can on the process in general so I don't mess anything up.

But I can't seem to figure out a couple of questions:

1. Grounding - Seems like each guide I read says something different. Some tell me to touch the unpainted part of the case. Others tell me to install the PSU, plug it in, make sure the switch is off - and then I can use the case to ground myself. Some places talk about mats. Others talk about touching any bare metal whatsoever.

So I would like to know: Is it enough to just touch the case? If I get one of those anti-static straps, what do I connect the end of it to? The case? Are there any sort of special gloves I should wear? I just want a simple way to know FOR SURE that I'm not building up a charge.

2. Installing the CPU - I've never done this, so I want to know what to expect. Specifically, should I expect to have to push it into place? Or will I just be dropping it in? Can anyone describe that process in a little more detail? (If it matters, the CPU is an i5 750.)

That's about it for now. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks!
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About static: don't sweat it. People make too big a deal out of it. I casually open up my PC and tinker with it all the time, and i've had zero problems. Most advanced thing I ever did was take apart a graphics card while in a dressing gown. The only thing I would take some care with is RAM, but a lot of the upper-market RAM modules have oodles of plastic protecting them.

With regards to anti-static measures, touching an un-painted part of the case is sufficient. Some guides say leave the PSU plugged into the mains, but do not do this as it might kill you. I tend to build in an area right next to a radiator, as the pipes usually head straight into the ground - I just give them a tap every 5 minutes or so. T-shirt and jogging pants are probably the best thing to wear, if we were to start getting anal about it. Open some windows too.

And the CPU should just drop into place. There is often a little something to tell you the correct orientation. If you have to push it in, you're doing it wrong.
 
Jut got a new monitor/tv combo, and I want to go about calibrating it but no calibration settings for my set are online. I'm using a LG M237WD.
 
So I just built a new computer, and noticed something kind of strange, but I haven't been able to isolate it yet. i7 920, 5850, Corsair 650TX, Gigabyte X58A.

I have noticed in a few games, mostly during loading screens or menus like Crysis for example, a high pitched whine/squeal coming from either the PSU or the GPU. It doesn't sound like a fan, but rather something electrical.

The question is, why is it happening during things like menus and loading screens, but it goes away once in the game?
 
sarcastor said:
both the 32 and 64 bit versions are slow. just opening a 1600x1200 image and using the lasso is slow. It's not even real time! There's a lag between the time i press the button and the lasso takes effect. CS4 can't be this unoptimized :(

I did change the scratch disk to other drives, increasing the memory usage and updating to 11.01 but that didn't help.
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ahh ok something is definitly going bad there :[
Do all your games and playing HD videos work sweet? it could be a messy install of CS4 so maybe try reinstalling it with only photoshop. I know CS4 was weird for me the first time, crazy brush lag, brush strokes updating really slow until I reinstalled it. Also update your video card drivers before you reinstall, and see if turning GPU acceleration on and off makes things better.
 
Looking at around $150 shipped, probably $140 if you wanted them sold now.
Bloodsent said:
So I just built a new computer, and noticed something kind of strange, but I haven't been able to isolate it yet. i7 920, 5850, Corsair 650TX, Gigabyte X58A.

I have noticed in a few games, mostly during loading screens or menus like Crysis for example, a high pitched whine/squeal coming from either the PSU or the GPU. It doesn't sound like a fan, but rather something electrical.

The question is, why is it happening during things like menus and loading screens, but it goes away once in the game?
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Could be coil whine from the 5850 or the Corsair. Don't know if that is groudns for an RMA though.
 
crisdecuba said:
Okay, so now that all the components have been ordered, I've been reading up as much as I can on the process in general so I don't mess anything up.

But I can't seem to figure out a couple of questions:

1. Grounding - Seems like each guide I read says something different. Some tell me to touch the unpainted part of the case. Others tell me to install the PSU, plug it in, make sure the switch is off - and then I can use the case to ground myself. Some places talk about mats. Others talk about touching any bare metal whatsoever.

So I would like to know: Is it enough to just touch the case? If I get one of those anti-static straps, what do I connect the end of it to? The case? Are there any sort of special gloves I should wear? I just want a simple way to know FOR SURE that I'm not building up a charge.

2. Installing the CPU - I've never done this, so I want to know what to expect. Specifically, should I expect to have to push it into place? Or will I just be dropping it in? Can anyone describe that process in a little more detail? (If it matters, the CPU is an i5 750.)

That's about it for now. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks!
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Last night I changed out the processor in my PC. Removed the motherboard, video card. All on carpet with socks and sweatpants on in a house with low humidity when it was 20 degrees F outside. In my 10 years of working on PC's I've never killed anything with static.

Don't worry so much about it.

As for the CPU you open put up on the little metal arm and drop the processor in. There should be a small triangle on one of the corners. Make sure it goes where it says it goes in the socket. Pull the arm down and hook it under it's little metal holder. I'll let others tell you how to deal with those stupid intel push pins on the heat sink. I use a Zigmatech heat sink and bracket myself.
 
crisdecuba said:
Okay, so now that all the components have been ordered, I've been reading up as much as I can on the process in general so I don't mess anything up.

But I can't seem to figure out a couple of questions:

1. Grounding - Seems like each guide I read says something different. Some tell me to touch the unpainted part of the case. Others tell me to install the PSU, plug it in, make sure the switch is off - and then I can use the case to ground myself. Some places talk about mats. Others talk about touching any bare metal whatsoever.

So I would like to know: Is it enough to just touch the case? If I get one of those anti-static straps, what do I connect the end of it to? The case? Are there any sort of special gloves I should wear? I just want a simple way to know FOR SURE that I'm not building up a charge.

2. Installing the CPU - I've never done this, so I want to know what to expect. Specifically, should I expect to have to push it into place? Or will I just be dropping it in? Can anyone describe that process in a little more detail? (If it matters, the CPU is an i5 750.)

That's about it for now. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks!
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I had actually just come to ask about question 2. I'll be getting an i5 750 tomorrow as well. So, thanks for asking! :D

Additionally, is there any special way to apply thermal paste on a Hyper 212+? I ask since it's a direct heat-pipe contact or whatever. I hear 4ghz is pretty feasible with an i5. What should I set my sights on? Any good guides for overclocking an i5?

Thanks!
 
Can anyone tell me how this will do for a setup or did i fail at buying pc parts.

My Case I really liked this case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811208032

GIGABYTE GA-EP43T-UD3L LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128414

GeForce 9500 GT 1GB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500147

Thermaltake TR2 TRX-650M 650W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 Modular Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153116

Intel Pentium E6300 Wolfdale 2.8GHz 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116091

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193

HITACHI Deskstar HD31000 IDK/7K (0S00163) 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145287

I bought a few fans and a new dvd drive. I also have 5 western digital 250 gb sata drives laying around that I'm going to use with this pc. The plan is to have a decent computer for around 600 bucks because mine is dying and really old. If I'm hoping it will be able to play Team Fortress 2 and stream movies to my xbox and be my dvr unit for windows media center. I have a tv card from my old pc that should still work fine. Staying with vista ultimate which ran poorly on my old pc. My parts should be here on 25th and hoping it will install nice and plug into my tv and my 17 inch dell monitor that work gave me. :) If I went over kill on something and not on something else let me know. I'm thinking the video card might be on the weak side but i only had 600 dollars to spend and i spent 630 dollars shipped.
 
Hey pals,

I have been using the release client of Windows 7 which is about to expire and have a few questions.

Will newegg or ncix sell me an oem box?
Is there any difference between it and retail?
Is home premium the one I want?
 
quickwhips said:
Can anyone tell me how this will do for a setup or did i fail at buying pc parts.

My Case I really liked this case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811208032

GIGABYTE GA-EP43T-UD3L LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128414

GeForce 9500 GT 1GB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500147

Thermaltake TR2 TRX-650M 650W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 Modular Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153116

Intel Pentium E6300 Wolfdale 2.8GHz 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116091

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193

HITACHI Deskstar HD31000 IDK/7K (0S00163) 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145287

I bought a few fans and a new dvd drive. I also have 5 western digital 250 gb sata drives laying around that I'm going to use with this pc. The plan is to have a decent computer for around 600 bucks because mine is dying and really old. If I'm hoping it will be able to play Team Fortress 2 and stream movies to my xbox and be my dvr unit for windows media center. I have a tv card from my old pc that should still work fine. Staying with vista ultimate which ran poorly on my old pc. My parts should be here on 25th and hoping it will install nice and plug into my tv and my 17 inch dell monitor that work gave me. :) If I went over kill on something and not on something else let me know. I'm thinking the video card might be on the weak side but i only had 600 dollars to spend and i spent 630 dollars shipped.
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Can you cancel your order? I've got tbh, those are some pretty horrendous choice of parts. $600 can buy you a quad core CPU that isn't on a dead end platform and a GPU that is around 4x faster than the one you chose, so yeah, I don't think that's the best of $600 I've ever seen.

Edit: Actually you're going to have to cancel your order, you bought memory that isn't compatible with your motherboard. I suggest just starting all over again, now that you've got to make adjustments anyway. I also don't think stuffing 5 old, small and slow drives into a new PC is a particularly good idea. I'd just stump up the cash and replace the lot with a single 2TB drive, they're pretty damn cheap these days.
 
crisdecuba said:
Okay, so now that all the components have been ordered, I've been reading up as much as I can on the process in general so I don't mess anything up.

But I can't seem to figure out a couple of questions:

1. Grounding - Seems like each guide I read says something different. Some tell me to touch the unpainted part of the case. Others tell me to install the PSU, plug it in, make sure the switch is off - and then I can use the case to ground myself. Some places talk about mats. Others talk about touching any bare metal whatsoever.

So I would like to know: Is it enough to just touch the case? If I get one of those anti-static straps, what do I connect the end of it to? The case? Are there any sort of special gloves I should wear? I just want a simple way to know FOR SURE that I'm not building up a charge.

2. Installing the CPU - I've never done this, so I want to know what to expect. Specifically, should I expect to have to push it into place? Or will I just be dropping it in? Can anyone describe that process in a little more detail? (If it matters, the CPU is an i5 750.)

That's about it for now. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks!
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buy an anti-static wrist strap on newegg. $3.49.
 
Ok well I can stop the order but fuck now I'm not sure what I can do with 600 bucks. My old pc is really dated and the still rocking agp card which the port for the agp video card is dying. So how about this what is the best bang for the buck motherboard / processor combo?
 
If you only have one fan for your heatsink, is it better to have it pushing air in or pulling it out?

I ordered a heatsink that came with a fan + two other 120mm fans for my p183 case (middle and bottom) For those familiar with the case, the headsink would be sitting right in front of the rear exhaust fan and top exhaust fan.
 
quickwhips said:
Ok well I can stop the order but fuck now I'm not sure what I can do with 600 bucks. My old pc is really dated and the still rocking agp card which the port for the agp video card is dying. So how about this what is the best bang for the buck motherboard / processor combo?
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I just put I massive post together but I lost the damn thing, anyway, have a look at these parts, they're highly recommended:

No need for a 650w PSU and this bundle comes with a much better built case and excellent PSU for $100, excellent deal:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129024&cm_re=antec-_-11-129-024-_-Product

The Athlon X4 630 blows away everything else in its price range, you're literally getting double the CPU you were getting before and you'll be on the platform with the most future upgrades compared to one with none at all.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...03704&cm_re=athlon_630-_-19-103-704-_-Product


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128419&cm_re=770_am3-_-13-128-419-_-Product

This is the HDD to get, fast, quick, cheap, quiet:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&Tpk=samsung f3

These two GPUs offer similar performance (which is about 3-4x faster than the card you picked), the second comes with a free copy of either SFIV/RE5/Dark Void and a better cooler but is a little more expensive:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...4131163&cm_re=4850_1gb-_-14-131-163-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127478&cm_re=gts_250-_-14-127-478-_-Product

If you have the cash spare get this instead:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150462&cm_re=5770-_-14-150-462-_-Product

Stick with the same RAM.

Edit: Original combo was no good, I'll sugest something else.
 
Here is what my wishlist looks like...

LIAN LI PC-V351B Black Aluminum MicroATX Desktop Computer Case - $99.88

AMD Athlon II X4 630 Propus 2.8GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor - $108.99

GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - $79.99

XFX HD-577X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - $155.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM - $104.99

$553.84 w/o shipping so far. Throw in some sata cords that can go in at a right angle (since some comments on the case stated those would be better for this case). I will use my own RAM (4 GB DDR2 800), HDDs and DVD drive.

My master race trigger finger is ready. Either someone stop me, correct me or modify me or I'll pull the trigger. I swear! I'll do it!
 
So I'm back. I'm trying to save up some money by selling off some parts and stuff that I don't need anymore. I have my mind set on CPU, MB and RAM, as well as a new primary monitor - but cooling is the issue.

To be honest, my computer is pretty loud. Not sure why people are calling an Antec P182 case is very dead silent or what not - the noise, which I turned all the switches to LOW setting, but the 4x120mm Antec Tricool fans, 1xZalman 9700 CPU cooler, 1 EVGA 8800 GTS 512mb, plus the fan in my Corsair PSU all combined makes pretty loud noise.

I was thinking about going with TRUE 120 a couple weeks ago - but I am leaning more towards watercooling - even though I haven't done any watercooling before. My Antec P182 case does come with watercooling holes, so I am thinking of doing whole system (CPU, GPU, RAM, NB/SB cooling.

Does anyone have any recommendation for an Core i7 / X58 MB watercooling system, or perhaps help me out pointing any detailed beginners guide/direction?

I'd appreciate all your input. I'm hoping to keep the watercooling cost to about to 200 dollars, if it's even possible... or maybe this watercooling idea is just simply bad idea?
 
Kintaro said:
Here is what my wishlist looks like...

LIAN LI PC-V351B Black Aluminum MicroATX Desktop Computer Case - $99.88

AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor - $95.99

GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - $79.99

SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - $169.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM - $104.99

$550.84 w/o shipping so far. Throw in some sata cords that can go in at a right angle (since some comments on the case stated those would be better for this case). I will use my own RAM (4 GB DDR2 800), HDDs and DVD drive.

My master race trigger finger is ready. Either someone stop me, correct me or modify me or I'll pull the trigger. I swear! I'll do it!
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Why not this 5770:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150462&cm_re=5770-_-14-150-462-_-Product

Its cheaper it comes with a better warranty, a better cooler and a free game, can't see the drawbacks, personally.

If you're not OCing then pay the little extra for the X4 630, its worth it.
 
brain_stew said:
Why not this 5770:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150462&cm_re=5770-_-14-150-462-_-Product

Its cheaper it comes with a better warranty, a better cooler and a free game, can't see the drawbacks, personally.

If you're not OCing then pay the little extra for the X4 630, its worth it.
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How does that 5770 compare to the one I just ordered? It went up in price since I purchased it (I got it at $164.99+$10 MIR).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102873
 
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