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"I need a new PC!" 2010 Edition
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thunker 9000
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I purchased this GTX 460, I am very excited. Bye bye GTS8800. I am a bit worried that I am going to need to get a new PSU now ): Here is my current one.
Edit: :| Hope it will work. If not, can someone point me toward a good PSU for a reasonable price?
Edit: :| Hope it will work. If not, can someone point me toward a good PSU for a reasonable price?
brain_stew
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Baloonatic said:
Molex adaptors.
thunker 9000
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Oh wow, nice.Hazaro said:
That seems a bit counter intuitive. Less power consumption, less heat. Boatloads more performance? 0_o
ah, didnt catch the edit. Here is my current card, 8800 GTS SSC
brain_stew
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Pookaki said:
You got a 768MB card.........
If it bites you in the ass down the road don't say I didn't warn you.
Baloonatic
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brain_stew said:
I just opened up my case and now I'm not even sure. There's a loose 6-pin PCI-E connector in there, but there must be one connected to my GPU right? :lol
Ebuyer says that it's only meant to have one, but the official site says that it "may have one or two prior to June 2008". Been ages since I did anything with the insides of my computer so I'm confused.
I guess if there's a loose one then I have two, even though I got it December 2008.
thunker 9000
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Anything is an upgrade to my current card. Hell, I had a 640mb 8800. 0_obrain_stew said:You got a 768MB card.........
If it bites you in the ass down the road don't say I didn't warn you.
But yeah, my current PSU should be fine? I don't want to plug it in and have my PC explode ):::
Baloonatic
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kinggroin said:
Yeah there is, they're even numbered PCI-E 1 and 2. The only reason it confused me was because I checked where I got it from first to save me opening the case and they said it only had one connector.
Nevermind, looks like I'm all set. How difficult is OC'ing a GPU? I'm getting a 460.
FleckSplat
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Baloonatic
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FleckSplat said:
Performs about as good as a 5870 on AvP when overclocked. That's pretty good right?
FleckSplat
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I have a technical question. Why does a monitor NOT turn blurry when playing games at lower-than-native resolutions?
Changing the resolution in Windows does so. What's different about games?
EDIT: Baloonatic: Yes, so I've heard (I'm not an expert).
Changing the resolution in Windows does so. What's different about games?
EDIT: Baloonatic: Yes, so I've heard (I'm not an expert).
MickeyKnox
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Two things, any fixed pixel monitor will scale whatever signal you're sending to it's native resolution, the better the scaler the better the result (alternatively you can scale through your GPU) so there's always a decrease in IQ when displaying non native content.FleckSplat said:
Secondly, your desktop is 2D where as games are 3D and can be rendered at whatever resolution.
GazzaScotland
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AkIRA_22 said:
Ah thanks for that! Always good to have just a it of reassurance before dropping money. Looks like it will be a 750W Corsair PSU. Also thanks for the SSD recommendation, been having a look at one to go for.
GazzaScotland
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Shambles said:
True, but its not costing me anything other than a few beers. Mates having an upgrade, and since he has more money than sense I'll take what I can get.
Quick question for the pc folks out there. I've been gaming on my Samsung 55 inch lcd with my new pc I built via the hdmi output on my radeon 5850. I've had no issues what so ever until I switch over to the tv from my monitor today and the tv seems stuck in 16-bit color depth despite saying otherwise. I've tried resetting the pc, and a host of other things but to no avail. Is anyone familiar with this problem?
Felix Lighter
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nacire said:
Typical a TV will only support a small set of resolutions and refresh rates. I would first check the manual for a list of supported PC resolutions. Unfortunately, that as far as my limited knowledge can take you.
This thread has been really blowing up lately.
chixdiggit
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nacire said:
I have problems with ATI 5850 and my TVs as well. It worked fine via HDMI until I turned on GPU scaling. Now I can not get it to work even when I uninstall my drivers. I can't get to the option with VGA plugged in and my display doesn't work with HDMI so I'm stuck. That's on my Samsung.
On my Sony I can't get a full display. Both sets work fine with my Nvidia GTX 260 and GT 240.
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kinggroin said:
Yea i have a few molex adapters. Some came with my GTS 250.
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EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I was thinking, maybe its time to upgrade sometime soon.
My current PC consists mostly of hardware I purchased back in early '06. My setup is;
AMD64 X2 3800+ (OC'd to run at 2.6GHz compared to stock 2.0GHz)
2GB DDR Corsair (OC'd obviously for the above)
8800GT 512mb (OC'd edition)
My original GPU was a 7900GT, I think, but that died because of shitty nVidia heat issues. They replaced it with a card that performed worse but was a newer model, so I sold that and stuck another $50 or so on the sale price and got an 8800GT.
As you can see my PC is old. But sucks to be you guys! The primary reason I havent upgraded is because this badass mother fucker has lasted me very well up until now. Thats right. A vast majority of the games I've wanted to (and in some cases still want to) play can be maxed out at 1920x1080 and run smooth. I do most of my gaming on PC, so I'm happy as a pig in shit that I've been able to keep most of this setup (the videocard the only thing changing) and have it meet all my needs.
Sure, I could be one of those people that upgrade every six months because they want to squeeze out another 5 - 10fps, but I'm not that stupid (note: by stupid I mean rich), nor do I really care.
Anyway, despite my PC performing amazingly in the face of people spending thousands for four videocards and five million terabytes of RAM and an infinity core superdrive CPU, my PC is *tear* showing its age. It is not the alpha male anymore, and it wont be long until some young stud comes along and knocks it off its podium. Plus I think my HDD might be fucked.
Primarily, I want to upgrade for the next round of games. Portal 2, Episode 3, The Witcher 2, Mass Effect 3, etc etc. Something that can help usher the next 4 - 5 years of gaming. I'm not entirely sure if I want to upgrade right now, but its on the cards, but I do have some important notes to make;
- I've been out of the hardware loop for awhile. I pay a little bit of attention, mostly to the interesting stuff that never makes it to the consumer market, but I dont know what the best choice for a GPU or CPU are.
- Whatever I buy will be running my games at 1920x1080. I might upgrade my screen in 3 or 4 years, but until then I'm very happy with this resolution and clarity.
- I dont intend to upgrade anything other than the GPU for ~4 years. Much like this one, I would probably change the GPU later if new, cooler shit was coming out just to keep my system up to speed, but the rest of the system would probably stay the same (with the exception of maybe more RAM, since RAM gets quite cheap). There's also the fact that...
- ...If I can save money on a CPU that can then be overclocked, then I would rather do that. My current PC was purchased with full intentions of overclocking in favour of saving money, and it proved to be a brilliant investment. 2.0 to 2.6, thank you 'ol compy.
- I live in Australia, so availability of hardware and prices will be different than for yanks. Also, since I'm not pressed to upgrade right at this very moment, I would happily wait until later into the year if it were known that there will be hardware price drops or a new line coming out that's worth waiting for.
This brings me to the end of my super awesome post. Would anybody like to give me some advice on what direction I should go in for getting myself a new system?
My current PC consists mostly of hardware I purchased back in early '06. My setup is;
AMD64 X2 3800+ (OC'd to run at 2.6GHz compared to stock 2.0GHz)
2GB DDR Corsair (OC'd obviously for the above)
8800GT 512mb (OC'd edition)
My original GPU was a 7900GT, I think, but that died because of shitty nVidia heat issues. They replaced it with a card that performed worse but was a newer model, so I sold that and stuck another $50 or so on the sale price and got an 8800GT.
As you can see my PC is old. But sucks to be you guys! The primary reason I havent upgraded is because this badass mother fucker has lasted me very well up until now. Thats right. A vast majority of the games I've wanted to (and in some cases still want to) play can be maxed out at 1920x1080 and run smooth. I do most of my gaming on PC, so I'm happy as a pig in shit that I've been able to keep most of this setup (the videocard the only thing changing) and have it meet all my needs.
Sure, I could be one of those people that upgrade every six months because they want to squeeze out another 5 - 10fps, but I'm not that stupid (note: by stupid I mean rich), nor do I really care.
Anyway, despite my PC performing amazingly in the face of people spending thousands for four videocards and five million terabytes of RAM and an infinity core superdrive CPU, my PC is *tear* showing its age. It is not the alpha male anymore, and it wont be long until some young stud comes along and knocks it off its podium. Plus I think my HDD might be fucked.
Primarily, I want to upgrade for the next round of games. Portal 2, Episode 3, The Witcher 2, Mass Effect 3, etc etc. Something that can help usher the next 4 - 5 years of gaming. I'm not entirely sure if I want to upgrade right now, but its on the cards, but I do have some important notes to make;
- I've been out of the hardware loop for awhile. I pay a little bit of attention, mostly to the interesting stuff that never makes it to the consumer market, but I dont know what the best choice for a GPU or CPU are.
- Whatever I buy will be running my games at 1920x1080. I might upgrade my screen in 3 or 4 years, but until then I'm very happy with this resolution and clarity.
- I dont intend to upgrade anything other than the GPU for ~4 years. Much like this one, I would probably change the GPU later if new, cooler shit was coming out just to keep my system up to speed, but the rest of the system would probably stay the same (with the exception of maybe more RAM, since RAM gets quite cheap). There's also the fact that...
- ...If I can save money on a CPU that can then be overclocked, then I would rather do that. My current PC was purchased with full intentions of overclocking in favour of saving money, and it proved to be a brilliant investment. 2.0 to 2.6, thank you 'ol compy.
- I live in Australia, so availability of hardware and prices will be different than for yanks. Also, since I'm not pressed to upgrade right at this very moment, I would happily wait until later into the year if it were known that there will be hardware price drops or a new line coming out that's worth waiting for.
This brings me to the end of my super awesome post. Would anybody like to give me some advice on what direction I should go in for getting myself a new system?
Something like this for a general idea. Giving me a price would be good too.EatChildren said:
For you I'd swap in a 1055T and AMD870 motherboard.
General other picks in here.
Case is up to you, Antec 300/900 and a lot of Cooler Master cases are nice.
Cooler get a 212+ or Hyper N520
Look at around $700 for the core of the PC with a cooler. Add in a GTX460 1GB and you are set.
TouchMyBox
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EatChildren said:
It doesn't surprise me that you've been satisfied with your system still. It's still quite solid, and there isn't even any reason at all to upgrade it currently if you can settle for 720p.
As far as CPUs go, AMD is the king if you want to spend $200 and under on a CPU. AMD motherboard are also significantly less expensive than intel boards, so keep that in mind. Intel does make chips that perform faster, but that's up to your budget. As you can see from this thread, the GTX 460 is looking like a real winner at the $199 pricepoint. I would definitely wait to see what ATI's move is though in terms of price drops as their cards are much better than they were when you last went computer shopping. Since you're into overclocking you might want to lean towards AMD since they sell unlocked processors at sane prices (you can easily buy a hexa-core which will sit happy at 4.0GHz for under $300 USD), but then again, Intel has just begun to sell unlocked non-extreme edition cpus. For the first time ever really, no matter what company's flagship products you go with, you really can't go wrong.
Ok, I searched for my components now and I think I´m pretty much set on this:
I´m planning to purchase it around thursday next week, because then I´ve finished my exams and have more than enough time. I will purchase it earlier though if these components will see a foreseeable rise till then. The 1GB 460GTX should still be in stock everywhere then, right?
I´m planning to purchase it around thursday next week, because then I´ve finished my exams and have more than enough time. I will purchase it earlier though if these components will see a foreseeable rise till then. The 1GB 460GTX should still be in stock everywhere then, right?
I'd check to see if the drive is 3 500GB platters or the eco version.xyla said:
Also look around for a better PSU / Case combo
Why a 945 over a 935? 935 should be a bit cheaper.
See if you can fit in a 870 board
1GB cards... might be in stock by that time. Vendors recieved 768MB as a hard launch on time, but a major of GF104 chips are being used in the 768MB cards with a slight shortage of the 1GB cards as of now. Hopefully they should be in stock as vendors get them in 1-2 weeks.
Note that the build is just minor nitpicks, nothing is terribly wrong with it.
1 card > 2 cards? Hassle? Unhappy now?kinggroin said:
Hazaro said:
Thanks for your feedback. I tend to buy the cheaper 770 mainboard, because it seems like I don´t miss out on any big features (theres a USB 3.0 card already included) and I don´t tend to overclock my PCs, so I thought I could get by with the cheaper board. Any reasons I´m missing and should buy a 870 board?
A 935 seems to be hard to get around here. I searched the major sites but I didn´t find anything.
And I guess you would recommend a 500W PSU? You´re right, thats better suited. The case on the other hand seemed decent for the price, because I´m already scratching my limit. Which would you suggest?
Got all my components now, other than the GPU and Monitor. I still need monitor suggestions for something thats 1080P and cheap (Preferably in the $170 range or so). For some reason I can't find the Acer p235hmbid at any canadian retailers, it looks to be a really good deal but no luck.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Hazaro said:
Why do people hate on 2 cards so much? I've never had a problem with my cards in sli.