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"I need a new PC!" 2010 Edition

Gary Whitta said:
So I am building my new PC today! If you care to see it happen LIVE, tune into Tested.com around 3pm PST today, we're streaming the whole process and taking questions from the audience.

Also, anyone got advice for anything I need to put on this thing when I'm done to keep it safe and clean? I am not anticipating many problems as I will ONLY be using this machine for gaming and NOTHING else. Aside from Steam and any game installs, all I will have is Chrome for downloading any driver updates and patches and Skype for any game voice chat where it's not supported natively. I'll have Microsoft Security Essentials on there, is there anything else I really need? I want to keep this system as uncluttered as possible.

(Windows 7 Ultimate, BTW).
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I think D3D Overrider (part of the RivaTuner install) is a pretty essential app if you don't like screen tearing. FRAPS is also pretty useful, especially if you like to upgrade your machine, as it tells you when you're not really get 60fps even though you might think otherwise.
 
Gary Whitta said:
So I am building my new PC today! If you care to see it happen LIVE, tune into Tested.com around 3pm PST today, we're streaming the whole process and taking questions from the audience.

Also, anyone got advice for anything I need to put on this thing when I'm done to keep it safe and clean? I am not anticipating many problems as I will ONLY be using this machine for gaming and NOTHING else. Aside from Steam and any game installs, all I will have is Chrome for downloading any driver updates and patches and Skype for any game voice chat where it's not supported natively. I'll have Microsoft Security Essentials on there, is there anything else I really need? I want to keep this system as uncluttered as possible.

(Windows 7 Ultimate, BTW).
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Fraps maybe?
 
Gary Whitta said:
So I am building my new PC today! If you care to see it happen LIVE, tune into Tested.com around 3pm PST today, we're streaming the whole process and taking questions from the audience.

Also, anyone got advice for anything I need to put on this thing when I'm done to keep it safe and clean? I am not anticipating many problems as I will ONLY be using this machine for gaming and NOTHING else. Aside from Steam and any game installs, all I will have is Chrome for downloading any driver updates and patches and Skype for any game voice chat where it's not supported natively. I'll have Microsoft Security Essentials on there, is there anything else I really need? I want to keep this system as uncluttered as possible.

(Windows 7 Ultimate, BTW).
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I'm doing the same thing, built my own gaming pc, great experience btw, and waiting for my mac pro, coming on the 24th, best of both worlds.

steam is my candy store, RPG's galore

if you want the quickest way to pc gaming heaven, you must buy the quakecon pack now on sale in steam, wonderful selection
 
You know Gary, it's kinda saddened me that you've turned into one of the most visible champions for Apple on GAF... Hopefully your new PC will be nothing but rainbows and sex and gaming goodness and we can steal a bit of your time and mind. I'm not a hater but welcome back to the master race.
They always come back. Always.
 
abq said:
The PSU is a 650w Corsair. The GPU (GTX460) seems to get enough power. I've tried without GPU, though, and it still doesn't work.


New HDD and one of the old HDDs are 3Gbps. The third one is five years old or so and I don't think it's 3Gbps.
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Does it show up when you are in the bios? If not, can you add it manually?
 
So I've been avoiding my local Compusa like a plague ever since it reopened under TigerDirect's ownership. Wow! It's pretty freaking nice. And they match their website prices (competitive with Newegg). I'm going to have to start paying attention to the weekly sales. Big ol store packed to the brim with computer parts. It's nerd heaven.
 
kagete said:
You know Gary, it's kinda saddened me that you've turned into one of the most visible champions for Apple on GAF... Hopefully your new PC will be nothing but rainbows and sex and gaming goodness and we can steal a bit of your time and mind. I'm not a hater but welcome back to the master race.
They always come back. Always.
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not to offend or anything but the master race was initially from apple computers, but will be glad to call you brother now, windows gaming ftw
 
kagete said:
You know Gary, it's kinda saddened me that you've turned into one of the most visible champions for Apple on GAF... Hopefully your new PC will be nothing but rainbows and sex and gaming goodness and we can steal a bit of your time and mind. I'm not a hater but welcome back to the master race.
They always come back. Always.
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Why can't I like both? I just prefer Mac for productivity and PC for games.

Weenerz said:
So tested.com is building your PC today at 6pm est? Will tune in for sure. Is Will building it or Norm?
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I'm building it but Will is supervising. We may have a special guest too :)
 
pyros said:
not to offend or anything but the master race was initially from apple computers, but will be glad to call you brother now, windows gaming ftw
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Oh that's fair. I still have everything from back then as well. But yahtzee was referring to the current state of pc gaming when he coined that. Was just trying to have some fun with Gary :P

Gary Whitta said:
Why can't I like both? I just prefer Mac for productivity and PC for games.
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Well you have to understand, some of us associated you with PC Gaming back then. I'm in both camps as well as I have products from both ends but I really just find the whole metagame in Apple-GAF threads and your frequent involvement in them as pretty funny.

So it's completely live? I saw Will's last assembly video and that was maybe 45 minutes with cuts/editing. You're going to be on camera for a fair bit of time there
 
kagete said:
Oh that's fair. I still have everything from back then as well. But the yahtzee was referring to the current state of pc gaming when he coined that. Was just trying to have some fun with Gary :P
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no worries bro, I'm having a blast since i built my pc two weeks ago, difference between mac and windows gaming is like night and day
 
zlatko said:
Yeah unfortunately HP doesn't even go into the Nvidia 460X+ or ATI 5870+ territories on these. Going to have to keep looking around. I've checked so many sites it's exhausting. :P
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If you're not going to build it yourself just get the Dell
 
I will tune in because I support the Whitta using a PC foundation.

Pro tip don't clutter it up with crap like anti-virus programs and shit. If you don't click dumb shit or go to shady Russian download sites you won't get a virus. Use lightweight/open source programs.
 
Blackface said:
I will tune in because I support the Whitta using a PC foundation.

Pro tip don't clutter it up with crap like anti-virus programs and shit. If you don't click dumb shit or go to shady Russian download sites you won't get a virus. Use lightweight/open source programs.
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In all my time computing, I've basically never used antivirus, and I'm pretty sure I never got a virus until I shared a computer with my wife.
 
I wish Jeff Green was the special guest and he'd interrupt the stream while Windows is installing and challenge Gary to an awkward rap-off.
 
Blackface said:
I will tune in because I support the Whitta using a PC foundation.

Pro tip don't clutter it up with crap like anti-virus programs and shit. If you don't click dumb shit or go to shady Russian download sites you won't get a virus. Use lightweight/open source programs.
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MSE doesn't really clutter it up, but I assume that falls into your lightweight category.
 
I think I am just going to go with MSE. A few people also recommended Malwarebytes but I doubt I'll need much considering I'm not going to be doing a lot of browsing/downloading or any email.

One thing I know for sure: I will never put Norton on any PC I own ever again. For every problem that thing solves it creates ten more. And they CHARGE for that?
 
Is there any notable difference between a gtx 460 and 465?

Also where would you put the 460/465 amongst :

GTX 280, GTX 285, GTX 470

thanks again
 
Corky said:
Is there any notable difference between a gtx 460 and 465?

Also where would you put the 460/465 amongst :

GTX 280, GTX 285, GTX 470

thanks again
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GTX 460> all those cards except the GTX 470. The GTX 460 is easily the best buy out of all those cards.
 
Gary Whitta said:
I think I am just going to go with MSE. A few people also recommended Malwarebytes but I doubt I'll need much considering I'm not going to be doing a lot of browsing/downloading or any email.

One thing I know for sure: I will never put Norton on any PC I own ever again. For every problem that thing solves it creates ten more. And they CHARGE for that?
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Mr_Brit said:
GTX 460> all those cards except the GTX 470. The GTX 460 is easily the best buy out of all those cards.
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oh nice

I'm looking at benchmarks and the HD 5850 looks very juicy :o and it slightly more expensive than the 460 but seems to perform better in most ggames.

Also this might sound stupid but : is the 460 better than the 465?

edit : it seems this boils down to 460 vs 5830. Which to pick, which to pick.....
 
Hmmm, I have a choice to go all out an get 480's in sli with a 9800gtx for physx, or to save some do an go sli 460's. I'm pondering this for 3d, just worried the 460 in sli wont run smooth in 3d.
 
Corky said:
oh nice

I'm looking at benchmarks and the HD 5850 looks very juicy :o and it slightly more expensive than the 460 but seems to perform better in most ggames.

Also this might sound stupid but : is the 460 better than the 465?

edit : it seems this boils down to 460 vs 5830. Which to pick, which to pick.....
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The 5830 is a POS. Very imbalanced (performance is all over the place in games), its huge, power hungry and runs hot to boot. Its just not a very good product and plus, at the same price and performance level, I'd always recommend someone goes with the Nvidia solution, they just offer you more. Speedier driver updates, more tuning options and stuff like forcing AA is simple and standard whereas it can be a royal PITA on ATI hardware.

Basically, go with the GTX 460.
 
brain_stew said:
The 5830 is a POS. Very imbalanced (performance is all over the place in games), its huge, power hungry and runs hot to boot. Its just not a very good product and plus, at the same price and performance level, I'd always recommend someone goes with the Nvidia solution, they just offer you more. Speedier driver updates, more tuning options and stuff like forcing AA is simple and standard whereas it can be a royal PITA on ATI hardware.

Basically, go with the GTX 460.
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thanks brainy :)

unless I get my 250 gts back with hardware SLI support, I'm getting a gtx 460

edit :

What do I have to take into consideration before buying a new gpu? Compatibilty-wise that is?

PSU / Motherboard?

corsair 650/ asus m4n82 deluxe. Will it work?
 
Yeah, you're fine. If you could support your GTS 250s it can support a GTX 460. Honestly, if you have the chance of trading them GTS 250s for a single GTX 460, then snap their hands off.
 
brain_stew said:
Yeah, you're fine. If you could support your GTS 250s it can support a GTX 460. Honestly, if you have the chance of trading them GTS 250s for a single GTX 460, then snap their hands off.
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Thanks again.

I'm thinking about selling one of the GTS 250s and keeping the other as a physX card.

I've got my eyes on "Gigabyte GeForce GTX 460 OC Mini HDMI Dual-DVI 1GB", but what is this mini HDMI about? I got to buy a special kind of cable/adapter to be able to use a regular hdmi-cable? Or ( please god ) is there something included in the box?

Gonna order monday. Please, lord, don't let this card be busted on arrival or something.
 
Corky said:
Thanks again.

I'm thinking about selling one of the GTS 250s and keeping the other as a physX card.

I've got my eyes on "Gigabyte GeForce GTX 460 OC Mini HDMI Dual-DVI 1GB", but what is this mini HDMI about? I got to buy a special kind of cable/adapter to be able to use a regular hdmi-cable? Or ( please god ) is there something included in the box?

Gonna order monday. Please, lord, don't let this card be busted on arrival or something.
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Judging by pictures on Newegg, I think it might vary. Gigabyte includes it with their 1GB card, but I think I may have saw a vendor or two who didn't have it pictured in the contents. Maybe not.
 
1-D_FTW said:
Yeah. That's the card I have. From what I can see, it's the best option out there. Just a top tier heatsink/cooling solution on it.
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sweet, can't wait until monday. Gonna buy the shit out of it.

Meanwhile, here's another one of my patented stupid questions :

The transition between gpus, from a 250 to a 460, only thing I have to do is to remove one and insert the other right? No resetting cmos , or updating drivers or stuff like that?
 
Corky said:
sweet, can't wait until monday. Gonna buy the shit out of it.

Meanwhile, here's another one of my patented stupid questions :

The transition between gpus, from a 250 to a 460, only thing I have to do is to remove one and insert the other right? No resetting cmos , or updating drivers or stuff like that?
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You should probably reinstall the drivers, running driver sweeper, etc.
 
A lot of people would recommend you uninstall the Nvidia drivers and do a fresh install of them. I did this with my 460. But I'll confess I've popped in a new card without touching the drivers without problems in the past. Probably wise to do a fresh install though. But that's it. DON'T touch the CMOS (unless you want all your BIOS settings reset to factory default).
 
Sanjay said:
My new PC, I'm loving it.

What I bought.
i7 920 @4.20, Gigabyte EX58-UD5, 6GB Corsair Ram 1600MHz, SilverStone LC17B & 1GB Gigabyte GTX 460.

PC finally got completed today with my 1GB Gigabyte GTX 460 arriving today for only £170 delivered from Scan.

The guts.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z32/shaftydude/0d9e8377.jpg
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z32/shaftydude/a704e177.jpg
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z32/shaftydude/42c4cc15.jpg
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You badly need a bigger, better case, airflow in that thing will be terrible.
 
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