Wolf Akela
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Nope. The difference is even smaller than different clocks which is already tiny to begin with.
"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
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I don't think my FT02 case is going to play nice with my Lightnings. The temps on my top card are much higher than the bottom. I just finished playing The Witcher 2 and the top card was at 94c, and the bottom was at 79. These cards blow air back into the case rather than exhausting out of the back like the reference cards. So I'm guessing the air is getting dumped back into my case and the fans at the bottom of the FT02 are blowing the air back into the cards (my mobo sits at a 90 degree angle). This is with a modest OC (by Lighting Extreme standards) of 910mhz.
Talk about a shitty way to start off the day :/
I don't think my FT02 case is going to play nice with my Lightnings. The temps on my top card are much higher than the bottom. I just finished playing The Witcher 2 and the top card was at 94c, and the bottom was at 79. These cards blow air back into the case rather than exhausting out of the back like the reference cards. So I'm guessing the air is getting dumped back into my case and the fans at the bottom of the FT02 are blowing the air back into the cards (my mobo sits at a 90 degree angle). This is with a modest OC (by Lighting Extreme standards) of 910mhz.
Talk about a shitty way to start off the day :/
Hero_of_the_Day
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abuC said:
Couple questions about some things I see in this picture before I put my computer together. Don't you want the PSU fan facing downward into the vents built into the case? Also, shouldn't the CPU fan be facing the other direction? The box shows the fan blowing the other way and the case fan behind it blowing air out of the case. Which is better? Thanks for clearing this up for me.
i'm fairly new to pc gaming so when shit breaks i tend to either 1) google around until i find a fix or 2) get lazy and say fuck it. but since i actually have a free day i'll ask you guys a question. i bought Rock of Ages on Steam and played for a while and was loving it. i went to play it recently and got this message "failed to find default engine .ini. forcing quit". space language. i've seen talk of .ini files over the years but i don't know where they are or how to go about fixing this. help please. also i downloaded a demo on Steam for Just Cause 2 and it just stopped working. i think the dialog says that it's not available at this time, try again later. do Steam demos expire? i'm pretty sure they don't.
Outside of CPU-bound games, not particularly. OC the 955 to at least 3.4-3.6GHz, or 3.8-4.0GHz+, if possible.GuessWho said:
You need a PWM y-splitter, like this one. It's best if the fans are the same, or similar enough, such as RPM range.RukusProvider said:
I don't recall that, actually. Too many sales to keep track of. I know they had some other ridiculous combo deal around launch.Hazaro said:
Quoting again for the last day of the sale, and anyone who may have missed it:
·feist· said:Some random Microcenter and NCIX US deals.
Remember, NCIX has free shipping on orders of $50 or more.
$150 - Intel Core i5 2500K
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589
$24 - Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0315397
$29 - Corsair A70
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=53612&vpn=CAFA70&manufacture=Corsair&promoid=1115
$250 - MSI GeForce GTX 570
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57383&vpn=N570GTX-M2D12D5&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar&promoid=1115
Wolf Akela
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$150 2500k fuuuuuuuuuck.
RukusProvider
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·feist· said:
Yeah I got the same exact one as the default fan on the 212+ I'm hoping a radio shack has one. I don't want to wait
Sleeper901
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there is this deal in a shop next to where i live
coolermaster RC430 black
super power 550W??
asus p8p67le
i5 2500
8go pc3 10666 DDR3 1333 MHZ
1 TO sata III 6gb/s
gtx 560
=699
so i know the hardrive, the memory and the PSU probably suck but the combo i5 2500 & gtx 560 seems sweet for this price
should I or shan't I?
thx
coolermaster RC430 black
super power 550W??
asus p8p67le
i5 2500
8go pc3 10666 DDR3 1333 MHZ
1 TO sata III 6gb/s
gtx 560
=699
so i know the hardrive, the memory and the PSU probably suck but the combo i5 2500 & gtx 560 seems sweet for this price
should I or shan't I?
thx
RukusProvider said:Yeah I got the same exact one as the default fan on the 212+ I'm hoping a radio shack has one. I don't want to wait
You can use a 4 pin connector to a 3 pin header just fine, but it'll just run at full speed instead of variable. If it's a decently quiet fan though, that doesn't matter much. I think I have both of my 120mm fans on the 212+ running at full speed all the time, and it's barely audible.
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gokieks said:
That's weird. When I crank up the fan on my 212+ to 100%, it's very much audible. Anything past 5 out of 10 on the speed setting seem to be highly audible. The case is HAF X sitting about 1.5ft away from me. Cranking up the case fans to 100% makes no additional noise so I know it's the 212+ fan.
Hey guys I've got an issue that might be software related but I don't know.
So while previewing pictures in windows 7, for example a screenshot from a game the colors and the general image quality looks horrendous as if it's been compressed to hell and back and had every contrast/color level messed with.
But if I upload said picture and just view it from the imagelink, the picture looks like it should, that is great. Anyone have the faintest idea what I'm talking about?
So while previewing pictures in windows 7, for example a screenshot from a game the colors and the general image quality looks horrendous as if it's been compressed to hell and back and had every contrast/color level messed with.
But if I upload said picture and just view it from the imagelink, the picture looks like it should, that is great. Anyone have the faintest idea what I'm talking about?
Reposting this deal I found on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.722615
COOLER MASTER CM-690 II Advanced
ASUS P8P67 DELUXE
ASUS ENGTX560 TI DCII/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 Ti
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W
Intel Core i5-2500K
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s
For about 880 after rebates
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.722615
COOLER MASTER CM-690 II Advanced
ASUS P8P67 DELUXE
ASUS ENGTX560 TI DCII/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 Ti
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W
Intel Core i5-2500K
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s
For about 880 after rebates
where u live?Sleeper901 said:
Here are a good PC in germany:
Core i5-2500K
Gigabyte GeForce GTX560-TI OC 1024 MB DDR5 HDCP
8GB-KIT DDR3 Corsair PC1333 CL
ASUS P8P67 R3, 1155,ATX, DDR3
be quiet! Pure Power 530W
Samsung EcoGreen F4 2000GB
Xigmatek Midgard
Scythe Katana 3
For 750, only good components, a 560 TI OC, 2TB etc.
PSU is back. Its quieter than the previous ones but im still getting some noise.
Basically it boils down to this:
- Loud whine when fps go beyond 60 (have to use vsync on a lot of games)
- Loud whine when Turbo Boost kicks in (when it goes from 3.3 to 3.4ghz)
- Whine when using a web browser and scrolling and connecting a wireless 360 pad reciever. Had to disable C3 and C6 report for these particular noises to stop, but because of that now turbo boost goes to 3.4ghz tops instead of 3.7ghz, guess that's not TOO bad.
So far its been the same with 3 different PSUs, so i could rule those out (though part of the whines do come from there), but at the same time i dont think its either the GPU or the CPU considering they both have their own sound related issues going. Guess MOBO it is. Got a replacement for this same model and the issue continues, so could it be model related? (P8P67 LE).
Any other ideas? im already living with it and getting used to it (god bless headphones) but id like to avoid it if possible. Problem is that any sort of machinery is gonna make some electrical noise no matter what, and if you reach a point where you become obsessed nothing's gonna ever please you, haha.
Basically it boils down to this:
- Loud whine when fps go beyond 60 (have to use vsync on a lot of games)
- Loud whine when Turbo Boost kicks in (when it goes from 3.3 to 3.4ghz)
- Whine when using a web browser and scrolling and connecting a wireless 360 pad reciever. Had to disable C3 and C6 report for these particular noises to stop, but because of that now turbo boost goes to 3.4ghz tops instead of 3.7ghz, guess that's not TOO bad.
So far its been the same with 3 different PSUs, so i could rule those out (though part of the whines do come from there), but at the same time i dont think its either the GPU or the CPU considering they both have their own sound related issues going. Guess MOBO it is. Got a replacement for this same model and the issue continues, so could it be model related? (P8P67 LE).
Any other ideas? im already living with it and getting used to it (god bless headphones) but id like to avoid it if possible. Problem is that any sort of machinery is gonna make some electrical noise no matter what, and if you reach a point where you become obsessed nothing's gonna ever please you, haha.
Sleeper901
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syko de4d said:
i live in France
yeah actually, it was not such a good deal and yours seems far better (even if French prices probably don't match exactly German ones)
thanks for the tip
Hazaro said:
www.tranza.com local place. But its an online store without a physical location. That's the issue.
SalsaShark said:
Yeah, I have the same problem as you, I just use d3doverrider in all games. It really used to bother me, but as you say, with the combination of headphones, its not all that bad, and most games are vsynced anyway.
I don't get the web browser whine, but I don't turbo boost either. Too hard and too much effort to find the component making the noise to bother with RMA, but I assume that mine is the GPU.
I believe I have the same specs as you, 2500k and 560ti, if it makes any difference.
XiaNaphryz
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I believe the X is essentially an upgraded 932, so I'd expect it to be at least as good.Leonsito said:
To anyone putting a system together:
I'm selling an extremely lightly used, like new Corsair TX650 v2 power supply. Currently $120 on Newegg + mail in rebates.
Posted in the Buy/Sell/Trade thread. Looking for $80 OBO.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=31433499&postcount=256
PM me.
I'm selling an extremely lightly used, like new Corsair TX650 v2 power supply. Currently $120 on Newegg + mail in rebates.
Posted in the Buy/Sell/Trade thread. Looking for $80 OBO.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=31433499&postcount=256
PM me.
I currently have a Dell UltraSharp 20.1" 2005FPW monitor... it's perhaps ~5 years old... not sure but it has been a while. Is it worthwhile to upgrade to a new monitor? Not too concerned with getting a larger one so are would I notice a difference in how the picture looks?
Specs:
Viewable Size: 20.1", Display Type: Flat Panel Display / Active Matrix TFT - Desktop
Color Support: 16.7 Million, Dimensions (WxDxH) / Weight: 18.6" x 9" x 15.3" to 22.4" / 17.64 lbs
Enclosure Color: Midnight Gray, Image Aspect Ratio: 16:10, Max Sync Rate (V x H): 75 Hz x 83 kHz
Image Brightness: 300 cd/m², Image Contrast Ratio: 600:1, Max Resolution: 1680x1050 Pixels
Port(s) Total ( Free ) / Connector Type: VGA / DVI-D / S-video / Composite / 4 x USB 2.0
Specs:
Viewable Size: 20.1", Display Type: Flat Panel Display / Active Matrix TFT - Desktop
Color Support: 16.7 Million, Dimensions (WxDxH) / Weight: 18.6" x 9" x 15.3" to 22.4" / 17.64 lbs
Enclosure Color: Midnight Gray, Image Aspect Ratio: 16:10, Max Sync Rate (V x H): 75 Hz x 83 kHz
Image Brightness: 300 cd/m², Image Contrast Ratio: 600:1, Max Resolution: 1680x1050 Pixels
Port(s) Total ( Free ) / Connector Type: VGA / DVI-D / S-video / Composite / 4 x USB 2.0
Hero_of_the_Day
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Pretty awesome news. Turns out hyper 212 won't be fitting in my case if I put my 200mm fan on the side. Awesome. Glad newegg has a 30 day return policy. Have to pay like two bucks "restocking fee". Ordered a Hyper N520 that I hope works well.
Life lesson, make sure you read all the reviews as it was mentioned in one of the reviews for my case on newegg. Didn't notice until this morning.
That is weird.
Life lesson, make sure you read all the reviews as it was mentioned in one of the reviews for my case on newegg. Didn't notice until this morning.
Corky said:
That is weird.
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Yeah you need a better airflow setup. Think you need a new case!Smokey said:
Smokey said:
did you post on overclock.net about this?
just for fun, try turning your case 90 degrees (put something under it to protect the paint) and see what happens
not only can the airflow make a difference, but the actual 90 degree orientation may limit the cooling ability of certain (not all) videocard heatpipe style coolers like those on the Lightnings
I've heard about people seeing Accelero cooled cards going 90+ degrees because the heatpipes stopped working in a FT02/RV02
VariantX04
Loser slave of the system :(
I'm looking into getting a GTX 580. Is the MSI Lightning (3GB) card worth the price of admission ($599)?
Has anyone seen this?
The EVGA GTX580 classified.
What a card even if it is overpriced.
http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=03G-P3-1588-AR&family=GeForce%20500%20Series%20Family&sw=
The EVGA GTX580 classified.
What a card even if it is overpriced.
http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=03G-P3-1588-AR&family=GeForce%20500%20Series%20Family&sw=
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Or you can sell me that case of yours for dirt cheap and use the money towards a new case.Smokey said:
VariantX04
Loser slave of the system :(
Won't the 3GB help make the card more future-proof, though?n0n44m said:
n0n44m said:
Yeah I did post this over there.
Bolded is what I'm wondering as well. So I'm getting this straight, you want me to basically put the case on it's face so that the cards will be horizontal? Cables will then be sticking straight in the air?
Ice Raven said:Or you can sell me that case of yours for dirt cheap and use the money towards a new case.
I'm glad you find pleasure in this!
VariantX04
Loser slave of the system :(
Well... But... Okay yeah, you're right. 1.5GB, it is. Thanks guys!Marco1 said:
AgentWhiskers said:
well, personally I'd say that looking at the state of consoles and their limits on most games/game engines these days I doubt 1.5GB is going to limit you any time soon
and by the time it will bottleneck performance a GTX580 will be outdated and inefficient anyway
but that's just my personal opinion
n0n44m said:well, personally I'd say that looking at the state of consoles and their limits on most games/game engines these days I doubt 1.5GB is going to limit you any time soon
and by the time it will bottleneck performance a GTX580 will be outdated and inefficient anyway
but that's just my personal opinion
1.5gb is good enough for 99% of anyone playing at 2560xXXXX at that. People are going to get limited by their gpu in general before they'll hit anything close to 1.5gb in practically any game out there.
Smokey said:
you might want to unplug something first
(I only have 3 cables going in my rig lol)again, it shouldn't change much because airflow will be largely the same
if you see small gains it could be because of airflow
if you see big gains it *might* be an issue with the 90 degree orientation itself
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personally, it's not that I don't believe the "wrong airflow" theory, but with those 180mm pushing air to the top between the cards and the ventilated slots of the 580s I would be kinda surprised if that much hot air would continue to stick around ... hell open the sidepanel and aim a table fan at the cards, see what that does to temperatures
n0n44m said:you might want to unplug something first
again, it shouldn't change much because airflow will be largely the same
if you see small gains it could be because of airflow
if you see big gains it *might* be an issue with the 90 degree orientation itself
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personally, it's not that I don't believe the "wrong airflow" theory, but with those 180mm pushing air to the top between the cards and the ventilated slots of the 580s I would be kinda surprised if that much hot air would continue to stick around ... hell open the sidepanel and aim a table fan at the cards, see what that does to temperatures
I'm thinking it's because the cards dump the air into the case, and then the 180mm fans are blowing and therefor pushing that hot air right back on the cards. I will try the open panel test first before I put my machine on it's face lol
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*wishes she had money*
Smokey said:Yeah I did post this over there.
Bolded is what I'm wondering as well. So I'm getting this straight, you want me to basically put the case on it's face so that the cards will be horizontal? Cables will then be sticking straight in the air?
I'm glad you find pleasure in this!
Turn it so that it's on it's back...the video cards should be in the same orientation they'd be if they were in a regular case. (I believe you'd need to take the cable shroud off to actually lay it like that)
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