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Deus Ex Machina said:
LOL, people tell me I should Overclock.
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Well as long as the heat load is less than what the AC can do you can get some nice OC's...

I mean if you aren't at at least 3.8Ghz how can you live with yourself?
 
MisterAnderson said:
A friend of mine wants a computer at around $500. I told him I'd help him build one since I built mine last summer, but I'm a bit out of the loop as far as what costs what nowadays and what's the best bang for the buck. If anyone has any suggestions as to what might be good to get for him, I'm all ears.
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If he doesn't mind rebates maybe something like this? Tried to utlize a bunch of combo deals when I can.

-Asus Radeon 5750
-MSI 870A-G54 Motherboard + AMD Athlon II X4 630
-Corsair 650TX PSU + Samsung Spinpoint F3 HDD
-4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 Patriot RAM (Use code EMCYXZR56 for a $15 discount)
-NZXT M59 Case + Samsung DVD Burner

Total comes to $580.84 including shipping with like $90 worth of rebates. Making it a little under $500 in the end. :lol
 
Mikhal said:
If he doesn't mind rebates maybe something like this? Tried to utlize a bunch of combo deals when I can.

-Asus Radeon 5750
-MSI 870A-G54 Motherboard + AMD Athlon II X4 630
-Corsair 650TX PSU + Samsung Spinpoint F3 HDD
-4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 Patriot RAM (Use code EMCYXZR56 for a $15 discount)
-NZXT M59 Case + Samsung DVD Burner

Total comes to $580.84 including shipping with like $90 worth of rebates. Making it a little under $500 in the end. :lol
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Sounds about right.

Also 5770's are back down to $125 after rebate with a free game so hopping on that would be a nice little boost vs 5750. 4870 for raw power though.
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I know I'm being super anal but - I've just built my first pc and everything went relatively smoothly. I have two 460s.

First one went in no problem, second one was a bit of a tight fit. I pulled it back out and noticed one of the gold interconnect (teeth) was about half gone.

All told, I put the card back in and everything appears to work fine. Both cards are recognized and are set to SLI. My question is, so the way PCIe functions, is it possible that the damaged card would not operate at full capacity or was missing data or would it be all or nothing and it either worked or wouldn't show up at all?
 
kirbybreezy said:
I know I'm being super anal but - I've just built my first pc and everything went relatively smoothly. I have two 460s.

First one went in no problem, second one was a bit of a tight fit. I pulled it back out and noticed one of the gold interconnect (teeth) was about half gone.

All told, I put the card back in and everything appears to work fine. Both cards are recognized and are set to SLI. My question is, so the way PCIe functions, is it possible that the damaged card would not operate at full capacity or was missing data or would it be all or nothing and it either worked or wouldn't show up at all?
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It'll be fine. Also are you sure it wasn't just a half connector? Some cards have those.
e.g. http://www.hardwareoverclock.com/Grafikkarte/Asus_ENGTX260-007.jpg
 
VibratingDonkey said:
Is the installation procedure basically the same for all third party 775 coolers? You have to remove the motherboard and attach a backplate? Because I'd rather not.

Also I've had the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro suggested to me. Is that equivalent to, or at least not significantly worse than the Hyper 212? Because it comes with thermal paste pre-applied, which means one less thing for me to worry about.
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AFAIK most 775s use a screw on system, not a backplate. At least my Arctic Cooling one does, but I forgot the model. It could very well be the 7 Pro, though. As for the 212, check the manufacturer, as I have no experience with the cooler myself.

I believe the 212 is twice the price of the 7 Pro, but the 212 is a better cooler, no doubt. IMO the 7 Pro is the best cooler when you need a cheap aftermarket cooler that is average to good. Mild overclocking is still perfectly doable on that cooler. The 212, though, is a very good cooler, pretty silent too when not overclocking. I would go for the 212 for any serious gaming/overclocking, but it is a tad more expensive.

Also, check www.frostytech.com for all your cooler tests and questions.
 
Hazaro said:
Well as long as the heat load is less than what the AC can do you can get some nice OC's...

I mean if you aren't at at least 3.8Ghz how can you live with yourself?
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I just overclocked my 1090t to 3.7Ghz on stock voltage. I've been reading up on it a little and most people recommend 1.32v for 3.7GHz and since on stock voltage with C'nQ enable the lowest it goes is 1.33v I didn't see a need to manually set voltage.

I also left turbo enabled for a quick 4.1Ghz jolt when I need it. Turbo concern me a little but people are hitting 4.0GHz between 1.40v - 1.45v so I figured the default 1.33v(idle)-1.47v(turbo) should handled 4.1GHz on 3 cores
 
Dina said:
AFAIK most 775s use a screw on system, not a backplate. At least my Arctic Cooling one does, but I forgot the model. It could very well be the 7 Pro, though. As for the 212, check the manufacturer, as I have no experience with the cooler myself.

I believe the 212 is twice the price of the 7 Pro, but the 212 is a better cooler, no doubt. IMO the 7 Pro is the best cooler when you need a cheap aftermarket cooler that is average to good. Mild overclocking is still perfectly doable on that cooler. The 212, though, is a very good cooler, pretty silent too when not overclocking. I would go for the 212 for any serious gaming/overclocking, but it is a tad more expensive.

Also, check www.frostytech.com for all your cooler tests and questions.
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Thanks. I think I'm all set.
 
Hoping brain_stew or someone else can shed some light on this so I'm going to post it again on the new page.

Will a 9800GT and a 3.0 GHz dual core be able to run Diablo 3 and Alice 2 or will I need to upgrade other parts of my rig? I run games on 1280x800 and I don't mind Low or Medium. My PSU is only 420w so I can't get anything more powerful without replacing that as well. I've seen a few people make judgments on games based on lighting, poly counts etc in videos and screenshots so I'm hoping someone can do that here.

Thanks!
 
Jim Stark said:
Hoping brain_stew or someone else can shed some light on this so I'm going to post it again on the new page.

Will a 9800GT and a 3.0 GHz dual core be able to run Diablo 3 and Alice 2 or will I need to upgrade other parts of my rig? I run games on 1280x800 and I don't mind Low or Medium. My PSU is only 420w so I can't get anything more powerful without replacing that as well. I've seen a few people make judgments on games based on lighting, poly counts etc in videos and screenshots so I'm hoping someone can do that here.

Thanks!
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Seeing that Blizzard hasn't announced the system specs for Diablo 3, there's not way to officially tell you. However, going by requirements for Starcraft 2, you'll barely be able to play it. Got nothing on Alice 2 atm.
 
Shambles said:
Sadly they are both 16:9 displays :(
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16:10 with 1:1 pixel mapping is pretty great, you get the best of both worlds. My 1900x1200 Westinghouse does it and you don't even notice the black bars after a few minutes when running 16:9, if I was buying a new monitor and saw a 16:10 I liked with 1:1 I'd definitely consider it...

Edit: misread your post a bit, tweaked reply
 
My old motherboard ASUS p5n-e SLI died on me and I'm looking to get the best bang for my buck on the replacement.

Current config: E7500 CPU, Powercolor 5770 1 GB video card, 4 gigs DDR2, Antec 900 case, Caviar Black 1 TB Hard drive, Windows 7 ultimate, 450 W power supply.

Main use: Gaming SCII, WoW, Borderlands, League of Legends, DIRT 2, CIV 5 etc... Pretty much all over the map on genre's but want them all too look good at 1900 x 1080.

Secondary use: Media Streaming to PS3/360.

Requirements: Good performance + as quiet as possible because it will be in my Living room and I want to keep the wife aggro to a minimum while she's watching TV. Use as many parts as I can salvage at least video card, HD + Case.

Budget: $800 CAD or Less


Suggestions welcome
 
A little off topic, but I work at a major retailer in the Tech Department. Anyway, this guy brought his computer in yesterday, complaining that it won't turn on. I open his case up and everything seems ok, from a my vertical perspective. He then tells me he bought a new AGP card for his computer. And what do you know, he's got an AGP card jammed into a PCI Express slot. I notice this as he tells me that some of the pins aren't in the card and the handle on the end of the slot got in his way.

Anyone else have this happen?
 
Minsc said:
16:10 with 1:1 pixel mapping is pretty great, you get the best of both worlds. My 1900x1200 Westinghouse does it and you don't even notice the black bars after a few minutes when running 16:9, if I was buying a new monitor and saw a 16:10 I liked with 1:1 I'd definitely consider it...

Edit: misread your post a bit, tweaked reply
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The funny part about all these 16:9 monitors out now is that almost nothing has 16:9 source material. The only thing that comes to mind I believe is IMAX film. Why they would make that ratio for workspace is silly.
 
Shambles said:
The H70 is a waste of money and has worse noise than the cheaper but still as effective H50. Even the H50 at 80$ I wouldn't bother with but that is to each his own. I'd just as soon get a 30$ aftermarket cooler, strap another fan onto it and get the same performance as the 100$ coolers.
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you won't get the same performance doing that than an h50. basically the H70 is doing what i'm doing with my h50 right now. and it's a far quieter solution if you care about noise.
 
http://www.frostytech.com/

The best site for any heatsink comparison. Near the top right of the article you can select intel, amd, or quiet cooling.

Currently the Spire Thermax Ecplise II is the best intel cooler. I used this site to decide which heatsink to get for myself.

They have great in-detail reviews on cpu coolers in case some of you are shopping for some.

EDIT: Looks like I'm late to the party! WOOOO! BRING OUT THE CONFETTI! :lol
 
Jim Stark said:
Will a 9800GT and a 3.0 GHz dual core be able to run Diablo 3 and Alice 2 or will I need to upgrade other parts of my rig? I run games on 1280x800 and I don't mind Low or Medium. My PSU is only 420w so I can't get anything more powerful without replacing that as well. I've seen a few people make judgments on games based on lighting, poly counts etc in videos and screenshots so I'm hoping someone can do that here.

Thanks!
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Blizzard makes their games scale very well and I doubt you will have any trouble running it at that resolution on those settings with your hardware.

That said DIII will be out in over a year so you'll have plenty of time to think about upgrading :lol
teebs33 said:
My old motherboard ASUS p5n-e SLI died on me and I'm looking to get the best bang for my buck on the replacement.

Current config: E7500 CPU, Powercolor 5770 1 GB video card, 4 gigs DDR2, Antec 900 case, Caviar Black 1 TB Hard drive, Windows 7 ultimate, 450 W power supply.

Requirements: Good performance + as quiet as possible because it will be in my Living room and I want to keep the wife aggro to a minimum while she's watching TV. Use as many parts as I can salvage at least video card, HD + Case.
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If your PSU is a solid 450W you can reuse that.

i5 750, decent mobo, Slap in a GTX 460 1GB (or wait for 6xxx series), pawn the DDR2, pick up 4GB DDR3.
Get a decent cooler and some low speed fans.

http://i.imgur.com/A55hA.jpg
Smash88 said:
http://www.frostytech.com/

The best site for any heatsink comparison. Near the top right of the article you can select intel, amd, or quiet cooling.
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As with any reviews, check around on multiple sites. Frostytech is alright with getting ballparks, but many other websites have reviews as well.
 
Did you notice all the responses to your cooling question?


Shambles said:
The funny part about all these 16:9 monitors out now is that almost nothing has 16:9 source material. The only thing that comes to mind I believe is IMAX film. Why they would make that ratio for workspace is silly.
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Exactly. Very little of the HD material I watch is 16x9. I'd much rather have the added real estate, but the options are steadily dwindling.
 
evil solrac v3.0 said:
you won't get the same performance doing that than an h50. basically the H70 is doing what i'm doing with my h50 right now. and it's a far quieter solution if you care about noise.
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The numbers are quite similar between the two unless you turn the H70 fans on high in which case the noise is worse than the H50. The H70 is just the H50 with an additional fan. Sure the rad is a bit better and component quality is a bit better but you're still looking at the same performance as the H50 with a 2nd fan on it. Unless you're spending 2000$+ on your PC spending 100$ just to cool your CPU seems silly when you can spend 30$ instead and still be within a couple degrees of what the 100$ cooler does. Not to mention that 2 degree difference probably won't make any difference in your overclock, and even if it does you won't notice a 100Mhz difference on your processor.

The only market that these extremely high priced coolers make sense is for those entering overclock competitions and love to tinker in the BIOS with all those settings that your average enthusiast overclocker won't even touch, or those who are OCD.
 
Dash Kappei said:
So, I'm still trying to figure out my new rig
(here's my first post with the pics of the HTPC's room).
You guys have obviously forgot so a little reminder:

Main use:1080@24p movies/blu rays & Music player on a 110" screen (ratio 1.85:1).
Requisites: as silent as possible (like a PS3 would be awesome), hopefully not pushing out too much hot air (not much more than an old X360)
Gaming: solid 60fps@1080p (or at the very least 720p with lots of AA effects) with HIGH details on graphically "heavy" racing games (like F1 2010 or others there are going to come out in 2011/2012 (if possible). 95% of games I'll play on it will be racing games, my main gaming platforms will still be X360 and PS3, but I want to really push racing games with my G27 Logitech wheel and soon to be racing cockpit.
Budget: initially it was $750(and when I say $ I mean Euros, eheh) for everything bar the case and sound card, now I kinda know I need a bit more money ($/€900?), damn.

This is my case:
  • Thermaltaake DH 101

http://i55.tinypic.com/xatqav.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/35jvvj4.jpg


This is the build I've figured out with my buddy:
Components:

  • INTEL CPU Core i7 930 (Bloomfield) Quad Core 2,8 Ghz socket LGA1366 Boxed
    €291,99
  • GIGABYTE Motherboard GA-X58A-UD5 socket LGA1366 chipset Intel X58 ATX
    €304,99
  • ANTEC PSU CP-1000 Modular 1000 Watt steady ATX 12V version 2.3 and EPS version 2.91
    €126,49
  • SEAGATE Surveillance SV35.5 1 Tb Sata 300 Buffer 32 Mb 7200 Rpm
    €79,69
  • CORSAIR Dimm Dominator 6Gb (3x2Gb) DDR3 Triple Channel 1600 Mhz Unbuffered CL 8-8-8-24
    €165,99
  • SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5850 1Gb ddr5 Pci-E Dual DVI HDMI Display Port Sapphire Design
    €259,99
TOTAL (19% Italian IVA TAX INCLUDED): € 1.229,14 <-- too much!!


So, yeah I'd go waaaaay overbudget with this.
Is there a way to maintain similar performance (and how would you rate this custom build compared to the one you'll be -hopefully!- suggesting) but keeping it at €900 total?
Note that I have a side budget for the case and audio card (which, I'll stress it again so to not have replies focusing about that, I do actually need).
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You're going to be going away from the i7 930. Either tha i5 750 if you want to stay with Intel, or someone else can offer the current AMD alternative as well (I'm not quite up to date).
 
Any suggestions?

cartoon_soldier said:
Ok, long post. I configured 4 different systems, 1 at CyberpowerPC, 2 at ava direct, 1 at NCIX (damn 100$ shipping at NCIXUS too):

CYBERPOWER:

CASE: CoolerMaster Elite 310 Mid-Tower Case with See-Thru Side Panel [-6] (Red Color)
CD: Sony 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive [+3] (BLACK COLOR)
CPU: [Special] Intel® Core™ i7-950 3.06 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1366
CS_FAN: Maximum 120MM Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+9]
FA_HDD: Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System [+21] (1 x System)
FAN: NZXT Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
MEMORY: 6GB (2GBx3) DDR3/1600MHz Triple Channel Memory Module (Corsair or Major Brand)
MOTHERBOARD: (3-Way SLI Support) MSI X58A-GD65 Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Triple-Channel DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 Audio, eSATA, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III, RAID, IEEE1394a, 3 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1 & 2 PCI [-10]
NETWORK: Intel Pro Gigabite 10/100/1000 Network Card [+34]
NOISEREDUCE1: Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels [+29]
POWERSUPPLY: * 800 Watts - XtremeGear Gaming Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready
SOUND: Creative Labs SB Audigy SE [+30]
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card [-15] (EVGA Powered by NVIDIA [+10])

$1350
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AVADIRECT:

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 II Black Mid-Tower Computer Case w/ Window, ATX, No PSU, Steel/Aluminum/Plastic
COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus 600W, 600W Power Supply, ATX12V 2.3 EPS12V, Two 8/6-pin PCIe, Retail
ASUS P7H57D-V EVO, LGA1156, Intel® H57, DDR3-2133 (O.C.) 16GB /4, PCIe x16 SLI CF /2, SATA 3 Gb/s RAID 5 /6, 6 Gb/s /2, VGA+DVI, HDMI, HDA, GbLAN, FW /2, ATX, Retail
INTEL Core™ i5-760 Quad-Core 2.8GHz, LGA1156, 2.5 GT/s, 8MB L3 Cache, 45nm, 95W, EM64T EIST VT XD, Retail
COOLER MASTER Hyper 101i CPU Cooler, Socket 775/1156, Copper/Aluminum
CORSAIR 8GB (4 x 2GB) XMS3 PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL9 (9-9-9-24) 1.65V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC
EVGA GeForce® GTX 470 (AR) 607MHz, 1280MB GDDR5 3348MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, DVI /2, mini-HDMI, Retail
SEAGATE 1TB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 32MB cache
LITE-ON iHAS124 Black 24x DVD±RW Dual-Layer Burner, SATA, OEM
CREATIVE Sound Blaster® Audigy® SE, 7.1 channels, 24-bit, 96KHz, PCI, OEM

$1236

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 II Black/Silver Mid-Tower Computer Case w/ Window, ATX, No PSU, Steel/Aluminum/Plastic
HEC Orion HP 585D 585W Power Supply, 24-pin ATX, ATX12V, Dual 80mm Fans, OEM
ASUS P6T, LGA1366, Intel® X58, 6400 MT/s QPI, DDR3-2000 (O.C.) 12GB /6, PCIe x16 SLI CF /3, SATA 3.0 Gb/s RAID 5 /8, HDA, GbLAN, FW /2, ATX, Retail
INTEL Core™ i7-930 Quad-Core 2.8GHz, LGA1366, 4.8 GT/s QPI, 8MB L3 Cache, 45nm, 130W, EM64T EIST VT XD, Retail
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler, Socket 1366/1156/775/AM3/AM2, Copper/Aluminum, Retail
CORSAIR 6GB (3 x 2GB) XMS3 PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL9 (9-9-9-24) 1.65V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC
EVGA GeForce® GTX 470 (AR) 607MHz, 1280MB GDDR5 3348MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, DVI /2, mini-HDMI, Retail
SEAGATE 1TB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 32MB cache
LITE-ON iHAS124 Black 24x DVD±RW Dual-Layer Burner, SATA, OEM
CREATIVE Sound Blaster® Audigy® SE, 7.1 channels, 24-bit, 96KHz, PCI, OEM

$1311
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NCIX:

1 x Intel Core i5 760 Quad Core Processor Lynnfield LGA1156 2.8GHZ 8MB Cache Retail Box
1 x Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366 LGA775 LGA1156 120MM
1 x MSI P55A-G55 P55 ATX LGA1156 DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI SLI CrossFireX SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard
2 x G.SKILL F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH Ripjaws PC3-12800 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1600 CL7-7-7-24 Core i5 Memory Kit
1 x GeForce GTX 460 675MHZ 1024MB PCI-E Dual DVI Mini HDMI
This video card is available only as part of a custom-built NCIX PC system.
1 x Coolermaster CM 690 II Advanced ATX Mid Tower Case Black 4X5.25 1X3.5EXT 6X3.5INT *No PSU*
1 x Seasonic S12II 620W EPS12V 20/24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 80+ Bronze 6+8PIN PCI-E W/ 120MM Fan
1 x Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM
1 x LG GH22NS50 Black 22X SATA DVD Writer OEM
1 x Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Xtreme Audio 24BIT Sound Card 7.1 PCI OEM
1 x Please Use The Onboard Network Ethernet Card Integrated On My Motherboard
1 x PC Assembly and Testing With 1 Year Limited NCIX System Warranty (PRE-CONFIG WIN. OS If Purchased)

$1285 (+100 Shipping)

Any suggestions which one is good and what I should replace/use in those?
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Bumping for new page.
 
The 2nd AVADIRECT isn't bad, but you can trim 4GB off ($100) your NCIX, maybe get a CM 310 or cheaper case as well (-$40) and the X-Fi as well (-?).

You are getting better parts with NCIX, especially on the PSU.
 
Yea, I was thinking about that, going with 4GB RAM right now and Upgrading in the future when I feel like it.

Thanks, will play around with the setup on NCIX again.
 
So, I am reading some unfavorable reviews on MSI Motherboards, what do you guys think?

Some of my Options:

- MSI P55A-G55 P55 ATX LGA1156 DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI SLI CrossFireX SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard $135
- ASUS P5P43TD/USB3 ATX LGA775 DDR3 P43 PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI Sound 6SATA USB3.0 GBLAN Motherboard $110
- ASUS P7P55D-E LGA1156 P55 DDR3 2PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI CrossFireX USB3.0 SATA 6GB Motherboard $166
- ASUS P7P55D-E LX LGA1156 P55 ATX DDR3 1PCI-E16 4PCI-E1 2PCI USB3.0 SATA 6GB Sound GBLAN Motherboard $142
- Gigabyte P55-USB3 ATX LGA1156 P55 DDR3 2PCI-E16 3PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN USB3.0 CrossFireX Motherboard $135

Thanks

Edit:

Also, for the following RAM:
Corsair XMS3 CMX4GX3M2A1600C7 4GB DDR3 2X2GB DDR3-1600 CL 7-8-7-20 Core i5 Dual Channel Memory Kit

if I buy 4GB right now, do I need to get the exact same 4GB again to expand to 8GB?

And is there a significant advantage to getting 2x2x2x2 GB instead of 2x4GB for 8GB setups?

Thanks
 
What, so no one has anything to say about my build proposal? Is it that boring and generic and made of components that everyone else buys on Newegg too that there's nothing to say about it? :lol
 
an i5 760 shouldnt be at 60 degrees celsius on idle right?

i checked it with 2 different temp readers recommended on the first page so im pretty sure the reading is right.

the fan on the heatsink is spinning

the 2 other fans in the case (one of which was even optional) are spinning and one is even set to high

nothing is overclocked

the graphics card is a gtx 460 and its faaar away from the processor

this is what the inside looks like:

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what could be causing the heat?

ive googled around and im not sure what it could be? should i try fiddling with the heatsink? Thanks for any help.
 
evil solrac v3.0 said:
is the GTX 470 far ahead performance wise or is it negligible.
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Well it certainly isn't 50% faster in most practical applications if that is what you are asking :p
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/180?vs=160

Note the resolutions. Lower res = the less GPU power matters.
If you are playing at insanely high resolutions I'd say get a faster card. If it's 1920x____ then a 460 is a better value buy right now.

Unknown Soldier said:
What, so no one has anything to say about my build proposal? Is it that boring and generic and made of components that everyone else buys on Newegg too that there's nothing to say about it? :lol
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See post above yours.
I did respond
-COOLIO- said:
an i5 760 shouldnt be at 60 degrees celsius on idle right?

would could be causing the heat?
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Remount the HS, make sure all 4 pegs are shoved in alllllllll the way. (Don't twist to install, only to remove)
And move your GPU to the top slot :/
 
Unknown Soldier said:
Cross-posted from this thread.



Is this an appropriate bang for buck upgrade? My paramount goal is a 4 ghz overclock or higher. Apparently to get the best performance out of FFXIV you need 4 ghz (no joke). :lol
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looks good to me.

but if youre just looking for a 4ghz quadcore and youre concerned about the mobo being obsolete soon, why not just go the i5 760 and GA-P55-UD3 route? it should save you about $160. is $200 for a mobo that wont last beyond 2011 worth it?

thats my 2 cents anyway :*


Hazaro said:
Remount the HS, make sure all 4 pegs are shoved in alllllllll the way. (Don't twist to install, only to remove)
And move your GPU to the top slot :/
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aye aye sir!

thanks :D
 
so i popped off the heatsink, pressed the pins in hard and the temps are about the same :[

i think the pins were in fine to begin with

is this how my processor and heatsink should look though? i thought thermal paste was a clear looking substance no?

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fake edit: this is what thermal paste looks like unmelted

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That's what thermal paste looks like when it's stuck together and then taken apart. It may be a good idea to clean it off and put some new paste on there. They didn't fuck up. And stock coolers suck, and with those crappy screw things it's hard to get the pressure that's so important. My temps were fairly bad until I got a better cooler.
 
Clevinger said:
That's what thermal paste looks like when it's stuck together and then taken apart. It may be a good idea to clean it off and put some new paste on there. They didn't fuck up.
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hmm :[

ive had this computer for about a week and the processor has been at around 70 degrees on idle since i got it. i only recently just realized that this is bad. the 460 is at 30 degrees on idle and im reading that 40 c on an i5 750 is normal for idle. i dont get where this extra 30 degrees could be coming from.

just in case this isnt ncix's fault ill edit it out though until i know whats up.
 
I installed an Asus Xonar Essence ST sound card in my computer today and it makes an electrical cracking on boot up and shut down. I intend to get it replaced asap but I'm wondering if it's safe to keep it in my computer until I do that. It's working just fine (incredibly fine actually) and I'm enjoying it too much to rip it out and go back to on board sound.
 
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