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"I need a new PC!" 2010 Edition
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Mr Sandman
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Just hooked my PC up to my big screen via HDMI and I love it. Got dual monitor setup with DVI going to my PC.
Can any one recommend me a decent (doesn't have to be amazing) wireless gaming mouse + keyboard set at a good price? DPI's not too much of a factor (the one I have is 1000 and it's good for me, the more the merrier though), however I'd like a left thumb button as I have gotten used to having it.
Can any one recommend me a decent (doesn't have to be amazing) wireless gaming mouse + keyboard set at a good price? DPI's not too much of a factor (the one I have is 1000 and it's good for me, the more the merrier though), however I'd like a left thumb button as I have gotten used to having it.
Yeah, they made a killing by becoming the de facto choice while most of the market couldn't be bothered with producing M-ITX boards. IIRC, they're also one of the first to produce 1156 M-ITX boards with the socket back in its "proper" location, unlike Gigabyte and nearly everyone else.brain_stew said:
I nearly purchased a Zotac board on several occasions to do a tiny C2Quad SG05/06 build. Now with people building M-ITXs with AMD's 95w 1055T X6, I can't wait to see what happens when Intel's 1155s hit (though I'm sure 6- & 8-cores will be exclusive to the 2011)
IrishNinja
Member
brain_stew said:
hey GAF - was comparing those 3 with this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=4#scrollFullInfo
the graphics card is superior, i believe...only doubts for me are a) processor's not bad, but for purposes of PS2/GC emulation, im told the others might fare better, b) 6GB of DDR2 < 4 GB DDR3 no? and most importantly: c) recertified...ASUS says a 1 year extended warranty can be purchased through the vendor, not seeing that.
again, for purposes of steam games/option of later stuff like diablo 3, fallout vegas etc, is the one im looking at ideal, or how do the others spec up? the quad core looks good for the $ but im trading off quite a bit on the vid card end...am i making too big a deal out of recertified? i read newegg's great for customer service, but after that, i fear id be ass out.
Hi PC GAF.
I'm looking to get back into PC gaming so I can play stuff like Civ V and Mass Effect 2 and looking forwards games like Diablo 3 and upcoming MMOs, I want to be able to play these games at max settings on my 24" 1080p monitor, but don't need a machine that can run Crysis et al at 60fps.
Is now a good time to buy/build a machine or is there something on the horizon worth waiting for? My budget is around £800. Thanks.
Edit - Is this a good deal, for £730:
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (2.80GHz, 512kx6)
6144MB (2x2GB) (2x1GB)1333MHz DDR3 Dual Channel Memory
2TB Dual Hard Drive Raid 0 "Stripe" (2x1TB - 7200rpm)
1GB ATI® Radeon HD 5870 graphics card with Vision Black label
I know I know, its Dell.. but anyways
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/dell-studio-xps-7100-desktop-amd-ph/743548?page=3
I'm looking to get back into PC gaming so I can play stuff like Civ V and Mass Effect 2 and looking forwards games like Diablo 3 and upcoming MMOs, I want to be able to play these games at max settings on my 24" 1080p monitor, but don't need a machine that can run Crysis et al at 60fps.
Is now a good time to buy/build a machine or is there something on the horizon worth waiting for? My budget is around £800. Thanks.
Edit - Is this a good deal, for £730:
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (2.80GHz, 512kx6)
6144MB (2x2GB) (2x1GB)1333MHz DDR3 Dual Channel Memory
2TB Dual Hard Drive Raid 0 "Stripe" (2x1TB - 7200rpm)
1GB ATI® Radeon HD 5870 graphics card with Vision Black label
I know I know, its Dell.. but anyways
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/dell-studio-xps-7100-desktop-amd-ph/743548?page=3
Good deal for UK I guess?r4z4 said:
You have to deal with VAT so it comes out to around the deals the US was getting.
If there is an ok prebuilt to recommend, that is one of them.
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Alternatively you could probably get some better components and cut back on the videocard and save some money as well.
toastyToast
Member
I've been fiddling with MSI Afterburner, so far I've gotten my 5850 to 850/1225 without having to touch the voltage setting. Seeing some great gains - when it works.
My problem is that I've set up a stock voltage profile and my overclocked profile to act as 2D and 3D profiles respectively. Thing is Afterburner won't ever automatically switch to the 3D profile and I have to enable it myself.
Anyone with experience with this program have any pointers?
My problem is that I've set up a stock voltage profile and my overclocked profile to act as 2D and 3D profiles respectively. Thing is Afterburner won't ever automatically switch to the 3D profile and I have to enable it myself.
Anyone with experience with this program have any pointers?
Milpool
Member
·feist· said:
I recently got the board you pictured and love it. I was worried about the socket placement on H55 boards as well but I notice most low profile coolers have a massive overhang on one side of the socket so the H55 placement works well. I think if I got the P55 board my cooler would hang off the edge of the motherboard making it unable to fit in my SG07. Plus all the reports of borked bios' after updating on the zotac boards put me off.
Of course for most it would be a non issue since you can fit a H50, H70 or an ALC eco in most m-itx cases.
prelude514
Banned
Hi guys. Thinking about upgrading my 775 CPU tonight and I wanted some opinions.
Rig:
Gigabyte UD3R (P45)
E7400 @ 403 x 9.5 = 3.83Ghz
8800 GTS 512
4GB DDR2
Running 2x 24" Viewsonic LED monitors
I found a used (year old) QX9650 for $250 Canadian and I was wondering if it would be a good upgrade performance wise for gaming and general use. I kind of want to max out my current platform before making a major upgrade.
Rig:
Gigabyte UD3R (P45)
E7400 @ 403 x 9.5 = 3.83Ghz
8800 GTS 512
4GB DDR2
Running 2x 24" Viewsonic LED monitors
I found a used (year old) QX9650 for $250 Canadian and I was wondering if it would be a good upgrade performance wise for gaming and general use. I kind of want to max out my current platform before making a major upgrade.
No. You'll need a new GPU and a new CPU to make a major leap, a Q9550 would only really be faster in apps that can use more than two threads. A GTX 460 and i5 or Phenom II would be good upgrades or you can wait for Sandy Bridge from Intel which is coming out at the end of this year.prelude514 said:
I guys. Wall of text inc, so be prepared 
I was thinking to upgrade my PC... Core2 Duo E4500 @2.2ghz, 4850 512MB, 2GB ram DDR2 etc etc... also my monitor is a 19" Acer 1440x900 @60hz.
This was ok last years, but now it wont even run WoW at ultra wt 60fps because my CPU is pure shit and my ram isnt even 800mhz.
Soo... I was thinking to replace my whole setup...!
My concerns are.
1) I am very limited in space. Max monitor is 22" and my pc will be micro atx, because for the love of god, my room is utter shit and there is no other place my PC can be placed. Sucks.
2) I was interested into the Micro Atx mobo, this one AsRock 890GM Pro3 with USB3/SATA3/eSata3 and other cool stuff like 6 cores that makes my PC last longer.
2) For the CPU I was interested into the Phenom II x4 955. I already built a PC with this CPU on it and its ace... very fast and very very reliable. I am ready for 6 cores but they cost like 300$ so its a no-go lol.
3) For the GPU... here is the main concern. I plain to buy this monitor (Asus 22") mind you I'm linking newegg but I'm buying in Italy so this monitor costs me 120.
Now. For that monitor, and for that resolution a 5770 1gb would be ok I think BUT.
October november will mean 6xxx series. Buying a new 6xxx card? Maybe the "6770?" Dunno. Also I mostly play World of Warcraft and other rpgs (Dragon Age etc).
Whats your toughts?
I was thinking to upgrade my PC... Core2 Duo E4500 @2.2ghz, 4850 512MB, 2GB ram DDR2 etc etc... also my monitor is a 19" Acer 1440x900 @60hz.
This was ok last years, but now it wont even run WoW at ultra wt 60fps because my CPU is pure shit and my ram isnt even 800mhz.
Soo... I was thinking to replace my whole setup...!
My concerns are.
1) I am very limited in space. Max monitor is 22" and my pc will be micro atx, because for the love of god, my room is utter shit and there is no other place my PC can be placed. Sucks.
2) I was interested into the Micro Atx mobo, this one AsRock 890GM Pro3 with USB3/SATA3/eSata3 and other cool stuff like 6 cores that makes my PC last longer.
2) For the CPU I was interested into the Phenom II x4 955. I already built a PC with this CPU on it and its ace... very fast and very very reliable. I am ready for 6 cores but they cost like 300$ so its a no-go lol.
3) For the GPU... here is the main concern. I plain to buy this monitor (Asus 22") mind you I'm linking newegg but I'm buying in Italy so this monitor costs me 120.
Now. For that monitor, and for that resolution a 5770 1gb would be ok I think BUT.
October november will mean 6xxx series. Buying a new 6xxx card? Maybe the "6770?" Dunno. Also I mostly play World of Warcraft and other rpgs (Dragon Age etc).
Whats your toughts?
prelude514
Banned
Ok cool. Would it be worth it if I threw a 460 in as well as the QX9650 then?
Edit: or should I wait for the new ATIs launching in November instead of the 460?
Edit: or should I wait for the new ATIs launching in November instead of the 460?
prelude514 said:
I have a similar PC and I have the same problem. Staying with S775 doesn't seem to be a real option anymore since the best CPU's are getting old while still being expensive.
The upgrade I'm currently looking at is: Phenom II X4 955 (3,2ghz Black Edition), Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB, ASUS M4A87TD EVO, GeIL Value Dual Channel Kit DDR3 PC10660 2x2GB. (costs about 295 euro without the HDD, and it's probably cheaper in canada) I'll keep the rest of my system since it's still pretty decent and I'll upgrade my GPU later.
prelude514
Banned
I'd be ocing it as much as possible, my cooler is a thermalright True 120.Tensai said:
How bad would the bottleneck be on the 460 if I kept the E7400 @ 3.8 instead of the QX9650 @ max oc?
Thanks for all your help!
prelude514 said:
How much it would bottleneck depends on the game really, but more and more games with multicore support are being released so you'd probably have to upgrade between now and 6-9 months anyway. On the other hand a 460 would help more now, and would give you a significant boost in FPS. Although you have to take into account that GPU's age a lot faster than CPU's and late 2010/early next year AMD or Nvidia could release some new GPU's.
So it's there any thread for PC related issues not linked to building a new pc?
Like configs, OC questions, and such?
I got so many questions but I don't want to fill up this thread with them and delay people that want to jump on his/her new PC.
Maybe there should be on centric PC thread for those things
Like configs, OC questions, and such?
I got so many questions but I don't want to fill up this thread with them and delay people that want to jump on his/her new PC.
Maybe there should be on centric PC thread for those things
drhankmccoyphd
Member
It looks like my Gigabyte mobo may have shit the bed. Currently, I'm sitting on a AM 1090T and 770 mobo which should be under warranty. Should I consider moving over to intel with an i5 if I decide to sell the CPU mobo? I use emulators every now and then and since I'm practically rebuilding the whole tower anyways and the cost will be roughly the same does it seem like a good idea?
sooperkool
Member
Curufinwe said:
My EVGA 8800 GTS is just fine @ 1920 * 1080
hmm Gigabyte GTX 480 for "only" 360 ... should I order?
my 7900GT needs replacement, was planning to get something after Ati announced their 6*** series but with these nVidia price drops they become very interesting
Athlon II X4 atm but will upgrade to 6 core or Bulldozer next year I guess (sell rest to parents), using a 32" Samsung LCD as a monitor so I want to game at 1080p for the next 2 to 3 years ... not interested in SLI/Xfire, my Corsair HX650 PSU should be OK for a single 480
I should be good for the next ~3 years with a GTX 480 at 1080p right GAF?
(not max details at 4*AA ofcourse but my 7900GT can't even run Mafia 2 at lowest settings 480p with more than 20 fps :lol )
( GTX460/470 are interesting as well but less powerful and I don't want to swap cards within 18 months, and with the new ATI series the 5850/70 might become cheaper but they're still slower )
my 7900GT needs replacement, was planning to get something after Ati announced their 6*** series but with these nVidia price drops they become very interesting
Athlon II X4 atm but will upgrade to 6 core or Bulldozer next year I guess (sell rest to parents), using a 32" Samsung LCD as a monitor so I want to game at 1080p for the next 2 to 3 years ... not interested in SLI/Xfire, my Corsair HX650 PSU should be OK for a single 480
still I kinda fucking hate nVidia after their crappy notebook chips have been dying everywhere (my notebook bit the dust as well, under warranty but I know it will die again within a year or 2) and with all the heat a GTX480 produces I'm not entirely convinced of its durability either :/ oh well gonna watercool it eventually ...
I should be good for the next ~3 years with a GTX 480 at 1080p right GAF?
(not max details at 4*AA ofcourse but my 7900GT can't even run Mafia 2 at lowest settings 480p with more than 20 fps :lol )
( GTX460/470 are interesting as well but less powerful and I don't want to swap cards within 18 months, and with the new ATI series the 5850/70 might become cheaper but they're still slower )
Looking around for some pre-planning to upgrade my phenom II x3 720 BEE. I know that the Bulldozer and whatnots are coming around Q1 or whenever. And from that I understand the bulldozer, being somekind of AM3+ socket, will NOT be usuable on my m4n82 deluxe motherboard ( AM2+).
However, my motherboard is infact compatible with the current am3 phenom II x6s.
So I guess my question is :
The 1090T is 350$ here, whereas the 1055T is rougly 250$. When the bulldozer chips hits, what ( if any ) kind of priceredution are we talking about when it comes to the 1090T/1055T?
edit : the main reason I'm asking this is to figure out if there's a point in waiting/not waiting when it comes to my upgrade-alternatives.
However, my motherboard is infact compatible with the current am3 phenom II x6s.
So I guess my question is :
The 1090T is 350$ here, whereas the 1055T is rougly 250$. When the bulldozer chips hits, what ( if any ) kind of priceredution are we talking about when it comes to the 1090T/1055T?
edit : the main reason I'm asking this is to figure out if there's a point in waiting/not waiting when it comes to my upgrade-alternatives.
Couldn't run memtest. Now I know it's not hardware though. I just reinstalled win7 again and it worked. I was running borderlands just the same as before it started bugging out. Shut it off tried to turn it on in the morning and it froze at the login again. Some people online are having the same problem as me with win7 64 bit and the gtx 460. I figure I have two options either wait for a software fix (which may never happen) or get a different card. I'm not going to reinstall windows everytime I want to use the computer (5 times already).Hazaro said:
brain_stew
Member
r4z4 said:
Fantastic deal, Dell were asking more than £1000 for that rig just a few days ago.
You'll probably want to get rid of the RAID 0 setup mind, which'll mean reinstalling Windows, so make sure you get the Windows disc which is usually £5 more or so..
brain_stew
Member
Corky said:
There may not be any price drops at all and Bulldozer isn't expected until the second half of 2011.. The 1055T is a much better buy imo.
brain_stew said:
I looked into this deal a bit further to try and find a catch and I think the Dell Studio XPS 7100 ships with a 450W power supply, rafter reading this thread for a bit that seems like no where near enough for this setup right? So if I jump on this deal will I be looking to switch out the PSU also?
brain_stew
Member
r4z4 said:
Dell are very conservative with their PSU ratings, and in actual fact there's no reason a proper 450w PSU shouldn't be able to run those components. Its just not recommended to custom builders because PSU ratings can be very dodgy and there's no way for you to properly check whether it would manage it or not so its best to play it safe.
Dell wouldn't ship a system with a PSU that can't power the included components and several reviews from respected media back this up. The PSU is fine.
The only issue with that rig "out of the box" is the RAID 0 setup, its a disaster waiting to happen imo and the benefits just aren't worth it, if you want a faster boot drive these days you buy an SSD, not run a RAID 0 setup. You're much better off converting it to two separate drives and reinstalling Windows.
Minsc
Gold Member
brain_stew said:
Plus, full system load running Crysis on a 5870 is only around 320W, and that's on an overclocked i7.
brain_stew
Member
r4z4 said:
Well you certainly won't find a better prebuilt machine for that amount of money, I'll tell that right now.
brain_stew
Member
r4z4 said:
Join us, you won't regret it!
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
r4z4 said:
Hookers and blow? But even then we all know which is the better decision.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Hey Brain Stew have you heard of a GPU brand called Palit? They have a 2GB GTX 460 on newegg now and are the only ones. Are they decent? Or is it worth it to see if others make a 2GB version?
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
I need a new monitor. Currently I have a 19" Samsung T190. I would like to get something around 23" or 24" with at least 1 HDMI port.
Looking to spend <$250. Any good recommendations?
Currently I am looking at some Asus models that fit in my price range but have no experience with Asus displays.
I do have an Asus branded 5850 video card that has done me no wrong.
What say you GAF?
Looking to spend <$250. Any good recommendations?
Currently I am looking at some Asus models that fit in my price range but have no experience with Asus displays.
I do have an Asus branded 5850 video card that has done me no wrong.
What say you GAF?
brain_stew
Member
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
I have and they actually manufacture my GPU (under the Gainward brand) however their GTX 460s don't appear to be using any VRM cooling so I'd be a little hesitant. It may not be a deal breaker for you but its hardly ideal.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
brain_stew said:
Ah, ok.
brain_stew
Member
RbBrdMan said:
Stretch another $40 and you can afford an IPS panel from Viewsonic which will blow away anything else you can find in your budget:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...21&cm_re=viewsonic_ips-_-24-116-421-_-Product
If you have to get a TN panel due to cost, then make sure you don't spend more than $200. They're all roughly the same quality really and none are particularly fantastic (they're all 6 bit panels with horrendous viewing angles afterall) so its silly to spend a fortune on one.
The only possible exception is if you're looking at buying a 120hz panel but I think they may be outside of your price range anyway. Don't pay a premium for LED backlighting, its not worth it.
Edit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059
This'll do if you have to get a TN panel. Don't spend anything more than that though, you're just chucking money away.
anonymousAversa
Member
Yazus said:I guys. Wall of text inc, so be prepared
I was thinking to upgrade my PC... Core2 Duo E4500 @2.2ghz, 4850 512MB, 2GB ram DDR2 etc etc... also my monitor is a 19" Acer 1440x900 @60hz.
This was ok last years, but now it wont even run WoW at ultra wt 60fps because my CPU is pure shit and my ram isnt even 800mhz.
Soo... I was thinking to replace my whole setup...!
My concerns are.
1) I am very limited in space. Max monitor is 22" and my pc will be micro atx, because for the love of god, my room is utter shit and there is no other place my PC can be placed. Sucks.
2) I was interested into the Micro Atx mobo, this one AsRock 890GM Pro3 with USB3/SATA3/eSata3 and other cool stuff like 6 cores that makes my PC last longer.
2) For the CPU I was interested into the Phenom II x4 955. I already built a PC with this CPU on it and its ace... very fast and very very reliable. I am ready for 6 cores but they cost like 300$ so its a no-go lol.
3) For the GPU... here is the main concern. I plain to buy this monitor (Asus 22") mind you I'm linking newegg but I'm buying in Italy so this monitor costs me 120.
Now. For that monitor, and for that resolution a 5770 1gb would be ok I think BUT.
October november will mean 6xxx series. Buying a new 6xxx card? Maybe the "6770?" Dunno. Also I mostly play World of Warcraft and other rpgs (Dragon Age etc).
Whats your toughts?
How do you plan to fit a 5770 in a micro atx case?
moojito
Member
Following brain stew's good advice on not updating my gfx card to a 5770 without a decent cpu upgrade, I'm mulling over these two I found on novatech:
Novatech Motherboard Bundle - AMD II X4 635 - 4GB DDR2 800Mhz - Nvidia MCP61P
Novatech ATI Radeon 5770 1024MB GDDR5 TV-Out/DVI/HDMI PCI-Express Graphics Card - Retail
I'm not after an amazing system, obviously. But something that would let me have a go at the more recent games would be nice, and running tf2/wow at the highest settings. Those two come to £308. Anyone have any dire warnings against any of those components before I order? The reason I'm going for the bundle is having had some awful luck building systems from scratch in the past. The motherboard bundle seems a nice middle spot.
Cheers in advance!
Novatech Motherboard Bundle - AMD II X4 635 - 4GB DDR2 800Mhz - Nvidia MCP61P
Novatech ATI Radeon 5770 1024MB GDDR5 TV-Out/DVI/HDMI PCI-Express Graphics Card - Retail
I'm not after an amazing system, obviously. But something that would let me have a go at the more recent games would be nice, and running tf2/wow at the highest settings. Those two come to £308. Anyone have any dire warnings against any of those components before I order? The reason I'm going for the bundle is having had some awful luck building systems from scratch in the past. The motherboard bundle seems a nice middle spot.
Cheers in advance!