"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]

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So, as per you guys suggestion, I bought a Datavac and, hell, this thing blows!

However, is it normal for it to leak air through the front and back ends? For comparison, check the two pictures below:


Front
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Side
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luiztfc said:
So, as per you guys suggestion, I bought a Datavac and, hell, this thing blows!

However, is it normal for it to leak air through the front and back ends? For comparison, check the two pictures below:


Mine has the same gaps but I don't feel any air coming out.
 
ok, so here's a little problem i've been having with my build from last year

i7 930, 8gb ddr3 1600, gtx 460, corsair 650w psu, gigabyte x58 mobo.

occasionally, my computer will just shut off after booting. there seems to be no pattern to this happening. more often than not it's shortly after i cold boot my computer, it will stay on for about 20 seconds, then shut off. hit the power button, everything boots fine, and will stay on indefintiely.

all of my drivers are up to date for audio, video etc, and i don't have any power saver options enabled.

as a side note, sometimes when i try to "sleep" the computer, it will go into hibernation and then immediately come back. i can keep trying to put it to sleep and it will keep coming back. the only background process running is windows defender, and closing the program doesn't solve the problem. but then there's other times it sleeps and wakes just fine.

any ideas? thanks!
 
chaosblade said:
BIOSTAR TH67B 1155 motherboard
4GB DDR3 RAM
i5 2500 CPU

Keep everything else. You'll have a great CPU that will last you for years (even without OCing it since it's locked) unlike that 8400 which is more or less a minimum-requirement-level CPU now.

PSU should be able to handle that load unless it's one of Antec's really low end ones. 4870 isn't ideal these days, but it should run most games fine even if you have to sacrifice some settings/resolution. You can upgrade that down the line when you have some money to put toward it, and maybe the PSU if necessary.



But realistically you're not going to be playing at 1080p, high settings with a $300-$350 budget coming off a PC where the only things that are really worth reusing are the case and maybe the PSU (depending on what you buy with it).

Oh wow that sucks :/ what else would I need for 1080p high settings, Lets say Im using those parts what graphics card and psu maybe (I wasn't thinking about the HDD either I should get a SSD even though I was thinking on doing some raid arrays, this is a factor for the free roam type of games).

Budget: 200-300USD more, so 600USD max total.

I figured I could be getting some money selling out w/e I'm not gonna be using anymore.
 
NIghtWolf said:
Oh wow that sucks :/ what else would I need for 1080p high settings, Lets say Im using those parts what graphics card and psu maybe (I wasn't thinking about the HDD either I should get a SSD even though I was thinking on doing some raid arrays, this is a factor for the free roam type of games).

Budget: 200-300USD more, so 600USD max total.

I figured I could be getting some money selling out w/e I'm not gonna be using anymore.
Add in a 560Ti or 6950 to what I posted above and you should be good to go, those will run you somewhere between $200-$250 USD. I think the 560Ti uses less power, so you might be able to keep using that PSU as long as it's a pretty decent 450W one. If you can post the power specs or a picture of them that would give a good idea.

Don't bother with a HDD since the prices are jacked up due to the flooding, yours is probably pretty slow but it's just not worth paying the current premium since you're on a tight budget.
 
chaosblade said:
Add in a 560Ti or 6950 to what I posted above and you should be good to go, those will run you somewhere between $200-$250 USD. I think the 560Ti uses less power, so you might be able to keep using that PSU as long as it's a pretty decent 450W one. If you can post the power specs or a picture of them that would give a good idea.

Don't bother with a HDD since the prices are jacked up due to the flooding, yours is probably pretty slow but it's just not worth paying the current premium since you're on a tight budget.

Well I may just change the psu I had to open the one I got a couple times because the fan starts making really loud noises so I had to get it oiled for it to stop. Any cheap/good quality psu would do (That CX430 v2? or u have any better?). And I will get that 560Ti card, I didn't really liked amd (based on the graphics card I'm using right now). Now with those specs I hope my machine doesn't melt along with the room, do you have any idea of an average grades that is gonna be running on load?

PD: I will make this a 1-2 month project.
 
Is there a good chance newegg.com will have video cards on discount this month (ether this Black November stuff or Black Friday or Cyber Monday?)
 
Hazaro thanks for the reply, for some reason I didn't even notice those how to videos in the OP, which is embarrassing since I read over the thing 2-3 times. Seems somewhat easy enough, might have a buddy help me a bit.
 
Trying to decide how to set up Ubuntu and Win 7.

I have:
-120GB SSD
-640GB fast HDD
-2TB slow HDD (backups/media)

I use Ubuntu for work and have about 80GB of data. Will have more coming, but I only really work on a small portion of it at once (20GB?).

Is there a way I can get both Ubuntu/Win7 on the SSD for speed, and use the 640GB drive for Win7 programs and Ubuntu data?

Or should I just give Ubuntu the whole SSD and put Win 7 on the HDD?

Thanks.
 
opticalmace said:
Trying to decide how to set up Ubuntu and Win 7.

I have:
-120GB SSD
-640GB fast HDD
-2TB slow HDD (backups/media)

I use Ubuntu for work and have about 80GB of data. Will have more coming, but I only really work on a small portion of it at once (20GB?).

Is there a way I can get both Ubuntu/Win7 on the SSD for speed, and use the 640GB drive for Win7 programs and Ubuntu data?

Or should I just give Ubuntu the whole SSD and put Win 7 on the HDD?

Thanks.

If I was using both on a consistent basis on the same machine, I would just install both to SSD (with size allocated to each depending on need, probably more for Windows), and then split the 640GB HDD into two partitions, one for Windows and one for Linux and install/put the programs/data that you don't need SSD speeds for there.
 
gokieks said:
If I was using both on a consistent basis on the same machine, I would just install both to SSD (with size allocated to each depending on need, probably more for Windows), and then split the 640GB HDD into two partitions, one for Windows and one for Linux and install/put the programs/data that you don't need SSD speeds for there.
Thanks. Would you put /home on the SSD then for Linux? And just leave the additional data on the 640GB?

Also do you know how many GB Win7 needs for boot? The rest of the SSD will go to Linux.

That's quite helpful by the way, thanks. Just need to decide on partition sizes now.
 
Seriously hope my gpu isn't dead but I haven't been able to use it all day. System boots fine when I take it out and use the built in gpu on the mobo. Going to keep trying though, wasn't planning on buying a new gpu until the 7xxx/6xx stuff comes out.
 
Hazaro said:
Xonar DG is a lower end part, but it has an onboard amp. However, it is PCI so make sure you have one of those slots available.

Easier to get a Xonar DG and something than try to get a Xonar ST or STX probably.
Or RMA, sell the card you get back and spend $30 on a Xonar DG.

I got my DX working.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet. When my NewEgg gift certificate comes to me this week, I'm going to look at my options.
 
Kinda lucked out... Microcenter didn't have a replacement in stock for my Z68 Gigabyte mobo, so I got an Asus P8Z68 V motherboard for only $5 more in exchange, which is definitely a much nicer, higher quality motherboard! Really happy about this as I trust Asus way more than Gigabyte and their Z68 boards are definitely premium grade.
 
opticalmace said:
Thanks. Would you put /home on the SSD then for Linux? And just leave the additional data on the 640GB?

Also do you know how many GB Win7 needs for boot? The rest of the SSD will go to Linux.

That's quite helpful by the way, thanks. Just need to decide on partition sizes now.

You can probably put /home on the SSD and then use symlinks to put stuff on the mechanical HDD's Linux partition.

And if you're sure you're not going to put anything on the Windows 7 partition beyond the OS, it comes in at less than 20GB (without counting the the pagefile, which may be set by default to be quite large depending on the amount of memory the system has.) I'd probably set it a little larger just to be safe, in the 30-40GB range.
 
Might pull the trigger on this

GPU MSI N560GTX-M2D1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 1GB
CPU Intel Core i5-2300 2.8GHz
Motherboard MSI P67A-G45 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX UEFI BIOS
PSU Cooler Master Elite eXtreme Power Plus RS-500-PCAR-A3-US 500 Watt
RAM PNY XLR8 4GB (2x2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 SDRAM Model MD4096KD3-1600-X8
HDD Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
Optical Drive LG DVD Burner Black Model GH24NS70
CPU Cooler Stock, Included With CPU
Thermal Compound Stock, Included With CPU
Case Antec One Hundred Black ATX Mid Tower Chassis

Got it from the nvidia guide and people have told me to take that guide with a grain of salt. Planning on dedicating this build to play battlefield on high at 60fps on multiplayer.
Anything I should change or add?
 
Are those USB wireless network thumb drive things just as effective as using a wireless network card attached to an antenna? My only option with my PC is wireless internet since my room is no where near the router in my house, but I'd like to free up a PCI slot which is currently being used by a wireless network card.
 
560 is pure money for nVidia, it is a higher clocked 460 and imo is bad value. Go 560Ti.
If you can get a 2500K instead of a 2300 you can overclock to a nice 4.2Ghz or higher on a nice voltage.
I'd get RAM from G.Skill or Corsair because of lifetime warranty and good support. It isn't any more expensive.

Note HDD prices are about doubled because of flooding and you may have to go to a place like Best Buy and buy an HDD there. Don't buy a WD Green they have issues still I think.
MisterAnderson said:
Are those USB wireless network thumb drive things just as effective as using a wireless network card attached to an antenna? My only option with my PC is wireless internet since my room is no where near the router in my house, but I'd like to free up a PCI slot which is currently being used by a wireless network card.
I think 95% of them are awful, but there are 1 or 3 good ones. I might be behind the times on this.
 
MisterAnderson said:
Are those USB wireless network thumb drive things just as effective as using a wireless network card attached to an antenna? My only option with my PC is wireless internet since my room is no where near the router in my house, but I'd like to free up a PCI slot which is currently being used by a wireless network card.
I use this works great through a couple walls, linksys ae1000
linksys-ae1000j.gif

I bought this one re certified for 20 works as good as new
 
Yay my gpu isn't dead, just have to do my stupid boot (and get to the welcome screen in win7) and then restart to get the video working :/ Still have no clue what causes it...
 
JJBro One said:
How does the 560ti compare to the 570?
It's about 10% better but costs 30% more. Get it if you game at 1920x1200+ (preferably 2560x1440 minimum) or do two monitor gaming. Outlier stuff like metro or BF3 or Crysis or The Witcher 2 still won't be able to be maxed out properly (little shaky on bf3, not 100% sure), but then again hardly anything will.
 
HP_Wuvcraft said:
I got my DX working.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet. When my NewEgg gift certificate comes to me this week, I'm going to look at my options.

I stand corrected.

After it started working, my new computer started crashing every hour.

So I uninstalled the drivers.

Computer is fine.
 
Hazaro, whenever I have had a question you always make sure to answer.
And it's not just me you help.

I don't know what your occupation is, or what your life is like, but just letting you know from the point of view of a stranger on the internet I think you are a remarkable individual.

The world would be a better place if more people were like you.
 
Sorry I don't know where else to put this.

I'm trying to play Modern Warfare 2 but I'm getting really crappy framerates, drops to 30 outside even with No AA and Shadows Off. It dropped to 26 when I went through some smoke.

I've looked at benchmarks for my card and they all say around 100fps avg.

Don't know what is causing the bad fps.

Specs:
AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4ghz
GTX 460 1GB OC 825Mhz
4GB RAM
 
CrocMother said:
Hazaro, whenever I have had a question you always make sure to answer.
And it's not just me you help.

I don't know what your occupation is, or what your life is like, but just letting you know from the point of view of a stranger on the internet I think you are a remarkable individual.

The world would be a better place if more people were like you.
Yep. Hazaro is a great poster.

MisterAnderson said:
Are those USB wireless network thumb drive things just as effective as using a wireless network card attached to an antenna? My only option with my PC is wireless internet since my room is no where near the router in my house, but I'd like to free up a PCI slot which is currently being used by a wireless network card.

Internal PCI (express) wireless > USB sticks as those sticks overheat easily.

Tambini said:
Sorry I don't know where else to put this.

I'm trying to play Modern Warfare 2 but I'm getting really crappy framerates, drops to 30 outside even with No AA and Shadows Off. It dropped to 26 when I went through some smoke.

I've looked at benchmarks for my card and they all say around 100fps avg.

Don't know what is causing the bad fps.

Specs:
AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4ghz
GTX 460 1GB OC 825Mhz
4GB RAM
What driver stack are you using?
 
I am thinking of finally selling off my old built PC and buying a new one.

Thinking of buying:
2500k i7
GTX460 Ti
12GB of G.Skills
1TB HDD
80gb or less SSD
Cd/dvd drive


What PSU should I go for? A 650watt corsair? I already got a monitor, keyboard and mouse.

Also, any other recommendations?
 
Ive not used nvidia in ages. Whats a good tweaking program for games with their cards? Also what drivers should i be using? im running a 560TI.
 
Hey guys great thread, although as a computer noob some of this information is tough to take in. Living in Vancouver B.C, what business would you guys recommend in the area for the job as far as pricing?

I'm basically going to have them assemble it and help me decide what I need in my Rig, so if any of you could suggest a store you had good service and prices from it would be greatly appreciated.
 
Guys, I'm planning to upgrade my rig this fall. Two basic questions:

1) which are the best LGA 1155 motherboards available right now?
2) Is it worth to pay a higher price for an i7 2600K instead of an i5 2500K?
 
Warning, long post ahead, but if someone could read this and help me troubleshoot the problem, I'd be eternally grateful. Feel free to skip the history, since it only adds context. I'll describe the current (and similar) problem below.

Here's my specs
Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz
Asus P8Z68-V PRO Z68
Asus GTX 560 Ti DirectCU II 1GB Factory OC'd to 830mhz
Samsung HD204UI Spinpoint F4
Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz Vengeance Memory Kit CL9 1.5V
Antec TruePower Trio 650W PSU

Bit of history
I had a game crashing problem a couple of weeks ago:

Dead Rising 2: Crash between 10 seconds and an hour.
Deus Ex HR: Crash within 20 minutes most of the time, sometimes would go for an hour or so.
Civilization V: Once lasted me two hours, but every other time crashed within an hour.
Mafia II: Game lasted about 40 minutes, and regularly crashed on the in-game benchmark.
The Witcher 2: Crashed to launcher without error within 20 minutes.
3DMark11: Wouldn't even finish the demo + benchmark.
Heaven 2.5: Crashed within 25 minutes.

After running lots of tests I found through Prime95 that my CPU and/or motherboard was faulty. I returned them to eBuyer, who found both were faulty, so I got a replacement. Now when I run Prime95, I don't get any errors, so I think my CPU+motherboard are good.

The current problem
However, I'm still getting game crashes to desktop like in the old config, suggesting something else was (as well as the CPU & mobo) causing the problem.

It's seemingly random, and can happen within seconds or even a couple of hours.

Though so far no benchmarking software like Heaven 2.5, Furmark or 3DMark11 has failed on this build. I ran Furmark for about 30-40 minutes, and Heaven was for an hour.

On the new build, I've only tested out Deus Ex HR and Sonic Generations. Both crash to desktop, and the cause is often ntoskrnl.exe + a nVidia DLL of some sort.

I also had two BSODs, one whilst updating Steam, and another whilst verifying the gamecache on Sonic Generations, just to be sure that wasn't it.

I'm not sure what the first BSOD was, since I don't have the logs at hand, but the second one was: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

I looked this up, and this is what I got:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc957625.aspx said:
This Stop message usually occurs after the installation of faulty hardware or in the event of failure of installed hardware (usually related to defective RAM, either main memory, L2 RAM cache, or video RAM).

It also mentions that it could be "buggy system service" (but this is a fresh Windows 7 install, so I'm not so sure...) or antivirus (not installed yet, since I've been testing the machine for faults), or a corrupted NTFS system volume (however, I ran CHKDSK a few weeks ago when I first had problems to rule out HDD issues, and that came back all clear).

I'm ruling out the following as causing the problem:
CPU (passed Prime95 + it's a replacement for a previously faulty one)
Motherboard (replacement for previously faulty -- unless they're widespread, I doubt this is the issue)

Both are brand new replacements from two faulty parts. The chances of me getting faulty parts again is slim, plus the CPU passed Prime95.

I'm unsure about:
PSU

I'm unsure about the PSU, as I'm using an Antec TruePower Trio 650W PSU in this config, but in the last one I was using a HiperM1000 1000W PSU. That one worked fine in my older PC, but since I sold it on I don't have access to that PSU anymore.

From past experience, the Antec PSU is good, and I have no reason to believe it's faulty (the only reason I replaced it is because my Radeon 4870X2 in my previous machine required more juice than my 650W PSU gave), but it's been dormant for just over two years.

Either way, with both PSUs I'm getting the same crashes, so until I've ruled out everything else I'm inclined to believe it's not the cause.

I'm pretty sure it's either:
GPU
HDD (passed CHKDSK)
RAM (passed memtest86)

I suspect it could be the HDD because the BSOD is related to the pagefile, but CHKDSK came out clear.

I'm always paranoid that I haven't run enough passes on memtest86, but it's probably just paranoia. I've run it three times, once with 3 passes, once with 7 passes, and last night with 5 passes. It's never reported any problems, however.

The GPU is my prime suspect right now. I'm tempted to just RMA it and, if it's not faulty, swallow the £10 return fee.

Games + benchmarks crashing in the previous build, and games crashing in this one (I may have been lucky in the benchmarks thusfar -- after all, it can go for up to 2 hours before a crash) lead me to that conclusion, but I have a nagging doubt about it.

The BSOD info on MS Technet does say it could be video RAM, but I've had no visual symptoms of faulty graphics RAM except some black triangular artifacts in The Witcher 2 (which I suspect is down to the game itself, since no other game has issues), just random crashes to desktop.

It could also be a bad factory OC, but Furmark has never crashed on me before.

Any advice, PC GAF? Are there more tests I can run on my system, or should I just RMA the graphics card and hope that's the end of it?
 
Omikaru said:
Warning, long post ahead, but if someone could read this and help me troubleshoot the problem, I'd be eternally grateful. Feel free to skip the history, since it only adds context. I'll describe the current (and similar) problem below.

Here's my specs
Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz
Asus P8Z68-V PRO Z68
Asus GTX 560 Ti DirectCU II 1GB Factory OC'd to 830mhz
Samsung HD204UI Spinpoint F4
Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz Vengeance Memory Kit CL9 1.5V
Antec TruePower Trio 650W PSU

Bit of history
I had a game crashing problem a couple of weeks ago:

Dead Rising 2: Crash between 10 seconds and an hour.
Deus Ex HR: Crash within 20 minutes most of the time, sometimes would go for an hour or so.
Civilization V: Once lasted me two hours, but every other time crashed within an hour.
Mafia II: Game lasted about 40 minutes, and regularly crashed on the in-game benchmark.
The Witcher 2: Crashed to launcher without error within 20 minutes.
3DMark11: Wouldn't even finish the demo + benchmark.
Heaven 2.5: Crashed within 25 minutes.

After running lots of tests I found through Prime95 that my CPU and/or motherboard was faulty. I returned them to eBuyer, who found both were faulty, so I got a replacement. Now when I run Prime95, I don't get any errors, so I think my CPU+motherboard are good.

The current problem
However, I'm still getting game crashes to desktop like in the old config, suggesting something else was (as well as the CPU & mobo) causing the problem.

It's seemingly random, and can happen within seconds or even a couple of hours.

Though so far no benchmarking software like Heaven 2.5, Furmark or 3DMark11 has failed on this build. I ran Furmark for about 30-40 minutes, and Heaven was for an hour.

On the new build, I've only tested out Deus Ex HR and Sonic Generations. Both crash to desktop, and the cause is often ntoskrnl.exe + a nVidia DLL of some sort.

I also had two BSODs, one whilst updating Steam, and another whilst verifying the gamecache on Sonic Generations, just to be sure that wasn't it.

I'm not sure what the first BSOD was, since I don't have the logs at hand, but the second one was: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

I looked this up, and this is what I got:


It also mentions that it could be "buggy system service" (but this is a fresh Windows 7 install, so I'm not so sure...) or antivirus (not installed yet, since I've been testing the machine for faults), or a corrupted NTFS system volume (however, I ran CHKDSK a few weeks ago when I first had problems to rule out HDD issues, and that came back all clear).

I'm ruling out the following as causing the problem:
CPU (passed Prime95 + it's a replacement for a previously faulty one)
Motherboard (replacement for previously faulty -- unless they're widespread, I doubt this is the issue)

Both are brand new replacements from two faulty parts. The chances of me getting faulty parts again is slim, plus the CPU passed Prime95.

I'm unsure about:
PSU

I'm unsure about the PSU, as I'm using an Antec TruePower Trio 650W PSU in this config, but in the last one I was using a HiperM1000 1000W PSU. That one worked fine in my older PC, but since I sold it on I don't have access to that PSU anymore.

From past experience, the Antec PSU is good, and I have no reason to believe it's faulty (the only reason I replaced it is because my Radeon 4870X2 in my previous machine required more juice than my 650W PSU gave), but it's been dormant for just over two years.

Either way, with both PSUs I'm getting the same crashes, so until I've ruled out everything else I'm inclined to believe it's not the cause.

I'm pretty sure it's either:
GPU
HDD (passed CHKDSK)
RAM (passed memtest86)

I suspect it could be the HDD because the BSOD is related to the pagefile, but CHKDSK came out clear.

I'm always paranoid that I haven't run enough passes on memtest86, but it's probably just paranoia. I've run it three times, once with 3 passes, once with 7 passes, and last night with 5 passes. It's never reported any problems, however.

The GPU is my prime suspect right now. I'm tempted to just RMA it and, if it's not faulty, swallow the £10 return fee.

Games + benchmarks crashing in the previous build, and games crashing in this one (I may have been lucky in the benchmarks thusfar -- after all, it can go for up to 2 hours before a crash) lead me to that conclusion, but I have a nagging doubt about it.

The BSOD info on MS Technet does say it could be video RAM, but I've had no visual symptoms of faulty graphics RAM except some black triangular artifacts in The Witcher 2 (which I suspect is down to the game itself, since no other game has issues), just random crashes to desktop.

It could also be a bad factory OC, but Furmark has never crashed on me before.

Any advice, PC GAF? Are there more tests I can run on my system, or should I just RMA the graphics card and hope that's the end of it?


You have a Z68 MB so take the video car out and try the onboard video only. If there are no crashes, you know it's the card. In that case, try running the card at normal stock speed. If it's not, could be the HDD.
 
knitoe said:
You have a Z68 MB so take the video car out and try the onboard video only. If there are no crashes, you know it's the card. In that case, try running the card at normal stock speed. If it's not, could be the HDD.
Wait, I have onboard graphics on the motherboard?

*looks more closely at the back to find a DVI and HDMI socket*

I did not know this.

Thanks for the advice. I'll try this now!
 
Well going to build my first PC soon and ordering the parts on Friday so here it goes! Just want to make sure I don't screw things up since I'm new to this and get a good deal for my money.

Basic Desktop Questions:
Your Current Specs: Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I32100 / G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBSR / ASUS P8Z68-V LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard / EVGA 01G-P3-1370-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (Pretty much a frankenstein of the $600 and $1000 builds in the OP.)
Budget: Around $700
Main Use: Light Gaming, Gaming, Emulation (PS2/Wii), general usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback)
Monitor Resolution: 1080p no plans to upgrade
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Last Remnant, Assassin's Creed II, and most things at least decently. (going in pretty blind to what I'll play atm.)
Are reusing any parts?: Nope, only have a laptop ATM.
When will you build?: Going to order the parts on Friday but I'm not in a rush or anything.
Will you be overclocking?: Maybe but it kinda scares me that I'd mess something up.
 
Here is my dilema. I have an HD radeon 6850 and the fan has stopped working. The thing is, the fan was loud and almost unbearable. Now that the fan has seemingly went bad the card is still working like normal. My temps are pretty much the same and I have not had any issues with the card. Tiger is willing to give me another card but I dont feel like sending this one in and waiting for another one. Are there any serious risks for keeping this card even though the fan isn't working? Its obviously getting cooling from somewhere because it hasn't shown any problems since the fan went bad.
 
bigace33 said:
Here is my dilema. I have an HD radeon 6850 and the fan has stopped working. The thing is, the fan was loud and almost unbearable. Now that the fan has seemingly went bad the card is still working like normal. My temps are pretty much the same and I have not had any issues with the card. Tiger is willing to give me another card but I dont feel like sending this one in and waiting for another one. Are there any serious risks for keeping this card even though the fan isn't working? Its obviously getting cooling from somewhere because it hasn't shown any problems since the fan went bad.
Why not use an aftermarket fan/heatsink?
 
InfiniteNine said:
Well going to build my first PC soon and ordering the parts on Friday so here it goes! Just want to make sure I don't screw things up since I'm new to this and get a good deal for my money.

Basic Desktop Questions:
Your Current Specs:
Intel Core i3-2100
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1333
ASUS P8Z68-V
EVGA 01G-P3-1370-TR GeForce GTX 460 1GB
Budget: Around $700
Main Use: Light Gaming, Gaming, Emulation (PS2/Wii), general usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback)
Monitor Resolution: 1080p no plans to upgrade
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Last Remnant, Assassin's Creed II, and most things at least decently. (going in pretty blind to what I'll play atm.)
Are reusing any parts?: Nope, only have a laptop ATM.
When will you build?: Going to order the parts on Friday but I'm not in a rush or anything.
Will you be overclocking?: Maybe but it kinda scares me that I'd mess something up.
i3 2100 for emulation is kind of iffy, will work well for a lot of games but there are quite a few that require some pretty heavy overclocking to run at full speed. Since the 2100 can't be overclocked you might find yourself stuck being unable to emulate a number of games, especially Wii/GCN ones.

Just depends on how much emulation matters to you and what specific games you want to run. A good emu build for Wii games will require a $200 2500k CPU. PS2 games are easier to emulate I think, so you should be okay with most of those.

Parts are fine though, compatibility wise. Need a case and PSU, and I guess a DVD drive is pretty optional these days. Not sure what to suggest regarding a hard drive since prices are sky high at the moment due to the flooding.
 
mug said:
Why not use an aftermarket fan/heatsink?
Ah, now you have kind of answered my question. The card will not go defective even though the built in fan does not work? My case is really small though. I barely got this card in there. I have one of those HP mid sized cases so I dont even know where I would put another fan at. I'm very ignorant when it comes to this type of thing.
 
chaosblade said:
i3 2100 for emulation is kind of iffy, will work well for a lot of games but there are quite a few that require some pretty heavy overclocking to run at full speed. Since the 2100 can't be overclocked you might find yourself stuck being unable to emulate a number of games, especially Wii/GCN ones.

Just depends on how much emulation matters to you and what specific games you want to run. A good emu build for Wii games will require a $200 2500k CPU. PS2 games are easier to emulate I think, so you should be okay with most of those.
Not terribly imporant but I'd be willing to upgrade to the Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K from the $1000 build. The price of this all adding up is just scaring me mostly.

Parts are fine though, compatibility wise. Need a case and PSU, and I guess a DVD drive is pretty optional these days. Not sure what to suggest regarding a hard drive since prices are sky high at the moment due to the flooding.
Yeah I have those picked out already I just put in the information for the things listed on that form.

-NZXT Source 210 Elite Black Steel with painted interior ATX Mid Tower Computer Case w/ Black Front Trim
-CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
-ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
-SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
 
Piercedveil said:
Can SLI be used on a CrossfireX motherboard? I'm so lost when it comes to mobos.
It can be used only if it's supported. The 2nd slot has to be running at 8x speed. Crossfire can work with a 4x slot being used.
 
So PC GAF, I have a question. Recently I've been experiencing a problem with my mouse cursor, it for some reason becomes HUGE, as if it's enlarged and is only fixable with a Bios update.

However, I'm not sure if this windows bios update utility is telling me to download the correct version.

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Image says to select the correct model name, but my motherboard is a revision of the P55 Model, will I be ok or am I forever cursed with this huge cursor!?
 
Piercedveil said:
Can SLI be used on a CrossfireX motherboard? I'm so lost when it comes to mobos.
Yes. If the MB, the board has been licensed for SLI. For example, Asus P8P67 can't, but P8P67 Pro can.
 
bigace33 said:
Ah, now you have kind of answered my question. The card will not go defective even though the built in fan does not work? My case is really small though. I barely got this card in there. I have one of those HP mid sized cases so I dont even know where I would put another fan at. I'm very ignorant when it comes to this type of thing.
Depending on how much you want to mutilate it you can take off the plastic shroud part so the heatsink is exposed and point a 80mm fan on it or something...

I'd point a 80mm at it right now and RMA it when you have the chance.
 
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