"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]

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Trojita said:
I think my cable speed was like 28/15. I think the LAN speeds supposedly of the b/g router I currently have is 54Mbps. Would the actual internet connected to the computer on the LAN be faster because the LAN Speed is faster, or would it not see any difference since 28 is lower than 54 anyways?
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Your LAN speed is probably 100Mbps. Getting a gigabit router increase it to 1000Mbps. So, data being transfer within your LAN would increase greatly. But, your internet speed should still be the same because it's limited by your connection.
 
To put things in perspective, my 2600K sandybridge runs stock 3.4GHz and I run 1.04V.
My idle temps are 26C and never go over 36C when gaming. Also run the VDIMM volts at 1.5V as sandybridge has no need for higher on the DIMM.
Don't worry about running IBT or PRIME. You will never run the cpu 100% load.
As long as the PC is not BSOD then just keep gaming.
You will achieve 4GHz at 1.2V and at the moment there is no need to go over that if you're only gaming.
When I built my first PC, I spent to long trying to get a stable OC before I realised I spent more time configuring my PC than gaming on it.
 
knitoe said:
Your LAN speed is probably 100Mbps. Getting a gigabit router increase it to 1000Mbps. So, data being transfer within your LAN would increase greatly. But, your internet speed should still be the same because it's limited by your connection.
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So I guess if you theoritcally had a 500 mb file on your network that you tried to access. You would be limited by the hard drive and then instead of say it taking 5 seconds for the files data to pass through the LAN, it would only take .5 - 1 second with the 1000Mbps router.
 
Trojita said:
I think my cable speed was like 28/15. I think the LAN speeds supposedly of the b/g router I currently have is 54Mbps. Would the actual internet connected to the computer on the LAN be faster because the LAN Speed is faster, or would it not see any difference since 28 is lower than 54 anyways?
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There's interference using wireless. Your performance on wireless actually is only 30-40% of what it is capable due to all the errors and noises that disturb wireless connections.

Try it. Plugin an Ethernet cable in and compare that to wireless performance. If your broadband connection is really fast, you will be able to see a huge difference. If your internet connection sucks, then it won't matter.
 
Going through my finances right now to see if I can justify a new build. Still running a 4+ year old build. We'll see.

Also wanting to get a second monitor. I have a dual monitor setup at work, and I love it. Makes it painful to go back to a single monitor at home now, haha. Looking at this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=24-009-266

Seems like a great price for a 23" 1080p monitor. On sale today, too. Anybody have any other recommendations for a sub-$150 monitor? Preferably 1080p and 22" or bigger.
 
My brother, his mate and I built his PC today. It was in a Coolermaster HAF X with an i5 2500k, Asus GTX 580 and 8gbs of corsair ram. Went pretty smoothly although the Hypercooler 212 was an absolute bitch to install, I heard it was going to be fiddly but jesus christ did I not expect that.

Just played BF2 at max and the map loaded in ~5 seconds. Last time we played BF2 on our last rig it took about ~5 minutes to load on low settings. Installing Metro 2033 now and I'm going to buy Crysis once it's done. It feels good to be back. PC gaming is so good.
 
Firestorm said:
Ok my friend needs a new PC.

Your Current Specs: Needs a new CPU so that also means a new motherboard and RAM is required. Only has a GT 240.
Budget: Price Range + Country
Main Use: Gaming, Video Editing, Graphics, Special Effects (Video), Indie Game Development
Monitor Resolution: Has a 1280x1024 monitor. Could use an upgrade.
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: World of Warcraft, Minecraft, probably other nice new games would be good now that she'll actually be able to play them
Are reusing any parts?: Honestly looking at her old parts makes me think it'll be better to put the old PC aside for usage by someone else or as a second computer and do this from scratch. OS, Mouse, Keyboard not required though.
When will you build?: ASAP
Will you be overclocking?: No
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Canada-GAF halp
 
Rekubot said:
Does this build not need a CPU cooler that is purchased separately from the Intel i3? Or does the one that is supplied with the i3 do the trick?
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Can't overclock with an i3 last I checked, so I imagine buying a CPU cooler is only good for peace of mind or if you live in a VERY hot area with no air conditioning.
 
Smokey said:
Not arguing against that. Quite a difference between 55 and 72.6 though.
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Yeah, there's a lot of people who don't base their overclocking on good data. 72.6 Tcase means even higher on the cores themselves. For a hobby that's based on science and technology there's still a lot of superstition that overclockers develop, hence why you see some people say that you sould stay below 55. Feel free to blow all the way up to 72 without any worries, once you start pushing past 72 you should be keeping track of the difference between your Tcase and Tjunction. You won't blow a chip as soon as you hit over 72.6, but after that point the onus is on you.
 
Arnie said:
My brother, his mate and I built his PC today. It was in a Coolermaster HAF X with an i5 2500k, Asus GTX 580 and 8gbs of corsair ram. Went pretty smoothly although the Hypercooler 212 was an absolute bitch to install, I heard it was going to be fiddly but jesus christ did I not expect that.
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Battlefield 2?

"CACHING SHADERS ALL DAY 'ERRY DAY"
 
If I'm looking for a card that'll last me a long time will a GTX570 be good? Or should I go for a GTX580? Also, does it matter what brand I go with?
 
Darklord said:
If I'm looking for a card that'll last me a long time will a GTX570 be good? Or should I go for a GTX580? Also, does it matter what brand I go with?
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Need to be more specific by what you mean "last a long time".

Any mid tier card will last you a long time if you just care about playing multiplatform games at a higher res than consoles. If you want to max games, then that's a different story.

If you're looking at a 570 I'd highly suggest getting one like this EVGA with 2.5GB. The reference 570 only comes with 1.2GB of RAM. Reference 580 1.5GB. The majority of the time this is fine, but if you want it to last you "a long time", look into the variants with higher RAM on board.
 
Smokey said:
Need to be more specific by what you mean "last a long time".
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Few years. Max/very high at the start to medium later on. As an example I've had my GTX 260 since 2009 and am upgrading now. I'm looking for something like that.

Any mid tier card will last you a long time if you just care about playing multiplatform games at a higher res than consoles. If you want to max games, then that's a different story.

If you're looking at a 570 I'd highly suggest getting one like this EVGA with 2.5GB. The reference 570 only comes with 1.2GB of RAM. Reference 580 1.5GB. The majority of the time this is fine, but if you want it to last you "a long time", look into the variants with higher RAM on board.
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I was looking at this. http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1170&products_id=17683

GTX 580 3GB. It's coming out on friday and $100 more than the 1.5GB.

I can't find the 2.5gb. This is the new one coming out here. It's not 2.5gb though... http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1177&products_id=17320

I'll probably get either the 2.5gb 570 or 3gb 580. Not sure which though.
 
Hey fellow Gaffers, I could really use a hand.
Just experienced a BSOD, on reboot I had this error come up, causing me to have to reboot again to get back on;



I'm going to be honest, I know very little about computers and I'm really stumped as to what the problem could be, and I don't really know how to go about investigating it to get it resolved.
 
Merovin said:
Hey fellow Gaffers, I could really use a hand.
Just experienced a BSOD, on reboot I had this error come up, causing me to have to reboot again to get back on;



I'm going to be honest, I know very little about computers and I'm really stumped as to what the problem could be, and I don't really know how to go about investigating it to get it resolved.
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Your computer can't find your hard drive, so it was looking for other boot sources (Network).

It's either dead or not plugged in or somehow your computer didn't want to detect it for a while.

Does it work now?
 
Darklord said:
Few years. Max/very high at the start to medium later on. As an example I've had my GTX 260 since 2009 and am upgrading now. I'm looking for something like that.



I was looking at this. http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1170&products_id=17683

GTX 580 3GB. It's coming out on friday and $100 more than the 1.5GB.

I can't find the 2.5gb. This is the new one coming out here. It's not 2.5gb though... http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1177&products_id=17320

I'll probably get either the 2.5gb 570 or 3gb 580. Not sure which though.
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Oh you're in Australia, I was thrown off for a second. I wouldn't assume that 570 to be a mistake. I'd contact them just in case. Everything on that page gives the indication that it's the 1.2GB version.

I currently have a 1.5GB 580. Really it handles anything I throw at it with ease. Only game I really have "issues" with is Crysis 2 DX11 with ULTRA everything + Hi-res pack. It uses up to 1.4GB on my card (hence my reasoning for recommending you go with a card with more RAM), but I still average 45fps @1080p. Before the DX11 patch and hi res pack I was pulling 60+ in Crysis 2 @ Extreme during the majority of my play.

Likewise the 570 will rip through any game out as well for $100 cheaper. Get one of those that has more RAM and you'll be set. Depends on if you want top dog (580) because you can, or if you're ok with not having the best but still optimal performance.
 
claviertekky said:
Your computer can't find your hard drive, so it was looking for other boot sources (Network).

It's either dead or not plugged in or somehow your computer didn't want to detect it for a while.

Does it work now?
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It seems to be now, but after a while it appears to happen again, most commonly whilst gaming. I've just rolled back my graphics card drivers, it's likely coincidence, but that was the last thing that happened before it started happening. So I'll see how that goes, but besides that, I really have no idea.
 
Smokey said:
Oh you're in Australia, I was thrown off for a second. I wouldn't assume that 570 to be a mistake. I'd contact them just in case. Everything on that page gives the indication that it's the 1.2GB version.

I currently have a 1.5GB 580. Really it handles anything I throw at it with ease. Only game I really have "issues" with is Crysis 2 DX11 with ULTRA everything + Hi-res pack. It uses up to 1.4GB on my card (hence my reasoning for recommending you go with a card with more RAM), but I still average 45fps @1080p. Before the DX11 patch and hi res pack I was pulling 60+ in Crysis 2 @ Extreme during the majority of my play.

Likewise the 570 will rip through any game out as well for $100 cheaper. Get one of those that has more RAM and you'll be set. Depends on if you want top dog (580) because you can, or if you're ok with not having the best but still optimal performance.
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I'll see if I can get the 2.5GB one here. If I can't I'll just buy the 580 3GB. Thanks for the help. One last question. The 580 says it needs a 600W PSU. I have a Corsair Micro CMPSU-620HX(620W) so it's pretty close to the requirement. Would that be ok?
 
Darklord said:
I'll see if I can get the 2.5GB one here. If I can't I'll just buy the 580 3GB. Thanks for the help. One last question. The 580 says it needs a 600W PSU. I have a Corsair Micro CMPSU-620HX(620W) so it's pretty close to the requirement. Would that be ok?
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Check this page for power usage from a ref 580

You wouldn't be able to SLI or anything with the card, but I think you'd be ok with your PSU. Do you overclock your CPU/RAM etc?
 
My PSU just died epicly. Loud bang, smell of smoke, me scrambling to unplug the PC for fear of explosion, heh.

What are the odds that it took CPU/GPU/RAM/Mobo etc with it? I don't have a spare PSU here to test anything.

Goddamnit. During the Steam sales, too!
 
Smokey said:
Huh? I'm confused by this. That doesn't really make much sense to me. For instance take a look over at overclock.net. Not many people with OC i7s are in the mid 50 range..

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/968053-official-sandy-stable-club-post-your.html
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The more heat you put on the processor the shorter it's lifespan. I like having the over clock available to me on the 2600K. But I currently don't use it. Gaming with a 2500k or 2600k over clocked really offers no benefit at this point.

I'd be willing to be my unoverclocked performance is more stable, efficient, and therefore powerful via gaming than an OC. It just seems like a stats pissing match to me right now. When it'll make a difference though I'll be sure to bump it up.

As is my 2600k never gets above 45C with the hyper 212 on stock speeds while playing Crysis 2 or Metro. The gtx580 is a different story though!
 
In about 8 minutes of prime 95 and Realtemp I got load max temp of 54,55,55,54C with Hyper 212+ and Arctic Silver paste. Do these temps sound like i seated and pasted everything right for the cooler? Thanks
 
The Teachinator said:
The more heat you put on the processor the shorter it's lifespan. I like having the over clock available to me on the 2600K. But I currently don't use it. Gaming with a 2500k or 2600k over clocked really offers no benefit at this point.

I'd be willing to be my unoverclocked performance is more stable, efficient, and therefore powerful via gaming than an OC. It just seems like a stats pissing match to me right now. When it'll make a difference though I'll be sure to bump it up.

As is my 2600k never gets above 45C with the hyper 212 on stock speeds while playing Crysis 2 or Metro. The gtx580 is a different story though!
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How can you say this? People have their CPUs at 4.4ghz+ or whatever and have run Prime on it for several hours to make sure it is stable. The CPUs were made to be OC'd, so it seems a bit silly to me to say that.

Longevity I can agree with though.
 
Might as well have bought a 2600 if you weren't going to OC.

Stress tests are the most unlikely scenario you can put your CPU in. If it doesn't fail then it's rock solid. It's just a matter of managing temps then.

It's free performance.
 
The Teachinator said:
The more heat you put on the processor the shorter it's lifespan. I like having the over clock available to me on the 2600K. But I currently don't use it. Gaming with a 2500k or 2600k over clocked really offers no benefit at this point.

I'd be willing to be my unoverclocked performance is more stable, efficient, and therefore powerful via gaming than an OC. It just seems like a stats pissing match to me right now. When it'll make a difference though I'll be sure to bump it up.

As is my 2600k never gets above 45C with the hyper 212 on stock speeds while playing Crysis 2 or Metro. The gtx580 is a different story though!
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Why'd you get a k cpu in the first place? Also, I'm sure overclocking would net you wonderful bonuses in the realm of emulation. Multiple GPUs also seem to benefit from faster CPUs
 
I want to upgrade my video card once BF3 comes out. Right now my specs are:

i7-2600 3.4gHz
6GB RAM
Nvidia GT420 1GB
460 watt ps

I want to stay with Nvidia because of being able to take advantage of the CUDA processors for my Photoshop, After Effects and 3dsmax. Is Nvidia planning on coming out with anything new by the time BF3 ships?
 
Marco1 said:
To put things in perspective, my 2600K sandybridge runs stock 3.4GHz and I run 1.04V.
My idle temps are 26C and never go over 36C when gaming. Also run the VDIMM volts at 1.5V as sandybridge has no need for higher on the DIMM.
Don't worry about running IBT or PRIME. You will never run the cpu 100% load.
As long as the PC is not BSOD then just keep gaming.
You will achieve 4GHz at 1.2V and at the moment there is no need to go over that if you're only gaming.
When I built my first PC, I spent to long trying to get a stable OC before I realised I spent more time configuring my PC than gaming on it.
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Thanks for the post. I pretty much use my PC exclusively for Music, Gaming, and Internet browsing, so I suppose 4GHz is good enough. I am worrying to much about OC for sure, good thing I just bought way too many games from this Steam sale lol.
 
mrwilt said:
I want to upgrade my video card once BF3 comes out. Right now my specs are:

i7-2600 3.4gHz
6GB RAM
Nvidia GT420 1GB
460 watt ps

I want to stay with Nvidia because of being able to take advantage of the CUDA processors for my Photoshop, After Effects and 3dsmax. Is Nvidia planning on coming out with anything new by the time BF3 ships?
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Smokey said:
Some Kepler
sad
news:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Nvidia-Kepler-GPU-to-Launch-in-Q1-2012-Report-209623.shtml

If AMD lanches the 7000 series this year, Nvidia could be in some trouble. Would be a repeat of the 400 series for Nvidia.
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^

If you want to stay with Nvidia and can't wait until 2012, get in nao.
 
Foliorum Viridum said:
My PSU just died epicly. Loud bang, smell of smoke, me scrambling to unplug the PC for fear of explosion, heh.

What are the odds that it took CPU/GPU/RAM/Mobo etc with it? I don't have a spare PSU here to test anything.

Goddamnit. During the Steam sales, too!
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I've had a PSU blow up and everything continued to work just fine. You won't know until you plug in another one.

How did it go? Did it straight up fail or was it overloaded?
 
Hey guys, so I'm not really looking to build a new PC at the moment, but I am looking to get a new monitor. I'm currently looking at these two at Newegg. The major difference is that one is LED backlit where the other one is not. I've read good and bad things about the LED monitors, anybody have any suggestions?

Comparison here.
 
Smokey said:
How can you say this? People have their CPUs at 4.4ghz+ or whatever and have run Prime on it for several hours to make sure it is stable. The CPUs were made to be OC'd, so it seems a bit silly to me to say that.

Longevity I can agree with though.
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I'm speaking in regards to gaming not benchmarking. I don't doubt people's overclocks at all. I just don't see the point in flipping that switch yet as my performance has been through the roof.
 
georaldc said:
Why'd you get a k cpu in the first place? Also, I'm sure overclocking would net you wonderful bonuses in the realm of emulation. Multiple GPUs also seem to benefit from faster CPUs
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I got the K because I wanted that option down the road.
 
brochiller said:
Hey guys, so I'm not really looking to build a new PC at the moment, but I am looking to get a new monitor. I'm currently looking at these two at Newegg. The major difference is that one is LED backlit where the other one is not. I've read good and bad things about the LED monitors, anybody have any suggestions?

Comparison here.
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Get the 236. The 242 is .6" bigger but has slightly more response time at 5ms compared to the 2ms for the 236.

Personally, I was going to get the 236 but I decided to pick up the LG W2442PA instead; real bonus is that it has a stand that rotates.
 
RS4- said:
Get the 236. The 242 is .6" bigger but has slightly more response time at 5ms compared to the 2ms for the 236.

Personally, I was going to get the 236 but I decided to pick up the LG W2442PA instead; real bonus is that it has a stand that rotates.
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I'm not sure where you got the 242 from. The link is supposed to go to a comparison between the 236 and the 238.

That LG is nice though, but I am trying to keep my budget below $200.
 
brochiller said:
I'm not sure where you got the 242 from. The link is supposed to go to a comparison between the 236 and the 238.

That LG is nice though, but I am trying to keep my budget below $200.
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Oh sorry, the 242 was just there just in case you wanted the slightly bigger screen size if you wanted to stay with the LCD route.
 
Arnie said:
My brother, his mate and I built his PC today. It was in a Coolermaster HAF X with an i5 2500k, Asus GTX 580 and 8gbs of corsair ram. Went pretty smoothly although the Hypercooler 212 was an absolute bitch to install, I heard it was going to be fiddly but jesus christ did I not expect that.

Just played BF2 at max and the map loaded in ~5 seconds. Last time we played BF2 on our last rig it took about ~5 minutes to load on low settings. Installing Metro 2033 now and I'm going to buy Crysis once it's done. It feels good to be back. PC gaming is so good.
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As a complete PC building noob, this makes me un-easy. I hope installing that 212 plus goes well for me.
 
Tashi0106 said:
As a complete PC building noob, this makes me un-easy. I hope installing that 212 plus goes well for me.
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There are much worse mounting mechanisms out there. The 212 really isn't that complicated, but if you're uneasy about it, look at some installation vids on YouTube to guide you through the process.


Red Blaster said:
Red Blaster said:
Is the Antec Sonata Proto spacious enough for most systems? It's only a mid-tower and am worried that it's too small for a GTX 570.
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Anybody?

Also what's a decent case fan to grab?
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The Antec Sonata Proto isn't worth $65 (it isn't a good match for a GTX 570, either). The OP recommendation will be changing soon. Just have to wait for certain replacements to be released between Q3 and Q4. As is, have a look at options like the Antec 300 (only if it's ~$50, or less), BitFenix Shinobi, Cooler Master HAF 912, NZXT Source 210 ($40) and 210 Elite ($50).

Any potential fan recommendations would depend on your budget, size and whether you end up needing one.
 
I installed an older CPU into a new build today, Phenom II 955. Reapplied thermals, used same stock cooler. In the BIOS, it ramps up to like 55-56C.

Back on my old build, it'd idle at ~42C or so.

I reapplied TIM twice, cleaned chip and HSF with 99% Isopropyl alcohol as well. Does it just need to burn in?
 
darthbob said:
I installed an older CPU into a new build today, Phenom II 955. Reapplied thermals, used same stock cooler. In the BIOS, it ramps up to like 55-56C.

Back on my old build, it'd idle at ~42C or so.

I reapplied TIM twice, cleaned chip and HSF with 99% Isopropyl alcohol as well. Does it just need to burn in?
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It's a pretty hot cpu, is the heatsink mounted properly? You maybe putting to much thermal paste on it.

Mine idles around 36 to 38 with an H60 right now.
 
darthbob said:
I installed an older CPU into a new build today, Phenom II 955. Reapplied thermals, used same stock cooler. In the BIOS, it ramps up to like 55-56C.

Back on my old build, it'd idle at ~42C or so.

I reapplied TIM twice, cleaned chip and HSF with 99% Isopropyl alcohol as well. Does it just need to burn in?
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Is it the stock AM3 cooler with the copper heatpipes?
 
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