"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
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mkenyon said:
I've done so. I didn't like the sound quality. I much prefer Speex at 5kB/s over CELT at 15kB/s. I posted my thoughts in the Mumble thread.
I don't like the GSM codec at 10kB/s either. Both CELT and GSM I find more grating on the ears, and voices sound too robotic and unnatural. Latency differences are not very noticeable, as you lose much of the latency advantages to Mumble if you move up to the higher quality codec. I realize that's not the popular opinion around here, but that's how I feel.
Furthermore, Mumble is just more complicated for users, and much, much less friendly when it comes to administering the server (since there's no admin consoles whatsoever).
I've got my lifetime Vent server for $100, which will do me and my friends very nicely for a while to come.
Oh man, the latency is hugely beneficial from what I've noticed. Having 5-10 people co-ordinating, there's a lot less stepping on another person's toes. I always encountered that thing in vent when you transmit right over someone because the latency is fairly significant. To each their own though.
mkenyon said:
Could have to do with the server. Everyone in my server has ~30ms ping, so latency is pretty good. We're also never more than 4-5 people in a channel, so there isn't too much stepping over each other's toes.
I liked the latency in Mumble. It definitely felt more immediate. I just really don't like the sound of voice through it, and neither did my friends. The sound cleaning filters were also really bad. A friend of mine has a fan blowing, which is kind of annoying, but with Mumble, his voice was distorted beyond recognition after the filtering.
It's in the OP right?Interfectum said:
This special eVGA promo has me personally taking it though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130684
Interfectum
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Just found this, I believe the card is $369 on newegg:
MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC Graphics Card ($324 on Amazon +shipping)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004XVMAKU/?tag=neogaf0e-20
MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC Graphics Card ($324 on Amazon +shipping)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004XVMAKU/?tag=neogaf0e-20
EricHasNoPull
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Hey GAF, Anyone care to sell me their old GPU? I am mostly looking for an Nvidia card (Low End) 200 GTX series or a 4850 for a reasonable price, please PM me.
ElyrionX said:
Off-hand, it uses the Avago ADNS-S9500 sensor too just like the NAOS (-9500, though, not -S9500) and I like the NAOS shell more. That and the G700 is wireless and I have a practically new MX Revolution to use if I want to use a wireless mouse; just really trying to replace my aging wired G5.
We'll see how much of a big deal the negative/positive acceleration problems of the NAOS 5000 are whenever I get it, I suppose. Google-fu really just gets me the same like two or three people on some forums bemoaning how terrible and awful the mouse is due to it so we'll see when I get mine sometime next week.
drhankmccoyphd
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Is a 6850 a worthwhile upgrade over a 5770 at 1050p? Comtemplating an upgrade ahead of Deus Ex, Skyrim and BF3 just not sure if it would be worth the cost.
Paracelsus
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mikespit1200 said:
No it's not, a 5850 would be cheaper (or at least same price depending on model) and would perform almost at 6870 levels. Either go with a 6870 or a 6950, assuming the 7k series doesn't release until Nov-Dec.
ChoklitReign
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Would 8GB of RAM be beneficial if I have Firefox open a lot with at least 4 or 5 pinned tabs? Could I play games alongside it with a Sandy Bridge i3, assuming the other parts are high-end?
I did what another poster suggested and put it together bare minimum outside of case (GTX 570, 1xCorsair Vengence Ram, CPU/Cooler) The CPU_LED is no longer on, but now the VGA_LED is a constant red.
I've tried putting the 570 in different slots, used the other RAM, nothing. Upon reading on other forums I may have to clear/update the BIOS or something? I don't understand how I'll be able to do that without it posting though.
I've tried putting the 570 in different slots, used the other RAM, nothing. Upon reading on other forums I may have to clear/update the BIOS or something? I don't understand how I'll be able to do that without it posting though.
ChoklitReign said:
I often have Chrome opened with about 10 tabs, run all apps you normally run, watch a movie and play a game and I haven't gone much past 4-5gb.
Eltacoman said:
Either a battery or a jumper on the physical board itself. What board is this? The manual will have an answer regardless to clear CMOS.
evil solrac v3.0
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Deputy Moonman said:
you have the OS right?
childplease
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What benefits to gaming does having a SSD have ?
Higher FPS ? Faster game boot up time ?
Higher FPS ? Faster game boot up time ?
What do you guys think about this?
Acer S231HLbid Black 23" 5ms HDMI LED-Backlight LCD monitor Slim Design
Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS700-PCAAE3-US 700W ATX 12V v2.3 Active PFC Power Supply
Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TW3X4G1333C9
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Acer S231HLbid Black 23" 5ms HDMI LED-Backlight LCD monitor Slim Design
Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS700-PCAAE3-US 700W ATX 12V v2.3 Active PFC Power Supply
Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TW3X4G1333C9
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GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Futurevoid
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So I think I either have bad memory sticks or there is something wrong with the Asrock motherboard. I did some troubleshooting at home during lunch and this is what I found:
- I disabled the onboard audio in the bios and booted up. The computer BSOD'd about 10 seconds after booting into windows. I pretty much wrote off the onboard audio as an issue at that point.
- I rebooted the machine and it wouldn't post. The motherboard showed error code 45 on the readout. I had no clue what in the hell that was so I checked the manual and I still saw nothing there that told me what it referred to. I did a few google searches and apparently error code 45 is a memory related error (if someone is more familiar with it, please chime in).
- I rebooted again after a full power off and it booted into windows fine this time. I was able to surf a bit more and then another BSOD (they are happening pretty consistently now). I turned the machine off and booted off of the USB stick to run memtest86. I ran the two RAM sticks in the normal dual channel config I've been running. The pass level got to about 13% percent before the whole thing froze up and I couldn't exit out.
- I turned the thing off and removed one of the memory sticks off of the system and ran in single channel mode with the RAM plugged into the lane closest to the CPU. When I left it was still running the test but there was a boatload of red errors below....
I'll see how the full test turns out when I get home. I'll test the next memory stick on its own to see what happens as well and then test each lane.
Thoughts?
- I disabled the onboard audio in the bios and booted up. The computer BSOD'd about 10 seconds after booting into windows. I pretty much wrote off the onboard audio as an issue at that point.
- I rebooted the machine and it wouldn't post. The motherboard showed error code 45 on the readout. I had no clue what in the hell that was so I checked the manual and I still saw nothing there that told me what it referred to. I did a few google searches and apparently error code 45 is a memory related error (if someone is more familiar with it, please chime in).
- I rebooted again after a full power off and it booted into windows fine this time. I was able to surf a bit more and then another BSOD (they are happening pretty consistently now). I turned the machine off and booted off of the USB stick to run memtest86. I ran the two RAM sticks in the normal dual channel config I've been running. The pass level got to about 13% percent before the whole thing froze up and I couldn't exit out.
- I turned the thing off and removed one of the memory sticks off of the system and ran in single channel mode with the RAM plugged into the lane closest to the CPU. When I left it was still running the test but there was a boatload of red errors below....
I'll see how the full test turns out when I get home. I'll test the next memory stick on its own to see what happens as well and then test each lane.
Thoughts?
Anton Sugar
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I've been thinking about getting a new Mobo and just saw this: MSI MB INTEL CI7 X58 LGA1366 (BSTK) cut from $200 to $56
Anyone have any experience with x58's?
Anyone have any experience with x58's?
Futurevoid said:
that stick is probably broken, but:
-> test out the other stick first and see if that one does work ... I think the chance of both sticks being broken is quite small
-> if the 2nd stick does give errors as well then there might be an issue with your motherboard (or the RAM and motherboard are incompatible somehow)
Futurevoid said:So I think I either have bad memory sticks or there is something wrong with the Asrock motherboard. I did some troubleshooting at home during lunch and this is what I found:
- I disabled the onboard audio in the bios and booted up. The computer BSOD'd about 10 seconds after booting into windows. I pretty much wrote off the onboard audio as an issue at that point.
- I rebooted the machine and it wouldn't post. The motherboard showed error code 45 on the readout. I had no clue what in the hell that was so I checked the manual and I still saw nothing there that told me what it referred to. I did a few google searches and apparently error code 45 is a memory related error (if someone is more familiar with it, please chime in).
- I rebooted again after a full power off and it booted into windows fine this time. I was able to surf a bit more and then another BSOD (they are happening pretty consistently now). I turned the machine off and booted off of the USB stick to run memtest86. I ran the two RAM sticks in the normal dual channel config I've been running. The pass level got to about 13% percent before the whole thing froze up and I couldn't exit out.
- I turned the thing off and removed one of the memory sticks off of the system and ran in single channel mode with the RAM plugged into the lane closest to the CPU. When I left it was still running the test but there was a boatload of red errors below....
I'll see how the full test turns out when I get home. I'll test the next memory stick on its own to see what happens as well and then test each lane.
Thoughts?
I think you pretty much answered yourself, it all points to bad memory. Test the other stick and see what happens. If the other one gets no errors, try running on that stick and see how Windows acts.
EasyMode said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHrqlV00sLY&feature=player_embedded
Should give you an idea what the game looks like in comparison.
Futurevoid
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Another noob question but what should I be seeing in memtest if everything is working? Should I get no red errors at all? I would imagine that is the case but I figured I'd ask.
Yeah, I just want to be sure before I go out and buy more RAM is all. I'm a bit gunshy. I bought a prebuilt system before this one that had a dead motherboard that would just keep rebooting itself and it would just be my luck to end up with another one
.Futurevoid
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Thanks, guys. I appreciate the help.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Hey PC Gaf,
I can't afford to build my first PC until next year, so in the meantime I was wondering if any of you could help me make the best out of the desktop I have currently (for hopefully not too much money).
I currently have a Dell optiplex gx280, 3GB RAM, Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz, with some sort of NVidia GeForce cared in it (don't remember the specific one).
I can add one more gig of RAM, but is there really anything else I can do to make do?
Right now it runs WoW, TF2, and Starcraft 2, all on very low settings.
I can't afford to build my first PC until next year, so in the meantime I was wondering if any of you could help me make the best out of the desktop I have currently (for hopefully not too much money).
I currently have a Dell optiplex gx280, 3GB RAM, Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz, with some sort of NVidia GeForce cared in it (don't remember the specific one).
I can add one more gig of RAM, but is there really anything else I can do to make do?
Right now it runs WoW, TF2, and Starcraft 2, all on very low settings.
Mr Nightman
Banned
would say save your money, thats some pretty dated hardware man, may benefit from a lowmid range graphics card, but not much, may want to look into a geforce 210Deadly Cyclone said:
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Mr Nightman said:
Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. Thanks guys.
Just funny that my work laptop is the best PC in my house, and for some reason has 8GB of RAM.
Mr Nightman
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well its just the fact that aside from a cheap video card, that pentium 4 would be an extreme bottleneck to most newer video cards.Deadly Cyclone said:Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. Thanks guys.
Just funny that my work laptop is the best PC in my house, and for some reason has 8GB of RAM.
It's this one exactly. I can't wait to build my new one. Never buying stock again.
http://reviews.cnet.com/Dell_XPS_410_Core_2_Duo_E6600/4505-3118_7-31986893.html
http://reviews.cnet.com/Dell_XPS_410_Core_2_Duo_E6600/4505-3118_7-31986893.html
I was just looking around in BIOS and noticed that my DRAM voltage is automatically being set to 1.65V even though my RAM is rated for 1.5V. Should I leave it how it is at auto 1.65V or manually set it for 1.5V?
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