"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]

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shagg_187 said:
LOL. I'm going through the same thing as well. BF3 is killing my PC and no other game has come this close! :P

I am feeling the freaking heat. The fan is loud as fuck and It's hitting 55/60C when other games hit 45C and Idle is 30/35C.
55-60c is nothing. Setup your fan profile so it's not as loud. Let the card get to about 75c and it'll be a lot quieter.
JackEtc said:
I just adjusted it based on a few pics I saw of other users profiles, and hit apply. The computer didn't explode. How can I tell if I need to up the voltage? What should I up it to?

I mean, I'm good with computers, but I didn't even know OCing GPUs was a thing.
Play a game or run Furmark while monitoring temps and checking stability. If it crashes you either need to back off your clocks or increase the voltage.
 
JackEtc said:
So I wanted to see if I could overclock my EVGA GTX 570 SC, so I read some forums.

I honestly have no idea what's up, or how to ACTUALLY judge this stuff, so I just copied some settings from various forum posts claiming success. Can someone tell me if this is okay?

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Probably not the best idea to dick around with your voltage settings then.
 
hmm, just got a new laptop sager laptop. installed the lan driver and I still can't connect. any idea where I should start trouble shooting beyond what I have already done?
 
Alright GAF, a buddy of mine wants to build a new PC. Here's his Newegg wishlist right now:

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=17207552

His budget is about $1,500. That's a very basic template of what he's looking at, but he hasn't even determined whether or not everything is compatible or what his best options are. So, GAF, pretend that you have $1,500 to spare on a new PC. What would YOUR build look like? Have fun and let's help him put together a beast.
 
Okay guys this is what I went with (DVD and extra 8GB are for another computer):
  • Case: Corsair 400R
  • Mobo: AsRock Z68
  • GPU: EVGA Superclocked 570 1.2GB
  • PSU: Earthwatts 650W
  • CPU: Intel i7 2600K
  • RAM: 8GB Kingston HyperX 1600 DDR3
  • SSD: Crucial M4 64GB
  • HDD: Spinpoint F3 1TB
  • Peripherals: G400 and a basic Lite-on USB keyboard.
  • Monitor: Asus VZ276Q 27" LCD
  • Optical Drive: LG Black Blu-ray BD-R
  • HSF: Coolermaster 212 Hyper

Picture:
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sersteven said:
Okay guys this is what I went with (DVD and extra 8GB are for another computer):
Looks good, let me know how the fan on the RAM works out and how much you need to raise it.
 
Hazaro said:
Looks good, let me know how the fan on the RAM works out and how much you need to raise it.

Will do.

I went with priority processing just because they do tend to screw you over sometimes with ridiculous processing waits. Their shipping is always fantastic though.

I almost went for a 128GB SSD but honestly besides for firefox and windows 7 itself, I'm fine with 7200RPM for now.

And maybe GW2 will find a space on it as well when that comes out.

The ONE thing I was iffy on was the 650W instead of 750, but I have no intentions on getting a 580 or another 570 to SLI so I felt it wasn't necessary.
 
Sersteven, do you happen to live near a Micro Center?


Syphon Filter said:
Does anyone have the dell u2211h monitor?
Looks like chaosblade does:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=30268179&postcount=9843
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=30473504&postcount=10859

Hopefully he, or any other owners drop in soon. A number of people here also have the U2311H, which may or may not be similar enough to help you out.


Wolf Akela said:
It'd be nice to know about dust accumulation too.
From personal experience, mesh seems to do the best job of it. The 180mm SilverStone AP181s I have come with a swirl grill built in, to direct air. While they blow outwards, instead of drawing in, they incidentally catch a fair bit a dust in the process.
 
Unless I'm mistaken, all of Dell's IPS models are matte. Can't speak to their TN models, though.

http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/review/monitors/dell/ultrasharp_u2211h/353323
"The screen has a matte finish, so it doesn't reflect any light and is ideal for office use."

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1022386
"Most important of all, however, is that the Dell monitor has a matte coating..."
"...so at the end of the day I am quite happy, enjoying my nice IPS matte display."

Most of their bezels are matte, as well.
 
·feist· said:
Unless I'm mistaken, all of Dell's IPS models are matte. Can't speak to their TN models, though.

http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/review/monitors/dell/ultrasharp_u2211h/353323
"The screen has a matte finish, so it doesn't reflect any light and is ideal for office use."

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1022386
"Most important of all, however, is that the Dell monitor has a matte coating..."
"...so at the end of the day I am quite happy, enjoying my nice IPS matte display."

Most of their bezels are matte, as well.
Nice so ips are good monitors to get right?mainly gaming on pc .
 
Most of my parts will be here tomorrow, only the motherboard seems to be stuck in limbo.

i5 2500k
16gb ram
128gb crucial m4
Sli Zotac gtx 580 3gb



The general rundown.
 
Syphon Filter said:
Nice so ips are good monitors to get right?mainly gaming on pc .
Yup. They tend to have good image quality, and color uniformity. Generally, IPS doesn't have as fast a response time as TN, though. Some people aren't affected by this at all, while it drives others crazy. Check out some U2211H reviews that comment on gaming, or media use. You can also try out "should I stick with LCD or go plasma?," which, as far as I know, has become the default display thread. I think they focus on TV primarily, but you should be able to get some monitor help there, too.
 
Will my PSU be enough for a HD6970 and a SSD upgrade? I've got a Corsair VX550.

Specs:
GA-MA770T-UD3P - Phenom II X4 955 w/ NH-U12P SE2 - HD4890 - 4GB DDR3 1333Mhz - 500GB WD black - SH-S223C - VX550 - Antec 300 - Win7
 
So I just finished building my first PC tonight (like 3 hours ago) I have:

i5 2600k 4.2 (OC) @46-47c idle w/ Cooler Master heatsink 212
MSI Motherboard with OC genie
64GB M4 SSD
GTX 580 MSI Lightning (stock 823 for now)
HAF 932 Advanced (this thing is like a damn server! but is it cool as all hell)
2x 4GB Corsair Vengance Ram
1 TB seagate

it took forever to get together but everything seems to be smooth. I would like to thank everyone that helped me by giving advice. Im getting 7.6 on my windows experience now, highest Ive ever gotten on a pc was 5.6! Thanks again guys.

Question for those with 580s,

how much can I OC the lightning? I was thinking of doing 970mhz/1940/2150 (got that from the benchmark thread) Is that too much without some sort of water cooling? Or should I be fine?
 
Domcorleone said:
Question for those with 580s,

how much can I OC the lightning? I was thinking of doing 970mhz/1940/2150 (got that from the benchmark thread) Is that too much without some sort of water cooling? Or should I be fine?

don't copy settings from other people. Every card probably clocks different. Hell they might have an air conditioning unit feeding directly in their PC , and in a benchmark thread not everyone is running stable settings

just start with 20 MHz steps until it crashes, then raise slightly volt until it's stable, then do 10 MHz steps raising volt when necessary until you've reached a voltage you're comfortable with. On air that should be 1.1~1.138 volt IMHO

stress test with something like Unigine Heaven maxed out (or BF3 beta maxed out lol)
 
meh decided to hold off, will probably make a build for the spring/summer with the 600 series and ivy bridge.

cmon core2duo and 280gtx dont fail me now (only new game im gonna play is skyrim/diablo 3, which shouldn't be tooo bad on it).

just the performances out of single cards out there now and battlefield 3 kind of disappoint me.
 
Hey guys, how's this system? Any obvious bottlenecks?

- Case: Coolermaster Elite 335U Case - Black
- Power Supply: OCZ ZS 650w PSU
- CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K 3.30GHz Sandybridge overclocked to 4.40GHz
- Motherboard: Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard ** B3 REVISION **
- Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight
- RAM: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
- Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6GB/s
- Graphics Card: GTX 570 1280MB
- Sound: Realtek 7.1 Channel Sound (On-Board)
- Optical Drive: LG DVD+/-RW SATA Drive
 
Guys after I install SSD (Crucial M4 with latest firmware)
Do I need to install any drivers for it? I installed Win7 but I get some random BSOD here and there that I didn't get earlier. So perhaps there are drivers for it that I don't know about...
 
suffah said:
I'm debating on a 560 vs 560TI. Is it worth the extra ~$50?


You always want to go better when it comes to CPU/GPU. If there are any other corners you can cut (buy a tiny bit less ram, don't go for a fancy keyboard/mouse, etc) you should always try to get the best you can when you get it.

Since they are the heart and soul of your computer, you're going to replace these two least often, so you should get the best you can at the time.

In my build from a year and a half ago I went for the 5850 instead of a lesser card and I do not regret the extra 50-70 I spent at all. It makes a difference.
 
sersteven said:
Since they are the heart and soul of your computer, you're going to replace these two least often, so you should get the best you can at the time.

Disagreed. If anything, the GPU is the best candidate for early upgrading because product refresh improvements are both more frequent and (thus far, at least) more noticeable than any other component. That means finding the best performance/price value that fits your current requirements at any given time and then doing so again sooner rather than later with the savings is the way to go. I'd much rather buy a $220 GPU now and another one in a year and a half, than buy a $450 now and use it for 3 years.

All that said, the 560 Ti is absolutely worth it over the 560, but that's mostly because the 560 is a terribly pointless product and a not very good value.
 
So got unexpected bonus and decided to upgrade my 460gtx. I was thinking of getting Asus 580 gtx DCII. Is that any good ( I have the space for it even tho it's gigantic)? Or would you recommend me some other nVidia card? (Really bad experiences with AMD cards)
 
MrOogieBoogie said:
Alright GAF, a buddy of mine wants to build a new PC. Here's his Newegg wishlist right now:

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=17207552

His budget is about $1,500. That's a very basic template of what he's looking at, but he hasn't even determined whether or not everything is compatible or what his best options are. So, GAF, pretend that you have $1,500 to spare on a new PC. What would YOUR build look like? Have fun and let's help him put together a beast.

Sorry for bringing this up again, but would really appreciate some insight here.
 
gokieks said:
Disagreed. If anything, the GPU is the best candidate for early upgrading because product refresh improvements are both more frequent and (thus far, at least) more noticeable than any other component. That means finding the best performance/price value that fits your current requirements at any given time and then doing so again sooner rather than later with the savings is the way to go. I'd much rather buy a $220 GPU now and another one in a year and a half, than buy a $450 now and use it for 3 years.

All that said, the 560 Ti is absolutely worth it over the 560, but that's mostly because the 560 is a terribly pointless product and a not very good value.

That's roughly the same philosophy I adhere to. GPU is one of the fastest changing products. New DirectX versions, faster cards, more memory, different ways of processing the data. It's also what new games take advantage of more.

I'd much rather spend $200 now and $200 in 2 years than $400 now and expect it to last 4 years. The only time I'll go above the $200 mark is when I can get a pretty even return. i.e. a 570 over a 560ti is 30% more expensive but 30% better performance. If today's games (not tomorrow's games!) can take advantage of that performance increase at the resolution I play at, then I'd do it.
 
MrOogieBoogie said:
Sorry for bringing this up again, but would really appreciate some insight here.

The GPU is both overkill and a poor choice compared to 2 GTX580s in SLI, the RAM is 1.65V instead of 1.5V, and the case is, honestly, crap.

Here's a build I actually made for a friend just yesterday... it's only a GTX570, but that's the highest GPU I would actually recommend to anyone who's not using a 2560 x 1600/1440 monitor, and the rest of the money going towards a high quality case, bigger SSD, etc. It comes out to be about $1500 if you buy components when they're on sale, you can remove the Wi-Fi adapter, media reader if they're unneeded, and also drop the RAM to 8GB to save another $40-50.
 
Going to give another shot at a sound card. Will probably get the Xonar Essence. I want a headset that has Dolby Digital and a mic on it. What are the best options for this?
 
My 506 Ti came in today. Before I install it, is there anything special I should do to uninstall all my ATI applications/drivers?
 
MrOogieBoogie said:
Sorry for bringing this up again, but would really appreciate some insight here.
Do you or your friend live near a microcenter? If so he can get gtx 580s for $100-$150 less than a 590.
 
Smokey said:
Going to give another shot at a sound card. Will probably get the Xonar Essence. I want a headset that has Dolby Digital and a mic on it. What are the best options for this?

totally unrelated, but just realized your avatar is andre johnson. fuck yea
 
reptilescorpio said:
This error comes up when I try and view a youtube webpage. What gives?
Could be a number of things. Run a virus scan lately? Are you getting any blue screens as well? If you're also seeing that, it's could easily be a hardware issue - heat, bad memory, etc.
 
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