"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]

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zazrx said:
Ah so put the paste on the sink, not the CPU itself. Ok, let me find some alcohol and clean this mess up.
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I find it easier to put it on the CPU. But either way is fine as long as you get the pins through the holes tbh.
 
Ok thanks, I have no rubbing alcohol here so I'll have to go buy some later tonight. I will clean it and add the new one when I get home. Hopefully it works out fine and I'll make sure the sink is properly put in place because it was extremely loose when I touched it.
 
mkenyon said:
Looks good enough for the time being. Not sure if the proc is strong enough for hard emulation or not. Bulldozer will probably fix that though. First things first, after that is done get a new GPU.
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Thanks for the quick responses Might hold out for 4 core Bulldozer then depending on price. CPU will likely be the last part I buy maybe Newegg will have a good deal on it christmas hopefully.

bill0527 said:
Be careful doing this as most places only have 30 day return policies.

Would suck to finally get everything together and find out you've got a bad mobo, or a bad stick of RAM, and will have to go to the hassle of going through the manufacturer instead of being able to return and replace it wherever you bought it.
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Thats a great idea. I just know ill just use the money before if dont buy parts right away but must be strong. Normally how hard is it to get the manufacture to send a new part if it defective?
 
zazrx said:
Ok thanks, I have no rubbing alcohol here so I'll have to go buy some later tonight. I will clean it and add the new one when I get home. Hopefully it works out fine and I'll make sure the sink is properly put in place because it was extremely loose when I touched it.
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That's a good thing, in so far as that we know it was the likely cause of your high temperatures.

mkenyon said:
Use 90%+ isopropyl alcohol, the 70% stuff can cause harm. I use a cotton swab for cleaning, but that's just preference.
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I've used 70% before when it was all I had. I knew the risks, but I figured if I didn't get it on any parts that conduct electricity, that I should be fine.

The higher the better for sure though. I'd sooner have 0% water anywhere near my motherboard.
 
zulfate said:
I am sorry my brothers but i dont have it in me to build a pc....that being said what do you guys think of digital storm's ODE- level 3, my budget i saround 2400 this kinda fits the bill and i look around online and it seems like there good service and customer care too.

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadode.asp?id=566405&hide=1
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If I can do it, then you can and with that much money to work with you'll get a god tier system.
 
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
If I can do it, then you can and with that much money to work with you'll get a god tier system.
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hell I am in a wheelchair with very limited strength, and walked my cousin through my build. Works great, you can do it :-)
 
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
If I can do it, then you can and with that much money to work with you'll get a god tier system.
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but...but...ok i guess ill try what if i cant do it? should i just go with NCIXUS, how reliable is th e$50 build thing do they just put it togethere and ship it lol or do they actually test it?
 
zulfate said:
but...but...ok i guess ill try what if i cant do it? should i just go with NCIXUS, how reliable is th e$50 build thing do they just put it togethere and ship it lol or do they actually test it?
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http://www.ncixus.com/products/26376/PC-ASSEMBLY-BB/NCIXPC/

They'll assemble it, install the OS, and test it.

I've never used them (I've always built my own) but I've heard good things.

Alternatively, if you have a Microcenter nearby, they build computers as well, although for a bit more money. You'd still save a fortune over that boutique builder though.

(One of ussssssss. Build your ownnnnnn.)
 
Got a call from the computer shop saying they replaced my broke motherboard with a new one and my systems working again, third time lucky I hope!

I think it's an AsRock board now, do their 1155 pin boards have that new BIOS replacement thing?
 
LordCanti said:
http://www.ncixus.com/products/26376/PC-ASSEMBLY-BB/NCIXPC/

They'll assemble it, install the OS, and test it.

I've never used them (I've always built my own) but I've heard good things.

Alternatively, if you have a Microcenter nearby, they build computers as well, although for a bit more money. You'd still save a fortune over that boutique builder though.

(One of ussssssss. Build your ownnnnnn.)
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Well my co-worker said he will show me how to build the computer so i guess ill just buy from newegg lol..thanks eitherway

also one more thing: warranty how does it work if its multiple parts?, i love having a warranty and thats why i was looking at digital storm
 
zulfate said:
Well my co-worker said he will show me how to build the computer so i guess ill just buy from newegg lol..thanks eitherway

also one more thing: warranty how does it work if its multiple parts?, i love having a warranty and thats why i was looking at digital storm
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You have a separate one for each part.
 
I'm buying a new HDD in a few days, do you think its worth upgrading my video card or just wait a few months and build a new rig?

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6320 @ 1.86GHz
RAM: 2GB
Videocard: GeForce 7600 GS
 
Sourtreats said:
I'm buying a new HDD in a few days, do you think its worth upgrading my video card or just wait a few months and build a new rig?

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6320 @ 1.86GHz
RAM: 2GB
Videocard: GeForce 7600 GS
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You could upgrade the video card now, and transplant it into the new build. The difference you'd see between a 7600 GS and something like a GTX 460 (or a 560 TI, depending on budget) would be enormous. Just make sure your PSU can handle it, if you go that route.
 
I'd wait a few months and build a new rig. While a new video card would be a serious upgrade, that CPU is going to be a major bottleneck no matter what.
 
I take it that it's probably a good idea to disable my onboard audio? I still have that + my audigy card on, only using the latter with speakers connected though. Have yet to have any problems lol.
 
YES! It was just the fan hitting the wire I move it to in between the memory and the fan (though I can move it anywhere else too), and now it's working fine and a normal level of noise. The fan is actually faster now too, just under 2000 RPM. The temps are actually slightly higher (like two degrees on one or two cores), but we also didn't have the air on today, so it could be that, but it's not even an issue. Tried my product key from Windows and got the only for upgrade message, but then I just need to do the reghack or double install and it should be fine. I just need to put the outer case on, but besides Windows being activated, we are done! :)
 
Couple of quick questions, PC-GAF, there's a good sale going on at a local NCIX opening so I'm thinking of picking up a 2500k and some ram (it's at a good price). Will I be okay with purchasing a couple of sticks of Corsair XMS3 (4 gb ddr3 @ 1600)? I'm planning on sitting on these parts and pick up a mobo sometime later this year when I find a good deal on one too. I know the proc. will be fine for years to come, but will the ram will be okay with Ivy Bridge too? When I eventually swap out my cpu for an upgrade sometime down the road. Thanks for your help :)
 
Conceptor said:
Couple of quick questions, PC-GAF, there's a good sale going on at a local NCIX opening so I'm thinking of picking up a 2500k and some ram (it's at a good price). Will I be okay with purchasing a couple of sticks of Corsair XMS3 (4 gb ddr3 @ 1600)? I'm planning on sitting on these parts and pick up a mobo sometime later this year when I find a good deal on one too. I know the proc. will be fine for years to come, but will the ram will be okay with Ivy Bridge too? When I eventually swap out my cpu for an upgrade sometime down the road. Thanks for your help :)
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It's hard to say, I don't think anyone really knows if they'll move to DDR4 or something; I don't think they will either or could have something where ddr3 and ddr4 keep the same notches in the dimm slots.

Manos, glad you got that sorted out!

edit - last time I checked, IB is still using DDR3
 
Conceptor said:
Couple of quick questions, PC-GAF, there's a good sale going on at a local NCIX opening so I'm thinking of picking up a 2500k and some ram (it's at a good price). Will I be okay with purchasing a couple of sticks of Corsair XMS3 (4 gb ddr3 @ 1600)? I'm planning on sitting on these parts and pick up a mobo sometime later this year when I find a good deal on one too. I know the proc. will be fine for years to come, but will the ram will be okay with Ivy Bridge too? When I eventually swap out my cpu for an upgrade sometime down the road. Thanks for your help :)
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Yes the RAM should be fine. Ivy Bridge will be compatible with the 6-series chipset motherboards and DDR3 RAM.
 
TheExodu5 said:
I'd wait a few months and build a new rig. While a new video card would be a serious upgrade, that CPU is going to be a major bottleneck no matter what.
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LordCanti said:
You could upgrade the video card now, and transplant it into the new build. The difference you'd see between a 7600 GS and something like a GTX 460 (or a 560 TI, depending on budget) would be enormous. Just make sure your PSU can handle it, if you go that route.
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I'm going to download The Witcher tonight on it and see if it can run that. If it can I'll hold off for a while and just play that and TF2 for a bit longer.
 
Nakazato said:
Thats a great idea. I just know ill just use the money before if dont buy parts right away but must be strong. Normally how hard is it to get the manufacture to send a new part if it defective?
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It really depends on the manufacturer. Some of the them are really good, others will put you into e-mail hell back and forth and not getting anywhere. You'll have to go through customer service and their tech support to make sure its actually defective and not something on your end. Its not something I've ever looked forward to doing. Much easier just to get a replacement within 30 days with no questions asked.
 
Someone here suggested that I only needed a switch to have my PC and my tv (probably just 720p for Roku for now) connected to the internet through my cable companies phone/cable modem. But does the switch just split the bandwidth? I probably dont have a strong enough connection for the Roku if the signal is split.

Here is my network speed.

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I H8 Memes said:
Someone here suggested that I only needed a switch to have my PC and my tv (probably just 720p for Roku for now) connected to the internet through my cable companies phone/cable modem. But does the switch just split the bandwidth? I probably dont have a strong enough connection for the Roku if the signal is split.

Here is my network speed.

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A switch just controls access. The bandwidth is only 'split' if you're using both things at the same time. It's no different to downloading two things at once on your PC.
 
Ok, I'm one click away from buying this build:


Intel CORE i5 2500K/3.30GHz/6MB CACHE/LGA1155 CPU214.04
ASRock Z68-Pro3 4xDDR3 PCIex16 GBL RAID DVI HDMI VGA 1394a USB3.0 SATA3 136.62
G.SKILL Ripjaws-X 8GB (4GB x 2) PC3 12800 (DDR3-1600) 77.22
COOLER MASTER HAF RC-912 Advanced Case 115.24
Corsair HX-650 650W ATX Modular Power Supply, 120mm fan, Dual PCI-E Graphic 18/7 137.50
Samsung 2TB(HD204UI) F4EG EcoGreen HDD - SATA II 3.0Gbs, 32MB Cache85.80
Sapphire HD6970 2GB GDDR5 256Bit GDDR5 PCIE 337.63
Crucial CT064M4SSD2 64GB Crucial m4 2.5-inch SATA 6GB/s 20/7 158.25

Any final advice/tips/objections?

This is going to be the first machine I've ever actually assembled personally, so I'll be coming back here for help I'm sure.
 
So if I was paying an online game, which is most of the time, and she was watching something a 720p movie on netflix through Roku, how would it handle the bandwidth?

ie. would it give the movie priority since it would be more of a steady demand? Anybody have any experience in this situation? Worried that we wont be able to do both at the same time.
 
I H8 Memes said:
So if I was paying an online game, which is most of the time, and she was watching something a 720p movie on netflix through Roku, how would it handle the bandwidth?

ie. would it give the movie priority since it would be more of a steady demand? Anybody have any experience in this situation? Worried that we wont be able to do both at the same time.
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Some routers (maybe tomato or DDWRT only) can dedicate bandwidth to certain things. I actually don't know about any software that can do it or if there are any tricks within windows to do so.
 
Eltacoman said:
Congrats Manos. It's a good feeling.
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Thanks! Yeah, it's feels great. I haven't really been able to PC Game in a long time and even then nowhere near the level I can now! I just wish I had been doing this earlier, but I have to say it helped having all the instant information I could need at the ready.
 
It won't really matter what the switch does. It will be moving 10x faster than your bandwidth allows anyway. The bottleneck will be at your actual internet connection.

So the best way to test it out is simply open up your PC right now, and start streaming some 720p content. Then open up a game and check what your ping is. What you get there will be no different when you run it on the TV and PC separately.
 
legend166 said:
Ok, I'm one click away from buying this build:


Intel CORE i5 2500K/3.30GHz/6MB CACHE/LGA1155 CPU214.04
ASRock Z68-Pro3 4xDDR3 PCIex16 GBL RAID DVI HDMI VGA 1394a USB3.0 SATA3 136.62
G.SKILL Ripjaws-X 8GB (4GB x 2) PC3 12800 (DDR3-1600) 77.22
COOLER MASTER HAF RC-912 Advanced Case 115.24
Corsair HX-650 650W ATX Modular Power Supply, 120mm fan, Dual PCI-E Graphic 18/7 137.50
Samsung 2TB(HD204UI) F4EG EcoGreen HDD - SATA II 3.0Gbs, 32MB Cache85.80
Sapphire HD6970 2GB GDDR5 256Bit GDDR5 PCIE 337.63
Crucial CT064M4SSD2 64GB Crucial m4 2.5-inch SATA 6GB/s 20/7 158.25

Any final advice/tips/objections?

This is going to be the first machine I've ever actually assembled personally, so I'll be coming back here for help I'm sure.
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since you're buying a K series CPU, wouldn't you want a aftermarket heatsink as well?

I found FrostyTech to have a lot of reviews on various heatsinks.
 
I H8 Memes said:
Someone here suggested that I only needed a switch to have my PC and my tv (probably just 720p for Roku for now) connected to the internet through my cable companies phone/cable modem. But does the switch just split the bandwidth? I probably dont have a strong enough connection for the Roku if the signal is split.

Here is my network speed.

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As others have mentioned, it doesn't split the bandwidth. Each device is using the full speed of your connection. As long as the HD stream isn't horribly bandwidth intensive, it shouldn't do much to hamper your gaming. Likewise, your gaming shouldn't negatively effect the Roku stream. If it does, there really isn't anything you could have done to fix it. 9mbit isn't blazing fast, but it is more than enough for playing an online game while watching a Roku stream.

When the bandwidth simply isn't there though, there isn't much you can do. QOS or Quality of Service (which is what someone was talking about in terms of custom router firmware) is more for a scenario where...this is difficult to explain...

Let's say you are torrenting a huge file. You've got hundreds of remote connections open, to hundreds of peers. In another room, your wife wants to watch something on the Roku box. You could set a router (by no easy means, mind you) to throttle your torrent connection down the second it detected traffic to the Roku box. Since you aren't watching the torrent, and it doesn't really matter when it finishes, you shouldn't really care. In contrast, if the Roku box wasn't getting enough bandwidth, it would have to buffer, and it would cause a poor experience. Hence QOS. If you use QOS on multiplayer video game traffic though, your game is going to get laggy as all hell. Yeah, her stream would get better, but at what cost?

I wouldn't worry about it. Just don't try to torrent anything while she's watching an HD stream (unless you apply the speed limiting functionality within the torrent client).
 
larvi said:
Yeah, that's a little strange. Usually when a hard drive dies it won't show up in the BIOS either. It's worth a try to plug it into a different sata port and try a different cable if you have one. Also if you have access to another computer you could try plugging it into that as a second drive and see if it can see it. Essentially process of elimination to see if the problem is with the drive/mb/cable, etc.
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So I tried changing port, plugs and resetting the bios to no avail. The harddrive is still detected in the bios it is just not detected when booting up. Is there any other methods I should try or do I have to get a new harddrive.
 
Yeah. One of the popular misconceptions I see all over the internet is that online gaming is bandwidth intensive. People had no problem playing Counter-Strike on 56k modems (and even lower).

Torrents are what will kill your bandwidth.
 
legend166 said:
Yeah. One of the popular misconceptions I see all over the internet is that online gaming is bandwidth intensive. People had no problem playing Counter-Strike on 56k modems (and even lower).

Torrents are what will kill your bandwidth.
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They kill crappy hardware that can't cope with hundreds of connections, that's for sure. I do my torrenting (of legal, Linux ISO's of course) at night, when no one is awake to bitch at me.
 
RS4- said:
It's hard to say, I don't think anyone really knows if they'll move to DDR4 or something; I don't think they will either or could have something where ddr3 and ddr4 keep the same notches in the dimm slots.

Manos, glad you got that sorted out!

edit - last time I checked, IB is still using DDR3
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scogoth said:
Yes the RAM should be fine. Ivy Bridge will be compatible with the 6-series chipset motherboards and DDR3 RAM.
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Alright that's what I was hoping for; just want to get the longest life out of my parts possible. Thanks!!
 
Looking to purchase a 60 or 64GB drive. Don't really need anything bigger, just want it for OS, a couple of games, and video encoding. I was looking at a 32gb, but it seems the prices are better on the 60/64. Recommendations?

Specs:
1050T @3.9
5850 @ 900/1250
AsRock 880G Pro3
8GB DDR3
23" 1920x1080
 
I need some help. I've put my computer together and I'm now trying to install Windows 7 onto my SSD (Crucial M4) but its coming up with errors when it gets to the 'expanding files' stage of installation. I've tried it a few times now.

I'm running an Asus P8P67 Pro B3 motherboard. The SSD is connected by a SATAIII cable to the SATAIII port on the motherboard. I can get into the bios fine and select my dvd drive to boot before my SSD then launch the Windows installation from my dvd. It works fine until it gets to the part of the installation that is 'expanding files'. It cuts out at a random percentage each time and comes up with error messages. I'm at work now, so I can't write down the error messages unfortunately, but I also got a blue screen once which said something was corrupt.

Sorry for being a bit vague, but does anyone have an ideas on what I can try?
 
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