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"I need a new PC!" 2010 Edition
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Mr Nightman
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Damn, I may have to snag one this x-mas, seems really niceThe Big Rig said:
I just finished my setup and now im a little worried about my PSU
i didnt turn the computer on yet but I have a gut feeling 550W may be too low for my setup
I have:
core i5 760 CPU with asus p7p55d-e lx MoBo
HD redeon 6850
hyper 212 plus cooler
1 HDD
1 2x DvD drive
3 fans (2 more sitting by; not yet installed)
Gkill memony 2x2GB
I did the calculator on ASUS support site but it doesnt even have the 6850 available to choose in the lists. I dont know, maybe im just nervous :lol
i didnt turn the computer on yet but I have a gut feeling 550W may be too low for my setup
I have:
core i5 760 CPU with asus p7p55d-e lx MoBo
HD redeon 6850
hyper 212 plus cooler
1 HDD
1 2x DvD drive
3 fans (2 more sitting by; not yet installed)
Gkill memony 2x2GB
I did the calculator on ASUS support site but it doesnt even have the 6850 available to choose in the lists. I dont know, maybe im just nervous :lol
evil solrac v3.0
Member
Arsenic said:
it's more than enough, what brand PSU?
edit: anyone have any recommendations on a good wireless mouse that's not a razer mamba? or keyboard?
Hazaro said:
evil solrac v3.0 said:
filipe said:
Corsair 550W
I'm just going to turn it on and see what happens :lol
EDIT: it's booting up just fine, installing windows atm
There wouldn't be a point. Memtest 86+ was one of the another apps that would detect and read all 6gb of ram, but would only state that 4gb was available... And it was always the A1 channel that would be the one with the problem. The same stick of ram would not boot in A1, but would in B1 and C1. A quick test passed all three sticks anyways.Cipherr said:
I don't know. The culprits could either be the ram (most likely not), cpu (most likely not), the backplate/tightness of the cooler (doubtful), or the mobo (maybe...). Yeah, I didn't like my choices.
Servizio
I don't really need a tag, but I figured I'd get one to make people jealous. Is it working?
Anyone have any thoughts on mouse pads, gaming mats, or mouse surfaces in general?
I've been using my mouse on my wooden desk for years now but I've noticed it sort of sticking in spots lately. I'd like to get something flattish and hard, and I've looked at some of the offerings from Razer but they're a bit pricey and I don't really care for how prominent the logos are.
I've been using my mouse on my wooden desk for years now but I've noticed it sort of sticking in spots lately. I'd like to get something flattish and hard, and I've looked at some of the offerings from Razer but they're a bit pricey and I don't really care for how prominent the logos are.
twdnewh_k
Member
Crunched said:
Thanks. It really was a no brainer to go plasma again, but then I started hearing things like LCD/LED is better for pc gaming. I wont be using it from regular pc use so I dont have to worry about all these issues, but again I just keep hearing that plasma is just not very pc friendly.
opticalmace
Member
I'm not familiar with HDD temps but the obvious solutions would be to move it away from your video card (if possible), or add an extra fan? I guess try to give it more room?darthbob said:
·feist· said:
No, it's correct, Speccy and Speedfan both reported it after a gaming session.
My case doesn't have an intake fan or anything, and I moved away anything obstructing it.
opticalmace said:
I've tried moving it around, and nothing changed.
This is at idle.
I've got three fans. One on top exhausting, one on the side, intaking, and one in the back exhausting, although, I never feel much air coming from that one.
opticalmace
Member
From the WD site,
"Temperature (Metric)
Operating -0° C to 60° C"
Sounds like your HDD is within operating parameters. I wouldn't worry about it.
"Temperature (Metric)
Operating -0° C to 60° C"
Sounds like your HDD is within operating parameters. I wouldn't worry about it.
That will do it. Your temps sound right in line with what you'd get with high ambient or a build with poor airflow.darthbob said:
You have a negative pressure setup which only works when the exhausts are effective. You didn't state which case it is. Assuming you have a standard ATX tower design, I'd recommend moving that side fan to a front intake position. Preferably a low one. If your GPU temps seems to rise a great deal, you're just going to need to buy at least one additional fan, or source one/some from another build.
Can't overstate the importance of airflow and proper cooling to the performance, durability and lifespan of your components.
The Big Rig said:
Sweeeet. Be sure to send your rebate in quickly. I just tried to get around to sending mine in last week and realized I was 10 days over all of the deadlines for the rebates. :lol Lost out on like 50$. Haha, oh well.
Mr Nightman said:
It was on sale for 129.99 back when he bought it. :lol Its since jumped back up to 179.99. But they bounce around with those coupon deals all the time.
darthbob said:
Sexcellent. In pretty much every way. Youll get your airflow, youll get nice space and a good design. You'll get dust filters everywhere. Youll get like 3 included fans, and room for a billion more. Just an excellent case.
Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGvBjEmXJnI
Lookit.
Jakeh111 said:
That's actually not so simple
Only CPU? You're staying on socket 775?
If you are your best bet is just investing a part of that money on a good air-cooler and try to OC it. Q6600 is among the better 775 CPU's and your next step up would be a Q9550 and those all cost > $200 and are probably not worth the money if you got a Q6600 which you can OC.
What mobo do you have?
IrishNinja
Member
my SG-07 showed up today, GAF! so happy. haven't had a chance to crack it open yet, i do intend to take pics of the wiring they did for -feist- and any other interested parties.
so of course, the first thing i did after installing windows 7 was run a prime95 torture test, and the results were interesting...bear in mind, the top fan the case usually brings is removed to fit all the parts, but there's a custom water cooling kit within. to recap, specs are i5-760, GigaByte GA-H55N-USB3, 4GB DDR3, ATI 6870 (offline at the moment so i gotta go get the drivers, runs like crap right now), 1.5 TB HDD etc.
temps per speedfan...idle:
Temp 1 - 54 C
Temp 2 - 25
Temp 3 - 27
Core 0 - 23
Core 1 - 23
Core 2 - 23
Core 3 - 23
after 1 hour on blend test:
Temp 1 - 82 C
Temp 2 - 25
Temp 3 - 88
Core 0 - 84
Core 1 - 83
Core 2 - 80
Core 3 - 81
i don't know what each temp is referring to specifically, and i don't expect anything to really run the system at 100% much, but...should i be worried? no idea what a good range is here, or if my idle is too high. bear in mind, its a small form function PC with a lotta parts crammed in there and vents all over. i will most likely want to overclock this chip to @ 4ghz at some point for dolphin use, so i'm hoping that's within a safe range here. thoughts?
*edit just noticed intel says TCASE (?) is 72.7C, so uh...good?
so happy. haven't had a chance to crack it open yet, i do intend to take pics of the wiring they did for -feist- and any other interested parties. so of course, the first thing i did after installing windows 7 was run a prime95 torture test, and the results were interesting...bear in mind, the top fan the case usually brings is removed to fit all the parts, but there's a custom water cooling kit within. to recap, specs are i5-760, GigaByte GA-H55N-USB3, 4GB DDR3, ATI 6870 (offline at the moment so i gotta go get the drivers, runs like crap right now), 1.5 TB HDD etc.
temps per speedfan...idle:
Temp 1 - 54 C
Temp 2 - 25
Temp 3 - 27
Core 0 - 23
Core 1 - 23
Core 2 - 23
Core 3 - 23
after 1 hour on blend test:
Temp 1 - 82 C
Temp 2 - 25
Temp 3 - 88
Core 0 - 84
Core 1 - 83
Core 2 - 80
Core 3 - 81
i don't know what each temp is referring to specifically, and i don't expect anything to really run the system at 100% much, but...should i be worried? no idea what a good range is here, or if my idle is too high. bear in mind, its a small form function PC with a lotta parts crammed in there and vents all over. i will most likely want to overclock this chip to @ 4ghz at some point for dolphin use, so i'm hoping that's within a safe range here. thoughts?
*edit just noticed intel says TCASE (?) is 72.7C, so uh...good?
Cipherr said:
Little tip, if you missed out on those rebates, you have a good chance of getting it later on. Wait about 5 weeks and call up the rebate center. Say that you turned it in and you have no update. Most centers let you send in the "copies" of the original paperwork for a 2nd chance.
IrishNinja said:my SG-07 showed up today, GAF!
so of course, the first thing i did after installing windows 7 was run a prime95 torture test, and the results were interesting...bear in mind, the top fan the case usually brings is removed to fit all the parts, but there's a custom water cooling kit within. to recap, specs are i5-760, GigaByte GA-H55N-USB3, 4GB DDR3, ATI 6870 (offline at the moment so i gotta go get the drivers, runs like crap right now), 1.5 TB HDD etc.
temps per speedfan...idle:
Temp 1 - 54 C
Temp 2 - 25
Temp 3 - 27
Core 0 - 23
Core 1 - 23
Core 2 - 23
Core 3 - 23
after 1 hour on blend test:
Temp 1 - 82 C
Temp 2 - 25
Temp 3 - 88
Core 0 - 84
Core 1 - 83
Core 2 - 80
Core 3 - 81
i don't know what each temp is referring to specifically, and i don't expect anything to really run the system at 100% much, but...should i be worried? no idea what a good range is here, or if my idle is too high. bear in mind, its a small form function PC with a lotta parts crammed in there and vents all over. i will most likely want to overclock this chip to @ 4ghz at some point for dolphin use, so i'm hoping that's within a safe range here. thoughts?
*edit just noticed intel says TCASE (?) is 72.7C, so uh...good?
Uhm, those idle temps are great, you're running stock now? But those loadtemps are pretty high for a custom water cooling kit. You need to pay attention to the individual coretemps btw. That temp1 you bolded is the CPU surface temperature, I think.
Coretemps around 80/84 is about the highest I'ld go on a i5, meaning, if you're allready hitting those at stock with your current cooling solution I'ld think twice about OC'ing it / sending more voltage through it. Anyway, in the 80s is high but won't break your CPU or anything, and it's not like you'll hit those temps with regular use.
My main concern would be your watercooling efficiency atm. I don't really know a lot about watercooling but I think you need a better way to cool your radiator.
opticalmace
Member
That seems really hot under load. I would definitely figure out what's wrong with the cooling setup before you do anything.IrishNinja said:my SG-07 showed up today, GAF!
so of course, the first thing i did after installing windows 7 was run a prime95 torture test, and the results were interesting...bear in mind, the top fan the case usually brings is removed to fit all the parts, but there's a custom water cooling kit within. to recap, specs are i5-760, GigaByte GA-H55N-USB3, 4GB DDR3, ATI 6870 (offline at the moment so i gotta go get the drivers, runs like crap right now), 1.5 TB HDD etc.
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*edit just noticed intel says TCASE (?) is 72.7C, so uh...good?
IrishNinja
Member
...crap. not sure how much i can do to affect it, i bought some thermal paste but im pretty sure they applied it thoroughly before shipping. it's pretty tight in there, i guess i can always try to see if there's room for anymore small fans.
any suggestions here? i was reading you need to turn off turboboost if you want to OC anyway, would do this now perhaps bring down the load temps a bit? anything else i'm not thinking of?
*edit: just noticed a program installed with the board, EasyTune6, gonna see if the settings here can help at all.
any suggestions here? i was reading you need to turn off turboboost if you want to OC anyway, would do this now perhaps bring down the load temps a bit? anything else i'm not thinking of?
*edit: just noticed a program installed with the board, EasyTune6, gonna see if the settings here can help at all.
IrishNinja said:my SG-07 showed up today, GAF!
so of course, the first thing i did after installing windows 7 was run a prime95 torture test, and the results were interesting...bear in mind, the top fan the case usually brings is removed to fit all the parts, but there's a custom water cooling kit within. to recap, specs are i5-760, GigaByte GA-H55N-USB3, 4GB DDR3, ATI 6870 (offline at the moment so i gotta go get the drivers, runs like crap right now), 1.5 TB HDD etc.
temps per speedfan...idle:
Temp 1 - 54 C
Temp 2 - 25
Temp 3 - 27
Core 0 - 23
Core 1 - 23
Core 2 - 23
Core 3 - 23
after 1 hour on blend test:
Temp 1 - 82 C
Temp 2 - 25
Temp 3 - 88
Core 0 - 84
Core 1 - 83
Core 2 - 80
Core 3 - 81
i don't know what each temp is referring to specifically, and i don't expect anything to really run the system at 100% much, but...should i be worried? no idea what a good range is here, or if my idle is too high. bear in mind, its a small form function PC with a lotta parts crammed in there and vents all over. i will most likely want to overclock this chip to @ 4ghz at some point for dolphin use, so i'm hoping that's within a safe range here. thoughts?
*edit just noticed intel says TCASE (?) is 72.7C, so uh...good?
Load temps are extremely high. You won't be able to OC without adding some additional cooling or turning up your fans some more. That's the price you pay for a small form factor.
Your temps don't seem abnormal though. Take a look at this review:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2010/06/28/silverstone-sugo-sg07-mini-itx-case-review/3
Keep in mind Delta T is the temperature above ambient.
IrishNinja
Member
yeah, i recall that review & kinda expected something similar, but went in optimistic since the build came with a custom liquid cooling setup. speedfan only shows 2 fans otherwise, so im hoping for room to increase that.
gonna check these gigiabyte board programs to ensure fans are running at 100%, again though, would taking off turboboost (guessing this is in the bios) help much? should i be looking for an aftermarket cooling solution instead of this liquid one? not even sure which ones are any good that would fit this SG07 case. thanks again guys.
gonna check these gigiabyte board programs to ensure fans are running at 100%, again though, would taking off turboboost (guessing this is in the bios) help much? should i be looking for an aftermarket cooling solution instead of this liquid one? not even sure which ones are any good that would fit this SG07 case. thanks again guys.
sup angel!
wandering goat
Member
Today I tried reversing the top fan of my HAF 922 to make it an intake instead of an exhaust, and thought I'd post the results for any other HAF 922 owners. I tried to make it more or less fair, but it's probably not 100% accurate (I don't really have the patience for that).
Anyway, set up is i5-760 @ 3.8 GHz and 1.25 VCore with Hyper 212+ cooler, and Asus EAH6850 @ 920 MHz and 4620 MHz memory (using auto fan settings, which keep RPS at around 50% at load). No side fan was installed. Test programs were Prime 95 Large FFTs and Furmark XTreme Burning mode, 1280 x 1024 with 4x MSAA. Ran 20 mins. of Prime95, then 10 min of that with Furmark, then cooled off the GPU to idle temps and ran 10 min of Furmark alone. I did the top fan as intake first, then reversed it again and tested it as exhaust.
Top Fan as Intake
CPU
Idle - 47C
Load - 72C
GPU
Idle - 56C
Load - 80C
Both at Load
CPU - 75C
GPU - 81C
Top Fan as Exhaust (stock setting)
CPU
Idle - 46C
Load - 72C
GPU
Idle - 53C
Load - 78C
Both at Load
CPU - 74C
GPU - 78C
So basically, my conclusion is that there was pretty much no difference in CPU temperatures, but it seems like GPU temps went up by changing the fan to an intake. Of course, YMMV, but for HAF 922 owners, I don't see any compelling reason to switch the fans from stock based on my results, especially given that it would probably lead to more dust entering the case than with stock settings.
Anyway, set up is i5-760 @ 3.8 GHz and 1.25 VCore with Hyper 212+ cooler, and Asus EAH6850 @ 920 MHz and 4620 MHz memory (using auto fan settings, which keep RPS at around 50% at load). No side fan was installed. Test programs were Prime 95 Large FFTs and Furmark XTreme Burning mode, 1280 x 1024 with 4x MSAA. Ran 20 mins. of Prime95, then 10 min of that with Furmark, then cooled off the GPU to idle temps and ran 10 min of Furmark alone. I did the top fan as intake first, then reversed it again and tested it as exhaust.
Top Fan as Intake
CPU
Idle - 47C
Load - 72C
GPU
Idle - 56C
Load - 80C
Both at Load
CPU - 75C
GPU - 81C
Top Fan as Exhaust (stock setting)
CPU
Idle - 46C
Load - 72C
GPU
Idle - 53C
Load - 78C
Both at Load
CPU - 74C
GPU - 78C
So basically, my conclusion is that there was pretty much no difference in CPU temperatures, but it seems like GPU temps went up by changing the fan to an intake. Of course, YMMV, but for HAF 922 owners, I don't see any compelling reason to switch the fans from stock based on my results, especially given that it would probably lead to more dust entering the case than with stock settings.
Just removed my hyper 212 as I knew my thermal paste application was absolute shite :lol This time I took my time and did it much better. When I removed the cooler I could see where there must have been air bubbles and the spread was godawful.
My temps were great the night of the build, 35 or so idle and 65 or so at load. But as the days went buy after 3 weeks it was similar idle but 69 at load. I refitted it all, put the paste on correctly after cleaning the old stuff off, and repositioned the cooler also, so that it blows through the fins upwards right at the 200mm exhaust fan at the top of the case (previously I had the fan blowing the air through the fins and right towards the rear 140m exhaust fan.
Temps are better now. At load for 30m with prime it maxed out at 63c and 61 to 62 on the other 3 cores. After letting it get comfy a few days Im going to clock it. Would like to get a stable 3.8GHZ out of this 950 if I can.
My temps were great the night of the build, 35 or so idle and 65 or so at load. But as the days went buy after 3 weeks it was similar idle but 69 at load. I refitted it all, put the paste on correctly after cleaning the old stuff off, and repositioned the cooler also, so that it blows through the fins upwards right at the 200mm exhaust fan at the top of the case (previously I had the fan blowing the air through the fins and right towards the rear 140m exhaust fan.
Temps are better now. At load for 30m with prime it maxed out at 63c and 61 to 62 on the other 3 cores. After letting it get comfy a few days Im going to clock it. Would like to get a stable 3.8GHZ out of this 950 if I can.
Looking to build my own system in the next month or so.
The PC will primarily be used for programming and surfing the web, doing work with pictures and video, but I also want it to be suitable for gaming.
I'm thinking my budget will be $1500-2000 with a dual monitor setup (23" each, I need plenty of space for windows etc).
Would prefer an i7 Intel with at least 6gb of ddr3 ram.
Would also prefer the best vid card I can get in the $200-250 range.
Decent power supply, and 1TB 7200 HD (unless anyone has a good argument for an SSD).
I also need careful consideration when it comes to a case for cooling. We don't have air conditioning and it gets fairly warm in the office upstairs where the computer will be. I have an old Dell from 2003 that gets extremely loud with the fan in the summer. (is Antec 900 good or should I go with a Cooler Master?)
Anyone willing to help?
edit: Read back a few pages and saw some good setups...maybe what I'm going for here is overkill?
The PC will primarily be used for programming and surfing the web, doing work with pictures and video, but I also want it to be suitable for gaming.
I'm thinking my budget will be $1500-2000 with a dual monitor setup (23" each, I need plenty of space for windows etc).
Would prefer an i7 Intel with at least 6gb of ddr3 ram.
Would also prefer the best vid card I can get in the $200-250 range.
Decent power supply, and 1TB 7200 HD (unless anyone has a good argument for an SSD).
I also need careful consideration when it comes to a case for cooling. We don't have air conditioning and it gets fairly warm in the office upstairs where the computer will be. I have an old Dell from 2003 that gets extremely loud with the fan in the summer. (is Antec 900 good or should I go with a Cooler Master?)
Anyone willing to help?
edit: Read back a few pages and saw some good setups...maybe what I'm going for here is overkill?
demosthenes
Member
Best 7200 rpm HD @ 1 or 1.5 TB?
demosthenes said:
Best 7200 rpm HD @ 1TB is the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3
No idea about the speeds on the 1.5's though.
demosthenes
Member
Cipherr said:
That's what I thought! Xmas gift for friend
Angelus Errare
Banned
Just finished putting together my "holding me over until sandy bridge, because I have disposable income." rig together, god I forgot how much I love Windows 7. Everything is new except the OS HDD. It booted up, flushed my old hardware drivers out, downloaded the new ones without a hitch. Took it all of 6 seconds and 1 reboot.
God I remember the Windows XP days when you moved your HDD to a new rig....it was a pain in the ass.
God I remember the Windows XP days when you moved your HDD to a new rig....it was a pain in the ass.
demosthenes
Member
Najaf said:
Open up the case and air blast everything. Take the video card out and get at it from all angles, clean the intake covers off and blow out the hyper 212+ cooler. Use A LOT of air :lol
IrishNinja
Member
alright, still looking into my cooling issue - but now that ive got the right drivers for my 6870, the fan's crazy-loud, even at idle. i read a few links saying i should take it down to < 50% speed, but the Catalyst Control Center it bundles with gives no such options...how do i manually adjust the fan speed?
also, if anyone has ideal settings for gaming from within CCC (as far as AA and other affects), lemme know. i know i gotta play with a bit, just wondering if there's anything i should focus on/negate.
also, if anyone has ideal settings for gaming from within CCC (as far as AA and other affects), lemme know. i know i gotta play with a bit, just wondering if there's anything i should focus on/negate.