Principe Nero said:
Really? Oh God.
Tnx.
And... I think I'll need other researches... :-(
Something like this? http://www.prokoo.com/nanoxia-controller-p-6266.html
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Really? Oh God.
Tnx.
And... I think I'll need other researches... :-(
Something like this? http://www.prokoo.com/nanoxia-controller-p-6266.html
^ You'd want something that can control multiple case fans. I'd wait until you have it to worry about it, though, unless they'll install it for you.
Shouldn't be that loud at stock. The CPU fan will be the loudest thing in there, and he's not going to help that with a fan controller.
He'll be okay with the Q6600. At stock speeds, it's not the fastest CPU, but it's still very capable in games that support a quad core.
Principe Nero said:
Shouldn't be that loud at stock. The CPU fan will be the loudest thing in there, and he's not going to help that with a fan controller.
Eltacoman said:
He'll be okay with the Q6600. At stock speeds, it's not the fastest CPU, but it's still very capable in games that support a quad core.
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Ezahn said:
Fan controllers are pretty easy to deal with: just connect the molex to the psu, unplug the case fans pin from the motherboard and plug them into the fan controller's 3 pin connectors, then you can easily ramp up and down fan speed (400-600 rpm is nearly silent).
You can connect also the aftermarket cooler fan, when you'll get one.
Now you could control the speed of the stock heatsink fan from motherboard software and the case fan with the fan controller.
The noise from the vga instead can be easily toned down with MSI Afterburner.
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TheExodu5 said:
I know, motheboard software can help him with the cpu fan speed for the moment.
Case fans can be annoying, but i guess it depends on the person sensibility.
Also, I figure I will not be able to install all games on the SSD, so something will go on the mechanical disk: is an EcoGreen F4 going to be much worse for that? I don't think so, since Hazaro said higher platter density do a lot to make an F4 similar to an F3. Still maybe someone is doing this?
Principe Nero said:
The stock CM 690 II fans are a bit too loud for me (2x 120mm @ 1200RPM, 1x 140mm @ 1200RPM), but most people consider that quiet enough. Personally, I like my 120mm at 800RPM or blow, and 140mm at 700RPM and below.
Ezahn said:
I've got my most played games on my SSD, and everything else on a 2TB Samsung F4. No issues.
CrankyJay said:
I'd wait until BF3 comes out and then upgrade. Not sure if two 6850's equal one GTX 580 but that is what was being used when they showed it at E3. By this fall I'm sure you could sell your current 6850 and put it towards a better card. Or you could get another 6850 and play with it until then and then sell both of them and get a better card.
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How well do HDTVs work as monitors? I just got a job, and I'll be able to get a gaming PC in about a month or so... I'm sure I'll get one eventually, but will my 32" 1080p Vizio be a suitable monitor until I get a real one?
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UGH. I'm blue screening like crazy now. I played The Witcher 2 for nearly three hours last night. Logged off and when I went to post something online I blue screened. Had to reboot. Before that I had a few blue screens at odd times. Two of them caused the machine to reboot.
Today I turned the PC on this morning and when I went to shower, I came back and it had blue screened again with me doing nothing at all. I ran whocrashed and it came up with an APC_INDEX_MISMATCH on the last two crashes. Before that I had a crash on the realtech audio drivers and another kernel error.
These all appear to be driver problems (from my novice evaluation) but I don't know what driver specifically is causing it outside of the realtech audio drivers which I removed, cleaned out using driver sweeper and then reinstalled.
I think I may just bite the bullet and reinstall windows tonight and see if it corrects this cause it's really damned annoying.
Any thoughts GAF? I hope none of this is hardware related.
Today I turned the PC on this morning and when I went to shower, I came back and it had blue screened again with me doing nothing at all. I ran whocrashed and it came up with an APC_INDEX_MISMATCH on the last two crashes. Before that I had a crash on the realtech audio drivers and another kernel error.
These all appear to be driver problems (from my novice evaluation) but I don't know what driver specifically is causing it outside of the realtech audio drivers which I removed, cleaned out using driver sweeper and then reinstalled.
I think I may just bite the bullet and reinstall windows tonight and see if it corrects this cause it's really damned annoying.
Any thoughts GAF? I hope none of this is hardware related.Hrm, only hit a max of 55 degrees on one of the cores while playing Witcher 2 with the custom ultra high specs sans uber. Not bad.
Haven't touched any of the vcore settings or other voltage stuff in bios; just put the multiplier to 40 and things were stable in prime overnight. Maybe I'll try to go closer to 5ghz later on.
I don't think I'll install games on the SSD until BF3 comes out. No reasoning at all lol.
Haven't touched any of the vcore settings or other voltage stuff in bios; just put the multiplier to 40 and things were stable in prime overnight. Maybe I'll try to go closer to 5ghz later on.
I don't think I'll install games on the SSD until BF3 comes out. No reasoning at all lol.
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Futurevoid said:UGH. I'm blue screening like crazy now. I played The Witcher 2 for nearly three hours last night. Logged off and when I went to post something online I blue screened. Had to reboot. Before that I had a few blue screens at odd times. Two of them caused the machine to reboot.
Today I turned the PC on this morning and when I went to shower, I came back and it had blue screened again with me doing nothing at all. I ran whocrashed and it came up with an APC_INDEX_MISMATCH on the last two crashes. Before that I had a crash on the realtech audio drivers and another kernel error.
These all appear to be driver problems (from my novice evaluation) but I don't know what driver specifically is causing it outside of the realtech audio drivers which I removed, cleaned out using driver sweeper and then reinstalled.
I think I may just bite the bullet and reinstall windows tonight and see if it corrects this cause it's really damned annoying.
I google'd and found this:
http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/36096-bsod-crashes-apc-index-mismatch.html
Realtech provide the onboard sound on your system as well so try disabling the realtech audio chip in control panel -> hardware if no crashes then you found your culprit and look for an updated driver.
Or you could find an updated driver first and if that doesn't work disable it.
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Gonna buy a new psu tomorrow.
Corsair AX850 or HX1000 but I can't decide which.
I think the AX is the way to go because it's gold efficiency standard so it will go above 850 and lose the 90% efficiency above that level right? It's not like I'm likely to exceed 850 ever anyway but just incase...
Corsair AX850 or HX1000 but I can't decide which.
I think the AX is the way to go because it's gold efficiency standard so it will go above 850 and lose the 90% efficiency above that level right? It's not like I'm likely to exceed 850 ever anyway but just incase...
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n0n44m said:I'd say AX850 ... HX1000 is just two 500w duct taped together
I was leaning that way
Edit - so I've just read a few reviews which show that it's capable of still pulling 80+ % efficiency at 1000W and above, so I'm definitely buying the AX850.
Inferno313 said:
It'll work great, as long as the input lag is fairly low. Lower end HDTVs tend to be better when it comes to having low input lag, so I think the Vizio will be fine.
I've been using a Sony 32" for a year and I love it. I'd never go back to a TN monitor.
(viewing angles are nearly perfect when sitting in front of it)
Futurevoid said:[...]crash bsod crash[...]
I think I may just bite the bullet and reinstall windows tonight and see if it corrects this cause it's really damned annoying.
sounds pretty serious ... everything on stock clocks/settings?
All the bluescreens I can remember have been hardware/driver related for me
I'd run memtest86 first as the memory is the most failure prone hardware usually
if that runs OK then try to run without extra (sound)cards/hdds and disable as much onboard devices as you can
TheExodu5 said:
no speakers ?
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Yes. No overclocking and all motherboard settings are at default. The CPU runs at most at 50c when under load so I don't think it's a heat issue on that front.
I downloaded memtest86 last night. Since I have 8GB of ram would I need to run two instances of it for 20 minutes to get a good test?
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http://www.memtest.org/#downiso
last time I used it I just grabbed the 4.2 USB installer to run from DOS
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Am I downloading the USB auto installer and running that one a USB stick to test? I've never run memtest before so forgive my complete and total newbness here.
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TheExodu5 said:
That tv is CCFL or LED?
Nice setup.
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Alright. Thanks! I'm installing it to a USB stick now. I'll run memtest on my lunch hour and see what the results are. Hopefully everything checks out.
I honestly think the issue could be related to the audio driver but I've cleaned and updated to the latest version so I'm not sure what else to do on that front. If the RAM checks out, I'll disable the audio driver in windows and see if that stops the crashes.
I honestly think the issue could be related to the audio driver but I've cleaned and updated to the latest version so I'm not sure what else to do on that front. If the RAM checks out, I'll disable the audio driver in windows and see if that stops the crashes.
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I'm really close to putting this order through. Same build as pretty much everyone else:
COOLER MASTER HAF 922
COOLER MASTER Megaflow 200 R4-LUS-07AR-GP 200mm Red LED Case Fan
ASRock P67 EXTREME4
Intel Core i5-2500K
MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr II OC GeForce GTX 570
SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 HD204UI 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CW120G3K5 2.5"
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
~$1400
... The SSD and the fact that I had no previous case to use is really what pushed it so high, though. Guess I can't really complain.
**Cooler Master Hyper 212 plus is on the way from amazon.
Thoughts?
I looked really closely at the Antec 902 case. Really good cooling, but it's cramped space had me worried about my ability to install everything myself and not botch something. Still haven't decided on a monitor. I have a cheap 21" samsung 720p tv that i might use in the meantime, which will give me a little more time to decide on what I want in a monitor (ips/tn?, 23''/24"?, $200/$400?).
EDIT: lol forgot the memory
COOLER MASTER HAF 922
COOLER MASTER Megaflow 200 R4-LUS-07AR-GP 200mm Red LED Case Fan
ASRock P67 EXTREME4
Intel Core i5-2500K
MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr II OC GeForce GTX 570
SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 HD204UI 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CW120G3K5 2.5"
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
~$1400
barf more
**Cooler Master Hyper 212 plus is on the way from amazon.
Thoughts?
I looked really closely at the Antec 902 case. Really good cooling, but it's cramped space had me worried about my ability to install everything myself and not botch something. Still haven't decided on a monitor. I have a cheap 21" samsung 720p tv that i might use in the meantime, which will give me a little more time to decide on what I want in a monitor (ips/tn?, 23''/24"?, $200/$400?).
EDIT: lol forgot the memory
@Mouse advice from a few days ago: Probably going to just grab the NAOS 5000 because ... well, there's really kind of a lack of mouse diversity here so might as well if only for the sake of furthering user feedback. If it's bad, I'll just grab the Deathadder I suppose as it's "technically" the best mouse of the bunch in terms of everything (i.e., sensor primarily) but longevity.
I'd hope so if you're right in front of it~ Typically, the viewing angle problem is more vertical than horizontal with TN panels when sitting in front of it (and, honestly, for anime watching type stuff I prefer slightly non-optimal angle on my 2509's; anything kind of dark, though, needs to be watched properly); wide viewing angle is less mandatory, personally, since ... well, I'm right in front of it. Really though, I expected so much worse when I went back to TN panels but I honestly kind of like the two 2509's I have more than a comparable costing HDTV panel (~$500 range).
I think I need to buy a Dell 2311H or HP ZR24w just to get some side-by-sides with that, the HP 2509b (Glossy TN), and my LG 52LD550. Maybe toss in a non-glossy TN like the LG W2442PA or something. Spend a few days with them and see how I feel about them all versus each other.
TheExodu5 said:
I'd hope so if you're right in front of it~ Typically, the viewing angle problem is more vertical than horizontal with TN panels when sitting in front of it (and, honestly, for anime watching type stuff I prefer slightly non-optimal angle on my 2509's; anything kind of dark, though, needs to be watched properly); wide viewing angle is less mandatory, personally, since ... well, I'm right in front of it. Really though, I expected so much worse when I went back to TN panels but I honestly kind of like the two 2509's I have more than a comparable costing HDTV panel (~$500 range).
I think I need to buy a Dell 2311H or HP ZR24w just to get some side-by-sides with that, the HP 2509b (Glossy TN), and my LG 52LD550. Maybe toss in a non-glossy TN like the LG W2442PA or something. Spend a few days with them and see how I feel about them all versus each other.
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luffeN said:
The case itself doesn't make much difference: downvolt the stock case fans to low rpm (400-600) with a fan controller and you are done, you may also consider to change stock fans with quieter ones to obtain a bettere result (scythe slipstream 800rpm or 1200 rpm for example).
I have fractal define R3 with stock case fans and one scythe slipstream 800rpm to blow air from the heatsink, all toned down with a fan controller, it's reasonably quiet.
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M.Bluth said:
Don't know the specs but it can fit any sized GPU on the market. You can also move the top HDD cage to make room if needed.
Pray that they release crossfire profiles for BF3 on release. Most likely, you'll have to disable crossfire for the first three weeks until it is. That's about how long it usually takes for new releases. Jist of what I'm saying: Don't crossfire two weak cards to get the performance of a stronger one, it's going to fuck you. From OP.CrankyJay said:
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Interfectum said:
Twin Frozr II is a relly nice cooler, guess the III is not inferior.
n0n44m said:no speakers ?
I use headphones. I'm on Ventrilo too much for good speakers to be worthwhile. The TV speakers are used for when I need external sound.
Principe Nero said:
CCFL. No good LED TVs for PC use, really. Edge-lit LEDs look worse than CCFL, and local dimming LED only come in the very high end sets (which often have a lot of input lag).
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Kyaw said:
should that video card do okay on this PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004 (already own this don't want to upgrade unless needed)
Looks like the best I'm going to be able to get out of my i5 2500k and keep my system stable is around 4.0 ghz. Disappointing since I've read a lot of people talking about getting 4.4 or 4.5ghz out of this particular CPU.
Also wanted to mention that I went with this board and it seems pretty solid so far for a budget z68 board.
GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX $129.99
This is my 2nd gigabyte board. I had good luck with the first one - bought 4 years ago and still going strong.
Also wanted to mention that I went with this board and it seems pretty solid so far for a budget z68 board.
GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX $129.99
This is my 2nd gigabyte board. I had good luck with the first one - bought 4 years ago and still going strong.
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