"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
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whatsinaname
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I've almost decided to upgrade from my E8400 (I am noticing that it is holding back my 6950 2GB in some games). Any ideas when Ivy Bridge is launching and whether I will regret not waiting for it? Are there any motherboards out now that will support the IB processors?
Kermit The Frog
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So what would be better a GTX 460 OC or a HD 6850 OC if they were OC to the max, the 460 is slightly cheaper and has the usual nvidia benefits but I've heard the 6850 is a bit better. Also, would it be worth considering a used GTX 470 instead of either of those two?
yeah, i think its the pci itself because i already tried my old driver.
hopefully my pci is not broken because if it i need to upgrade mobo + cpu now.
btw, ivy bridge will be compatible with p67 right ?
Ivy Bridge is currently expected to launch in Q2 of 2012. It's up to you if you want to wait. It is not definite that Ivy Bridge will support the chipsets that uses Cougar Point(H67, P67, Z68). It will either require a BIOS update or it might not work at all. It will still utilize the 1155 socket though.
QueenOfThorns
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Sorry if I'm completely messing up the format. I'm completely new to PC stuff except for TF2 every now and then.
Budget: My budget is around $1200, maybe a bit more.
Main Use: Gaming. A lot of Dolphin emulation.
Monitor Resolution: I'll have it hooked up to my "42 plasma most of the time, so I guess it'd be 1920x1080?
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: On Dolphin, Skyward Sword, Mario Galaxy/2, etc. As for PC games: Skyrim, Bioshock Infinite.
Are reusing any parts?: Nope
I don't really have time or space to build a PC, so I was thinking about customizing one on Ava Direct. Does anyone have any good/bad experiences with them? Anyway, here's what it looks like so far.
I'm going off this page: http://www.avadirect.com/gaming-pc-configurator.asp?PRID=19571
Processor: Core i5 2500X, with the Cooler Master hyper 212 CPU cooler. I've also selected the Extreme overclocking thing they offer. (Is that something I can do myself, or do I need to select it here?)
Motherboard: Asus P8P67 Deluxe
Ram: Corsair 8GB
Video Card: Asus, ENGTX560 Geforce GTX 560 Ti 1GB
Sound card: Do I need one? I have some pretty decent speakers, so I'd want to use them but from what I've read you can do that with the default soundcards they have.
Hard Drive: 1TB Segate 7200RPM
Case: Corsair, Carbide 400R
Power Supply: Cooler Master Silent Pro M 850W
It's a bit over budget ($1611.89), and it seems to be overkill. What do you think? Is there anything I should choose differently? Thanks!
Budget: My budget is around $1200, maybe a bit more.
Main Use: Gaming. A lot of Dolphin emulation.
Monitor Resolution: I'll have it hooked up to my "42 plasma most of the time, so I guess it'd be 1920x1080?
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: On Dolphin, Skyward Sword, Mario Galaxy/2, etc. As for PC games: Skyrim, Bioshock Infinite.
Are reusing any parts?: Nope
I don't really have time or space to build a PC, so I was thinking about customizing one on Ava Direct. Does anyone have any good/bad experiences with them? Anyway, here's what it looks like so far.
I'm going off this page: http://www.avadirect.com/gaming-pc-configurator.asp?PRID=19571
Processor: Core i5 2500X, with the Cooler Master hyper 212 CPU cooler. I've also selected the Extreme overclocking thing they offer. (Is that something I can do myself, or do I need to select it here?)
Motherboard: Asus P8P67 Deluxe
Ram: Corsair 8GB
Video Card: Asus, ENGTX560 Geforce GTX 560 Ti 1GB
Sound card: Do I need one? I have some pretty decent speakers, so I'd want to use them but from what I've read you can do that with the default soundcards they have.
Hard Drive: 1TB Segate 7200RPM
Case: Corsair, Carbide 400R
Power Supply: Cooler Master Silent Pro M 850W
It's a bit over budget ($1611.89), and it seems to be overkill. What do you think? Is there anything I should choose differently? Thanks!
I would go with the build from the OP -> http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=17279285
it has better parts plus cheaper.
Hi Gaf, need help again.
So i finished building my PC yesterday, so far so good.. I have a 560ti GPU and i downloaded the Amnesia demo yesterday and so far that's the only game i've played, it ran fine on high settings. Now, i've just downloaded and installed LOTRO and with attempting to start the game i get the message
'Game Error [122] : No suitable graphics device was found. Are you running through a remote session or a VM? If not, please check your video hardware capabilities. [122]'
Anybody know what this could be, perhaps i have to download Direct X which i havn't done yet?
So i finished building my PC yesterday, so far so good.. I have a 560ti GPU and i downloaded the Amnesia demo yesterday and so far that's the only game i've played, it ran fine on high settings. Now, i've just downloaded and installed LOTRO and with attempting to start the game i get the message
'Game Error [122] : No suitable graphics device was found. Are you running through a remote session or a VM? If not, please check your video hardware capabilities. [122]'
Anybody know what this could be, perhaps i have to download Direct X which i havn't done yet?
did you use drivers from cd or website? if cd, get drivers from website.
Check with dxdiag if you hardware accel is on full etc,
I'm kind new to computers so, what should i be looking for in dxdiag? It says my latest drivers are Direct X 11, my device is 560ti and in notes it says 'no problems found'. And i got the latest drivers from the NVIDIA website.
Also, did you use the beta or the WHQL drivers from Nividia? what you can try is to do a clean gpu driver reinstall with both drivers (try both the new beta and whql drivers)
Is 4 hours of your time worth $400 in savings? I highly recommend building your own.
Just go with the 1k build in the OP and get a $120 monitor, look at the 20 minute assembly video.
I can't speak for AVA, but I am pretty sure FNW and Maingear are very good, but obviously expensive. All you need is a 2500K and a 560Ti at the core.
*Maingear looks to have a decent config. Second option is barely any faster, but has overclocking potential... I'm not sure if the 2500 is the 2500K in the 1st build. Should probably ask them.
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Also, did you use the beta or the WHQL drivers from Nividia? what you can try is to do a clean gpu driver reinstall with both drivers (try both the new beta and whql drivers)
Ah. DirectDraw Acceleration and AGP Texture Acceleration say: Not available. Direct 3D is enabled.. what should i do?
Thats your problem, like i said try reinstalling drivers first (try both beta and whql check wich works) you can check "perform a clean install" when you press "custom install" in the nvidia drivers.
Thanks. Downloading the latest beta drivers now.
If anyone could kindly give me their impressions on the problem i am having, i would greatly appreciate it...
Basically, 70% of the time i do a cold boot(i.e. the computer is completely off) it seems as if my computer hangs on "starting windows". I know this because the windows image does not pop up and it can stay on "starting windows" for a good 30 seconds before it "un"-hangs itself and starts like normal.
I really do not understand what would be causing this. Before this issue occurred, my computer would never hang on "starting windows" and a cold boot would take 20 seconds, now it can take up to a minute.
My specs are the following:
- Gigabyte P67-UD4-B3
- Core i5 2500k OC
- 8 RAM 1600
- Intel 320 series 120 GB(Had the 8mb bug 2 months ago)
- GTX 570
Basically, 70% of the time i do a cold boot(i.e. the computer is completely off) it seems as if my computer hangs on "starting windows". I know this because the windows image does not pop up and it can stay on "starting windows" for a good 30 seconds before it "un"-hangs itself and starts like normal.
I really do not understand what would be causing this. Before this issue occurred, my computer would never hang on "starting windows" and a cold boot would take 20 seconds, now it can take up to a minute.
My specs are the following:
- Gigabyte P67-UD4-B3
- Core i5 2500k OC
- 8 RAM 1600
- Intel 320 series 120 GB(Had the 8mb bug 2 months ago)
- GTX 570
Somewhere vaguely i remember that de UD4 and UD5 sometimes had cold boot problems, i think you only have few options.
- Remove all unnecesary hardware, try booting a couple of times see if it remains (also run a memtest etc) then add components and see if it suddenly fails.
- Update your bios firmware
- I also had this problem in the past, and the only thing that worked for me unfortunatly was swapping the motherboard for another.
dacuk
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Hi, GAF.
Now that HDD prices are insane, due to the Thailand floods, what do you recommend (I need to build a new PC)?
1- Waiting for the prices to come down (possibly in next June)?
2- Getting an SSD instead
3- A little farfetched, but I see that the external drives prices are not that outrageous yet, so getting an external HDD and then strip it of the enclosure?
I plan to get a medium-tier gaming PC (some GAFers have provided me good advice about CPU's and Video Cards), but storage is somewhat worrying for me now due to the HDD prices.
Now that HDD prices are insane, due to the Thailand floods, what do you recommend (I need to build a new PC)?
1- Waiting for the prices to come down (possibly in next June)?
2- Getting an SSD instead
3- A little farfetched, but I see that the external drives prices are not that outrageous yet, so getting an external HDD and then strip it of the enclosure?
I plan to get a medium-tier gaming PC (some GAFers have provided me good advice about CPU's and Video Cards), but storage is somewhat worrying for me now due to the HDD prices.
Sure can, i have a ssd for my OS, and a 1tb hdd drive for my games and downloads.
do games benefit at all with SSD's or is it mainly best for O/S loading?
Two brief questions:
The time it takes for my PC to POST seems to be inconsistent. I swear sometimes it takes about 5 seconds, and other times up to 20. Is this normal?
Secondly, I updated to nVidia's beta 285.79 drivers (ASUS 1GB GTX 560 Ti), and I've started getting occasional driver crashes while using Chrome. I assume this is a beta driver issue, right? It also happened when I was using the previous beta drivers, but not when I was using the main release.
The time it takes for my PC to POST seems to be inconsistent. I swear sometimes it takes about 5 seconds, and other times up to 20. Is this normal?
Secondly, I updated to nVidia's beta 285.79 drivers (ASUS 1GB GTX 560 Ti), and I've started getting occasional driver crashes while using Chrome. I assume this is a beta driver issue, right? It also happened when I was using the previous beta drivers, but not when I was using the main release.
Big Baybee
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Don't know if I want to buy this ram now or wait to see if there are better deals on BF or CM.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345
Well, it differs a bit. Also benchmarks have a hard time giving hard evidence. games that utilize hd streaming a lot (like mmo's) benefit from SSD's, but this it nothing more then loading times really.
SSD's in general dont give X more fps or something, if you get a newer 7200 rpm hd that should be enough.
For OS's its great tough, feels supper snappy and fast.
QueenOfThorns
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Mr Nightman
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Well have been sad the past few weeks since my logitech g51 speakers front channels crapped out, so moved back to my x-530 set with half the power and lack of control pod (Im in a wheelchair soo can't have the speakers nicely spaced or else I cannot reach the damn knob on the speaker). Well last night I figured out my issue, the damn front speakers were in the wrong jacks lol. Thats the only bad part of not being able to hook this stuff up myself haha, such a little mixup made me believe my g51's had died
My computer's still making crazy annoying noises: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yns-WUUjIXA
They're a lot louder than the video implies, and I'm worried it's a part that's about to go wrong? I've tried stopping each fan, and it's not that... it's unfortunately a Dell Vostro with an Antec PSU, 8GB RAM, second hand 5750 graphics card and 3 hard drives (one of which is kinda screwed into a media slot, not where it should be, but I've checked and it's not vibrations from that)
Any suggestions on what it could be, or things to check? I'm tempted by an entire new PC but damn that's going to be expensive, and hopefully necessary. Thanks!
They're a lot louder than the video implies, and I'm worried it's a part that's about to go wrong? I've tried stopping each fan, and it's not that... it's unfortunately a Dell Vostro with an Antec PSU, 8GB RAM, second hand 5750 graphics card and 3 hard drives (one of which is kinda screwed into a media slot, not where it should be, but I've checked and it's not vibrations from that)
Any suggestions on what it could be, or things to check? I'm tempted by an entire new PC but damn that's going to be expensive, and hopefully necessary. Thanks!
Got most of my rig lined up and ready to go, but I'm hoping to get a little insight on something that's keeping me from pulling the trigger.
I'm sure it's a little speculative at this point, but is there any solid indication of when new GPUs are going to be hitting shelves? This whole "build a PC" thing only comes around once every five years or so for me (granted I can swap GPUs, but I wouldn't want to do that for a couple years), and I'd hate to buy in to an outdated card mere weeks after I piece mine together.
I know it's the nature of beast, but specifically with the GPU, should I just hold out or would today's cards be worth buying into for someone interested in building new now.
For what it's worth, I've got my Newegg shopping cart PC set up with a gtx 580.
Thanks for any tips.
I'm sure it's a little speculative at this point, but is there any solid indication of when new GPUs are going to be hitting shelves? This whole "build a PC" thing only comes around once every five years or so for me (granted I can swap GPUs, but I wouldn't want to do that for a couple years), and I'd hate to buy in to an outdated card mere weeks after I piece mine together.
I know it's the nature of beast, but specifically with the GPU, should I just hold out or would today's cards be worth buying into for someone interested in building new now.
For what it's worth, I've got my Newegg shopping cart PC set up with a gtx 580.
Thanks for any tips.
Wolf Akela
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GAF, is there a way to set up my own "personal OnLive"?
My gaming PC is upstairs but our HDTV is downstairs. I do not want to move either of them, but I have a laptop I can carry around.
The idea I had is that my gaming PC will do the processing. My laptop will stream the display from my desktop and can also send instructions to it (like pressing keys or moving mouse). I'll then plug my laptop to my HDTV via HDMI then enjoy playing my PC games wirelessly.
I'm looking for some software that's a bit like TightVNC, but better suited for activity I have in mind.
My gaming PC is upstairs but our HDTV is downstairs. I do not want to move either of them, but I have a laptop I can carry around.
The idea I had is that my gaming PC will do the processing. My laptop will stream the display from my desktop and can also send instructions to it (like pressing keys or moving mouse). I'll then plug my laptop to my HDTV via HDMI then enjoy playing my PC games wirelessly.
I'm looking for some software that's a bit like TightVNC, but better suited for activity I have in mind.
BoobPhysics101
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HDMI cables run through the ceiling/walls and wireless mouse/kb. :/ Not exactly ideal but i'm not sure if the input lag with such a solution (which may exist, not sure) would be ideal either.
Do NOT buy a GTX 580. Anyone buying one right now is a fool, no offense. It's already got lackluster performance/$ ratio and you're really going to hate yourself when new cards come out in the next 2 (3 at most) months that cost less/same and have 1.5x-2x performance, more VRAM, run cooler, and use less power. I would highly suggest either waiting, or buying a lower end card like a Radeon 6850/GTX 460 if you gotta have it now, and then sell those once the new card comes out. You'll only lose $30-50 in depreciation vs $200-250 with a GTX 580 which will lose 50%+ of its value once the new-gen cards are close to release.
Wolf Akela
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A long cable isn't really an option either. Because of the layout of our house, I'd need an abnormally long one to reach my HDTV downstairs. Either that or I punch a hole on the floor (not an option either).
BoobPhysics101
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This may sound stupid, but why not move your PC closer to the HDTV and save yourself the hassle of inconvenient workarounds? Other than that, maybe there is a 'remote control' program that can satisfy your needs. Someone in this thread might know, sorry that I couldn't be more help. :/
It's a bit uncertain, but there should be new GPUs on a new process by March 2012.
I was kind of thinking that, which is ultimately why I've yet to order anything despite having my cart lined up for a week or two.
I hate to do it yet again, but I think I'm going to hold off on the hold thing until the new cards, rather than build knowing I'm skimping out on the card until something better comes along.
Ultimately I want a rig capable of blazing GW2, TOR and other MMOs I might play in the future, but using Rift as a casual reference, I'm sure my current PC can run them well enough to hold me over. My good old 8800GTS has done me well enough so far, haha.
I bought bf3 today and I'm having trouble connecting to an online game. Is there a fix for this? I'd also like to note that every time I try to join, I get a message saying I should upgrade my drivers. I have a 560 ti, but I'm forced to use 275.33 because the newer versions gimme BSOD and video driver fail/successfully recovered messages.
Big Papa Husker
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I am finally getting around to selling my old Core 2 hardware and was wondering if anyone has sold ram on ebay. I just sold my old OCZ Platinum ram and I have put the chips back the original plastic clamshell box (picture of similar clamshell below). Anyway, how should I package them? Would a bubble mailer work or should I use a box? Would it be a good idea to put the plastic clamshell case into an anti-static bag just in case?
anyone?
eBaying OCZ RAM? I'd put that in a small box with whatever padding you have. No need for anti-static.I am finally getting around to selling my old Core 2 hardware and was wondering if anyone has sold ram on ebay. I just sold my old OCZ Platinum ram and I have put the chips back the original plastic clamshell box (picture of similar clamshell below). Anyway, how should I package them? Would a bubble mailer work or should I use a box? Would it be a good idea to put the plastic clamshell case into an anti-static bag just in case?
I don't think there is a legitimate way to download a Windows XP .iso (say from Microsoft)
Plenty of ways to do it though.
Big Papa Husker
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What else would I do with it? I don't have a LGA 775 mobo anymore.
What else would I do with it? I don't have a LGA 775 mobo anymore.
If those are DDR3 ram, you can use them in your new MB.
I work in a distribution center and stick clamshelled ram in a cardboard box with dunnage. I haven't worked the bubble mailer line so I don't know if any comes down that line.I am finally getting around to selling my old Core 2 hardware and was wondering if anyone has sold ram on ebay. I just sold my old OCZ Platinum ram and I have put the chips back the original plastic clamshell box (picture of similar clamshell below). Anyway, how should I package them? Would a bubble mailer work or should I use a box? Would it be a good idea to put the plastic clamshell case into an anti-static bag just in case?
They hand out downloads to academic alliance members like cookies. :|
Trying to borrow it form somewhere, don't want to mess with corrupt iso's.
Would a Dell or other install disc work on a custom built PC?
Big Papa Husker
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They aren't. I just found a picture of a similar case/box. Mine are DDR2.
Sorry for double posting, but this thread is more active and I need to decide quickly D:
So, are this good specs for a decent gaming laptop?
- Intel Core i7-2630QM, second generation, 2.00 GHz up to 2.90 Ghz with Turbo Boost
- SDRAM DDR3 6 GB (2 DIMM) (16 GB max)
- Radeon HD 6770M with 1024 MB GDDR5 and 4096 MB of total graphic/video memory
- HDD: 750 GB (5400 RPM)
I have to decide tonight if I will buy it or not, cause there were only 3 left at the store.
PD: I am in México, so I can't buy machines from Amazon or Newegg... it's either that one (the price is not so bad) or just keep waiting for a better equipment [sorry Steam backlog]
I wouldn't necessarily take the advice above to the bank. Right now, procs and GPUs are obscenely powerful, certainly powerful enough to be able to run any sort of game that has a mass market appeal at max everything when you're looking at hardware like the 580. We're not going to be seeing cards that have 1.5-2x the performance for the same cost, that never happens in a single generational step. 480s and 5870s still command a helluva price 2 years since they were released, and 580s will be in a similar boat. It's really not a bad time to buy right now at all, especially since we won't be seeing the big guns for quite awhile. The first set to be released is the 78xx series, not the 79xx series. Kepler is further out than the AMD cards too.
If you have the money for it, a 580 is certainly a great card, and one I would have picked up in a heartbeat for the system I built 1 month ago. Rockin' dual 560Tis, and the performance out of those isn't much higher than a single 580. The performance is above and beyond what anyone really needs, and I don't see myself needing to upgrade this box until the 7xx series of Nvidia cards are out.
If you are into playing with tech bits, you can even set yourself up with a nice PSU and grab a second 580 somewhere down the road. I've been known to advise against dual GPU setups, but Nvidia recently has me singing a different tune.
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