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[zlatko]

Kagete and Minsc you two are god like. Both of what you are saying is really helpful so I appreciate it.

I think at this point the max I'll pay for a PC is $2,200. I just need to find a pre built I7 9xx with a Nvidia 480X. I know I will need to get it from any website that lets me do monthly payments for it, because that really is my only option to get ANY kind of desktop at the moment.(I was going to use extra money from a student loan to buy one, but I decided to not dig myself into idiotic debt by borrowing way more than what I need) I know I can pay at least 60-70 a month for a computer regularly and that's the way I would prefer to do it.

Now it's a matter of finding a site with a desktop like that and would allow me to do monthly payments. Dell.com does, but everyone here is stating to not go through them or alienware so I've written it off as a no no. I'm not finding what I want at newegg, but I think ibuypower.com could be the winner here.

Is there any other sites I should check that might have what I need for both specs and payment options ?

 

[Smokey]

AMD Phenom™ II X6 1055T + ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB

^ That's the processor and graphics card in that bundle and it does NOT let you upgrade either of those. You are stuck with that combo. After going through it all I came out to 44.00 a month with a lot of great stuff, but it seems to me that the processor and Gcard are just meh. I'm pretty sure for FF14 I will need a single Nvidia 480X and the processor should be an I7 930 or 960 @ 2.8GHZ right ?

Dude that "meh" processor is one of the fastest out AND is one of only two six core processors available for the consumer ( the other being the Intel 980x which is 1,000). Also that "meh" graphics card is a top of the line graphics card. Only the 480 sits higher and it is more expensive, hot etc.

That AMD build is a MUCH better buy than that alienware rip.

 

[Salaadin]

RAID0 is what you want, correct. It should still benefit you tremendously even on 3GB/s motherboards, I think the 6GB/s boards are somewhat new? You should try and find some SSD raid reviews, older ones should be on 3GB/s boards.

SSD degradation depends on the drives controller w/o TRIM, intel drives use a extremely smart controller and as long as there's enough free space, they don't suffer too poorly as they can rework the issues out. You can see this review for a better explanation.

Ill read up on it. Thanks a ton. I think Im going to actually do this. I started getting backups together this morning.
I dont have an Intel drive so I guess I just have to hope Crucials is as smart as Intels? Would there be any other ways to reduce degradation without TRIM?

I have one last thing that Im concerned about.
When I first set up AHCI mode, I had to install drivers pre-Windows installation. I used the motherboards disc for this and followed the instructions in there. I was on my mobos site this morning and saw they have a bunch of other RAID drivers to install pre-Windows. Im assuming that I should be using the most recent "GIGABYTE GIGABYTE SATA2 Preinstall driver (For AHCI / RAID Mode)" instead of the one on the disc?

Also, theres an "Intel SATA RAID Driver" and an "GIGABYTE GIGABYTE SATA2 Driver" listed but its not listed as a preinstall. Is this something I should be installing after Windows?
Drivers here under "SATA/RAID":
http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/Support...?ProductID=3161&ost=windows+7+64bit#anchor_os

Motherboard manual seems to do a good job explaining how to set up RAID. Sounds simple enough.

 

[zlatko]

Dude that "meh" processor is one of the fastest out AND is one of only two six core processors available for the consumer ( the other being the Intel 980x which is 1,000). Also that "meh" graphics card is a top of the line graphics card. Only the 480 sits higher and it is more expensive, hot etc.

That AMD build is a MUCH better buy than that alienware rip.

Is that AMD build better than this?

Gamer Paladin F875
Case ( NZXT Gamma Gaming Case - Black )
Processor ( Intel® Core™ i7 930 Processor (4x 2.80GHz/8MB L3 Cache) )
Processor Cooling ( Liquid CPU Cooling System [SOCKET-1366] - [Free Upgrade] Standard 120mm Fan )
Memory ( 6 GB [2 GB X3] DDR3-1333 - ** FREE Upgrade to DDR3-1600 ** Corsair or Major Brand )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 - 1.5GB - Single Card )
Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by ATI or NVIDIA )
Motherboard ( ASUS P6T SE )
Motherboard USB / SATA Interface ( Motherboard default USB / SATA Interface )
Power Supply ( 850 Watt -- XFX Black Edition Power Supply - SLI Ready )
Primary Hard Drive ( 500 GB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
Monitor ( 22" (21.5" Viewable) Widescreen LCD 1920x1080 Sceptre X226W-1920 )
Warranty ( Standard Warranty Service - Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )

I deleted off some of the non essential info and kept that thinking it's the most important stuff people would need to look over. Things like keyboard, mouse, speakers, windows, etc are included but I didn't bother to leave in the write up.

The Dell deal was about 1,400 at 44.00 a month, and this is about 1,800 and not sure how much a month but I would guess closer to the 60 a month tile.

 

[mcdomination]

Can anyone tell me why my eVGA GTX 460 keeps shooting up to 85-90C while under load? I do not have it OC'd, but when I have it at 100% load, it gets insanely hot...even if I turn the fan up to 80%!

I do have dual monitors, but I can only get the idle temps to drop by disabling one of the monitors. Under load, it still shoots back up to 85-90+.

 

[Stormtrooper30]

UPS shipment came today.

I'm as giddy as a ten year old on Christmas Morning.

 

[Minsc]

Is that AMD build better than this?

Nope, the i7 and GTX 480 are the best way to go if you have the money. You can't get faster non-sli performance than an i7 and GTX 480. You should really look at overclocking to the 3.5GHz range on the CPU if you want the most out of your GPU and CPU. The i7s tend to overclock very easily (of course there's probably no need to at first, but if you have some strange desire for more performance, it's right there in front of you!).

 

[kagete]

zlatko, after reading about your budget situation I think i'm going to do an about face and recommend you to any cheaper alternative instead. I have very conservative sensibilities about budgeting money and I feel that most people that would look to buy top of the line i7 type rigs would also want them replaced with the latest tech in 2-3 years. I just don't feel good thinking about recommending a rig that you'll end up making payments for over the next 30-36 months when the tech could have quadrupled in complexity and value by then. Try looking into reducing your number of payments so that you're not on the book for a longer period of time. If you're in a rough spot then a top of the line gaming PC should probably not be a priority item on your list of must-haves.

Just my two cents dude. Don't hate on the Dell deal, it'll let you play FF14 and most anything out there happily and won't break the bank. I think Newegg also has deferred payment options. $$$

 

[kagete]

Can anyone tell me why my eVGA GTX 460 keeps shooting up to 85-90C while under load? I do not have it OC'd, but when I have it at 100% load, it gets insanely hot...even if I turn the fan up to 80%!

I do have dual monitors, but I can only get the idle temps to drop by disabling one of the monitors. Under load, it still shoots back up to 85-90+.

Dude, that is HOT for a 460! Are you sure you don't have a 470/480 there instead? Did you google for people with similar issues for the same brand? Is there something impeding your airflow or rubbing against your fan? Do you have it OCed with its voltage increased from stock?

An RMA is inconvenient but might be necessary. Try checking if there was ever an updated BIOS for your particular 460. The Palit OCed 460s got a new one to fix a similar issue I think.

 

[Omiee]

Say i have a Gigabyth 790XTA - UD4
with a 480W besilent power supply
and a ati 5850 and i wanna upgrade what is a better choise

getting a second 5850 and get better performance than a 5870 and have to get a new power supply

or sell the 5850 and get a 5870 and in 6 a 7 months get a second 5870


2 other options are to get 2 460 cards
or get a 470 and in 6 months a second 470

or put 2 460 now in SLI

 

[kagete]

Say i have a Gigabyth 790XTA - UD4
with a 480W besilent power supply
and a ati 5850 and i wanna upgrade what is a better choise

getting a second 5850 and get better performance than a 5870 and have to get a new power supply

or sell the 5850 and get a 5870 and in 6 a 7 months get a second 5870


2 other options are to get 2 460 cards
or get a 470 and in 6 months a second 470

Without even thinking about it much i'd recommend you just wait. You're already at a good spot with the 5850 and most any choice for an upgrade will require a new PSU. If you've got a lot of cash anyway then just buy a 480 or 5870.

 

[mcdomination]

Dude, that is HOT for a 460! Are you sure you don't have a 470/480 there instead? Did you google for people with similar issues for the same brand? Is there something impeding your airflow or rubbing against your fan? Do you have it OCed with its voltage increased from stock?

An RMA is inconvenient but might be necessary. Try checking if there was ever an updated BIOS for your particular 460. The Palit OCed 460s got a new one to fix a similar issue I think.

There are no air flow restrictions either inside or outside of the case. I've removed/reinstalled the latest drivers, but at stock (under load), it gets blazingly hot!

Well, I live 1 mile away from Tiger Direct, so no need to RMA

...still, it's a pain in the ass to to do exchanges there. I'll try a bios update if it's viable. thanks for the reply!

 

[Omiee]

Without even thinking about it much i'd recommend you just wait. You're already at a good spot with the 5850 and most any choice for an upgrade will require a new PSU. If you've got a lot of cash anyway then just buy a 480 or 5870.

i have the option to get a 5870 right now for 340 dollars with a discount
but the 470 is like 280 dollars
and i just saw a review on tweaker.net that a SLI 460 have way better performance than a 5870 and most of the times than a 5890 thats an investment i would love to make.
but if i need new motherboard and stuff i dont know if im up for that

 

[Felix Lighter]

Say i have a Gigabyth 790XTA - UD4
with a 480W besilent power supply
and a ati 5850 and i wanna upgrade what is a better choise

getting a second 5850 and get better performance than a 5870 and have to get a new power supply

or sell the 5850 and get a 5870 and in 6 a 7 months get a second 5870


2 other options are to get 2 460 cards
or get a 470 and in 6 months a second 470

or put 2 460 now in SLI

Why do you feel the need to upgrade? Are you unsatisfied with the performance of a particular game? Are you playing at very high resolution? 3D?

 

[Omiee]

Why do you feel the need to upgrade? Are you unsatisfied with the performance of a particular game? Are you playing at very high resolution? 3D?

i cant max all games and get 60FPS i just want to upgrade right now so i wont have to for 2 years at least

 

[Cdammen]

UPS shipment came today.

http://i37.tinypic.com/34o6dqg.jpg

I'm as giddy as a ten year old on Christmas Morning.

Congratulations! Take a picture of it when it's built.

 

[Felix Lighter]

i cant max all games and get 60FPS i just want to upgrade right now so i wont have to for 2 years at least

Ok. I was just curious because you'll be getting an incremental improvement for a significant investment. Have you overclocked the 5850 at all? Also be sure to check if the games your looking to max out will actually hit 60 fps with the upgrade.

 

[kagete]

There are no air flow restrictions either inside or outside of the case. I've removed/reinstalled the latest drivers, but at stock (under load), it gets blazingly hot!

Well, I live 1 mile away from Tiger Direct, so no need to RMA

...still, it's a pain in the ass to to do exchanges there. I'll try a bios update if it's viable. thanks for the reply!

Oh I know, did you use to have an older Geforce 2xx series card before your 460? I think some people have encountered overheating problems if they had an older card with an OC profile set on it and then just put in a new 460 without fully uninstalling and sweeping drivers in safemode. So if you had an old afterburner, nhancer or similar tool maybe you could try uninstalling those too.

 

[Omiee]

Ok. I was just curious because you'll be getting an incremental improvement for a significant investment. Have you overclocked the 5850 at all? Also be sure to check if the games your looking to max out will actually hit 60 fps with the upgrade.

no havent overclocked it
ill be honest with u i was thinking of getting the 460 SLI for 400 dollars because of physx etc.
and my second choise would have been sell the 5850 for 200 dollars and get a 5870 for 300 dollars and in a few months or when crysis 2 comes out get a second 5870.

 

[CSampson]

I have a feeling that it has been answered in this thread, but in the interest of time as I am currently installing everything on my new PC, could someone tell me the best way to "test" my new rig? Some sort of benchmark program?

 

[Omiee]

how much more use do i get from a http://xfxforce.com/en-gb/features/5870Eyefinity6.aspx#1
because it has 2gb than a regular 5870

 

[Smokey]

Is that AMD build better than this?

Gamer Paladin F875
Case ( NZXT Gamma Gaming Case - Black )
Processor ( Intel® Core™ i7 930 Processor (4x 2.80GHz/8MB L3 Cache) )
Processor Cooling ( Liquid CPU Cooling System [SOCKET-1366] - [Free Upgrade] Standard 120mm Fan )
Memory ( 6 GB [2 GB X3] DDR3-1333 - ** FREE Upgrade to DDR3-1600 ** Corsair or Major Brand )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 - 1.5GB - Single Card )
Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by ATI or NVIDIA )
Motherboard ( ASUS P6T SE )
Motherboard USB / SATA Interface ( Motherboard default USB / SATA Interface )
Power Supply ( 850 Watt -- XFX Black Edition Power Supply - SLI Ready )
Primary Hard Drive ( 500 GB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
Monitor ( 22" (21.5" Viewable) Widescreen LCD 1920x1080 Sceptre X226W-1920 )
Warranty ( Standard Warranty Service - Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )

I deleted off some of the non essential info and kept that thinking it's the most important stuff people would need to look over. Things like keyboard, mouse, speakers, windows, etc are included but I didn't bother to leave in the write up.

The Dell deal was about 1,400 at 44.00 a month, and this is about 1,800 and not sure how much a month but I would guess closer to the 60 a month tile.

This machine is much more reasonable than the other alienware. The I7 machine + 480 is definitely faster than the Amd build. The phenom line of processors from Amd are plenty fast. They also have an upgrade path for the future whereas Intel is introducing a new socket next year which means you'll be stuck with I7(OH noez!) with no upgrade ability .

I couldn't tell you which one to go with because I'm going through this very same situation myself and have been for months :lol. I do prefer the 480 over
5870 though.

tl;dr

Either one of these machines will max what you want to play

Edit: tech report has a great 20+ page article they put up today comparing SLI and crossfire against each other as well as numerous single high end cards.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/19404

Great read. The SLI 460s almost consistently beat out a single 480. The article also shows that the 480 and 470 have recently pulled further ahead of the 5870.

 

[StylusX]

My graphic card has just died so I'm looking to buy a new one. What's the best graphics card I can get for under £80. I don't really play games on my PC hence the price range I'm going for

Thanks

 

[kagete]

This machine is much more reasonable than the other alienware. The I7 machine + 480 is definitely faster than the Amd build. The phenom line of processors from Amd are plenty fast. They also have an upgrade path for the future whereas Intel is introducing a new socket next year which means you'll be stuck with I7(OH noez!) with no upgrade ability .

I couldn't tell you which one to go with because I'm going through this very same situation myself and have been for months :lol. I do prefer the 480 over
5870 though.

tl;dr

Either one of these machines will max what you want to play

No PC yet? Wow if you can wait this long then you can wait for christmas. And if you wait even longer then you can wait for ballsdozer/sandyballs and whatever crazy 16 core tech will come out in the future.

 

[Blackface]

I would go with the AMD build and use the money saved to buy Bulldozer when it comes out.

The current Intel sockets are already finished. They are great if you want an I5 and performance now. But if you want to invest in something that can be upgraded or you plan to spend a lot of money, go with the AMD and keep bulldozer in mind. You could get a good 800 series board + a 1055T + save enough money over going I7 to buy Bulldozer when it comes out. So you get performance now, and better performance down the road.

I would also suggest you make up your mind quickly. As rumour has it price cuts are coming from ATI in the not so distant future that will bring the 5850 closer in line cost wise to the 460. So if you plan to sell it for $200 get on it.

 

[Smokey]

No PC yet? Wow if you can wait this long then you can wait for christmas. And if you wait even longer then you can wait for ballsdozer/sandyballs and whatever crazy 16 core tech will come out in the future.

I have builds of both Amd and Intel that I am satisfied with. Thats more than I could say a month or so ago. I'm becoming well versed in the pc area now, and after realizing that Intel is going with a new socket that has sort of halted my plans.


I want the power/speed of the I5/I7 line with the upgradeability of the AM3 chip which I'm not gonna get at the moment so I may just hold off and see what bulldozer and sandy bridge have to offer. I came into this summer with the intent on purchasing a new pc...but the more I read up the more I think I should wait

Seeing how shit like mafia 2 is on consoles vs a pc isn't helping either.

Unless I go back to my original plan of getting a I7 980x...then I'm set for YEARS.....even if I can't upgrade :lol

 

[kagete]

I have builds of both Amd and Intel that I am satisfied with. Thats more than I could say a month or so ago. I'm becoming well versed in the pc area now, and after realizing that Intel is going with a new socket that has sort of halted my plans.


I want the power/speed of the I5/I7 line with the upgradeability of the AM3 chip which I'm not gonna get at the moment so I may just hold off and see what bulldozer and sandy bridge have to offer. I came into this summer with the intent on purchasing a new pc...but the more I read up the more I think I should wait

Seeing how shit like mafia 2 is on consoles vs a pc isn't helping either.

Unless I go back to my original plan of getting a I7 980x...then I'm set for YEARS.....even if I can't upgrade :lol

Dude, stop reading threads and news and sitting on your ass and just drive down to microcenter to buy your $200 i7 and get to gaming already. In 2-3 years you can afford to upgrade anyway as the microcenter will still be there and you could afford the i7 in the first place so you're not exactly needing for cash. PC gaming is glorious man...

 

[asdad123]

If anyone has a microcenter near them. They're giving away free motherboards with AMD processors (Including the x6 )

http://www.microcenter.com/specials/promotions/0810_AMDbundle.html

 

[Felix Lighter]

I was looking into buying a headset for my PC and this was the one I was looking at:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Headset-G330-Black/dp/B002I3OZB2/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1281646502&sr=1-2

Is there something better out there? I'm not looking to pay more than $40-50 and if there is a cheaper solution that'll do a quality job, even better.

 

[Mairu]

I was looking into buying a headset for my PC and this was the one I was looking at:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Headset-G330-Black/dp/B002I3OZB2/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1281646502&sr=1-2

Is there something better out there? I'm not looking to pay more than $40-50 and if there is a cheaper solution that'll do a quality job, even better.

Personally I despise those wrap around the back of your head headsets but if you can stand them it might be decent. I've been thinking about getting a headset myself but my budget is probably closer to $100ish for one as I'd like some decent sound quality in the games I'm playing

 

[Felix Lighter]

Hmmm... I'll have to do some more research. Maybe a higher budget is more appropriate.

 

[Dina]

I like the Logitech Clearchat Pro headsets. Very good for chatting, but still fairly ok for gaming.

 

[Mairu]

I currently use a Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro with my PC which is pretty awesome so I'm not sure if I should just buy a microphone to go with it or an actual headset which most likely would be a decrease in sound quality.

 

[Boonoo]

I was looking into buying a headset for my PC and this was the one I was looking at:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Headset-G330-Black/dp/B002I3OZB2/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1281646502&sr=1-2

Is there something better out there? I'm not looking to pay more than $40-50 and if there is a cheaper solution that'll do a quality job, even better.

If you have some headphones already I'd highly recommend getting a standalone mic. Something like this logitech works great.

I currently use a Beverdynamic DT770 Pro with my PC which is pretty awesome so I'm not sure if I should just buy a microphone to go with it or an actual headset which most likely would be a decrease in sound quality.

Definitely just a mic to go with it.

 

[Mairu]

If you have some headphones already I'd highly recommend getting a standalone mic. Something like this logitech works great.

Any idea if there are any adequate clip-on mics or something instead of one that sits on the desk? I see http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00029MTMQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20 but I'm a little weary of it given some of the reveiws on Amazon.

 

[Boonoo]

Any idea if there are any adequate clip-on mics or something instead of one that sits on the desk? I see http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00029MTMQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20 but I'm a little weary of it given some of the reveiws on Amazon.

Can't help you there. I've had the same logitech (an earlier version of the one I posted) for about 4 or 5 years now.

 

[Felix Lighter]

I do have head phones but not particularly good ones.

 

[Hazaro]

Any idea if there are any adequate clip-on mics or something instead of one that sits on the desk? I see http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00029MTMQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20 but I'm a little weary of it given some of the reveiws on Amazon.

Get that clip on mic, or a Logitech USB mic (AK5370) from any number of places like amazon, new egg, or a refurb from eBay.

 

[Classic_Gs]

AMD Phenom™ II X6 1055T + ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB

^ That's the processor and graphics card in that bundle and it does NOT let you upgrade either of those. You are stuck with that combo. After going through it all I came out to 44.00 a month with a lot of great stuff, but it seems to me that the processor and Gcard are just meh. I'm pretty sure for FF14 I will need a single Nvidia 480X and the processor should be an I7 930 or 960 @ 2.8GHZ right ?

I've got the Dell rig your referring to (XPS 7100), which I bought for FFXIV. I can tell you I ran the beta phase 2 with max settings (Shadows on Highest and 8xMulti sampling) and it looked wonderful and ran great. Of course Square is still having issues with ATI graphics cards, so the framerate would drop in town (low 20s), but that has more to do with it being a beta than my hardware. Outside of town it was a solid 30 fps, which was the cap during phase 2.

 

[TheExodu5]

i cant max all games and get 60FPS i just want to upgrade right now so i wont have to for 2 years at least

You'll get what, maybe 30% performance increase right now?

If you wait a year or so, you might be able to get a 100% performance increase for that kind of money. I'd just wait, personally.

I was looking into buying a headset for my PC and this was the one I was looking at:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Headset-G330-Black/dp/B002I3OZB2/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1281646502&sr=1-2

Is there something better out there? I'm not looking to pay more than $40-50 and if there is a cheaper solution that'll do a quality job, even better.

Avoid Logitech. They honestly have some of the worst headsets I have ever had the displeasure of trying. The sound quality is abysmal for the money.

Sennheiser's are nice, though the build quality is a tad lacking:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NOR89Y/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I'm using the very overpriced Sennheiser PC350 right now. They're alright, but certainly not worth the money. I did love my PC151 when I had them though.

I really recommend the super cheap Plantronics headsets. They're built quite solidly, and have pretty decent sound quality for the money. Honestly, my last $20 Plantronics headphones didn't sound that far off from these $150 Sennheiser.

Here's an open set (if you want to hear the outside world):
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001KUSXXU/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Here's a closed set (if you don't want to hear the outside world):
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001E45XT4/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I'd recommend you go with an open set if you don't need the noise cancellation. Much more comfortable and far better bass, most of the time.

 

[Nabs]

If you have some headphones already I'd highly recommend getting a standalone mic. Something like this logitech works great.

Definitely just a mic to go with it.

yeah just grab yourself a mic.

 

[TheExodu5]

Standalone mics just suck because they have no noise cancellation whatsoever. I hate the guys in Vent with shitty mics. :|

 

[Hawk269]

Need a quick question answered...

I have an eVGA 460 being put into the rig my friend is working on. I need to go to dinner and will be out for a while. Here is the question:

Does the min-hdmi also carry audio? I am hooking this up to my big screen and am going HDMI. Since I am going out, I wont be back in time to test it and then discover I need to get a optical cable to go from the motherboard to my receiver..since my electronics stores here in town close at 9pm.

My freind says the manual for the card states that it does audio, but he does not have a HDMI monitor as he is testing it and installing all the software on it to be sure.

If anyone knows if the evga 460 min-hdmi out also sends audio as well as video it would be greatly appreciated. I dont go to work till 1pm tomorrow, so I plan on messing with the new rig for a long time tonight.

Thanks to anyone that can answer. My friend says the rig is a beast..cant wait to get home tonight.

 

[TheExodu5]

I believe you need an internal spdif connector to connect the spdif pinouts from your soundcard/motherboard to the video card. The card most likely came with these cables if that's the case.

 

[Nabs]

Standalone mics just suck because they have no noise cancellation whatsoever. I hate the guys in Vent with shitty mics. :|

Mumble great echo cancellation and makes shitty mics sound pretty good. (I have a 10 yr old crappy desk mic)

 

[1-D_FTW]

Need a quick question answered...

I have an eVGA 460 being put into the rig my friend is working on. I need to go to dinner and will be out for a while. Here is the question:

Does the min-hdmi also carry audio? I am hooking this up to my big screen and am going HDMI. Since I am going out, I wont be back in time to test it and then discover I need to get a optical cable to go from the motherboard to my receiver..since my electronics stores here in town close at 9pm.

My freind says the manual for the card states that it does audio, but he does not have a HDMI monitor as he is testing it and installing all the software on it to be sure.

If anyone knows if the evga 460 min-hdmi out also sends audio as well as video it would be greatly appreciated. I dont go to work till 1pm tomorrow, so I plan on messing with the new rig for a long time tonight.

Thanks to anyone that can answer. My friend says the rig is a beast..cant wait to get home tonight.

Sure. You can choose whichever you want. Sound through HDMI and your 460, or have your sound card handle it. It's selectable in the Nvidia control panel.

 

[Smokey]

Dude, stop reading threads and news and sitting on your ass and just drive down to microcenter to buy your $200 i7 and get to gaming already. In 2-3 years you can afford to upgrade anyway as the microcenter will still be there and you could afford the i7 in the first place so you're not exactly needing for cash. PC gaming is glorious man...

I'm also fucking scared I'm gonna fuck something up putting it together .

 

[Hazaro]

Mumble great echo cancellation and makes shitty mics sound pretty good. (I have a 10 yr old crappy desk mic)

Yeah I JUST heard (or rather not heard) mumble's echo cancellation. Incredible.

 

[Najaf]

What temperature is too high for a GPU?

I am running two GTX 460s in SLI. They are not overclocked. In SCII the primary reaches 87-93 C consistently while the second maxes in the low 60s. I have great airflow and have my fans set at 60 percent at 60 C and incrementally increase to 100 percent at 85 C.

Are these temps unusual? The game runs fine though. No crashes.

 

[Revengeance]

Hey PC-GAF: my dad asked for some advice buying a new PC. He mostly needs it for browsing, word processing, etc, although if I could play Starcraft 2 on it when I'm there (they live 4 hours away) that would be a huge plus (for me)

My question is this: are the pre-built desktops at Newegg good? Are they loaded with bloatware? I would just build him one, but like I said - they live 4 hours away.